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Heads Up: Feingold On Charlie Rose Tonight

Fri Mar 17, 2006 at 12:12:08 PM PDT

Patron Saint Russ Feingold will be on the Charlie Rose show toinght. How will neo-con wannabe Rose treat him?
What questions will he ask and how will Feingold respond?

Filler:

FEINGOLD: Good morning.

I want to follow upon the events of this week concerning my proposal to censure the president with regard to this illegal wiretapping program through the NSA.

First thing I want to point out is why I chose this timing. I am a member of both the Intelligence and the Judiciary Committee.

I began thinking in December already about how, if in fact this was illegal, we would be able to have some accountability for the possibility that the president may have broken the law. But I thought it was important to wait until the process unfolded, and that's exactly what I did.

I attended the Judiciary Committee meetings and asked the
questions that I could of Mr. Gonzales and others, I attended the Intelligence Committee meetings -- hoping, of course, in both cases to learn a lot more about the program than we were told. But, in each case, I was carefully listening for whether there was any reasonable
legal argument to justify this program.

Last week, with the lack of prospect of senior administration officials from the Justice Department coming before the Judiciary Committee -- those who actually had questioned the program -- and with
the essential evisceration of the Intelligence Committee so that the majority of the committee won't ever be allowed, apparently, to even know the merits of the program, in my view not only had the process
been stopped, but there was no conversation anymore about one of the fundamental aspects of this, and that is that the president broke the law.

Instead, we have people saying, "Well, if this is illegal, we better make it legal." Well, to me that's an important conversation, but it begs the question, what about the fact that the president broke the law.

So that's why I chose this time.

And let me just read a quote from a few years ago from one of the House managers of the impeachment trial of President Clinton, when they came over to try that case. It's from Congressman James Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin, saying that "the rule of law should apply to everyone. And if the president does not suffer the legal and constitutional consequences of his actions, the impact of allowing the president to stand above the law will be felt for generations to
come."

Well, obviously, I'm not proposing impeachment, and I
specifically chose to propose a censure. But it is in that spirit, the spirit that the consequences of this will be felt for generations to come if we don't deal with it.

And let me remind everyone that this, of course, has to do
primarily with the violation of the law, but it's also in the context of how the president has handled this. On at least three different occasions, he publicly stated -- in Buffalo, New York; in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin; I believe, Columbus, Ohio -- that every time they've got a warrant, every time they want to do wiretapping, they got a warrant.
So he was misleading the American people.

And then when the program was revealed, instead of saying, "Well, wait a minute, I better check and see if this was legal," he came out aggressively and asserted a doctrine of executive power that is so extreme that it essentially has no end.

At the Judiciary Committee hearing that I attended, with seven constitutional scholars, I asked those who believed in this inherent power whether this inherent power would extend to assassinating American citizens, and none of them could give me a colorable or credible answer that it would not.

That's a dangerous doctrine. And that is the context that makes me think that censure is an appropriate -- in fact, measured -- response to this kind of an attempt at executive power.

Finally, all you have to do is look at the news today -- not just this area. The president is releasing today another national security plan. I have not had a chance to read it, but I'm pretty confident and I'm told that it includes an expanded vision, again, of the ability to attack pre-emptively outside of what many people such as
Senator Kennedy and Senator Byrd have argued is outside of the Constitution.

What we are seeing here is part of a pattern -- an administration that is grabbing for all the executive power it can at a time when this nation is certainly under stress and at war.

Those are the moments when the Congress has to assert the rule of law. That is the moment when you have to do something more dramatic, such as a censure resolution.

It is time for the president to return to the law. That is what I am trying to accomplish here.

And so as this week has unfolded -- although obviously I am
sincere in wanting to pass this resolution -- my objective has already been achieved. And that is: I wanted the conversation to include, again, the belief of most people, most experts and even some Republican senators and congressman, that the president did, in fact, violate the law and there has to be something other than talk about
passing a law to make it legal.

Finally, we will be going home after the vote-o-rama for recess. I would urge my colleagues to go back and listen to the people on this. There's an assumption here in Washington that everybody thinks that maybe this isn't something people are interested in, that somehow
this has to do with political gamesmanship for either party.

The fact is there's enormous concern about this. The reaction I've gotten from my own state, the massive response on the Internet, indicates that people do want some accountability on this issue and believe it's the right thing.

And I think, as members hear that from their constituents, that they may see that this is not a radical step, but a step that is actually measured and appropriate in light of what's happened.

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  •  Happy Saint Pattyâ€<sup>TM</sup>s Day (5+ / 0-)

    Yeah OK so the opener from Feingold’s March 6 press conference I used was just filler so I could post this heads up on a diary. Buy me a beer.

