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This seat is currently held by Norm Coleman (R-I only have this seat because Paul Wellstone died and some guy got carried away at his memorial service).  It was once held, of course, by Paul Wellstone, one of the greatest American politicians in recent history.  Lots of people could be eyeing a bid against a very vulnerable Coleman, so let's take a look.

We must begin, of course, with the elephant in the room, who is of course comedian and talk-show host and (kick ass) author, Al Franken.  Franken was a friend of Wellstone's and is possibly the most intelligent candidate in the field (Kennedy School grad).  However, Al would lose horribly to Norm Coleman in the general.  Why?  For one, we Minnesotans all remember what happened the last time we elected someone from show-business (Jesse) to statewide office.  Now, a senator can't do quite the damage a governor can (I guess that is debatable though), but we don't want a repeat of that here.  Another flaw--he is ultra-liberal.  A lot of us are too, but we're not running for senate.  Coleman has tried (somewhat successfully) to be like Sens McCain and Smith (R-AZ and OR) and build up a moderate image, while voting the party line almost all of the time.  He is less popular than them, because MN is bluer than OR or AZ.  Finally, I can't think of a candidate who would turn out the GOP base like Franken.  Coleman isn't loved by the evangelicals here (and there are too many of them for my liking), but Franken is hated.  Sorry Al, stick to your books and shows.

For some really bizarre reason, some have talked up the idea of 06 LG nominee Judi Dutcher running for senate.  Whoever is saying she should run should really take a look at the 06 governor's race she ruined.  How the hell can you be a Minnesota politician and not know what E85 is?  Honestly!  Sorry Judi, but to win this one, we need a candidate who isn't completely retarded.

Rounding out the bad possible candidates is 06 governor nominee Mike Hatch, who multiplied E85 ten-fold, by calling a reporter who asked him about it a "republican whore."  In a state known for "Minnesota Nice," this guy won't get far.  Mike Hatch is a partisan hack and all-around jerk who should never have been the gubernatorial nominee.  If he runs, the IP (Independence party) will again get a big protest vote.

On to the good candidates.  

My personal choice would be Congresswoman Betty McCollum.  Although rumor has it that she is a good friend of Pelosi, and trying to fast-track her way into house leadership, McCollum would be a great candidate.  She's definitely liberal, but so was Klobuchar who got 58% of the vote in an open seat.  She reminds me very much of Sen-Elect Klobuchar, who recently walked into a senate seat.  She has little name ID atm, which is good in this state (again, see Klobuchar).  In my opinion, she is the most viable candidate.

Next up is Minneapolis mayor RT Ryback.  Ryback, who I'm less familiar with, could count on great Twin Cities turnout and could follow in the footsteps of the last minneapolis mayor to become senator, Hubert Humphrey.  He'll have a little baggage recently, due to his self-picked fire chief who turned out to be a dud, but that will doubtedly taint his chances.  He has better name ID than McCollum, and I'm not sure where he would stand right now.  Certainly could win though.

Edit:  Add former state sen and gubernatorial candidate Beckey Lourey to the list of good candidates.  (not in the poll)

The obscure:  

Defeated State Sen Majority leader may also be planning a run.  I would never support him in a primary, due to his love for banning gay marriage.  He used to be a republican, and since he couldn't win re-election, he's almost out of consideration.

Wealthy attorney Mike Ciresi may also be eyeing a bid, but his self-funding ability is his only advantage.

Interesting Wildcards:  While he personally has indicated no plans to run for senate, it would be interesting if former congressman Tim Penny (D-MN-01) and former indepence party gubernatorial nominee would try to run as a joint-endorsee of the DFL and IP.  It's doubtful, especially since he's a social conservative.

Congressman-elect (From my district) Tim Walz (D-MN-01) is also talked about, but he's almost certain not to run.  He can turn out the DFL base like no one since Paul Wellstone, but he is only a one-termer, and said on MPR's mid day that he's not running (so he won't be in the poll).  If we don't knock off Coleman in 08, he could always try at it in 14.

So that's the list, be sure to vote in the poll, and if there's someone else you want, be sure to mention them

Originally posted to Terryus on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 01:21 PM PST.


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  •  Tip Jar (20+ / 0-)

    (by the way, what does Tip Jar mean on all these diaries?)

