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Bobby

Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 07:48:37 AM PDT

Today is for giving thanks.  It is also the release of Bobby.  

Many of us salivate over every crumb of courage elected Democrats drop on our plates.  Let us remember another dire time in our history -- when many Democrats had gone astray and we were fighting in another hopeless, death-filled quagmire.

Bobby should remind us what bravery means -- to see war, poverty and injustice and reject political expediency and selfish, fear-laden excuses to try and stop it.  
 

Bobby is flying way under the radar.

Lets make sure it doesn't, at least in our own small circles.

Bobby's passion, selflessness and energy need be celebrated. His death ushered in a dark era and moral drought in our history that we still have not recovered from. So much potential and so many dreams were cut down that day in 1968.

But Robert Kennedy planted the seeds of inspiration in so many of our current generation of heroes. His passion, allure and the simple truth in his heartfelt words has beckoned many to serve. And as Robert Kennedy's story is retold and celebrated, I'm hopeful it can help generate yet another crop -- because we still have so very far to go.

“Let no one be discouraged by the belief there is nothing one man or one woman can do against the enormous array of the world’s ills - against misery and ignorance, injustice and violence... Few will have the greatness to bend history itself; but each of us can work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those acts will be written the history of this generation...

It is from the numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human history is shaped. Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, these ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance.”  - Robert Kennedy

“I do not run for the presidency merely to oppose any man but to propose new policies. I run because I am convinced that this country is on a perilous course and because I have such strong feelings about what must be done, and I feel that I'm obliged to do all that I can. I run to seek new policies - policies to end the bloodshed in Vietnam and in our cities, policies to close the gaps that now exist between black and white, between rich and poor, between young and old, in this country and around the rest of the world. I run for the presidency because I want the Democratic Party and the United States of America to stand for hope instead of despair, for reconciliation of men instead of the growing risk of world war. I run because it is now unmistakably clear that we can change these disastrous, divisive policies only by changing the men who are now making them. For the reality of recent events in Vietnam has been glossed over with illusions. [...]

I do not lightly dismiss the dangers and the difficulties of challenging an incumbent President. But these are not ordinary times and this is not an ordinary election. At stake is not simply the leadership of our party and even our country. It is our right to moral leadership of this planet.” - Robert Kennedy

“What is objectionable, what is dangerous, about extremists is not that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant. The evil is not what they say about their cause, but what they say about their opponents.” - Robert Kennedy

"'If we believe men have any personal rights at all,' Aristotle said, 'then they must have an absolute moral right to such a  measure of good health as society alone can provide.' [...]

The issue before us then, is simple: Shall we continue to watch as medical costs soar beyond the reach of most Americans, condemning the poor to illness and the average American to the whim of fate -- or are we going to act to make decent medical care something more than a luxury of the affluent?

I think what we want is clear.  And I think this nation is willing to make the effort necessary for an effective system of care.   We have the resources to do it -- we have the will to do it -- and we are going to do it if I am the next President of the United States. [...]

No program to improve the nation’s health will be effective unless we understand the conditions of injustice which underlie disease.  It is illusory to think we can cure a sickly child -- and ignore his need for enough food to eat.  It is foolish to pour in money to cure the effect of filth-ridden slums -- without acting to eradicate the slums that breed so much disease.  It is pointless to establish community health projects to cure the ills of mind and body -- if we do not understand that a community of the jobless, the hopeless, the purposeless spawns disease in the minds and bodies of its victims.  We will not really cure the pathology of individuals unless we begin to come to grips with the pathology of these communities.

Education, jobs, community participation, an end to hunger, these are the elements of a healthy citizenry.  And they must be achieved.  For it is neither economical nor compassionate to care for the consequences of poverty, and ignores its roots." - Robert Kennedy

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  •  I will see this film (7+ / 0-)

    (check your HTML, the images didn't show up correctly).

    Thanks for your post.  

    "Balance" does not mean giving the same weight to a lie as you do to the truth.

    by delphine on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 07:52:15 AM PDT

  •  Ugh, no YouTube in Diaries... (4+ / 0-)

    Hopefully this works:

    <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JvFx1H50a7Y"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JvFx1H50a7Y" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

  •  I urge everyone (10+ / 0-)

    who is too young to remember this event, to go see the movie.  I was only 11, but I remember the shock of seeing Bobby Kennedy shot down in cold blood.  My childhood was filled with assasinations.  I must have thought it was a common occurance.  First JFK then MLK and Bobby.  
    And people say conspiracies don't happen.

