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60 hours without power

Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 08:46:02 PM PDT

I couldn't tell you if anyone has diaried this, because I've been without electricity for 60 hours (I did search and didn't find anything). Thursday night/Friday morning a severe windstorm passed through Washington State knocking out power to about 1 million people. Our power came back on about 2PM on Sunday.

Since a lot of people were interested in the preparedness diaries a year or so ago, I thought I'd do a follow-up on an actual (minor for us, thankfully) disaster. So on the flip side is a chronological description of life here the past few days.

The biggest problem in cold weather areas is heat - 60 hours without heat and our pipes would have frozen (it was down into single digits by Friday night). Fortunately we rely on wood for most of our heat, and that never goes out. I don't know of another good solution for people without wood stoves or fireplaces (and don't count on them to work in an emergency if you haven't tried them out beforehand - chimneys get plugged by vines or bird's nests and chimney fires are a concern with dirty chimneys) - some of my neighbors will have frozen pipes.

Thursday night at 5:30PM we had just finished dinner and I was in our basement family room looking for something to watch on TV when the lights went out. Preparedness Tip #1: while in survival situations, the first things you consider are water and shelter, when the power goes out, the first thing you think about is light.

With no light, I had to stumble across the family room to the stairs, walking into to the TV cabinet once, but luckily not stepping on the dog (he hates when that happens). I made it up the stairs where my wife had already found the flashlights, and since it appeared the power would be out a while - 3 hours is about average for an outage here - we proceeded to locate, candles, kerosene lamps and our Coleman lantern.

While it might seem obvious, light really is the most important first consideration - you can't do much else without it. Flashlights won't last as long as we eventually needed without lots of extra batteries. With a flashlight, I went around shutting down computers (we run a home-based business), and then settled in to wait for the lights to come back on.

This outage wasn't caused by wind - we were in the middle of a snowstorm that eventually dumped about a foot of wet snow. At 7PM, the lights came back on. I started firing up our servers, but the internet connection was dead. I went out with a flashlight, cleaned the snow off the satellite dish, and as I came back in the door about 7:10PM, the power went out again.

We called the county utility (PUD) and they had an estimate of 8:30PM for power restoration, which they beat by a few minutes. Back to restoring computer operations.

Preparedness Tip #2: Put all of your electronic devices on outlet strips and turn off or unplug the outlet strips when the lights go out. Many newer electronic devices either can't be switched off when they lose power (so when power comes back on, they automatically turn on), or you can't tell from the pushbutton switch whether they're on or off. When the power finally came back on, either the surge in voltage or the stuttering (on, then off and back on a few times before finally staying on) took out my wife's LCD monitor. That's not the first time something like that has happened to us (this time it was because the monitor was plugged in to the wrong outlet on the uninterruptible power supply).

After screwing around trying to get a spare monitor to work, I finally had to sacrifice my LCD monitor for my wife's system, not having another working spare. After that, and reading dKos a little, I went to bed.

At 4AM on Friday, my wife woke me up to tell me the power had gone out again. This time it was blowing gale force outside. In fact the power had been out a few hours. Back to the routine of shutting down systems (they're all on battery backup, good for about 2-3 hours), and then back to bed. I got up about 7AM, and checking with the utility, found out the estimated time for restoring power was 5PM.

Preparedness Tip #3: Decisions - after 8-10 hours without power, most houses are going to get cold - it was in the 20s here on Friday with a forecast high of around 30F. It's probably worthwhile considering whether you should go someplace warm. For many people, someplace warm equals work - we work out of our house (and therefore were shutdown by the power outage). We couldn't leave anyway - the aforementioned foot of snow, plus (we found out later) a number of trees down across the county road that's the only way out - anyway, I would have thrown a chainsaw and logging chain in the car for just that eventuality, had I tried to get out.

Preparedness Tip #4: Heat - if you have gas, oil or electric heat, you have no heat when the power goes out. 15 hours (our 2AM to 5PM) probably isn't long enough to worry, unless it's below 0F, but eventually in an unheated house, the water pipes will freeze. If you can shut off the water before you leave, it will save a mess.

We have a woodstove and designed our house so that the water pipes aren't in an outside wall and outside the insulation (based on past experience). So heat wasn't a problem for us, and neither, really was the snow. I have a tractor-mounted 60 inch wide snowblower, and spent about 7 hours on Friday clearing our driveway and half-mile of private road and the driveways of 3 neighbors. Normally, another neighbor with a snowblower would do about half of that, but his blower won't handle wet snow.

Preparedness Tip #5: Food - We had burgers for lunch on Friday, cooked on our gas grill on the porch outside. We also have a Coleman stove, and can cook on top of the woodstove too. Most people probably won't run out of food in 15 hours.

My wife had to leave for town around 3PM - it was her night to work at the local Teen Center. My daughter came home from college for Christmas around 4PM. At 5:30PM, the power still wasn't on as predicted, so I called the utility again - the new estimate was ... Saturday afternoon. My daughter and I had steaks and fries - cooked on the gas grill again.

Preparedness Tip #6: Communication - I called my wife in town and let her know about the new estimated time for restoring power. That and all those calls to the utility were possible because telephone service usually isn't interrupted by a power outage - the phone companies provide their own power, and more of their lines are underground. However, by 5PM Friday we were down to one working telephone. We have 2 4-line phones, 3 or 4 cordless 2-line phones, and one 2-line phone on the kitchen wall. Only the latter still worked, because all of the other phones require AC power to operate, even with battery backup. It's probably a good idea to have a phone that will work without AC power, or a cell phone. Cell phone reception doesn't exist anywhere up our canyon.

When my wife got the new estimate, we discussed Preparedness Tip #7: water. Water turned out to be our biggest preparedness problem. Over a 15 hour period, the only real problem with water at our house was toilet flushing - we have a well, and the pressure tank holds enough water (even with the pump disabled) to carry us through the better part of a day (if you have "city water", water, like telephone, probably won't be interrupted). We used to keep more water on hand, but we were down to 3 gallons of potable water, and another 6 gallons of water that wasn't stored to be drinkable.

