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Wed May 10, 2006 at 06:49:12 AM PDT

Alphonso Jackson, secretary of the Department of Housing and Urban Development, revealed in an April 28th speech that he believed it was logical to deny federal contracts to contractors who did not support the President.  Now that his outrageous speech has sparked calls for an investigation, HUD officials are spinning like crazy to save Jackson's job. Think Progress has the official response:

Dustee Tucker, a spokeswoman for Jackson, told the Dallas Business Journal Tuesday that Jackson's comments at his April 28 speech were purely "anecdotal."

"He was merely trying to explain to the audience how people in D.C., will say critical things about the secretary, will unfairly characterize the president and then turn around and ask you for money," Tucker said. "He did not actually meet with someone and turn down a contract. He's not part of the contracting process."

Oh, ok. So it was just an fake story about illegal conduct, nevermind that he did not tell the audience that he wasn't serious.  That makes it all better, right? But if it was some wacky parable pulled out of thin air, how to explain away the specifics in HUD's initial reaction to the story?

"On May 3, Tucker told the Business Journal that the contract Jackson was referring to in Dallas was `an advertising contract with a minority publication,' though she could not provide the contract's value."

So not only was Jackson lying to the audience, but Tucker was in on the fairytale as well?

Jackson wants us to believe his confession was concocted, but  denying federal contracts based on support of the President doesn't seem that out of character for him. After all, Jackson is a Bush Pioneer. He is a man who had no problem aggressively campaigning for the President while on the taxpayer dime.

And maybe I would be able to accept HUD's illogical denial of the story if the agency had not lied to protect Jackson in the past. In 2002, HUD employee Richard W. Mallory was fired by Jackson for trying to expose the misuse of $1.8 million of federal funds by the San Fransico Housing Authority.  Mallory, by the way, replaced another fired whistleblower.  

When Mallory was fired for exposing the corruption, he wrote a series of letters to Alberto Gonzales and the secretary of HUD. He detailed how Jackson had orchestrated the cover-up and told him to not to makes waves, since the then-mayor of San Francisco (Willie Brown) was Jackson's friend.

When the press filed FOIA requests to obtain those letters, HUD denied they existed. That is, until they were leaked to the press. HUD, by the way, never launched an investigation into the corruption Mallory had detailed.

So color me skeptical now of HUD's claim that Jackson just made up the elaborate story. The agency has a history of shielding Jackson and of misrepresenting information. And besides, its "anecdote" explanation just plain doesn't make sense.

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  •  Narrowing the field... (5+ / 0-)

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    "On May 3, Tucker told the Business Journal that the contract Jackson was referring to in Dallas was `an advertising contract with a minority publication,' though she could not provide the contract's value."

    That narrows it down quite a bit.

    And if Jackson's recounting of the guy's speech style is accurate, my guess is that he worked for a black publication.

    I'm thinking Jet or Essence, for starters.

    Time to ask them to come forward!

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    by Phoenix Woman on Wed May 10, 2006 at 06:48:41 AM PDT

    •  I KNEW this would happen (4+ / 0-)

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      From the moment the Secretary opened his felonious little mouth.   I knew that by today the scambly HUD sokespeople would be all over the new talking about how he "misspoke" and how the story was "illustrative" not factual.  But the damage is done, either:

      a) the Secretary's a bald faced liar, and what could have been to motivation make something like that up except to intimidate the listeners into Silence on any disapproval they might have of Bush?

      or

      b) The Secretary just publicly admitted to a felony.  

      Either way it's not good for him.

      Knowledge is power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil

      by Magorn on Wed May 10, 2006 at 08:24:51 AM PDT

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      •  New Rules (3+ / 0-)

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        Oh, OK...so the new government guidelines allow all employees to make up stories to make their points...yea that’s gonna be real effective. Apparently the second rule is you don’t have to admit it is a made up story until someone quotes you...only then do you have to say...”woops, not a real event”.

        I’m waiting for the third new rule...the one that says if you are the President you accept the first and second rules as legitimate by refusing to fire Jackson. I love watching us go from cronyism to corruption to anarchy...I’m preparing my own fake stories because I would hate to be left out of the fun.

        more observations here:

        www.thoughttheater.com

      •  'How The Story Was Illustrative Not Factual' (5+ / 0-)

        The spokesperson was correct.  The Story was and is illustrative.  Jackson was speaking before a minority group interested in obtaining contracts from HUD.

        Bottom line, what Jackson was telling his audience was If you want any contract from HUD you better be a Republican (implied also DONATE REPUG).

        So whether the story was factual or not it illustrates that Jackson was demanding loyalty to the Republican Party as a prerequisite for obtaining a contract. Either way, it seems either illegal or at least unethical.

        No courage = No $$$ for Dems

        by MO Blue on Wed May 10, 2006 at 09:25:14 AM PDT

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        •  Bingo (3+ / 0-)

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          Though as a fan of Oldies it's nice to see that somebody remembers the words to "To the victor goes the Spoils and " You won't get paid until you pay Boss Tweed"

          Knowledge is power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil

          by Magorn on Wed May 10, 2006 at 09:28:21 AM PDT

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        •  You missed the real point (2+ / 0-)

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          "He didn’t get the contract," Jackson continued. "Why should I reward someone who doesn’t like the president, so they can use funds to try to campaign against the president? Logic says they don’t get the contract. That’s the way I believe."

