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Whatever happened to Iran?

Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:17:06 PM PDT

Strange isn't it? But ever since the mid-term elections started, and especially since the announcement of the results, Iran seems to have dropped out of the solar system. Not a peep about Iran from anyone or anywhere... Yet wasn't Iran just a few days back the biggest threat to the world since Hussein's Iraq?
With a cacophonous crescendo Iran was being represented as the greatest threat to world peace since Attila the Hun and to American security since the British burned Washington. We all know why: Iran is supposed to be building WMDs, especially lots of potential mushroom clouds; to be in league with Al-Qaeda and all other sorts of nefarious terrorists; to be clamoring for the wiping out of one or more of its neighbors; and, most probably, to have been (ultimately) behind 9/11... (Sounds familiar?)
Yet, now, not a peep - the word 'Iran' hasn't crossed Bushian lips at all, at all, since the elections. Not even our centrist, triangulating Democrats in Congress - the warmongering worms eating away at the core of the Party - have anything to say, silence on all sides. Perhaps our triangulating-centrists have just been catching their breaths, after all their stomping in favor of officially-endorsed Democratic nominees... Perhaps they've just realized that endless war (like the Third Reich or the Soviet Union) is terminally ill and has suddenly become out of fashion...
Whatever the case, now that we have a majority in both the House and the Senate, let's hope that there will be a lot of thinking and planning before we take it upon ourselves to attack other countries. A little reflection on the morality and legality of preemptive strikes might also not go astray.
The immediate issue is that of our ambassador to the United Nations, a post currently filled by presidential fiat during a Congress recess by one John Bolton. Let's hope that we'll now fill that vital post with a thinking and capable diplomat rather than a hit-man who has always sought to incite rather than avoid the use of violence.
Furthermore, let's hope that we can end, once and for all, the biggest of Bushco's slights-of-hand, the conflation of the (largely mythical) "war on terra" with the invasion and occupation of countries that pose no imminent threat to us but are replete with oil. Somebody ought to tell the President to cut out his facile and empty rhetoric (aka BS) whereby we must attain victory in Iraq (whatever that might mean in practice, if anything) because the war (occupation?) in Iraq is (supposedly) the principal front in the "war on terra". The occupation of Iraq is no such thing, and if it were such it would be solely and precisely because of our illegal and immoral (as well as totally unnecessary) invasion and occupation. What was needed after 9/11 - when we had the whole world on our side - was effective international anti-terrorist police action, not the gratuitous attack on countries that (as Rummy put it) furnished good targets, especially when rich with oil.
Let's hope that if anything comes out of a Democratic-controlled Congress it will be a refusal to continue with this murderous policy whereby bombing the shit out of (oil-rich) countries has replaced diplomacy... Then, perhaps, America might just regain the status that it always had for the entire world as a beacon of justice and morality, as opposed to its current reputation as the world's principal "rogue nation".
John Bolton has to go...

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  •  In fairness, (2+ / 0-)

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    chuckvw, LodinLepp

    what happened to the rest of the world?

    Just for giggles, check the news from, oh let's say Africa. A few countries are having a little meeting about climate change in Nairobi (which is having a few problems of its own), the UNEP and Greenbelt have launched a campaign to plant a billion trees in 2007, and it turns out there are water and sanitation problems in some of the poorer countries.

    What's so hard about Peace, Love, and Truth and Progress?

    by melvin on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:18:57 PM PDT

  •  James Baker (0+ / 0-)

    Did he talk Bush out of bombing Iran? The plan was madness. Iran would probably respond by sinking oil tankers and shutting off 1/4 of the world's oil.

  •  It'll start again (1+ / 0-)

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    madgranny

    Once Congress starts debating defense or intelligence or civil rights, we'll start hearing about how the Dems are weak on confronting Iran.

  •  Didn't we invade right before the elections? (1+ / 0-)

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    madgranny

    I'm pretty sure we invaded Iran recently.

  •  Good question (0+ / 0-)

    Very good question, even Kos had some issues with one diary about Iran (Jerome's cartoon diary) but there has been absolutely nothing  on Iran after the elections.

    Sadly the risk of violence is still there, but there could be something coming from Baker. He is not stupid and he could ( or the report) call for talks with Iran and Syria Re: Iraq. Why would Iran do that if the US has nothing but hostility to offer?

    I'm waiting to see, if the media will change some of the BS they have been doing, there should be less republicans asking for the use of force. Sadly the democrats will likely support that too, they don't like to be seen as weak on Iran.

  •  Fear wasn't a Factor in these elections. (0+ / 0-)

    That's what Iran was, a Fear-factor in the Republican play-book.  bush was making as much noise as Kim Jong Il, and with about the same efficiency.

    Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:34:52 PM PDT

  •  Well... (0+ / 0-)

    ...on Tuesday, the State Department said unequivocally that Israel will not attack Iran, and that Israel has told the United States that it considers Iran to be an international problem and not an Israeli problem.

    But it is rather understandable that got missed.

    The urge to save humanity is almost always a false face for the urge to rule it. ~ H.L. Mencken

    by Jay Elias on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:36:32 PM PDT

  •  Bush is still president n/t (0+ / 0-)

    Barack Obama - I'll never see the threat of terrorism as a way to scare up votes, it's a threat that should rally this country against our common enemies

    by madgranny on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:39:23 PM PDT

  •  Rep. Diane Watson: Iran Has Nuclear Weapons NOW (0+ / 0-)

    This Saturday in Longmont, Colorado I had the pleasure of talking face-to-race with Rep. Diane Watson (CA-33).  I asked her about Iran and "WMD".

    To my astonishment, she adamantly insisted that Iran has nuclear weapons, online, ready-to-roll RIGHT NOW.  Today.  She told me that many members of the US House knew this and considered it to be "common knowledge".

    Think about it -- this makes complete sense.  Why WOULDN'T Iran already have nuclear capability?  Iran is a large and very advanced country.  And there are few countries more motivated to defend itself, as Israel is nearby and bellicose, with a fearsome nuclear deterrent.

    In my view, Bush is hyping Iran's enrichment program as a means to "sell" the Iran invasion, in much the same way he did with "Saddam's WMD".

    The most important thing to remember is this:  Bomb-grade nuclear weapons materials can be procured.  This is how Israel got the uranium/plutonium for their first bombs, and this is very likely what Iran did too.

    It's likely that Iran is building out its enrichment program to round out its stockpile.

    "I've been an oilman all my life, but this is one crisis we can't drill our way out of" --T. Boone Pickens

    by bincbom on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:43:46 PM PDT

  •  Gates/Baker: maybe good news on Iran. (0+ / 0-)

    From andrewsullivan.com:

    In the summer of 2004, Gates and former national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski co-chaired a task force sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations that argued for opening a dialogue with Iran. The task force's report contended that the lack of American engagement with Iran had harmed American interests, and advocated direct talks with the Iranians.

    "Just as the United States has a constructive relationship with China (and earlier did so with the Soviet Union) while strongly opposing certain aspects of its internal and international policies, Washington should approach Iran with a readiness to explore areas of common interests while continuing to contest objectionable policy," said the report, entitled "Iran: Time for a New Approach."

    James Baker is also on record as suggesting a need to talk to Iran and Syria.  It seems to me that the realists in the GOP are coming into the ascendancy.

    -4.25, -4.87 "If the truth were self-evident, there would be no need for eloquence." -- Cicero

    by HeyMikey on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:47:41 PM PDT

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