You need water to drink, cook, wash dishes, for hygiene and to flush. So my wife picked up another 6 gallons of water ($1/gallon) at Safeway. We did melt some snow, and could have relied on that, but it takes a lot of snow (and heat) to make a usable amount of water.

So Saturday, we puttered around the house, did some more cleanup from the snowstorm, filled the wood rack next to the house from the woodshed. My daughter convinced us we wanted pizza for dinner, so my wife went to town to get that, and picked up a little extra kerosene and a chimney for a kerosene lamp we had. She got the last gallon of kerosene at the hardware store, and they were out of Coleman fuel (our Coleman lantern and stove are dual fuel - they can use gasoline too, and we always have that on hand for the tractor).

Around 5:30PM the power still wasn't on as estimated, so we called the utility again. The new estimate was ... Tuesday Afternoon. Another quick trip to town with 8 gallon jugs (you can fill them at Safeway for 41 cents each) and bought another 10 gallons of water. But now we have another problem - we run a business that needs phone, fax, email and internet, and is otherwise fairly computer intensive (we don't keep all of those computers running for fun).

We decided to call a friend in town and see if we could set up for business at her house - town still had power. As an aside, town lost power during the snowstorm - except our friend. For some reason she was the only house in her neighborhood that didn't lose power. People started calling her and asking if they could come over - were they cold or stuck in the dark? Nope - they just couldn't watch TV.

Our friend was fine with our invasion, and she even has high-speed internet. In the middle of the night on Saturday, my wife wakes me up: Alison doesn't have a phone! She has a cell phone, but no land line. After some rude grunts, I suggested we talk about it in the morning.

In the morning, we decide to move some of our computer stuff to our friend's house anyway, and get a cheap T-Mobile cell-phone for our use - at $100 or so it's a bargain, since we have several large orders pending. Then another friend calls just to talk, and suggests renting a generator - something we hadn't considered. Fortunately, the local rental place is open on Sunday mornings, so I zip into town and pick up a 3700 watt generator ($45/day), which will run our computers and phones (it would run our pump and freezer too, but that requires advance planning and preparation, which we hadn't done). Preparedness Tip #8: If you own a business, have an emergency plan and test it, or buy business interruption insurance.

Coming back from town, about halfway up the county road to our house, the road is blocked by a PUD truck. I stop and talk to the lineman - he worked 40 hours straight, got 7 hours to sleep, and now has been on the job 24 hours straight, but other than being tired, doesn't mind it too much - "It's like being an accountant at tax time" he says. He estimates we'll have power around 2PM.

So the generator stays in the back of the truck. My wife and daughter come back from town after showering, checking email on a friend's computer, and filling water jugs. We have lunch (soup cooked on the woodstove, and leftover pizza reheated there too).

2:30PM comes, and the lights are still out. We drag the generator out of the truck, fire it up and I run extension cords to the computers in the basement. The UPS that all the computers plug into doesn't like the generator. I come upstairs to see how my wife's doing and she says, "What'd you do? The lights in here work."

They work because the power has been on for the last 45 minutes, judging from the fact that we have plenty of hot water (but no water pressure - I have to restart the pump manually). Last Preparedness Tip: Leave a light on. Because the power died in the middle of the night, none of the lights were on. Even though we were continually flipping switches when walking into dark rooms, we apparently flipped them back off when no lights came on, so when the power finally did come on, we didn't notice.

So all in all, we survived pretty painlessly. Our two biggest mistakes were not having enough water on hand and not having a business continuation plan for long power outages - we have one for forest fires, but it turns out that one wasn't too good either, since it relied on the same friend who no longer has telephone (but we have other friends - they're just a longer drive away).

Should you think about this kind of thing? We live in a fairly remote area, but sections of cities were dark too. With some climate scientists predicting increases in severe weather, plus the age and condition of much of the electricity infrastructure (as in east coast and midwest blackouts), a snowstorm, ice storm, wind storm, hurricane, tornado or other severe weather or just the next blackout could put you in the same spot.

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  •  Thanks for this! (16+ / 0-)

    I'm writing from an office-in-home business as well, running on woodstove for heat, but the recommendations are first-class. Power strips, food, water, and persistence sounds like a good combination.

    We're going to need more info like this.

  •  Power goes out often here... (10+ / 0-)

    ...though rarely more than a few hours.  But often like maybe once a week on average.  Surge protectors are essential, but that's also 'cuz the power also spikes a lot here.  (Not to mention the lightning...)

    Gas heater works fine when the power's out.  No idea why you would say it wouldn't.

    Water, however, also goes out when the power goes out.  When there's warning (like for a big storm though not for an earthquake), good idea to lay some water aside to carry you through.

    Candles help.  Supplement to using up a bunch of (toxic) batteries, and also add a wee bit of heat.

    John McCain voted against health care for kids.

    by Land of Enchantment on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:04:37 PM PDT

    •  Unfortunately for us (6+ / 0-)

      power usually goes off in Tucson during the summer monsoons ... we want it to be COOL, and candles don't help! Water is a big thing here - less for us, because we're on (blech) city water, but we do keep some aside for emergencies anyway.

      If your gas heater has an electric blower, that part wouldn't work. We're all electric here, so we're SOL in power outages. Fireplace works, though, if the power should happen to go off when it's cold outside.

      -8.00, -7.08

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      by emeraldmaiden on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:09:16 PM PDT

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    •  Gas and electricity (7+ / 0-)

      Pilotless gas furnaces (which I assume is most, but don't know since I haven't had one in years) need electricity for ignition; some have a thermocouple that senses heat and shuts off the gas valve if there's a problem - so you need electricity to keep that valve open; all of them that have blowers need electricity to circulate the heat.

      A gas heater with a pilot will still work though - hadn't thought of that, but I doubt it's very common in the north.