  •  I'm going to see it today (1+ / 0-)

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    sobermom

    I'm excited to see it after watching Emilio Estevez on Ophra.

  •  I plan to see it this weekend (3+ / 0-)

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    tmo, ignu, Got a Grip

    Saw the preview on History Channel (interview with cast and director on what Bobby and 'Bobby' means to them)

    I love how Demi Moore said (paraphrasing)  Bobby is dead but not his vision and hope for a better tommorow

    A movie with no ad buys, an all-star casts who took major paycuts and assemble for a movie unlike any other, and based on principles and hope...not driven to make a quick buck

    I hope everyone sees this movie.  

    When we got into office, the thing that surprised me most was to find that things were just as bad as we'd been saying they were. -JFK

    by optimusprime on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 08:05:08 AM PDT

  •  RFK (5+ / 0-)

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    ignu, Dallasdoc, mattes, maryru, Got a Grip

    No politician has ever had a more defining, remarkable, poignant, or authentic moment than Robert Kennedy, during a speeck to a Black audience the night Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated.

    http://www.fordham.edu/...

  •  In all honesty, I wasn't an RFK fan when I was (5+ / 0-)

    young. I was 16 when he died. But I compare him to the political leaders we have (in general) now, and I don't see too many with the kind of moral stature and depth that he had. For my money, he was always the most decent member of the Kennedy clan, far removed from the cavortings of his brother John. He was a total family man. Seeing PBS's The American Experience last night, which focused on RFK's life, made me ache inside. My God, I wish this man had been given a chance to lead our country!

    •  wasn't RFK a bit of a red bater? (0+ / 0-)

      If you are interested in the politics of Proviso Township in Cook County, Illinois, visit Proviso Probe.

      by Carl Nyberg on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 08:53:00 AM PDT

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      •  He was a Cold Warrior, no doubt about it (2+ / 0-)

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        But that was part of his moral nature. He saw communism as the evil it was and he opposed it. He did make mistakes in his early years in politics (McCarthy) and he did act too aggressively against Castro. But he had something too many of our current leaders lack--a genuine capacity for growth. And he's one of the few leaders we've had who truly and deeply cared about the poor.

        •  working with McCarthy (0+ / 0-)

          RFK participated in some truly disgraceful attacks on regular people participating in politics.

          It doesn't define him as a bad person, but we should remember him as a complete person.

          If you are interested in the politics of Proviso Township in Cook County, Illinois, visit Proviso Probe.

          by Carl Nyberg on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 09:05:32 AM PDT

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          •  Real Leaders Grow (1+ / 0-)

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            I don't think he honestly cared that much about civil rights during the 1960 campaign, either.

            But he was a person who reflected, who grew and couldn't ignore injustice when exposed to it.

            •  In early 1961 (1+ / 0-)

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              RFK said that he didn't lose any sleep over the plight of the poor and blacks.

              By 1968, on the domestic front, those issues seemed to be his primary concern.

              John McCain's Something for Everyone Plan: Military draft for youth, SS benefit cuts for elderly, Middle Class destruction, stock market plunge for wealthy.

              by IhateBush on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 10:21:25 AM PDT

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  •  A great loss (2+ / 0-)

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    democat, leonard145b

    in a series of losses that shook my world, beginning in the seveth grade with JFK.

    "Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this...I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill and think things over." ~ HAL

    by LuLu on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 08:23:59 AM PDT

  •  The sheer power of his personality (4+ / 0-)

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    and the effect it had on his crowds of admirers is almost breathtaking to watch.  RFK was the kind of charismatic leader we need so much right now.

    1968 was a cataclysmic year for our country.  How different might our world look now if not for those few bullets?

    Thanks for the heads up. I'll be on the lookout for this movie.

    •  charismatic leaders? (1+ / 0-)

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      tmo

      The empowerment of collective action is in some ways in tension with the methods and style of a charismatic leader.

      Charismatic leaders have done some bad stuff through history.