    "Santorum, that's Latin for 'asshole'"--Sen Bob Kerrey (D-NE)

    by Terryus on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 01:20:05 PM PST

  •  Norm Coleman's lurid affair with Joe Camel!!! (0+ / 0-)

    If selling his soul to Joe Camel is one of Norm Coleman's moral values, then I'd hate to see what his immoral values are.

  •  I cannot believe people choose Al Franken. (4+ / 0-)
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    jxg, parryander, SoCalLiberal, Allogenes

    He's a talk how host (a failed one at that), a comedian. He's never held any other office before and he's running for senate?, or may be running. And he seems unstable to me. Every time I see him on tv in an interview he acts weird, like he cant keep his emotions under control. His face actually twitches and he raises his voice and is rude etc... Theres no way in hell that he could ever win a senate election. He should try for state rep first if wants to get into politics. He's just not a credible senate candidate.

    •  in his defense (4+ / 0-)
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      Radiowalla, NCrefugee, rapala, cybersaur

      He has actually been heavily involved in politics, in progressive and Democratic Party circles, for decades.  I can't speak to any alleged instability-- I don't happen to see that myself-- but I know that he is a far more credible candidate (as judged by experience, knowledge and intellect) than a Ventura, Schwarzenegger, or any of the numerous television and sports celebs that have taken that path before him.

      •  Thats a good point about Arnold and Ventura. (0+ / 0-)

        Some how they seemed more... electable though than Franken does. They had charisma. I just dont think Franken has that, he's not likeable unless youre on the left imo.

        I think Frankens political career got started just because of his 'Limbaugh big fat idiot' book, i think everyone wanted him for interviews then and thought of him as a spokesperson. All he did was bash Limbaugh though.

    •  Al is NOT (9+ / 0-)

      a "failed" talk show host ! His show does pretty well, thank you very much, in spite of the mess Air America seems to be, which is not his fault.

      Now, as to his personal mannerisms, and his rather chaotic speech patterns, well, that's different. I don't think he's unstable. Rather, I think he's a very intelligent, very passionate person, who cares about this country more than most Republicans can imagine.

      He puts his life on the line to do what he perceives as his duty, to go to places like Iraq to entertain the troops. Maybe not something a lot of people here understand or appreciate, but much respected by the people he goes to see.

      If he wants to run for the senate, he has at least as much right as Katherine Harris, to put it politely. And he's smarter, better looking, and a lot more people like him, flaws and all !

      Let's get some Democracy for America

      by murphy on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 02:02:36 PM PST

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      •  Al would be the Katherine Harris of 08 (3+ / 0-)
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        jxg, hilltopper, Valahan

        if he ran.  A viable candidate could've beaten Bill Nelson, just like one could have beaten Coleman

        "Santorum, that's Latin for 'asshole'"--Sen Bob Kerrey (D-NE)

        by Terryus on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 02:08:00 PM PST

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        •  the analogy doesn't jibe (0+ / 0-)

          Why not say he'll be the Rick Santorum, or some other random loser?  It doesn't seem to be an accurate comparison.

        •  Sorry Terryus, (4+ / 0-)
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          shpilk, msstaley, RuralLiberal, cybersaur

          but you’re probably wrong about Franken’s chances in MN. I knocked on many, many doors for the DFL this past election and talked with many people. Occasionally during these conversations the person I was talking to would mention Franken and/or Jesse. Based on those conversations, neither is seen as a loser or nut case. Also, most of the young DFL staffers I talked with were Franken fans.

          Man's most judicious trait, is a good sense of what not to believe. Euripides

          by A Ernest Mann on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 02:35:01 PM PST

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          •  As one of those young DFL staffers, (1+ / 0-)
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            you're right in your assessment that young democrats really really like him.  In my doorknocking experience, Franken was only mentioned by either strong supporters, or in a few cases strong opponents.

            Just think about this logically--of all the senators up for re-election in 2008 Coleman is arguably the most vulnerable (maybe Landreiu Allard or Sununu are, but that's beside the point).  Why nominate someone with no experience in elected office when we could take a much safer pick.

            We'll see about his chances when the first polls come out.

            "Santorum, that's Latin for 'asshole'"--Sen Bob Kerrey (D-NE)

            by Terryus on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 02:39:54 PM PST

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      •  I dont say he shouldnt run, (0+ / 0-)

        or that he doesnt have a right too. Im just surprised by all the support he always gets in these polls because I just cant imagine him winning. I dont think he's even taken seriously by anyone in the leadership of the party either, thank god for that.