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      by badger on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:17:35 PM PDT

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      •  Ah, that's the difference. (3+ / 0-)

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        Pilot light here, shut off completely for about half the year.  The heater's rudimentary - no thermostat either.  Faux woodstove thing.  The house is passive solar, so the heater never more than a top off, because it never drops below 50, even without it.  (And it does get COLD here, sometimes below zero.)  The stove is gas, too, with electric ignition.  But still easy enough to use a match to light it.

        But with the well, no water when the power's out.  That's the problem.

        John McCain voted against health care for kids.

        by Land of Enchantment on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:42:27 PM PDT

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        •  Any way to do a manual override (0+ / 0-)

          on the well? Or set a windmill?

          Probably unworkable possibilities!

          •  I'd like to add solar pump someday... (0+ / 0-)

            ...with PV collectors.  But really requires a cistern, too.  So more money than available at present.  Manual override on the well?  Don't think so.

            John McCain voted against health care for kids.

            by Land of Enchantment on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 11:31:58 PM PDT

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          •  Our well (3+ / 0-)

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            is 175 feet deep - at least that's where the pump sits. And pumps are normally 220 Volt (so you can use smaller wire down the well casing, I suppose - they don't draw that much current usually), so you need a generator that puts out 220v.

            One possibility is an underground storage tank. People with low-flow wells (not a lot of gallons per minute) sometimes have big plastic tanks so the well pump can run for long periods to slowly fill the tank, while they can pump water at a faster rate from the tank to the house. They're usually not buried too deep and have an access cover, so you could run a bucket on a rope down into the tank.

            Je suis Marxiste, tendance Groucho

            by badger on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 11:45:00 PM PDT

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            •  That sounds sensible. (0+ / 0-)

              I'd like to see more cisterns up here in the PNW, anything from roof-runoff collectors (for June-September garden use) to something more sophisticated.

              My feeling is that eventually, maybe sooner, it won't be possible for cities to rely on snowpak for water supplies. Any movement toward conservation now should help build knowledge for more technically complex means of containment.

        •  See elsewhere (1+ / 0-)

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          in this thread for power inverters in your car. Look into wiring your water pump so you can plug it into an inverter. Cross your fingers and hope it meets the electrical code.

          You measure a democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists. -- Abbie Hoffman

          by frostyinPA on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 11:37:08 PM PDT

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          •  Power inverters don't come cheap (0+ / 0-)

            Not to mention that it would take some expertise to wire it.  I need a brake job on the 6-year-old care, and coming up with money to pay for that is a problem.  You buying the inverter?

            John McCain voted against health care for kids.

            by Land of Enchantment on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 11:44:46 PM PDT

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            •  Off-the-shelf item (1+ / 0-)

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              I'm using one that plugs into the cigarette lighter and has a standard 120VAC receptacle. IIRC, it cost around $50. No wiring needed.

              100W gives you about 1 amp of current. Others on this thread have noted that a heating system could pull 3 to 4 amps, which would make this alternative inadequate for heat.

              I don't have enough experience with water pumps to know how much current they draw.

              You measure a democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists. -- Abbie Hoffman

              by frostyinPA on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 05:40:24 AM PDT

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      •  The thermostat is electric, though... (1+ / 0-)

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        Even if there's a pilot light, the furnace won't ignite without power to send a signal back and forth to the thermostat.

        Without electricty, modern gas furnaces are useless, too. Some systems DO have provision for an external power source, in which case you could run it off a car batter, or a car battery through an inverter.

        •  Great idea (0+ / 0-)

          I hadn't thought about car battery inverters, but that would probably be enough to handle ignition on a gas furnace (questionable whether it would run the fan though).

          You'd still want to prepare ahead for that though.

          For example, I thought about wiring some way to run our pump (220 volt) off the generator, which could have done it, but decided that doing rewiring in the middle of an emergency that wasn't life threatening wasn't a good idea.

          Je suis Marxiste, tendance Groucho

          by badger on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 10:15:04 PM PDT

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        •  64hrs here, last 14 generator ran furnace (4+ / 0-)

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          We made it.  Lost power at 8pm thursday.

          Sat morning my parents had power and house was 59F inside.  We packed up the kids and left.  Large tropical fish tank was at 66F rather than 80F.

          Found a generator at my parents house with a gummed up carb - hadn't been drained after the storm of 93.  Spent all day fixing it.

          7PM made it back home.  House at 49F and tank at 59F.  Fish hiding but alive.  Started gen.  Plugged in one pump and a heater.

          Ran to home depot and got locking AC plugs.  One male and two female and a heavy duty extension cord.

          Turned off furnace breaker and main breaker.  Don't forget to do both - you will die if you pick wrong breaker and the power comes one.

          Cut the flexible conduit feeding into furnace about in the middle.  Attached male locking AC plug to furnace side of conduit and wires.  Cut female end off extension cord and attached the locking female end.  Plugged extension cord into furnace and then into generator.  And bingo - heat!  9PM.

          Then attached other female end to hot side of the wires for when power came back.  Then flipped main breaker back on leaving furnace off (in case of miswiring).

          When power came on today at noon, I turned off gen.  Plugged furnace into the other female and flipped on breaker.  Works.

          Anyway, wanted to post this.  I was about to do the conversion for my neighbors house.  You can alternate who is using the generator to run the furnace fan in order to get a couple homes up into the more livable 60F range.

          Generator is now at somebody elses home with similar modification to their furnace.  This is safer than backfeeding the wiring in your home - which can kill the lineworkers.

          •  Thanks! (1+ / 0-)

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            That's the kind of thing I didn't want to do for our well pump - at least not under pressure. It's definitely worth it to get heat though.

            And it's absolutely important to have a transfer switch or take some other precautions like switching your main breaker off to protect both yourself and utility workers - I'm glad you emphasized that.

            My wife used to have a saltwater aquarium, so I can appreciate the urgency of protecting those critters too - they don't like any changes in temperature.

            And the best part is sharing.

            Je suis Marxiste, tendance Groucho

            by badger on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 10:48:22 PM PDT

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            •  Yeah, safety is important. Don't kill anybody... (2+ / 0-)

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              ...either you or the lineworker.  That's the key point.

