Updated: Leopold's sources, a FABRICATION w/poll

Listen, I don't expect anyone to take this seriously.  That is alright.  In all likelyhood the truth regarding this won't come out.  However, when/if this comes out I want to be able to point to this diary.  I expect a lot of egg on a lot faces here.  I expect a lot of criticism.  Who cares. I can take it.  I don't have much mojo on this site as it is.

Well here goes:

Jason Leopold's first source is Don Johnson of Miami Vice fame.  The source works for Fitz and is good friends with Don.  In fact before working at US attorney general's office, REDACTED.  The source was involved indirectly with some research that Don was doing for some acting gig (presumably Miami Vice, not sure about this).  

2nd source: Paul O'Neil.  Not much to say about this except it is not clear if Jason spoke to Paul directly.  (I will try to clarify this in an update later, if I get more info.)  Paul apparently has some connections in the Justice Dept.  Also, he apparently hates this administration.  (Not a big suprise probably).  I got the feeling Jason is less sure of the info he is getting from Paul (or the go between).

In fact, there are some minor discrepancies between Paul's account and Don's account.  In particular, the timing.  Paul (or whoever the go between is) seems convinced that Fitz meant exactly 24 hours.  Don seems to indicate that 24 hours means 24 business hours.  Don is not sure what 24 business hours actually means.  This I think explains some of the ambiguity in Jason's article.  He left it intentionally ambiguous.  In essence, however, both sources agree on the fundamental facts.

I am trying to contact Don and/or Paul to confirm this.  Unfortunately, I don't have their phone numbers.  Please email me if you have them.

UPDATE: Ok, I've got Don's number (still need Paul's). However, don't expect an update regarding my conversation with Don until tomorrow.

UPDATE 2:Ok. My source for this info confirms that, in fact, Jason did not speak directly to Paul. My source in fact is pretty pissed off about this whole diary. He presumed somehow that our conversations were off the record. He has asked me to at least redact some of the identifying information regarding Don's sources into the attny. general's office. And I have done that. If you did read any of the redacted info, PLEASE forget you read it. My source is a good guy (he's on our side) and he doesn't need the grief. I am, in fact, mulling over whether or not to delete the whole diary.

UPDATE 3:Updated title. I want people to read the diary, and referencing Don probably turns some people off (thinking incorrectly that this is a joke). And another thing, that I have been thinking about: why can't Don Johnson be a source? Why is that so hard to be believe? If I had typed another name (that noone is familiar with) the diary would have been taken more seriously. However, the truth is the truth. Does Don have some credibility issues that I am not familiar with? (I am honestly not a big fan of his, don't know much about him.)

UPDATE 4:Updated title again. It has been revealed to me that my source fabricated the whole story regarding Don Johnson and Paul O'Neil. Obviously, I am furious at my source, as I suspect my reader is. However, in the pursuit of responsible journalism this sort of the thing will happen on occasion. I report the facts as they are presented to me. Unfortunately, journalistic ethics precludes me from divulging my source. I don't want to discourage my source from sharing further information with me in the future. In any event, I have been proved fuckin right! It has been suggested that I delete this diary. I have created a poll to help me decide.

•  Don't forget...

  ... David Hasselhoff.

  by Plutonium Page on Mon May 15, 2006 at 02:35:41 AM PDT

  •  Yep.

    I was expecting this sort of response.  The whole thing is pretty fantastic.  I am pretty psyched about this whole thing.  Never broke a story before, nor did I think I ever would.  Whole thing sort of fell in my lap.

    by bzemky on Mon May 15, 2006 at 02:45:48 AM PDT

  •  WTF!

    WTF is up with David Hasselhoff!!!! He's been mentioned in conspiracy-like circumstances twice tonight!

    I would do a search for david hasselhoff but i would probably find tamifah mentions him more than anyone else!

    Is there a secret David Hasselhoff fan site within the KOS community!!!!

    WTF!
    

    by Tamifah on Mon May 15, 2006 at 02:46:49 AM PDT

•  For heaven's sake, don't tell a soul

  but I heard it was Desi Arnez.