        I dont know much about his show or Air America but from what Ive heard its not doing very well and alot of liberals have said that theyre disappointed in his show. Frankly, I think is trips to Iraq and his show was all a plan, or at least in part a plan, to run for office someday.

        •  The leadership of (0+ / 0-)

          which party - the national level or the DFL?
          The DFL loves him. He has been a fantastic supporter and fundraiser. They take him seriously.

          •  Im not even sure what the DFL is. (0+ / 0-)

            I have seen spokespeople for the party on tv and watched there reactions to Franken being mentioned for the senate and they sort of laugh and dont take it very seriously. Thats probably not a perfect gauge of what 'the party' think, but theyre connected with movers in DC so thats what Im going by.  

            •  The DFL is the MN democratic party (0+ / 0-)

              It stands for Democratic Farm Labor Party.  A while ago, the Farm Labor party was a major third party in Minnesota, that took votes away from the dems, so the two merged, forming the DFL.

              In (I think) 74, Minnesota republicans became IRs, Independent Republicans to separate themselves from their pals on capitol hill.

              "Santorum, that's Latin for 'asshole'"--Sen Bob Kerrey (D-NE)

              by Terryus on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 08:06:47 PM PST

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        •  Its my understanding that Franken's show (0+ / 0-)

          is doing very well along with a few others on Air America.  Far from being disappointed with Al's show, this liberal enjoys it very much.  As far as Franken vs. coleman I would love to see a debate between the two.  Franken is very intelligent, well-informed and fast on his feet.  I believe that Franken in a debate would be somewhat different than Franken on a talk show since he would be a candidate rather than a comedian/political commentator.  There are obvious drawbacks to a Franken candidacy not the least of which is that he is funny.  However, Franken does have a lot going for him.  He would have an energetic group of volunteers particularly among younger voters which is very important in a state like Minnesota that has same day voter registration.  Franken would also be able to raise a lot of cash not just from Minnesota but from around the country because of his radio show and books.  I don't know if he is the best choice for Minnesota but I think that if he runs he will raise the bar for other Democratic candidates running for the seat and they will have to bring their A Game in order to beat him and that will not be a bad thing.  Think of the primaries in Montana and Virginia.

          They had fangs; they were biting people. They had this look in their eyes. Totally cold... animal. I think they were Young Republicans.

          by msstaley on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 06:15:01 PM PST

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          •  If I saw evidence of this ability to debate (0+ / 0-)

            and that he would be a good candidate I would say so. Ive seen him many times on tv shows though (msnbc, CNN,.... ) and I havent been impressed. He does not seem fast on his feet or overly intelligent from what Ive seen, he normally ends up getting angry when he's challenged. Maybe you dont see him on tv much. Im a political junky and watch all the shows: Scarborough, Tucker, Olberman, Wolf Blitzer,....

            I'd like nothing better than to find someone that can beat Norm Coleman and if that was Franken great, but I just dont see it. He would have to be a completely different person than he is on tv imo.

            Im not sure about the ratings for his show. I think you are correct though that it does quite a bit better than most others on that network.

    •  If Schwarzenegger can ... (0+ / 0-)

      Franken is a true progressive who isn't afraid to speak truth to power. He'd bring in millions of dollars in support. The diarist mentions a bunch of people I've never heard of and wouldn't be inclined to send money to. Winning races in America is all about money. Franken is a well-educated man, deeply involved in issues. He ain't no fake wrestler. The public would think more of Schwarzenegger than Ventura.

      Run, Al, run!

      I'm a linguist, licensed to use words any way I want to!

      by MakeChessNotWar on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 02:13:30 PM PST

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      •  Katherine Harris had a shitload of money (3+ / 0-)
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        and she still got creamed.  So did Ned Lamont.  Al Franken is far too controversial to win statewide in Minnesota.  I'm sure the people at redstate would all get excited if O'Reilly thought of running, but he'd get his ass kicked too.

        "Santorum, that's Latin for 'asshole'"--Sen Bob Kerrey (D-NE)

        by Terryus on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 02:24:15 PM PST

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    •  Al Franken (3+ / 0-)
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      msstaley, RuralLiberal, A Ernest Mann

      Al Franken is really bright, affable and up on his politics. He knows his stuff and he can communicate it clearly and intelligently. I think he's got the charisma to win. He's very "telegenic" so he'd look great in TV debates and on political adverts. He can attract support from progressives nationwide. He's got a LOT of pluses. Don't be so quick to write him off.
      I'd love to see Al Franken run for Senate in '08!