          Hell HE SAID as much.  There is not, "this was just a story, he didn't really mean it"  or "it was just an anctedotde"  He freaking SAID it folks.  It's what he BELIEVES.  Just like Bush always joking about being a dictator.  You don't make that joke that many times unless you actually freaking believe it.

          WWJD - for a Klondike bar. Sign on a graduate student's door.

          by Hard to Port on Wed May 10, 2006 at 09:32:12 AM PDT

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          •  Didn't Miss The Real Point At All (6+ / 0-)

            Before the audience Jackson said this

            He didn’t get the contract," Jackson continued. "Why should I reward someone who doesn’t like the president, so they can use funds to try to campaign against the president? Logic says they don’t get the contract. That’s the way I believe."

            NOW his spokesperson is claiming his statement was Not Factual, in fact she did say it antidotal.

            My point was and is that the intent was the same whether the story was fact or whether he just made it up. His intent was to make sure his audience knew that Loyalty to the Republican Party was necessary to obtain a contract from HUD>

            No courage = No $$$ for Dems

            by MO Blue on Wed May 10, 2006 at 09:44:43 AM PDT

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            •  the spokesperson changed her story (3+ / 0-)

              Read Georgia's article again.  On May 3, the spokesperson said that Jackson was referring to an actual contract for handling advertising in minority publications.  Today she is saying that the story was just a story and there was no contractor.

              Also check out this point from a Talking Points Memo reader.  Ordinarily people don't volunteer to the HUD secretary that they don't support the president, especially if they want a contract.  But what if Jackson had just hit the guy up for a campaign contribution?  After all, Jackson was a "Pioneer", a fundraiser for Bush, before he got the HUD job.

  •  Dustee Tucker, Dusty Foggo...what's up with (2+ / 0-)

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    these right wing names?

  •  SF mayor in question was Willie Brown (4+ / 0-)

    not current mayor Gavin Newsom.
    Brown's regime was a case study in cronyism. I think Abramoff could even be schooled by Slick Willie.

    •  I Was Just About to Ask That (0+ / 0-)

      Thanks for the clarification.


      The Earth's 23.44 degree axial tilt in relation to its orbital
      plane is the REASON FOR THE SEASON.

      by karateexplosions on Wed May 10, 2006 at 06:49:57 AM PDT

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    •  yeah, it was back (0+ / 0-)

      when Brown was in.

      •  g10, ready to answer a nice, long question... (0+ / 0-)

        ...on the effect of the merger of law and equity on the availability of damages for causes of action that were previously purely equitable?

        "There is nothing false about hope." -- Barack Obama

        by DC Pol Sci on Wed May 10, 2006 at 07:27:13 AM PDT

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        •  oh. my. god. (5+ / 0-)

          pleeeease don't freak me out!  hehe, I'm off to my exam in a bit, and you just totally made me blank out.

          /sigh

          graduation...it's SO close, yet sooooo far away.

          •  As a former Law Student myself (1+ / 0-)

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            (in Chicago too, but at CK) Let me pass on this  important bit of exam wisdom :

            the "C" answer is :"this is what the law is"

            the B answer is:"this is what the law is and here is why, although you could also add this if you assume x"

            The A answer is " This is what the law is, but this is what it should be in  this situation because"

            In other words YES the facts are important, but leave  memorizing and regurgitating case names to the annoying gunners in the front row.   Concentrate instead on tight reasoning and good arguments and  elegant (in the logic sense)  writing.  Having been a fan of your blogging for the last year and a half, I's say in that regard you have absolutely nothing to fear.

            Knowledge is power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil

            by Magorn on Wed May 10, 2006 at 08:20:13 AM PDT

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            •  My experience a bit different... (1+ / 0-)

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              ...and I'm at Georgetown.  An answer that covers all the bases and analyzes them properly in terms of what the law is (i.e., deals with all of the forks) is an A answer.

              An answer that blathers along with policy arguments about what the law should be, unless the question calls for it, will miss some of what the law is because you won't have time to write what the law is.

              Our professors give open book exams and then put us under incredible time pressure.  The number of rules you are able to correctly apply in the time given seems to be how they differentiate between A, A-, B+, B, and B- (the curve allots only 5 percent to grades of C and below).

              "There is nothing false about hope." -- Barack Obama

              by DC Pol Sci on Thu May 11, 2006 at 02:51:02 AM PDT

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    •  ok, I added Brown's name in (3+ / 0-)

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      just to make it clear.

    •  UGH (1+ / 0-)

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      Another reason to be pissed at/detest Brown... yes, the cronyism was RIFE and luckily the voters saw this on the local level and kicked the bum out. Now we find out he was in tight with Jackson...

      The kicker? Art Torres hand-picked Willie Brown to speak in his stead at the recent Dem Convention in Sacramento.