              Essentially you can boil down my post to the following:

              I put a male plug on the furnace rather than having it hardwired into the house.  Then you can plug the furnace into the generator without needing to put electricity into the homes wiring.

              To which I'll add: if you have a generator and you are cold find somebody in your cellphone contact list who really knows electricity.  Probably you know somebody who is always rewiring something in their house, call them.  Or PM me and I'll come do it.

              DO NOT REWIRE YOUR FURNACE UNLESS YOU KNOW HOW TO DO IT.  Please, I don't want to hear about you on AM710 tommorow morning.

          •  BE CAREFULL WITH THOSE GENERATORS!!!! (2+ / 0-)

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            had to put that in caps, this mornings papers headline reads "over 100 carbon monoxide poisoning cases in northwest". it is temptimpting to put them in your garage for ease of refueling, put them outside of the garage door and keep the door closed while it runs. carbon monoxide is odorless, even if you don't smell exhaust you can still be poisoned from it. and don't attempt to hook it into your circuit breaker panel if you don't know how to properly- if you insist, at least be certain to pull your eletric meter off so that you don't get fried if the power were to come on unexpectedly.
              i went without power for 9 days after the 2004 hurricanes, granted we weren't cold but piture this, every door and window boarded up and the plumbing going haywire spewing raw sewage into the house with no power to run a shopvac or snake to fix the problem itself. i can definately sympathise.
              be safe, keep warm and hopefully it'll be back on REAL soon. but most of all, be carefull, folks, we value your presence here greatly.

            impeachment-it does the body good impeachment-it isn't just for blow jobs anymore impeachment-i can say no more i expect no less

            by playtonjr on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 04:21:22 AM PDT

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            •  sewage backups (2+ / 0-)

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              ...can be prevented by having a backflow check valve installed in your sewer line.  

              These backups occur in city sewer systems when the power is out to the transfer pumps located in cisterns under the streets.  Ordinarily, your sewage flows to the nearest cistern, where the transfer pump lifts it again to a higher level pipe in the street, where it continues to flow by gravity to the next cistern, and onward ultimately to the sewage treatment plant.  When the power goes off, the pumps fail to operate, and eventually the cisterns back up into the houses unless they are equipped with check valves.

              Yes, this costs $$.  

              However, probably less expensive than hiring a "forensic cleaning service" to haul your shit-soaked belongings out of a shit-flooded basement, and sanitize the walls and floor down there.  That is not a DIY task, unless you have a nuke suit and know how to work in a highly biohazardous environment, and know how to handle and safely use high-concentration bleach products.

              In many areas, check valves are required by local code.  

              Another thing the check valve will prevent:  Nowadays, cities keep sewer lines unblocked by using a machine that injects water under high pressure in the direction opposite of normal flow.  These are the large complicated-looking trucks with the big tanks and lots of hoses, that are also used for cleaning out the gullies and occasionally for other maintenance tasks.  When the sewer cleaning function is used, it can cause some of this water to back up into houses along the sewer line.  If everyone is equipped with check valves, no problem.  If not, ...uh oh.  

            •  Thanks to you and the other people (0+ / 0-)

              who mentioned this. It's something I didn't think of mentioning (also something we would never do). Our biggest concern with the generator was how to get the extension cords into the house without creating a huge draft, but the generator definitely stays outside.

              Je suis Marxiste, tendance Groucho

              by badger on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 08:37:18 AM PDT

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    •  Gas heater (0+ / 0-)

      Most home heating systems turn on and off from a thermostat, which runs off AC. No power, no heat.

      You measure a democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists. -- Abbie Hoffman

      by frostyinPA on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 11:33:42 PM PDT

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  •  Cool story. (6+ / 0-)

    I have those emergency preparedness diaries in my hotlist.

    What kind of business do you have? (if I may ask)

    You are entitled to express your opinion. But you are NOT entitled to agreement.

    by DawnG on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:06:17 PM PDT

    •  me too (hotlisted) (3+ / 0-)

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      Only thing is, in an emergency, I won't be able to get to them. Guess I ought to print them out, along with this one.

      •  Good point I forgot (5+ / 0-)

        Even to use someone else's computer/internet, we'd still need all of our logons and passwords, plus all of our customer and vendor phone numbers - ours are all on the computer too (we realized), so we'll be printing out all that stuff real soon.

        Je suis Marxiste, tendance Groucho

        by badger on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:19:20 PM PDT

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        •  that's what thumb drives are for (1+ / 0-)

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          i have a thumb drive with my internet bookmarks and various other files permasaved on it. Update it once a week, or less frequently if lazy, and I am..

          •  Another thing I forgot (0+ / 0-)

            We already have all of that stuff backed up nightly on CD-R/W.  Our data is spread out over several machines (partly so we can move one or two machines if we have to evacuate - forest fire - and still be minimally operational), but everything gets compressed and written to CD nightly.

            Didn't even think of that until now - I think of backup just in terms of hard drive crashes or stupid programmer (me, usually) errors, like reformatting hard drives.

            Je suis Marxiste, tendance Groucho

            by badger on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 11:50:55 PM PDT

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            •  You might want to consider backing up to (1+ / 0-)

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              an external hard drive at this point since they're so huge and cheap. The advantage is that, depending on how much data you need to have backed up (not just incremental nightly backups but the full set), you can generally fit all your data onto one of these, rather than span them over several CDs or even DVDs. It's also faster.

              But most of all, you can just grab the drive and take it to the backup computer, plug it in, and you're good to go, rather than having to restore a bunch of discs onto it (and hoping that the right backup SW is installed on it). You can also back up your IE favorites and such onto it.

              Sic transit gloria mundi - ancient Roman proverb

              by kovie on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 03:14:57 AM PDT

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    •  What steps have you taken to be prepared? (1+ / 0-)

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      Since you read the diaries, that is?

      Be good to each other. It matters.

      by AllisonInSeattle on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:15:33 PM PDT

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      •  not much really. (2+ / 0-)

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        I have all of our important papers (birth certificates, marraige certificates, passport, etc) in an easily grabbable tin in the closet in case we need to leave the house in a hurry.