  •  While I can think of some reasons (0+ / 0-)

    not to vote for Al-- his floor speeches could be a nightmare-- I don't think it's appropriate to compare him to Jesse V.  

    Do you really think MN voters would make this analogy in the voting booth ?

    Let's get some Democracy for America

    by murphy on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 01:41:18 PM PST

    •  In terms of electability, I think it's fair to (2+ / 0-)
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      jxg, Allogenes

      compare them.  Maybe it would be better to compare him to Ned Lamont.  CT voters (unfortunately) generally said, I'd rather have an experienced senator than someone with no prior political experience.  

      "Santorum, that's Latin for 'asshole'"--Sen Bob Kerrey (D-NE)

      by Terryus on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 01:44:22 PM PST

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    •  bad political analogies (0+ / 0-)

      It's easy to make superficial political analogies in any race.  I don't think this one can be accurately compared to Ventura, Katherine Harris or Ned Lamont, as commentors are suggesting.  

      The lesson is: examine the race and pick the best candidate -- don't look for an easy cheat sheet in other races, for which the time, place, issues, voters, candidates and/or political baggage were not the same.

  •  Betty or RT (1+ / 0-)
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    Al would certainly be fun and he would run circles around The Teeth, but I am afraid he is too coastal to succeed.  I think Betty or RT would have a good shot.

  •  I wish Amy Klobuchar had a twin. (0+ / 0-)

    I assume Ciresi and Bell will run again, but right now I'm still waiting for someone to impress me even just a little. Norm is a poodle and it doesn't seem like it would take much to beat him, but I'd like more than that.

    BTW: What elected office did Paul Wellstone hold before being elected Senator (since so many are concerned with everyone's bona fides)?

    "ONWARD TO 1600!"

    by cajay on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 01:48:56 PM PST

    •  I believe Wellstone was a state sen (0+ / 0-)

      and his win over Boschwitz was a HUGE shock.

      "Santorum, that's Latin for 'asshole'"--Sen Bob Kerrey (D-NE)

      by Terryus on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 01:50:03 PM PST

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      •  scratch that (4+ / 0-)
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        parryander, hilltopper, cajay, Allogenes

        he was a professor at Carleton college (according to wikipedia), who once ran for state auditor and lost.  "Some credit the upset defeat to a letter Boschwitz supporters wrote, on campaign stationery, to members of the Minnesota Jewish community days before the election, accusing Wellstone of being a "bad Jew" for marrying a Gentile and not raising his children in the Jewish faith. Wellstone's reply, widely broadcast on Minnesota television, was, "He has a problem with Christians, then." Boschwitz, like Wellstone, is Jewish."
        from Wikipedia

        I guess his win was similar to Daniel Mongiardo's almost win over Jim Bunning in KY-Sen-2004

        "Santorum, that's Latin for 'asshole'"--Sen Bob Kerrey (D-NE)

        by Terryus on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 01:54:59 PM PST

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    •  I would consider McCollum (0+ / 0-)

      as very similar to Klobuchar, which is why I think she should run.  She appears to be hesitant now that the Dems got the majority in the House.

  •  It needs to be McCollum (1+ / 0-)
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    Schumer needs to talk to her immediately about running for this race.

  •  Becky Lourey (0+ / 0-)

    I wish Becky Lourey had been our nominiee for governor instead of Hatch, but I think she could make a good canidate against Norm Quimby. Her son was killed in Iraq, so that would place rubberstamp norm in high contrast on an unpopular war. She's from outstate, which might play well in contrast to Norm being both connected to the twincities and a carpetbagger. Plus she's been a business woman and a farmer which can be contrasted againt Norm being a lawyer. Just a thought.

    Also, about Al Franken. I think he might have way more impact in his media-author-personality role. A progressive minister-without-portfolio. Free to step on toes and rock the boat.

    I like Betty and RT would probably be ok too, but they lack outstate juice. Not so sure about Dean Johnson's ideology, but am willing to listen.

    It would be hard for the DFL to pick a canidate who I wouldnt end up voting for, but then again, I'm not as tough a sell as many of the "independant" voters in the landolakes.