  Shhhh!    ;-)

  by AllisonInSeattle on Mon May 15, 2006 at 02:40:45 AM PDT

•  oh come on

  everyone knows it's al gore getting even.

  by Tamifah on Mon May 15, 2006 at 02:45:16 AM PDT

•  I heard Jessica Simpson's

  cousin has a friend who knows a guy who went to school with the brother of an insider in Fitz's office.  As soon as I get done fucking her I will let you know what she has to say.

  by Ghost of Frank Zappa on Mon May 15, 2006 at 02:45:20 AM PDT

  •  This comment

    "a little ugly on the side." Really offensive. You can do better to make the point you're trying to make

    by wardlow on Mon May 15, 2006 at 02:48:56 AM PDT

    •  Buy the record.

      You'll change your mind.

      by Ghost of Frank Zappa on Mon May 15, 2006 at 02:50:34 AM PDT

    •  Agreed

      This is the sort of comment that keeps me from recommending dailykos (and pretty much every political blog) to my daughter.  (However, I did laugh)

      by bzemky on Mon May 15, 2006 at 02:51:59 AM PDT

      •  Good judgment.

        Children should be kept from reality until at least 18.  Longer if possible.

        by Ghost of Frank Zappa on Mon May 15, 2006 at 03:08:56 AM PDT

        •  So you think my 8 year old should read daily kos?

          by bzemky on Mon May 15, 2006 at 03:10:36 AM PDT

          •  Not until she's 18.

            She should be shielded from the culture she lives in at least until then.

            by Ghost of Frank Zappa on Mon May 15, 2006 at 03:30:08 AM PDT

            •  I took your previous comment as a snark.

              Now do you really mean what you say here or are you being sarcastic.  (Sorry, I have a sarcasm awareness deficiency.)

              by bzemky on Mon May 15, 2006 at 03:36:47 AM PDT

              •  A little of both.

                I don't have children.  But, if I did I wouldn't care if they heard dirty words.  I'm the classic "permissive" kind of thinker.

                I will say that my nephews and nieces used to absolutely go wild over my dirty fairy tales I would tell them at bedtime.  Their favorite?  Goldilocks and the Three Fucking Bears.  They were between 4 and 9 at the time.  They are much older now, but it's still one of their favorite childhood memories.  At least that's what they tell me.  So, make of it what you will.

                by Ghost of Frank Zappa on Mon May 15, 2006 at 04:24:15 AM PDT

                •  Snark all over, little serious on the side

                  No kids of our own down here, but I do get to see the niece and nephews up in Wisconsin next week for another delightful round of subversive avuncularity. I'm proud to say that my uptight backwoods Baptist sister-in-law, mother of the two high school nephews, complains that she has to "deprogram" them after they spend time with me.

                  by gp39m on Mon May 15, 2006 at 07:16:29 AM PDT

                •  Not 'dirty words'

                  As soon as I get done fucking her I will let you know what she has to say.

                  It's not the "dirty words" that offended me. "Fuck" is one of my favorite words. It was the act you described which  struck me as hateful and brutal. If it was on a record, where are the quote marks? Still think you could have made whatever point you were making in some other way besides referencing "getting done fucking" a woman as if she were disposable, no matter who you were referring to.  

                  by wardlow on Sun May 21, 2006 at 11:30:04 PM PDT

        •  These people need a little FZ in their lives.

          Dumb All Over was that first song I played in m car when 9-11 happened.

          The song basically says that is God made us in his image he is dumb as well. He's also ugly. Ever heard the term ugly American.

          by f furney on Mon May 15, 2006 at 03:15:57 AM PDT

•  Crockett

  It's goin down!

  by f furney on Mon May 15, 2006 at 03:12:19 AM PDT

  •  can I just say, by the way,

    that Colin Farrell as Sonny Crockett is just wrong?

    by Buffalo Girl on Mon May 15, 2006 at 05:38:58 AM PDT

•  Rove spokesman sez Leopold scoop is 'fabrication'

  There is a small bit in the NY Sun -- Mark Cavallo, Rove's spokesman, denied the Truthout tale and called it a "complete fabrication."

  http://www.nysun.com/...

  by Torta on Mon May 15, 2006 at 03:12:40 AM PDT

  •  Oops

    My post below (Not suprised one way or the other), was meant to be in response to this post.