      It's no wonder our voter turnout is in the 30% range in this country. Add in the fact that voter rolls are where they get jury duty names from, and it's a wonder it's not 2% or less.

  •  Anecdote: n, English (1+ / 0-)

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    Main Entry: an·ec·dote
    Pronunciation: 'a-nik-"dOt
    Function: noun
    Inflected Form(s): plural anecdotes also an·ec·dota /"a-nik-'dO-t&/
    Etymology: French, from Greek anekdota unpublished items, from neuter plural of anekdotos unpublished, from a- + ekdidonai to publish, from ex out + didonai to give -- more at EX-, DATE
    : a usually short narrative of an interesting, amusing, or biographical incident

    What the hell?  Aren't the spinmeisters supposed to save their targets by being on the correct side of a language hair split?

    If government is small enough to drown in a bathtub, then it's too small to clean up the Gulf.

    by electricgrendel on Wed May 10, 2006 at 06:50:47 AM PDT

  •  I very rarely have violent thoughts (0+ / 0-)

    but I am finding it hard to suppress them about Jackson. I'm glad I don't live in D.C. because I would have a really difficult time to suppress the urge to punch this asshole in the face.

    (-8.00, -7.18) I have no sense of humor.

    by Arken on Wed May 10, 2006 at 06:54:16 AM PDT

  •  Brings to mind 3 words: WIN BACK CONGRESS (4+ / 0-)

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    We need to put this government back into the hands of ALL the people so our tax dollars can be spent on ALL the people of the U.S. rather than merely those with political connections.

  •  Be fair! (3+ / 0-)

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    color me skeptical now of HUD's claim that Jackson just made the elaborate story  up.

    These guys are always making up elaborate stories!  See: Iraq, Gitmo, Social Security...

  •  Did Jackson push the contractor to donate to GOP? (13+ / 0-)

    Josh Marshall wonders what could have made the contractor volunteer for no apparent reason that he didn't like Bush.

    As he says, the only way this makes any sense is if the contractor was responding to Jackson's effort to shake him down for the Republican Party.

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    by Phoenix Woman on Wed May 10, 2006 at 06:59:36 AM PDT

    •  Brief analysis of events, and attempt at timeline (10+ / 0-)

      The Story So Far:

      The HUD scandal involving HUD chief Alphonso Jackson's boasting of turning down a prospective HUD contractor because the guy didn't like Bush has really grown legs.

      Lautenberg and Lieberman are among the growing number of Democratic lawmakers calling  for an investigation into Jackson's behavior -- or his resignation.

      So what do HUD's spinmeisters do?  They try to tell the Dallas Business Journal (the place where Jackson's comments first came to light) that it's okay -- their boss just lied, is all:

      Dustee Tucker, a spokeswoman for Jackson, told the Dallas Business Journal Tuesday that Jackson's comments at his April 28 speech were purely "anecdotal."

      "He was merely trying to explain to the audience how people in D.C., will say critical things about the secretary, will unfairly characterize the president and then turn around and ask you for money," Tucker said. "He did not actually meet with someone and turn down a contract. He's not part of the contracting process."

      Let's not even go into how ineffably stupid this sounds, to defend against charges of malfeasance by copping to lying instead.

      The very next paragraph of the Dallas Business Journal article undermines their entire spin effort:

      (On May 3, Tucker told the Business Journal that the contract Jackson was referring to in Dallas was "an advertising contract with a minority publication," though she could not provide the contract's value.)

      So, on May 3, Dustee Tucker not only confirms the incident happened, but goes on to provide additional details about the contractor that Jackson illegally screwed.

      But once she and her boss are informed that what he did was illegal, suddenly she's saying the incident never actually happened?  Hello?!?!  

      And it gets even better.

      See, one of Josh Marshall's readers brought up this point:  There only one reason that the contractor would have bothered mentioning his dislike of Bush to Jackson -- and that would be because Jackson had tried to shake down the guy for contributions to the Republican Party.  

      Jackson had better hope like hell that the guy he stiffed doesn't step forward.

      By the way:  Jackson was confirmed as HUD Secretary on March 31, 2004.  His boasts about denying the contract were made on April 28, 2006.  

      It might be useful to go to the library and comb through the issues of various black magazines (like Jet, Ebony or Essence) during that time period to see if there's a sudden drop-off in ads for HUD.

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      by Phoenix Woman on Wed May 10, 2006 at 07:34:54 AM PDT

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      •  Why would Jackson be telling this story, (7+ / 0-)

        whether it's true or not?  He could just be so full of himself he wants to show off his power, but more likely he was trying to soften his audience up before he shook them down for contributions.  

        To me, this sounds like extortion of his audience in Dallas.  He's saying, in effect, "You want HUD contracts?  You'd better like George W. Bush, and what better way to show that than a contribution?"

        Even if the story about the unnamed prospective contractor is pure fiction, telling the story can still be an element of extortion, can't it?

        All you legal types, when you've finished your finals, please tell me if this is right.  