    Michelle Bachman: nutty even by wingnut standards

    by PaintBoy on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 02:22:21 PM PST

  •  Lourey would be good (0+ / 0-)

    The grassroots would go crazy for her, and yes, she definitely should've been the 06 gub nominee.  I don't know how electable she is statewide (since unfortunately we didn't get to see), but she would probably be my second or third choice then.

    "Santorum, that's Latin for 'asshole'"--Sen Bob Kerrey (D-NE)

    by Terryus on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 02:26:27 PM PST

  •  Look, Al Is Not Going To Even Run.... (0+ / 0-)

    ....if he's seen as a joke at all.  I said it before in the last diary on the topic, but people are going to sorely disappointed if they go a Franken 2008 rally expecting a joke chocked evening.  If he does it at all, it's because he actually has real policy positions to offer MN.

    DVD pre-orders of my animated documentary DOOLITTLE RAIDERS now available!!!

    by tkmattson on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 02:27:51 PM PST

    •  You're right about Al, but (0+ / 0-)

      I think that he won't be taken seriously.  Once the first polls showing him behind by double digits come out he'll probably drop out of the race.

      "Santorum, that's Latin for 'asshole'"--Sen Bob Kerrey (D-NE)

      by Terryus on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 02:35:18 PM PST

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      •  I Hope He Gets a Shot.... (0+ / 0-)

        ....this would be the last step in a career transition he's been making for a while, from entertainer to politician.  He's qualified for sure, even more than many politicians in knowledge base at least.  Here's to hoping MN folks don't lump him in with the mistake that was Jesse Ventura.  Hear that MN Kossacks?  It's up to you - you know he could do a lot of good!!!  

        DVD pre-orders of my animated documentary DOOLITTLE RAIDERS now available!!!

        by tkmattson on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 02:39:41 PM PST

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        •  maybe he should run for gov in '10 (1+ / 0-)
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          ...or state senate, or city council, or party chairman.

          By running for US Senate, it gives the impression of celebrity entitlement. Al moves away from MN, stays away for a good while, and only seems to have moved back as a policitcal calculation. Then, if successful, would be leaving MN for DC.

          I think if Al got involved beyond the media and fundraising level, it would go a long ways toward paying dues and proving roots.

          Michelle Bachman: nutty even by wingnut standards

          by PaintBoy on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 02:51:11 PM PST

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  •  I think I went to the same high school as Al... (1+ / 0-)
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    I did not know him. We travelled in different circles as they say. The guy is a hoot and Minnesota did elect Jesse Ventura as Govenor. I have not lived back there since I got out of the Marines, as I said we travelled in different circles.Paul Wellstone was a great man and many believe he, along wth family and associates  were assasinated. There are sights that give the details if you wish to google it. I was one of the regular combatants in the daily match ups behind the McDonalds across from the High School. Ah, to be young again. We had a hell of a time. It was great to be young and alive. And I won every fight I engaged in behind McDonalds unless my memory is being self servingly selective. Whatever,   ...Oscar

    •  Al went to Blake (0+ / 0-)

      I went to St. Louis Park High, obviously that is where you are talking about with the MacDonalds across the street.

      Al is from St. Louis Park, but didn't go to high school there. I think his brother Joel did- he's a free lance photographer who used to give talks at our school.

      Park High '84, what year are you?

  •  Al Franken will run (5+ / 0-)

    He'll win the nomination, beat Coleman, and be a great Senator.

    He'll be a great candidate, serious, knows the issues, and able to skwer Coleman with a single barb.

    Norm: Don't vote for Al, he's just is part of the Hollywood Liberal Elite.
    Al: Doesn't your wife live in Hollywood?

    (something like this was part of an exchange I read a couple months ago).

    I look forward to Senator Franken, and I'll do whatever I can to support him.

  •  I think you misread Minnesotans (6+ / 0-)

    What voters here value is authenticity.  That's how this state gave us both Ventura and Wellstone, and why Coleman is having problems.  And Al Franken does authenticity well.  That's not to say he's the best candidate, but before you go telling us that he can't win because he's too liberal, I'll remind you that this state would have easily re-elected Wellstone in 2002, and has moved to the left since then.

    They hate us for our freedoms. So if we stop being free, they stop hating us? Is THAT the plan?

    by Leggy Starlitz on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 02:47:58 PM PST

    •  You have a good point, (0+ / 0-)

      but I think that there is a very significant difference in the way that Al Franken and Paul Wellstone are perceived.  Paul Wellstone was the most progressive member of the senate, but he couldn't be painted as some whacked-out hippy Michael Moore level liberal the way Franken (I think) could.  I hope I'm wrong, but we played it safe by picking Klobuchar in 06, and we won by 20 points.