        I have a battery pack in my car that I can run electronic devices off of (with a car jack) if neccessary.

        And that's about it as far as actual emegergency prep is concerned.  I do need to work on that.

        You are entitled to express your opinion. But you are NOT entitled to agreement.

        by DawnG on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 10:50:50 PM PDT

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        •  Pick just *one* thing for this week (0+ / 0-)

          Say, store one or two gallons of water.

          Next week worry about one more thing. Or start the first week of January.

          Buy an extra 10-pack of tuna at Costco one week. Or something similar.

          Be good to each other. It matters.

          by AllisonInSeattle on Tue Dec 19, 2006 at 02:13:16 AM PDT

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    •  Our business (13+ / 0-)

      We sell hard-to-find (allocated, long lead time or obsolete) electronic components to electronic equipment manufacturers. We're what's politely called and 'independent distributor', less politely called a 'broker', and even less politely called 'gray market' (but as the old joke goes, we don't care what you call us, as long as you call).

      Most of our business (esp international) is via email or fax. We also use the internet heavily to locate components.

      2007 will be our 20th year in business.

      Je suis Marxiste, tendance Groucho

      by badger on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:23:27 PM PDT

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  •  excellent advice (7+ / 0-)

    Great diary. I read a couple news items about people during your power outage who used outdoor grills indoors for heat and wound up hospitalized with carbon monoxide poisoning. I thought everyone knew you can't do that, but apparently there were several different families who did this.

    •  Yes (4+ / 0-)

      That's why I didn't recommend kerosene heaters - I don't know if they're safe - plus the precaution about checking out your fireplace or wood stove if they're not in regular use. A lot of people burn down their homes with chimney fires.

      Je suis Marxiste, tendance Groucho

      by badger on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:25:16 PM PDT

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      •  chimney fire (1+ / 0-)

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        We had a chimney fire once. It was actually from an uncleaned furnace chimney, when my ex and I were too young and naive to know you had to have them cleaned every season. The flames were shooting 6 or 8 feet into the air out the top of the chimney when luckily a passerby noticed and knocked at our door to tell us.

        I used to use a kerosene heater in the winter when I lived in an old uninsulated stone house in PA. I never got sick from the fumes, but the house was very drafty so it had plenty of ventilation!

    •  100+ people (1+ / 0-)

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      with one death in the greater Seattle area as of this afternoon, starting from the Thursday night storm. Grills and patio heaters just weren't designed for indoor use.

      Most kerosene and propane/butane heaters state they should not be used without good ventilation. There are ventless gas heaters designed for indoor use, although they are not legal in some places. There's models for natural and bottled gas, so you can pick what fits your situation.  If you live in area prone to winter power outages, you might consider spending the several hundred dollars to set up a room with one of these (somme sizes can heat several rooms, but obviously will burn more gas)

  •  What excellent advice (6+ / 0-)

    We had over half a million households lose power as the result of an ice storm a few weeks ago and some people were without power for almost a week.  These are excellent preparedness tips.  Thanks.

  •  I live in a rural, mountain community and... (5+ / 0-)

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    every winter we end up power-less for a few days. A couple of weeks ago, we were without for three days - I have all kinds of contingency plans but am still chagrinned when it happens and I'm not as well-prepared as I thought. Every winter, I try to keep several oil lamps handy (and an extra jug or two of lamp-oil), a kerosene heater (with extra supplies of kerosene) and dozens of candles. Cooking is the biggest challenge, as you noted. I heat water on top of the kerosene heater - same for soup - won't come to a roiling boil but gets hot enough for safe eating. My biggest worry is always the stuff in the refrigerator and freezer...

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    by va dare on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:20:51 PM PDT

    •  Frozen food (5+ / 0-)

      We put buckets of snow in the refrigerator, and that seemed to work pretty well. We have a freezer full of food and when I went to take a loaf of bread out, it was pretty soft, so I was worried. But after the power came back on I finally did a thorough check and everything was still rock solid.

      We'd planned on using the generator to run the freezer, but the outlet is in the wall behind the freezer, and we would have had to empty it first to get at the plug (another problem to fix). Since it was below freezing, we could have boxed everything up and put it outside, but that's a lot of work, and subject to critters.

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      by badger on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:28:47 PM PDT

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      •  Don't they make critter-proof containers (2+ / 0-)

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        e.g. for camping, that you could put at least some of your food in to avoid spoilage? Seems like a shame to let it spoil if the power is out for too long.

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        by kovie on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 03:21:55 AM PDT

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        •  Yes (0+ / 0-)

          but we don't have any. It's definitely on the list of things we need to better prepare for.

          It's kind of surprising how much food a freezer holds - it takes a lot of boxes, which we always have on hand for shipping or from receiving. We thought of putting all of the food from the freezer in the SUV, but then we'd be driving around with a few hundred pounds of food and no room for anything else.

          Our neighbors used to keep their freezer outside all the time, which would have solved the problem. Except their freezer got raided by a bear, who even ate a pound of Starbucks coffee. After the first time, they parked their tractor in front of the freezer and tipped the bucket to hold the freezer door shut. The bear climbed in the bucket and a ripped the door in half, using the edge of the bucket like you'd use a ruler to rip a sheet of paper in half.

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          by badger on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 08:49:41 AM PDT

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  •  Looks like you WERE prepared... (1+ / 0-)

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    ...sounds a little obsessive compulsive to me. Sorry.

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    by ImpeachKingBushII on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:23:02 PM PDT

    •  Perhaps (3+ / 0-)

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      We used to do a lot of backpacking and camping, and both of us, together and separately, have lived for long periods (up to 6 months) in places where electricity wasn't an option. That provides you with a lot of the stuff you need to get by when the power goes off.

      We've also lived in rural areas most of our adult lives (I grew up in a city, my wife on a farm), and you learn to plan ahead. None of our immediate neighbors had any problems, and in fact we didn't even bother to check on them (although we run into most of them over the course of few days anyway).