    At least you now know he is on tonight. So crank up the Tivo or VCR and record it so when you get home too late tonight after getting bent on green beer you can watch it tomorrow.

    "You Have The Power!" - Howard Dean

    by talex on Fri Mar 17, 2006 at 12:09:19 PM PDT

  •  Neo-con wannabe? (0+ / 0-)

    Really? I haven't watched him that much, but he sure didn't seem to be a neo-con wannabe when he was interviewing the writer/director of Syrianna.

    Thanks for the heads up.

    "Why can't you and the idea of separation of powers just hug it out, bitch?" Wonkette

    by Hollywood Liberal on Fri Mar 17, 2006 at 12:09:35 PM PDT

  •  Indulge me (0+ / 0-)

    I had a dream a few weeks ago, where I was on Charlie Rose - and I haven't watched him in years.  In the dream, he kept rocking back and forth, in and out, toward me/away from me, like someone with autism.  In the dream I remember thinking "what an idiot!".

    In his worst moments he is a babbling idiot, but he does manage to book some interesting guests, while letting them say all kinds of stuff unchallenged.  Amy Goodman he's not.

    Thanks for the heads up.  Hope Feingold can get some mileage out of this.  Rose has kind of a blog here where you can both find out what's coming up, and also post your opinions/get into fights with other commenters.

    •  Rose Is Jekyll and Hyde (2+ / 0-)

      Recommended by:
      hazey, alyosha

      You never know what you are going to get. Over all though he seems more engaged when his political guests are neo-cons like Richard Pearl. He just loves that guy. Scary huh?

      As for the Charlie Rose blog - been there done that. It used to be a good place to argue points with wingers but has unfortunately been taken over by a bunch of nut cases. I bailed. Life's to short to spend with people who don't take their meds.

      "You Have The Power!" - Howard Dean

      by talex on Fri Mar 17, 2006 at 12:29:00 PM PDT

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  •  Charlie Rose is (0+ / 0-)

    an absolutely amazing guy.

    I've never seen anyone who can speak so well on so many different topics, from ancient architecture to Phish to politics and history.

    BUT, he doesn't actually seem to stand for anything.

    I don't know that he's a neo-con, but I sure as hell don't see that he's a progressive or liberal or conservative or anything else for that matter.

    And that's why I've stopped watching him...

    "War does not determine who is right - only who is left." - Bertrand Russell

    by Karmafish on Fri Mar 17, 2006 at 01:23:52 PM PDT

  •  hmmm... (0+ / 0-)

    ...i don't watch charlie rose on a regular basis but i admire him greatly because he's intelligent and asks his guests fascinating questions. i don't really understand why you say he's a neo-con wannabe.

    in any case, i'll be missing the show coz i'm gonna be out drinking green scotch.

    The radical invents views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them. - Mark Twain

    by FemiNazi on Fri Mar 17, 2006 at 01:44:57 PM PDT

    •  I've been watching (0+ / 0-)

      Charlie Rose for years now. I must admit that he does 'try' to stay neutral. And at times does a damned good job of it. But after getting to know someone for a while most of us can sniff out for ourselves who a person really is. Like I said upthread I think Charlie's true colors come out when he has neo-cons on like Richard Pearl and others. He is far more engaged in what they have to say, he gives them far more latitude in expressing their opinions, and he asks more softball questions of them. He also was very supportive in his demeanor with the Iraq war and of Bush's evolving justifications of the reason for it.

      So I am not calling him a neo-con and maybe a neo-con wannabe is a bit of a stretch, although I am comfortable with that term. Perhaps a neo-con sympathizer would be a better term. Just my opinion.

      And yes I agree he is a brilliant person and good at what he does. I can't think of many people if any who could take his place conducting a program that covers such diverse topics. That is why I continue to watch him.

      "You Have The Power!" - Howard Dean

      by talex on Fri Mar 17, 2006 at 02:43:54 PM PDT

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  •  Brazile on Feingold (0+ / 0-)

    http://www.rollcall.com/...

    *Don’t Ignore the Feingold Resolution. Embrace It*
    By Donna Brazile
    Roll Call Contributing Writer
    March 14, 2006

    The progressive blogosphere is on fire right now. Web loggers are pumped up about the effort by Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis.) to censure President Bush for breaking the law on domestic surveillance and taking matters into his own hands.

  •  Thanks for the heads up. (0+ / 0-)

    And thanks for posting that statement from Russ.  That's a great statement; even if it is a week old and even if I am probably the only one around here who hadn't seen it yet. :)

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