        We're all pretty strange one way or another; some of us just hide it better. "Normal" is a dryer setting.

        by david78209 on Wed May 10, 2006 at 08:12:10 AM PDT

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    •  And even if you assume (6+ / 0-)

      That the Secretary really DID make the story up.  You then have to ask what possible reason he would have for doing so OTHER than to intimidate the listeners and/or Shake them down for GOP money (as a way of demonstrating thay they, unlike the luckless contractor just LOVE the president)

      Knowledge is power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil

      by Magorn on Wed May 10, 2006 at 08:28:09 AM PDT

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    •  Why indeed (2+ / 0-)

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      Josh Marshall is right - there is no other rational explanation but to tie this to one or more shakedowns.  The event, if it happened, must have been in response to a demand for money.  Telling the tale is a demand for money.  The alternative explanations are simply claims of temporary insanity.  

  •  Jackson seems to love his Cabinet Post (11+ / 0-)

    I wrote yesterday but begs repeating.

    At the Kennedy Center Honors, I witnessed celebrities, national politicians, even Donald Rumsfeld waiting their turn in a lengthy line of cars to get into the building.

    I also witnessed Alphonso Jackson's arrival - two black Chevy Suburbans (lights and sirens on) roll around the line of cars right to the front of the building (and cutting off the traffic flow).  A 2-3 man security detail exists first, motioning all others to 'stand back.'  And then Jackson exits the second car.

    It was quite a show.  

  •  Jackson Knows How He Got His Job (7+ / 0-)

    It appears that Jackson knows that his politcal payments as a Bush pioneer was instrumental in his appointment of his position regardless of his relative qualifications. Why not link contracts to political support as well?

    He is right about one thing, it is logically consistent.  He apparently also forgot that it is morally wrong and illegal.

    This is an excellent illustration of the Bush administration's culture of corruption.  They take problematic practices such as rewarding government positions only to political supporters, and then take the next "logical" step.

    Bush apologists continue to say everyone does it.  There is a kernal of truth, since partisan politics play a role in the selection of just about every Presidential administration.  However, rather than seek to minimize the damage from such practices the Bush administration builds on them and extends them.

    Ironic that Bush ran in 2000 on a platform of bipartisanship and less partisanship in government, but consistently has moved in the opposite direction again and again, with his apologists saying everybody does it.

  •  I understand working for the President (4+ / 0-)

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    But don't these people have any shame?

    How can they be so disgustingly partisan for a MAN when it does such damage to the country?

    Why doesn't the corruption bother them?

    • Pay someone to pimp for the Administration position? Of course he'll do it - anything for money.
    • Cover for a Cabinet Secretary? Sure, anything for George Bush's benefit.
    • Joke about corruption like it's not really an important issue? Well, it's not important to the 'important' people!

    I gotta go shower - I feel dirty.

    ...but not your own facts.

    by slouise217 on Wed May 10, 2006 at 07:05:31 AM PDT

  •  Even if it's a story it stinks (9+ / 0-)

    I agree that there is probably truth to this, and it is fun to watch these guys spin.

    But I don't get HUD's idea that if this is just a story then its okay.

    Jackson is speaking in public, to an audience, and telling them that he cancelled a contract based on a company's refusal to support bush.

    And then the story was disseminated to a wider business audience via the news account.

    Whether the story was true or not, the people in the audience heard the message: support bush to get contracts.  

    That is a gross misuse of political power.  

    •  It's not their money (7+ / 0-)

      I sure does stink.  And then they try to justify it like it's Bush's money that these ungrateful people are begging (bidding goods/services) for.

      It's our money and we expect the govt to spend it wisely, not as a reward for some crappy president's followers.

      This guy needs to go.  In fact, they all need to go.  Enough feeding at the public's expense you gold diggers.

      Dear Lord, please save me from your followers

      by mz on Wed May 10, 2006 at 07:51:12 AM PDT

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    •  I agree this is plausible (5+ / 0-)

      The incident may never have happened, but the point of his story was:  "support (i.e. give money to) the President, and you'll keep/get your contract."

      Is there any quarter of this administration that is not riddled with corruption?  Really, I've always had an honest disagreement with Republicans on policy, but I never believed they were any more corrupt than other politicians.  Until this awful adminsitration came along.

      It's machine politics, pure and simple, on a scale we have not seen since the Grant administration.

      "To be afraid is to behave as if the truth were not true." -- Bayard Rustin

      by Joelarama on Wed May 10, 2006 at 07:57:31 AM PDT

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    •  Exactly Look at (1+ / 0-)

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      Their "Explanation" of what the Secretary was supposedly trying to do with this "Anecdote":

      "He was merely trying to explain to the audience how people in D.C., will say critical things about the secretary, will unfairly characterize the president and then turn around and ask you for money," Tucker said. "He did not actually meet with someone and turn down a contract. He's not part of the contracting process."

      Well imagine THAT! can you Imagine the NERVE of some people having a critical poltical opinion about the current occupant of the White house  and then having the sheer audacity to then request to do business with the Federal Government?

