Before anyone accuses me of calling out another poster by name, I just want to point out that I'm linking to an article. And maybe I agree with the Hotline's Daniel Glover when he writes about the blogosphere and says Steve Gilliard, does NOT "deserve to be heard".
Just because Gilliard was a popular Daily Kos front page poster, doesn't mean he deserves to be heard. Just because Gilliard (with help from Jen) has run a popular blog since August 2003, doesn't mean he deserves to be heard.
Just because you should read The News Blog doesn't mean Steve deserves to be heard. Why? Because a beltway type doesn't think Steve debates with "civility and dignity."
The problem is, that Steve does deserve to be heard because he is right.
When the DC crowd publishes shit, the very least bloggers should do is let people know that it is crap. Steve's sin appears to be using the following words:
bullshit
assclown
cretins
fucking silly
For somebody like like Glover who bills himself as an expert on the blogosphere, that should be pretty tame. But I don't think it was "civility" that was the problem, but what Steve said. In the comments at Wiskey Fire, our own Phoenix Woman said:
The English translation of Danny Glover's whiny-ass response:
"Gilliard and Ailes just took the facts of the situation and used them to beat my ass like a gong! My only recourse is to play the Civility Card, since I have no way in hell of winning on the facts."
For some reason, Glover thinks it is civil of him to imply BS when it comes to how others do their jobs. But it is uncivil for experts in his field to point out he had crap published under his byline?
H/T to Atrios, who is both uncivil and tries to be shrill. But Glover should thank Atrios, because the award bestowed upon the Hotline today is the only one Glover will win if he writes this crap.
UPDATE:: Gilliard:
It seems Danny Glover didn't like the criticism he got for his bullshit Times piece. Well, shit, this isn't J School, I can't just give him an F and make him rewrite it.
But I swear to god, these Washington wanna be journalists whine worse than small children. [...]
Danny, only an assclown hides behind civility when the reality was, and my point was, that your article was dead fucking wrong.
My God, in a decent newsroom, your collegues would laugh at you to your face. Just because you work for National Journal, some hothouse of Ivy Leaguers and bow tied fops who eat tea sandwiches and have the servants serve afternoon martinis, doesn't mean the rest of us do.
You people act like Jim Webb came from a cave when he was pissed about Bush fucking with him. Cowards, the lot of you. Maybe you need a testicle transplant, because if my post upset you, you have no balls, hell, there isn't an ounce of testosterone in your body, or estrogen, either. [...]
In short, you wrote a crock of shit article impuning the honesty and ethics of people with scant evidence and the inability to actually check facts. They made no secret of their ties and their activities. Yet, you feel free to imply they were whores selling to the highest bidder. Yet, you leave out Comrade Moose, Marshall Wittman, working for Party of One Sen. Joe Lieberman. He's a blogger. Or was.
Now, here's a burst of incivility, you fucking piece of shit.
How dare you say I don't have a right to be heard. Who the fuck appointed you civility monitor, you filithy garbage spewing piece of excrement. Just because you got some ass sucking job at some rag no one reads doesn't make you some kind of judge of anything. You should be happy that blogs with a much higher readership than you will ever see at your day job deigned to comment on your embarassing, poorly researched article.
They don't deserved to be heard? Oh fuck no. This isn't some Congress Club party where the Hill rats all try to bang each other and you try to get in sniffing distance of their pussies, but the real world. And here's a hint.
We don't fucking like you. We think you're the problem. You don't deserve civility, you deserve a boot in your ass for helping to ruin this country, the only thing some of us have. With your smug , bullshit attitudes, your contempt for the decency and values which made this country, your arrogant rejection of the very idea that actual citizens might want to save this republic from the cringing lickspittles like you, and you worry about civility.
Civility? Shove it up your ass and look for your balls, because they appear to be missing. Fucking gutless piece of shit. Don't you ever write I don't deserve to be heard.
Indeed.