      If you are interested in the politics of Proviso Township in Cook County, Illinois, visit Proviso Probe.

      by Carl Nyberg on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 08:52:07 AM PDT

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      •  Sure (2+ / 0-)

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        RFK was as charismatic and passionate as say Adolf Hitler.  It wasn't a cool charisma like JFK, FDR, or even Reagan, it was a very hot-blooded passion, even angry at some points.  His personality was closer to W than it was to his brother.  RFK's all out passion had showed up at many times, his zealous opposition to domestic communists in the early 1950s, to Mafia corruption in the 1950s and 1960s, his opposition to Castro and desire to get him in any way possible, and lastly his passion toward civil rights and ending poverty.

        That said, the passion in the late 60s was coming from what RFK had seen as grave injustices, poverty, racial discrimination both here and abroad (South Africa), an unjust war in Vietnam (which RFK personally opposed much more than he did publicly, he told his aides in 1968 that if he becomes President, "we're outta there").  The passion was tempered by a sense of pragmatism, which comes from working his entire life in government.  It was this pragmatism that prevented him from running for President earlier, he was scared that he would be blamed for splitting the party.  It is also instructive that Joe Kennedy, who had pushed his boys to political power at the earliest opportunity, actually tried to discourage RFK from running.

        As far as collective action, I think RFK would have harnessed it rather than work against it.  He once said at a ADA conference where Pat Moynihan asked liberals to join conservatives in condemning war protesters and rioters that the young people should form their own ADA and engage in direct action in the streets.  He also stated that Moynihan asks all the right questions but opposes all the solutions.

        I don't know if RFK would have been to overcome the extreme right-wing trend and institutions in this country had he become President.  But if anyone had a chance, it was him, with his strong charisma and magnetism to move people, and to put together coalitions.

        John McCain's Something for Everyone Plan: Military draft for youth, SS benefit cuts for elderly, Middle Class destruction, stock market plunge for wealthy.

        by IhateBush on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 10:47:44 AM PDT

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  •  When he was running for president (4+ / 0-)

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    as I have noted here before, he had a rally at the University of San Francisco, a Jesuit/Catholic school. I cannot remember a word he said, but the place was packed and I was able to shake his hand. He was my first vote for president.

    The returns were barely in that early June night and he was dead. Would there have been such an agonizing need for DKos had he lived ?

    Let's get some Democracy for America

    by murphy on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 08:30:34 AM PDT

  •  A lot more than Bobby (5+ / 0-)

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    died on that June day in 1968. It's almost forty years later and as this diarist points out we have never fully recovered. Everytime we talk about choosing a presidential nominee, I can't help but think how far away we are from the likes of Robert Kennedy and how many wrong turns this country has taken since 1968.

  •  One Of My Favorite Quotes.... (5+ / 0-)

    All of us, from the wealthiest to the young children that I have seen in this country, in this year, bloated by starvation --- we all share one precious possession, and that is the name "American". It is not easy to know what that means. But, in part, to be an American means to have been an outcast and a stranger, to have come from the exiles' country, and to know that he who denies the outcast and the stanger still amongst us, he also denies America.
    --Robert Kennedy

    One other thing that's fascinating about RFK is his relationship with Lyndon Johnson, and how they despised each other.

  •  Assassinated (0+ / 0-)

    "Every day I wake up
    I hope I'm dreamin
    I can't believe this shit
    Can't believe you ain't here
    Sometimes it's just hard for a nigga to wake up
    It's hard to just keep goin
    It's like I feel empty inside without you bein here
    I would do anything man, to bring you back
    I'd give all this shit, shit the whole knot
    I saw your son today
    He look just like you
    You was the greatest
    You'll always be the greatest
    I miss you Big
    Can't wait til that day, when I see your face again
    I can't wait til that day, when I see your face again..."

    "Every step I take, every move I make
    Every single day, every time I pray
    I'll be missing you
    Thinkin of the day, when you went away
    What a life to take, what a bond to break
    I'll be missing you"

    Lyrics by: Puffy

  •  Abraham, Martin, and John (2+ / 0-)

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    Sung by: Dion
    Words and Music by Richard Holler

    Anybody here seen my old friend Abraham?
    Can you tell me where he's gone?
    He freed lotta people but it seems the good they die young
    You know I just looked around and he's gone

    Anybody here seen my old friend John?
    Can you tell me where he's gone?
    He freed lotta people but it seems the good they die young
    I just looked around and he's gone

    (brief instrumental interlude-organ)

    Anybody here seen my old friend Martin?
    Can you tell me where he's gone?
    He freed lotta people but it seems the good they die young
    I just looked around and he's gone

    Didn't you love the things that they stood for?
    Didn't they try to find some good for you and me?
    And we'll be free
    Some day soon, it's gonna be one day

    Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
    Can you tell me where he's gone?
    I thought I saw him walkin' up over the hill
    With Abraham, Martin, and John

    http://www.ocap.ca/...