      It's official folks, Bush's Policy of hiring only the supremely Loyal has paid off.  To his cabinet secretaries and appointees Bush has become a godhead.  They are now apparently incapable of Distinguishing between President Bush the man and the Federal Goverment they have sworn to serve on behalf of us the American people.

      Knowledge is power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil

      by Magorn on Wed May 10, 2006 at 08:36:37 AM PDT

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  •  Dustee - HUD Expert by day, cocktails by night (8+ / 0-)

    Ahh, the life of (nearly every) Bush appointee...

    (caption - Dustee (left) and Claudia Kreisle (right) at the Bachelors and Spinsters Ball, "a spring right of passage for elite singles")

    Courtsesy of Washington Life - Magazine May 03 - Bachelors/Spinsters Ball

    Have a browse through back issues of Washington life - it's very telling about life of today's crop of political appointees.

  •  So many scandals... so little time... (6+ / 0-)

    Dudehisattva...

    "Generosity, Ethics, Patience, Effort, Concentration, and Wisdom"

    by Dood Abides on Wed May 10, 2006 at 07:09:21 AM PDT

  •  Jackson announced that this is HUD policy (10+ / 0-)

    no funds if you don't support President Bush.

    Regardless of whether or not what he said was an anecdote or true - he said it as a wanton brag that HE was in control and unless you support Bush he will make sure you don't get a contract with HUD.

    Has he disavowed that this is HUD's policy (not that that would really make any difference)?

    My heroes have the heart to live the life I want to live.

    by JLFinch on Wed May 10, 2006 at 07:13:42 AM PDT

    •  he said it's 'his policy' (6+ / 0-)

      And she says he has nothing to do with contracts.

      Yes, and George Steinbrenner has nothing to do with hiring.

      Christ, I'm tired of my intelligence being insulted day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day.....


      'The great religions are the ships. The poets are the lifeboats. Every sane person I know has jumped overboard.' - Hafiz

      by AlyoshaKaramazov on Wed May 10, 2006 at 08:16:54 AM PDT

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    •  Monty Python is on this (1+ / 0-)

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      Has he disavowed that this is HUD's policy (not that that would really make any difference)? - JLFinch

      Oh gosh, JLFinch, of COURSE it's not policy, no no nooooooo; yes. (*wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more, a nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat, he said knowingly ...)

      and a "Ta, mate" to Eric Idle

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      by Monique Radevu on Wed May 10, 2006 at 12:27:47 PM PDT

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  •  My Defense of the Honorable Alphonso Jackson (1+ / 0-)

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    Read it here.

  •  Report (2+ / 0-)

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    While listening to KGO AM 810 in San Francisco about yesterdays afternoon report on the Jackson quote about not giving contracts to non-bush supporters, was interesting and a good jab at the creepy HUD leader.  It was the typical short news shots that are done at the half hour.  What was cool is that the reporter quoted the not giving contracts statement and then added that when HUD was contacted the following statement was issued “Alphonso Jackson did make the statement, but did not mean it”.

    Sometime I wonder, other times I know.  

    It takes a bucket of blood for a barrel of oil.

    by Encriptical Envelopments on Wed May 10, 2006 at 07:18:07 AM PDT

  •  simple solution (4+ / 0-)

    Find out WHO the contract was for.  Get them to talk.  After all, they have nothing to lose.

    Machiavelli had some choice words about the foolish rulers who leave their enemies with nothing to lose.

    Anyway, if the story is true, we should be able to find out who it was.

    I trust Obama's judgment more than I trust my own. Why are YOU telling him what to do?

    by Leggy Starlitz on Wed May 10, 2006 at 07:25:51 AM PDT

  •  I've been in government contracting my entire (5+ / 0-)

    adult life.  The idea that somehow being "mean" to the president disqualifies a person from a grant or contract is ridiculous.  This money is not the president's.  It is the people's, and the distribution of the money is supposed to be entirely independent of the political process.

    •  I've been in contracting myself for a while and I (3+ / 0-)

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      have never been asked my political affiliations. My upper managment is more republican centered, but not necessarly for the president. But to even say that political leanings would influence who gets contracts is vile to me. I've never seen it on any grant or contracting bid. (snark (maybe!)) It goes to the lowest bidder regardles of ideals, clear planning, or actual exhibited ability. (/snark)

  •  My friend works for a defense contractor... (9+ / 0-)

    ... here in D.C., and he was working with some government guys on funding a project in Murtha's district. The day after Murtha called for a complete withdrawal, he came into work and called his government guy to continue work on the project and the government guy said "don't even bother." When he asked why, he said "the project has been defunded."

    Now, my friend is a socially conservative Republican and voted for Bush twice, but even he was shocked at the expediency of Bush's revenge. I couldn't convince him to come over to the light side, but he did say he couldn't believe it happened and would sit out the next election in disgust.

    •  If I were not a better person... (1+ / 0-)

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      My response would be 'Fuck him.  He got what he deserves'.  If I were not a better person.