      Maybe it's obsessive-compulsive - I just like being somewhat self-sufficient but living some place where people will help out when needed. We could live any place and still run our business, but chose to live here, knowing what it could entail.

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      by badger on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:38:11 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks for the diary, badger. (2+ / 0-)

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        You've given me some important reminders about EP that I've let slip.  Thanks.

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        by 2lucky on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:45:28 PM PDT

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      •  Better overprepared than under (2+ / 0-)

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        As an occasional camper and backpacker, I also tend to think in terms of provisioning and planning for roughing it. It's actually kind of fun, in an OCD sort of way. And hell, these days it's a good idea to be prepared even if you live in an area that's rarely affected by nature. Never know what might happen. (I was in NYC on 9/11 and this definitely changed my outlook about some things and stopped me from taking them for granted any longer.) And as the boy scouts say...

        Sic transit gloria mundi - ancient Roman proverb

        by kovie on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 03:25:51 AM PDT

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    •  Not at all. (1+ / 0-)

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      Not if you've been through the kinds of things that can happen when the weather goes to extremes.

      The worst experience I ever had was when I was 15.  It's kind of a long story, but basically the town I lived in flooded, stranding me at a friend's house and my parents in another town on the other side.  None of us could get home; if we'd actually been home when the flooding happened, we wouldn't have been able to go anywhere.  The well water would have probably been polluted by the heightened water table.  Food and fresh water was three miles away in one direction and about 7 in the other, and blocked by the flood in both directions.  This lasted for three days.  Luckily, my only inconvenience was not having a change of clothes or homework assignments, but I hate to think what would have happened if I had been home alone (as I often was after school) or even with my parents but completely unprepared.

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      by tryptamine on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 10:02:44 PM PDT

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  •  Excellent preparedness diary (6+ / 0-)

    and maybe you should add disaster preparedness to your tags. Everyone should plan on being self reliant for 72 hours should something similar happen in their region.

    Glad everyone in the badger clan is safe and sound!

  •  AuntieNeoCon did a before diary (3+ / 0-)

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    and then an after update (today) about their situation. Just FWIW.

    Your preparedness tips are awesome.

    Thanks for the info.

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    by MTmofo on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:32:58 PM PDT

  •  Fantastic diary (2+ / 0-)

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    We were lucky; we got power back up by 10 pm Friday night. I don't know what we would have done had it taken longer.

    I had undertaken maybe half of your preparation suggestions...but should be prepared with them all. Excellent reminder.

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    by eugene on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:34:37 PM PDT

  •  Backup lighting (4+ / 0-)

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    There are a number of AC mains charged battery-backup lighting devices, that go on when the power goes out; commercial units are used for emergency lighting. Several are small, low ocst devices that plug into a wall outlet; they have a socket or two in them that you can plug into so you don't lose any of the wall outlet.

    Several of these around the house in critical locations will let you find the flashlights, candles, lanterns, and so on, without falling down stairs and so on. A couple are easy to unplug from the outlet and use as flashlights. The low cost devices will only run for a few hours before the battery discharges, but that's plenty of time to get other lighting sources in place.

    And I have a 'night-light' plugged into one of those, so at a glance I can tell the state of line power. I've also got a larger one ceiling mounted to illuminate the breaker box and surrounding area.

    •  Right (0+ / 0-)

      That's something I thought of while stumbling around in the dark. Our smoke detectors have emergency lights, but it appears those only work when they detect smoke.

      We also used to have a flashlight that plugged into the wall for recharging and lit up if the power went out, but it got lost somewhere.

      Je suis Marxiste, tendance Groucho

      by badger on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:45:58 PM PDT

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  •  Two essentials... (4+ / 0-)

    I got a generator a few years ago after an ice storm left me without power for several days. That is one thing I now consider essential.

    After Katrina I found that another essential to have is an Internet capable phone that has browser capability. You can get them as cheap as $10 from Virgin Mobile. They cannot do as much as a laptop but you can send and receive emails, send text messages, and access news and weather sites to see what is going on when you are in the dark. If you have enough patience you can even post to blogs with them.

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    by Rob on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:38:22 PM PDT

  •  Great diary. (1+ / 0-)

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    In the place we used to live, the power would go out all the time, often with seemingly no reason at all.  There were several times that windstorms came through and, just as we were sighing in relief that it had passed without the power going out, the lights would flicker and go off.  My husband's LCD monitor was ruined, just like your wife's, but my laptop was fine, so perhaps you should consider investing in one just in case, if you don't already have one.

    "You can't expect people to have the virtue of purity when they are poor." -Bob Dylan

    by tryptamine on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 09:55:05 PM PDT

  •  Catalytic heater for apartments and no-woodstove (2+ / 0-)

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    Best of them is the Mr. Heater. Yes, it runs on a propane tank, but it doesn't "burn" it, per se. It runs it across a bed of catalyst, causing a reaction that breaks it down and generates heat, but little or no CO.

    They're the only sort of fueled heater safe to use indoors. And, to keep them away from kids, they can be wallmounted (have a picture screw you know you can also hang it on).

    Coleman makes a "cat" heater, but it's vastly more inefficient and makes a mess of powder for some reason, and doesn't have a front guard grid.

  •  Diary series recommendation (5+ / 0-)

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    Oh, regarding tip 1, I'd add that for lighting, an essential tool for any emergengy kit is a battery-free flashlight - you turn a handle or shake it for power.

    But back to the diary series recommendation: back in 2005 a kossack called AlphaGeek did a phenomenal series of five diaries on disaster preparedness. Very thorough, from someone who obviously knows his stuff!

    Here is a link to the question and answer diary which followed. From there, you'll find links to all the diaries in the series.

  •  I knew where you were posting from (2+ / 0-)

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    ...instantly, by the title.

    I somehow missed this storm by being in Vancouver for a Canucks game and then missed their storm by being back in Seattle.  Fortunately, where I live kept its power and there were minimal problems for me.  But almost all my coworkers had problems with power at home.  As one of them said, it doesn't take much of a disturbance in the infrasctructure of Seattle to make the entire city a little crazy.