  •  40 years later, and his observations are still (1+ / 0-)

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    (sadly) correct.  This sounds as if it were written today -  

    No program to improve the nation’s health will be effective unless we understand the conditions of injustice which underlie disease.  It is illusory to think we can cure a sickly child -- and ignore his need for enough food to eat.  It is foolish to pour in money to cure the effect of filth-ridden slums -- without acting to eradicate the slums that breed so much disease.  It is pointless to establish community health projects to cure the ills of mind and body -- if we do not understand that a community of the jobless, the hopeless, the purposeless spawns disease in the minds and bodies of its victims.  We will not really cure the pathology of individuals unless we begin to come to grips with the pathology of these communities.

    My Karma just ran over your Dogma

    by FoundingFatherDAR on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 10:31:21 AM PDT

  •  I believe that associating myself as a Democrat (1+ / 0-)

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    was a direct result of the series of tragic deaths that took place in the formative years of my childhood.  I was in first grade when the school janitor came in and whispered to my teacher that JFK had been shot and killed.  I still remember the look of horror on her face, the tears streaking her cheeks.  She was a strong woman not given to emotional displays, so it was frightening to see her in such distress.  A mere five years later and the injustice of the loss of both Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy touched me deeply, despite being so young.  These tragedies, and all the others in those formative years, turned my mind to matters of injustice, of what makes someone a true patriot, an good leader, a roll model.  My parents were Republican fundies, and their lack of sadness over these deaths, particularly the behaviour of my mother, turned me away from all things Republican, and a few years later, drove me away from the church.

    My sadness has deepened where these tragedies are concerned as the years have past and there has been no one man or group of men to step up and fill the void.  My deepest wish is that someone or group of someone's will come along to fill the very large shoes of those who gave their lives in pursuit of the greater good of this country, and that it will happen now, in the formative years of my grandchildren.  I want them to have heroes to immulate, sterling examples of good and true Americans.  And I hope that if these heroes come along, they will not be taken from us in the prime of their lives.

    Calling bullshit on "bracing rhetorical thrusters" since Fall 2006....put your words into action at Road2DC

    by Got a Grip on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 12:27:46 PM PDT

    •  I've always wondered how many Rethugs (1+ / 0-)

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      showed glee when JFK, MLK, and RFK were murdered.  I'm not at all surprised that your parents acted that way.

      I'm curious about what you emphasize as the behavior of your mother, was she especially glad about these deaths?

      John McCain's Something for Everyone Plan: Military draft for youth, SS benefit cuts for elderly, Middle Class destruction, stock market plunge for wealthy.

      by IhateBush on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 02:10:18 PM PDT

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      •  I have to say that my dad is very religious, (0+ / 0-)

        and he votes every time, but he's not really all that political.  He was just pretty much indifferent to all of it.  My mother, on the other hand, was almost gleeful when JRK, MLK, and RFK were killed, and it really had an affect on the way I saw her after that.  There were many problems I had with my mother, some much worse than this, but this certainly moved me to thinking in different ways than she did.

        In many ways my mother used religion justify her harsh views and behaviors.  She was a bigot, which my father is not, she was not kind to those who knew her best, but the outside world would never have known that.  Her world was totally black and white as it applied to others, but not herself.  And you couldn't reason with her at all, she hated what she hated and that was it.  I feel bad saying these things, but they are true.  But I guess I should thank her, because my most deeply felt desire was to not be like her when I grew up, and I think I've managed that.  I know I'm a good person with a good heart, and that I've made myself that way pretty much on my own, and in response to her behaviors.  Where there was hate and intolerance within her, there is empathy and compassion in me.  So, in a backwards kind of way, I owe her for making me the person I am today.

        Calling bullshit on "bracing rhetorical thrusters" since Fall 2006....put your words into action at Road2DC

        by Got a Grip on Thu Nov 23, 2006 at 02:52:52 PM PDT

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