      Irony: Apparently, the teabaggers would have apologized to the East India Trading Company for dumping their tea into the Boston Harbor.

      by RichM on Wed May 10, 2006 at 07:48:25 AM PDT

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    •  he can't sit out forevahhh ... (0+ / 0-)

      he's gonna miss that cheese. so be a pal, gird yourself with tips from ABA and crowdog, and remind him.

      Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

      by MarketTrustee on Wed May 10, 2006 at 08:05:47 AM PDT

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  •  HUD (1+ / 0-)

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    is corrupt.  Anyone that's seen 4th season of the Sopranos knows this....

    Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

    by topicalstorm on Wed May 10, 2006 at 07:32:59 AM PDT

  •  I said yesterday 'Where is this guy?' (2+ / 0-)

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    thinking he would come forward, but I guess he can't because he is a figment of Jackson's imagination.  

    Oh boy, now that is a rare event, a Bush adminstration official lying to the public.  

    Is Jackson a great liar, or is he the greatest liar?

    •  You know (1+ / 0-)

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      about this issue because you are among the enlightened New Media.

      This hasn't surfaced in the Old Media yet (except for the dallas story).

      Things take time to percolate to the top.

      Somebody(ies) will eventually identify themselfes in this issue.  The contractor may not know or fully understand why his/her contract was pulled.

      Notice: This Comment © 2010 ROGNM

      by ROGNM on Wed May 10, 2006 at 07:41:08 AM PDT

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  •  Calm down, calm down... (7+ / 0-)

    I'm sure that somewhere there's a "Signing Statement" that's makes anything anyone of Bush's appointees does legal.

    So, you see... it's all good.

    "I was so easy to defeat, I was so easy to control, I didn't even know there was a war." -9.75, -8.41

    by RonV on Wed May 10, 2006 at 07:35:43 AM PDT

    •  Well, If It Isn't Legal Now (0+ / 0-)

      the President will simply ask the Congress to make it retroactively legal.  Like the NSA wiretaps.

      This President and his people sure have a hard time staying in the present moment, don't they?

      Everything is pre-emptive this, retroactively that, and while President Bush doesn't give a darn about history (because we'll all be dead), all that Cheney, Rummy, and Condi can talk about these days is how well history will view the catastrophic events of the last six years.

  •  How stupid (2+ / 0-)

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    do they think we are?

    "He didn't mean it."  <---is that all they got?</p>

  •  I think (0+ / 0-)

    it may not be a good idea to seem like we are targeting black republicans. I know, I know...but it just leaves a bad taste in your mouth

    •  They Brought it on Themselves (3+ / 0-)

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      Black Rethugs who blindly support Bush and use their jobs to punish or extract revenge from anyone who's critical of Bush.

      Not only do they tote Bush's water, if he told them to burn Blacks at the stake to demonstrate their loyalty, they would do so.

      And yes, I'm African-American, and thoroughly disgusted with Black Rethugs who have no sense of morality, decency or honor.  They do not represent African-Americans nationwide, and personally, they are in line for Lawn Jockey Awards and industrial strength cans of whip-ass for touting this schtick and doing it for their own benefit, while to the detriment of everyone else.

      Calling them "Uncle Tom's" demeans the character in Harriet Beecher Stowe's book.  The slave, Tom, took and subjected himself to his masters with an idea that if he took the brunt of bad treatment, the other slaves could escape to freedom.

      Martin Luther King, Jr., gave his life so these thugs could enjoy up close what their parents looked at from a distance.

      Fire his ass.  He disrespects himself and the ethnic group with his actions and blind loyalty to the Boy Dictator.

      Yeah, I said it.

      "Washington, DC: Where Corrupt Officials are discovered daily."

      by The Truth on Wed May 10, 2006 at 08:08:50 AM PDT

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    •  We don't need to (0+ / 0-)

      target anyone...they're making themselves targets by their own willing crimes and corruption.

      Politics is like sports, it doesn't build character it reveals character.

      by Sassy on Wed May 10, 2006 at 08:18:42 AM PDT

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    •  What?? (2+ / 0-)

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      Until this minute I had NO idea what the color of this man was, nor do I care.

      Stupid is as stupid does... even if this guy were blue with furry antennas, he still did something illegal, immoral and unAmerican and I want his blue furry ass to fry, whatever the result may taste like.

      Of course, the ideal situation is for members of the Congressional Black Caucus to get involved here so it DOESN'T become a race issue. 'Cause you know Turdblossom and sons will turn it into one.

    •  Nonsense (1+ / 0-)

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      We should give this corrupt asshole a pass because he's black?  How good does that "seem"?

      Corrupt is corrupt.

      "With all this manure around, there has to be a pony somewhere!" - Count Piotr Vorkosigan

      by jrooth on Wed May 10, 2006 at 09:16:45 AM PDT

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    •  how totally un-PC of us - not (1+ / 0-)

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      .. give me a break.

      This is not an issue of race, at all. Bringing race into this is wrong.

      Period.

  •  Spoils to the Loyals (1+ / 0-)

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    Whether it actually happened or he made it up, the point is he thinks this is the way it should work. Otherwise, why make up a parable?