      "Santorum, that's Latin for 'asshole'"--Sen Bob Kerrey (D-NE)

      by Terryus on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 02:55:50 PM PST

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      •  playing it safe (0+ / 0-)

        We also played it safe by picking Hatch, and he LOST.  I think causality is much more complex.

        Basically, I'm not sure whether Franken is "electable" in Minnesota, and I don't think that question could be answered without trying.  But if he's not electable, it'll be because of a personality issue, not because he's "too liberal".  I don't think it's possible to be too liberal to get elected in Minnesota.

        Oh, and Norm Coleman is VERY beatable, just because he is exactly the sort of slick, deceptive politician Minnesotans dislike.

        They hate us for our freedoms. So if we stop being free, they stop hating us? Is THAT the plan?

        by Leggy Starlitz on Sun Dec 03, 2006 at 09:37:48 AM PST

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    •  agree with almost all of that (0+ / 0-)

      however, I think Wellstone winning wasn't as much of a sure thing as we now think of it.

      I dislike Coleman very very much, but I don't flatter myself by thinking everyone agrees with me.

      Norm is vulnerable because of MN's blue shading, and because of Bush-tarnish, but he is not without his own support, and we shouldnt underestimate that.

      Michelle Bachman: nutty even by wingnut standards

      by PaintBoy on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 02:58:43 PM PST

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    •  Ya, you betcha (1+ / 0-)
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      This sums up Minnesota politics pretty well.

      Minnesotans will also not elect someone just if they are a DFLer who is boring (Moe, Skip Humphrey), or rude (Hatch).

      Al is neither of these. He can win, because he knows Minnesotans and Minnesota values.

      •  He can be quite rude at times (0+ / 0-)

        When I've seen him on talk shows like hardball, about 85% of the time he is articulate, funny, and knows what he's doing.  About 15% of the time he starts ranting.  I remember once he just started yelling at Tony Blankley (although, to be fair, who wouldn't yell at Tony Blankley) and sounded like an ass.

        "Santorum, that's Latin for 'asshole'"--Sen Bob Kerrey (D-NE)

        by Terryus on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 03:21:06 PM PST

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    •  Not easily. (0+ / 0-)

      He probably would've won, but the race was close.

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      by DemocraticLuntz on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 03:58:02 PM PST

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  •  I think you might underestimate Al. (0+ / 0-)

    I do think there are good potential candidates out there for the seat and Al isn't the only hope.  That said, he has a buzz factor that the others don't have.    While that does inspire a lot of hate, I also think it'll help him to mobilize voters.  

    One thing he has going for him is that he wants it.  For years he has hinted at it.  He started taking the steps to go after this seat long before Coleman was as widely recognized as vulnerable as he is today.   He seems to have a desire to serve the state of MN and the country in an official capacity. That should help him overcome some of the Hollywood stigma he carries.

    His charisma and eloquence will blow Norm out of the water.  Whether that's enough to win an election, I don't know.  I like Al but one thing that worries me is his tendency to be a little too mean/bitter.  I think Amy Klobachar's positivity really served her well in the general election.

    Anyway, that's the positive thing about a crowded primary.  It'll be a great test for him to convince democrats that he can run and win.  Otherwise, we'll hopefully choose one of the other candidates.    

  •  Dylan. (0+ / 0-)

    51,245 votes for US Senator.

    by ben masel on Sat Dec 02, 2006 at 05:12:35 PM PST

  •  Sen. Webb skeleton's hidden in his novels (0+ / 0-)

    happen to backfire mightily on Allen.

    People, surprisingly enough, have easy time telling the difference between an act, or fiction, and the true person.  More precisely, I do not think that a comedian past is a demerit, because people with ease tell the difference between the concept "X is not serious" and "X tells jokes for living".

    Even more, I think that many people like the occasion to be so sophisticated that they can tell the difference.  "We are not country bumpkins, you know".

    One thing would have to be cleared, however.  Where does Al stand on the issue of ATM fees?  (I would love to something done about them, but it is more important that Al states clearly what is true and what is fiction).

  •  Franken? (0+ / 0-)

    Al Franken will be the Patty Wetterling of 2008.

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