  •  Another option for stove if NO KIDS... (3+ / 0-)

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    Only if you don't have kids and only for single houses. In case of a prolonged outage or serious, serious disaster in cold regions.

    You can aquire a surplus "portable woodburning stove". Many were made for Norwegian countries. Make a window cutout panel for its pipe ahead of time, and determine what length of stovepipe you'd need to have a run that went clear of the house and above the level of the roof, with a spark arrestor as well, and a brace to keep it from tipping and leaning against the house. Then keep the whole mess in storage somewhere, the pipes usually go inside the stove.

    Just in case. And don't set it on anything flammable, bare tile or a raised platform of bricks only.

    But as I said, only if you don't have kids. They're not the safest thing in the world, they get frightfully hot, and are bare metal, but if it can save you from freezing by burning dry wood and scrap paper, hey.

  •  Consider ... (3+ / 0-)

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    the value of renewable power (with backup) for continuity of operations / emergency power requirements. How much $ value is there to have relatively high assurance that you will never be completely without power?

    If I had a business reason to justify it, PVs would go on my roof tomorrow.

    As I can't tax deduct them for business and I still have other things to do for energy efficiency (about to do solar hot water), the solar PV is on the 'wish' list for the future.

    PS: Glad that you made it through safely.  

    •  Actually (1+ / 0-)

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      I was just looking at solar systems a few days ago. About $22,000 with batter backup for 2100 watts, or $76,000 without batteries for 12,000 watts.

      Also, we're in the shadow of the ridge across from us (about 1000 feet higher than us) from Thanksgiving to Groundhog Day, so we'd have to locate it about 100 yds behind the house.

      Right now, it would be cheaper for us to rent office space in town just for emergencies - even just something closet sized. We don't keep much inventory or manufacture anything - just sales, and most stuff comes in and goes out the same day.

      But I'd love to be able to afford a photovoltaic system some day.

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      by badger on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 10:28:42 PM PDT

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      •  Might not make sense for you ... (4+ / 0-)

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        But numbers seem a bit off ...

        1.  Except, perhaps, for the electrical connections, relatively straightforward to do solar PV as DIY.
        1.  I had quotes, not long ago, for everything required for a 3 kw system, with battery back up, for less than $20k.
        1.  Key for solar PV, at this time, is to make sure efficiency is well in place before the solar investment and, as part of 'emergency' system, having a controller so that you can ensure only 'essential' requirements can draw power when the grid is down.
        1.  There is a major company that has begun to put solar PV on all its stores ... because the cost of the cash registers at a store being down for an hour is about 25 of the cost of putting in a solar PV system with battery backup that would keep them up. Since the chain average something like 14.5 hours/year of down time across its stores due to power disruptions, their estimate was that the solar PV would pay for itself three times over just in the first year.

        ...

  •  So Florida here (2+ / 0-)

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    we have our hurricanes.
    The house now has a 15,000 watt generator that will run the house. you have to use your brain & not over load it. so when your cooking no washing clothes  things like that.
    this last season I had 2, 55 gallon drums of fuel on hand.

    We were ready this year. I've used up the fuel & will fill them up again in June.
    I do need to come up with a better way to get the fuel out of the drums though.

    Nice diary
    Thanks for posting

  •  Make sure the gas tank in your vehicle isn't near (2+ / 0-)

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    Else you won't be driving much of anywhere. Having been in Redmond, Washington in this storm, I can vouch for the fact that, yes, electricity is what runs them pumps at gas stations. And have wood and a fireplace for heat. No heat sucks, even if just for a few days.

  •  We are prepared (1+ / 0-)

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    Ten years ago we were without power for 8 days. Rural, so no water, either. I determined never to have that happen again, so now we have  a generator which can run everything, we heat with wood, and have propane anyway, if we need it. During a power failure I turn on everything and smugly keep on blogging.

    •  60 hours got us thinking (3+ / 0-)

      The previous record was 31 hours, and this could have gone to 5 days or more if some of the utility's estimates had been correct. Plus we'd never had to worry about losing several days of business before - that wakes you up too.

      We're considering alternatives and will be doing some stuff over the next few weeks - we've got a few months of winter left.

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      by badger on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 10:55:10 PM PDT

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  •  A very good list! (2+ / 0-)

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    We're in Portland, and before things got bad here we pulled the flashlights from the camping gear and checked their batteries, filled some pots with water, secured the back deck and front porch (Or so we thought. Who knew we'd eventually end up having to lash large items to the deck railing with nylon rope?), located the camp stove and propane and lit jar candles in each occupied room so we could see in the eventuality of an outage.

    Our power merely flickered repeatedly, but never went out.

    Glad you survived relatively unscathed!

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    by CJB on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 10:55:17 PM PDT

    •  The Law of the Perversity of Nature (1+ / 0-)

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      If you're prepared, the bad stuff never happens - if I hadn't rented a generator, we'd still be without power. I firmly believe that nature is perverse.

      My daughter left Portland for home Friday morning and hit a bad hailstorm just to the east of there, then had a long delay going over one of the passes (a semi stuck in the snow), and then arrived home to 2 1/2 days without electricity (and now it sounds like her flight to CA to visit her boyfriend after Christmas might be screwed up by damage to Sea-Tac, where her connecting flight leaves from).

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      by badger on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 11:35:51 PM PDT

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  •  My wife's cousins live near Newport ... (2+ / 0-)

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    ..Oregon. They're still without power, too. But their phone works so we got to talk to them for an hour this morning.

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    by Meteor Blades on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 11:08:42 PM PDT

  •  Generator alternative (3+ / 0-)

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    Everyone on this blog owns a generator -- in your car. Pick up a power inverter that plugs into the cigarette lighter. You should be able to run at least 100W worth of stuff off of it. We routinely power a TV and a Playstation on long trips!