    Dustee herself explains it like this:

    "Jackson used the ''hypothetical'' story to describe the ruthless politics of Washington. She said Jackson was trying to convey that Washington is a place where political opponents, rather than stabbing you in the back, ''will stab you in the chest.''

    http://www.suntimes.com/...

    His point was that the way government works is very simple: spoils to the loyals.

  •  Loyalty to Bush (0+ / 0-)

    Is the primary criterion whereby these cabinet members & high-ups in the various executive departments got their appointments.  Therefore, the hijinks in HUD, and also these similar abuses in the Agriculture department should come as no surprise to anyone.

    Greg Shenaut

  •  Verification (0+ / 0-)

    If this story is true, contrary to what Alphonso is saying, can the person he doesn't name in the story come forward and corroborate the story?  I hope some reporter is intent on tracking this person down.  Or can some net legwork maybe do it?

    •  His career may well be on the line (1+ / 0-)

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      While it would be nice if everyone were brave and honest in a situation like this, I would not take the failure to find confirmation to indicate the event did not happen.  The "salesman" in question may well be facing a career ending choice.  If he/she provides public testimony, he/she gets the dubious protection afforded whistleblowers (at best).  That doesn't get him/her the next sale, and his/her present boss surely knows that.  Most people are not in a position where such a decision can be made without realistic fear of the consequences.

  •  Like, why say anything? (4+ / 0-)

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    The criticism/explanation offered by Jackson/Tucker is typically Republican/Bush Administration (I had to get in another slash.

    This is OUR Government.  People have every right to criticize the President, then still ask for Money.  Our President and our Congress are running our Government poorly.  

    I missed the part in civics class where it said, "Everyone who does business with the United States Government must agree with current policy."

  •  Jackson is also a man with no soul (4+ / 0-)

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    Here is what he said while head of the Dallas Housing Authority.

    On his return as Dallas housing president in 1989, he quickly set to work with get-tough policies.
    "In the first 16 months, I evicted 700 people," said Jackson, 49. "They did what they wanted, and they didn't expect any repercussions. At Christmastime, we had been collecting 45 percent of our rent. Their perspective was, 'We've gotta buy toys.' I said, 'No, you're going to pay me at Christmastime before you buy toys.' Our collections for the past five years have been at 94 percent."

    Ebenezer Scrooge and Uncle Tom all rolled into one.

    They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security. Ben Franklin

    by Blue in Texas on Wed May 10, 2006 at 08:14:12 AM PDT

    •  HUD, FEMA, CIA...all the agencies Cheney despises (3+ / 0-)

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      They appoint crooks and incompetents, comfortable in the knowledge that the MSM will never ask a tough question or run a real investigation.

      Arrrgghhhh! Damme, if it ain't another Talk Like a Pirate Day.

      "It is a communist chocolate hellhole and I'm here to stop it ever happening." Eloi Cole

      by perro amarillo on Wed May 10, 2006 at 09:22:38 AM PDT

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  •  I, for one, believe Jackson (2+ / 0-)

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    I also believe the president was speaking "anecdotally" when he talked about imminent peril from the wily, nuclear-armed Iraqis, when he wrote his "thoughts" in the margins of those hundreds of pieces of legislation he signed and when he told his fish story to the Germans ... especially the fish story.

    He didn't actually catch his Moby fish, but he wanted folks to know how he'd feel in the event he did land a huge bass, perch, tuna, snail darter, maco shark or whatever the hell it was ... er, anecdotally was, I mean.

  •  Pledge to the ELEPHANT (0+ / 0-)

    Loyal to party

    It's time for trains. Infrastructure is money in the bank.

    by 88kathy on Wed May 10, 2006 at 08:21:33 AM PDT

  •  Well then, he should name the corrupt (1+ / 0-)

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    If the spokespeople are taken at face value then why is Jackson protecting these criminals?

  •  Georgia10 Good luck on the Exams!! (2+ / 0-)

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    And thanks for another great diary.

  •  Fake story or true story... (2+ / 0-)

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    it was, and was intended to be, a THREAT.

    Give me government-run healthcare over Wall Street-run healthcare anyday...

    by trillian on Wed May 10, 2006 at 08:45:13 AM PDT

  •  The Bush-Jackson Photo Op (4+ / 0-)

    As President Bush's approval ratings continue to plummet, the White House has upped the ante in politicizing virtually every Cabinet department. That's the clear lesson from today's news that HUD Secretary Alphonso Jackson cancelled contracts previously awarded to critics of the President. That revelation came only 24 hours after the Washington Post reported that Department of Agriculture required its public spokesmen to include pro-Iraq war talking points in each speech.

    For the details, see:
    "The Bush Cabinet's Cult of Personality."

  •  the Repubican Mafia (1+ / 0-)

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    Is there a charity, PAC, or government office that the Republicans won't turn into an arm of their money-laundering operation? Where does all this corruption stop?


    Republicans-only escalator, HUD office, Washington DC


    "Anecdotally, Alphonso Jackson is a pig fucker!"

  •  Isn't that how countries in Africa are run? (2+ / 0-)

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    The money goes to the people who have power.
    Let's face it, wherever you go in Africa
    the nation's treasure belongs to the man
    in power --the man with the guns/the military.
    Can you say "Boukassa" or "Amin" or "Sese Seko"
    or "Daniel Arap Moi" or "Charles Taylor" or etc. etc. etc.
    The notion that the "money" belongs to the
    people and not to the man in power is alien

    to Africans.

    George Bush truly is running this country like
    a banana republic.  Michael Brown was SHOCKED
    to learn that his job at FEMA had anything to
    do with emegency management.  He thought his
    job was to carve up the money given to FEMA
    and distribute it (via "government contracts")
    to friends of George W.

    Dan

    •  Your point being...what??? (0+ / 0-)

      Most post-colonial states (as in much of So America and Africa) were set up at independence to continue operating as colonial fiefdoms.  The key to that was in setting up a strong man, an enforcer, who would keep his own people down, and honour the economic interests of his patrons who in turn would turn a blind eye as he lined his pockets.

      The logic for your statement (being devoid of any context) seems to reinforce the racist assertion that the Negro was too inferior to feel any appreciation of sophisticated moral concepts like the common good, which, of course, the white ruler never fails to do.

      BTW, I almost puked when I read your ignorant little comment.  cheers

      "the fools, the fools, they've left us our Fenian Dead" (Padraig Pearse - Gay Revolutionary)

      by padraig pearse on Wed May 10, 2006 at 10:01:02 AM PDT

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  •  Dang! (2+ / 0-)

    There's some FIRST CLASS MUCKRACKING going on on this site today what with this diary and the one dengre wrote on Ney.

    Good job, Georgia10.

    I'm seeing small signs that the U.S. media is awaking from its slumber and they're going to get the hang of this and start going after these cronying criminals just like you are.

    Kudos to you.

    •  Oh the Hangover (1+ / 0-)

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      "I'm seeing small signs that the U.S. media is awaking from its slumber"

      Waking up in the morning hung over and notice they were in bed with someone they would never have been wtih unless they were drunk and then thinking....I never have gone to bed with someone this Fugly and Stupid..........

      It takes a bucket of blood for a barrel of oil.

      by Encriptical Envelopments on Wed May 10, 2006 at 10:43:44 AM PDT

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  •  Who's the Boss? (0+ / 0-)

    First of all, I get all weird when someone changes the vowel in their name, especially when they replace it with a double vowel.

    Dusty into Dustee freaks me out, alright?

    Also - Who names their baby girl Dusty?  A fan of Dusty Springfield?

    So perhaps Dustee (nee Dusty) is a conversion of a nickname (Is her real name Denise perhaps?) which she is now using as her professional name?

    So I should trust this person as a source when she says something so oblique?

    "He did not actually meet with someone and turn down a contract. He's not part of the contracting process."

    No, Dustee, he doesn't actually meet with someone to say "No, you can't have the contract because you're not a friend of the President."

    No, Dustee, he simply hires people to represent his  department, who will be his agents or reps, to accept and reject contracts (most probably in writing) and he lets them know the ropes via inneundo, approving initials or disapprovals, past hiring record, and little comments, winks, and shrugs during his bureaucratic meetings with his agents or reps.

    Jackson's the boss, Dustee.

  •  whaaaaat? (1+ / 0-)

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    'This isn't the way government is supposed to work? You mean, shaking down bidders for political contributions isn't cool?'

    Now, that's funny!

    Jackson really should quit his day job, and go on the comedy circuit.

    Really.

  •  Re... (0+ / 0-)

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    (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
    Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

    by Sparhawk on Wed May 10, 2006 at 11:33:36 AM PDT

  •  Here's what I love (1+ / 0-)

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    "He was merely trying to explain to the audience how people in D.C., will say critical things about the secretary, will unfairly characterize the president and then turn around and ask you for money," Tucker said.

    ASK YOU FOR MONEY?? Like this contractor was asking for a fucking HANDOUT? No, you dumb fucking nitwit, he was BIDDING ON A CONTRACT. He intended to PROVIDE A SERVICE and THEN ask for money -- ON A FUCKIN' INVOICE!

    Jesus Horatio Christ.

    Conservatives love America like four-year-old kids love their mommies. -Al Franken

    by leftilicious on Wed May 10, 2006 at 11:39:30 AM PDT

  •  'Anecdotal'? (0+ / 0-)

    Is that a subset of "theoretical"?

  •  Can't believe no one mentioned (0+ / 0-)

    this creep was Olbermann's "worst person in the world" last night. Well-deserved.

  •  Dustee now on scheduled leave.... (late update) (0+ / 0-)

    From Thinkprogress...  Dustee is now on leave...

    What a coincedence!

    ThinkProgress - Dustee's Scheduled Leave

  •  He fits right in (0+ / 0-)

    Seriously, say something incredibly stupid, and then try to Spin right around it when he realizes he's got his foot ankle-deep in his mouth. Just like the rest of 'em.

    FEMA, taking the "Ergency" out of Emergency.

    by Canootsun on Wed May 10, 2006 at 03:56:20 PM PDT

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