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    by frostyinPA on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 11:35:43 PM PDT

  •  Lake Union Seattle here (5+ / 0-)

    I live in a boat on Lake Union - we did not lose power but it was pretty interesting bouncing around in 60 mph wind gusts. I have propane so can boil water if I need to...living on a boat is a lot like camping all the time anyway, so I break out the 20-below sleeping bag and huddle with my malamute. If it is really bad a bunch of neighbors will get together to hang out in a local Fremont bar if they have power.

    thanks for the diary!

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    by LokiMom on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 12:17:24 AM PDT

    •  I'm getting seasick (1+ / 0-)

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      just thinking about it.

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      by badger on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 12:28:45 AM PDT

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    •  I was wondering how all of you managed (2+ / 0-)

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      on the houseboats!  Glad you didn't lose power.

      We did- at 10:30 Thursday night, and we just got it back today around 4pm today. Almost 3 full days. Fortunately we left Friday and have been staying elsewhere where it's warm and lit and comfy.  Man it was cold!

      Badger is so right about needing light right away.  We had a crank flashlight set in a place for emergencies that was easy to find in the dark and that made a big diff.  Going to the bathroom in the freezing dark with a flashlight you have to keep winding is lots o fun!  Candles came in handy and the fireplace woulda been nice had we any wood. :(  But we got out.

      We have lots of trees down around the house but none inside the house, so that's a plus.  Tomorrow we return to address the melted, then probably refrozen, and surely stinky fridge and freezer.  icck. Hopefully that will be the worst of what we find.

      I'm printing out this diary badger.  Thanks so much!

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      by Susan Something on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 12:29:28 AM PDT

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    •  Discount version of a 3 dog night? ;-) (1+ / 0-)

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      Sounds like fun, actually.

      And was the Nickerson Saloon (I assume you meant this one) open during the storm?

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      by kovie on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 03:34:14 AM PDT

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  •  "trickle" night lights (3+ / 0-)

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    Good for telling you when the power kicks on.  Our house is populated with either LED or glow panel night lights.  We have enough that you can navigate anywhere in the house without turning lights on.  (From the sleep deprived era of having a newborn.)

    Also our two designated emergency supply closets have battery operated fluorescent lights mounted on the inside of the doors.  You can find the lights by touch and they illuminate the contents of the closet.

    Our two designated emergency flashlights have reflective tape on the handles to make them easier to find.

    After having my LED flashlights for a year, I now swear by them.  They are always there when I need them, they always work when I need them. The kids haven't broken a single one. I recommend multi LED flashlights that you can dial the number of active LEDs up and down on.  A single standard LED can draw power for up to 20 hours.  That's not bad for 3 AA batteries.

    My LED purchase for this year will be a solar panel powered outdoor light.  I'm looking at a 100+ LED lighting instrument at about $400.  At 3300 lumens, that should light up the night.  My cheesy little solar landscape lights won't win any style awards, but they mark the driveway in the dark.

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    by Fabian on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 01:07:59 AM PDT

    •  I've had a small LED bike headlight (3+ / 0-)

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      for a year and a half now and it's still running on the original batteries--and I use it all the time at home (and more often than I'd like on the bike). These things are amazing. Very bright for the size and power, and they last forever. Plus the bulbs will likely never have to be replaced. And I agree on the glow lights. Makes going to the bathroom in the middle of the night a lot easier on the eyes--and kneees and toes!

      Sic transit gloria mundi - ancient Roman proverb

      by kovie on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 03:37:44 AM PDT

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      •  Same experience with a camping headlamp. (0+ / 0-)

        I've never replaced the batteries, despite using it for hiking in the dark, etc.  3 AAA batteries.

        I like it so much I'm looking at picking up some 12V LED lighting that I can run off of a PV-charged battery.

        Since I haven't messed with PV before, I purchased a small (12W, 12V) panel and a charge controller (prevents overcharging the battery) to go with a sealed battery about the size of a brick.  I figured I'd hook all this stuff up and learn all about it, run a radio with it, etc., before getting more involved.  

        At that scale, it still ought to run some LED lighting for many hours.  We have 300+ days of sun per year, so hopefully most of the time it could recharge the battery every day.

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        by by foot on Mon Dec 25, 2006 at 02:33:46 PM PDT

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  •  heat (2+ / 0-)

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    In more southerly climes, heat can be a problem, admittedly not as bad as worrying about staying warm and keeping up with thawing pipes, but after our third year of dealing with two day to five day outages in an urban situation, we were seriously discussing the purchase of a generator to save the contents of our refrigerator and freezer. One doesn't expect that thunderstorms strong enough to rip up full grown oak trees by the roots would be a yearly event, but with the weather being what it is, who knows.

    •  An everyday solution. (0+ / 0-)

      Is to keep your refrigerator and freezer full.  Keep plastic bottles full of water in all sizes from 20 ounce soft drink bottles to half gallon jugs.

      Put these in your refrigerator and freezer to take up empty space.  You can take them out when you put food in and put them back in as space opens up.  Especially do this in the freezer - put the containers towards the back and keep your food up front.

      First benefit:  This makes your icebox more efficient.  Less air space means less warm air gets in when you open it up.

      Second benefit:  Your icebox will stay cooler longer in the event of an outage.

      Third benefit:  If you transfer perishables to a cooler, you will have ice and cold water to keep it cool.  (Try finding ice during a widespread outage. Ha.)

      Fourth benefit:  You can always drink the water or use it to cook or wash with.

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      by Fabian on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 05:32:26 AM PDT

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      •  cautionary notes (3+ / 0-)

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        If putting water bottles in the freezer: do not fill them to the top, they will burst and leak water all over the place.  Fill them to at most 3/4 full.  

        If you intend to use the water for a backup drinking water supply: empty the bottles, wash them thoroughly (careful, they can melt in the dishwasher), and refill with clean water, every month.  Otherwise you may be drinking water that has developed bacterial or mold growth over time in the fridge (though water kept as ice in the freezer will be safe).  Simplest thing is to have two sets of these bottles, so you can replace an existing set with a fresh set while washing out the existing set and letting it drip dry.

  •  My girlfriend still doesn't have power (1+ / 0-)

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