    However, let me add: I believe my friend.  Although, he may have been led astray.

    by bzemky on Mon May 15, 2006 at 03:19:25 AM PDT

  •  fabrication does not mean its a lie

    ever watch Orange County Choppers?

    by seesdifferent on Mon May 15, 2006 at 05:51:30 AM PDT

•  Not suprised one way or the other ...

  This whole thing is pretty messy (especially with addition of Don and Paul in the mix).

  by bzemky on Mon May 15, 2006 at 03:16:44 AM PDT

•  Actually all of you don't know crap. I happen

  to know who the source is and he is very qualified.

  Most of you think that the source is really dead but
  the truth is that the report of our hero's death was
  a planted story in order for him to go underground.

  He also was known to be working with Agent 99 .

  Yep folks he just told me I could release it. My
  friend Don Adams was the source for the story.
  He plans to continue working until he is 103 years old.

  So all please stop trying to steal the credit away from
  him.

  by eaglecries on Mon May 15, 2006 at 03:30:29 AM PDT

•  Wayne Madsen says he saw a motorcade

  at the D.C. federal courthouse Friday afternoon of the same sort was there shortly before the indictment of Scooter Libby was announced.  He surmises Attorney General Gonzales was in the motorcade.

  by lysias on Mon May 15, 2006 at 03:34:43 AM PDT

  •  he surmises based on what?

    he said there was no confirmation, yet there was "every indication??"  He saw a motorcade. that's the news.

    by Buffalo Girl on Mon May 15, 2006 at 03:52:47 AM PDT

  •  I checked with my source

    I have confirmed that my source has no knowledge about this one way or the other.  Not sure at this point if he is referring to the motorcade aspect or the AG aspect.  Will try to get clarification and update.  Stay tuned ...

    by bzemky on Mon May 15, 2006 at 04:16:57 AM PDT

•  This story may or may not pan out

  The fact is, Fitz is so tight lipped (read ethical) the we probably won't know about any indictments until the word come out of his mouth at a presser.
  Let us rejoice, however, that Cheney's fingerprints are all over the Libby evidence and that alone will keep the story alive for some time.

  by bulldog on Mon May 15, 2006 at 03:40:19 AM PDT

  •  Fitz is tight lipped.

    No doubt.

    However, it would seem (if my source is correct) that he has at least one guy on his team, who said at least one word to many to the wrong person.

    by bzemky on Mon May 15, 2006 at 03:42:44 AM PDT

•  So far it's unclear but something may happen

  or may not. The reality is Fitzmas could happen but we don;t know 'cause Fitspatrick actually does his job and runs a damn tight ship. Good for him 'cause Starr's team was as leaky as the Titanic (on purpose i believe) . And Fitzpatrick is an Repub. imagine if they had the sense to run him for President. Like i said, imagine 'cause they aren't that smart. Then again we might run Hilarious and what does that say about our smarts? Go Patrick Go..We'll be happy whenever you indict. As for this diary, you definitely need A) more solid info and B) permission from your source. It's the right thing to do unless they don;t indict. Then you need all the solid info as possible.

  by philinmaine on Mon May 15, 2006 at 04:25:33 AM PDT

  •  You mean...

    Patrick Fitzgerald, right?

    by Dr Seuss on Mon May 15, 2006 at 06:59:55 AM PDT

•  Delete this diary

  The source is Don Jonson?  Come on.

  by RequestedUsername on Mon May 15, 2006 at 04:31:00 AM PDT

•  Please delete this diary.

  Why in the world do you need to ask? Delete.

  by Bouwerie Boy on Mon May 15, 2006 at 04:54:50 AM PDT

•  Don't delete this diary.

  First of all, I don't believe that poll. Everyone I know likes this diary and says good things about it. The only reason the poll looks as if it's going against this diary is that the left-leaning liberal main stream media and their flunkies in the lunatic left rage pit DailyKos are reporting only negative news about it.

  Secondly, see Miracle Device for a remarkable discovery that will help you understand why this diary is so important in these times of national torment.

  by Jules Siegel on Mon May 15, 2006 at 05:13:37 AM PDT

•  you are the fabricationer

  there is too much fabricationiness in this diary.

  by seesdifferent on Mon May 15, 2006 at 05:50:13 AM PDT

  •  How can anything give pubic hair a bad name? n/t

    by Jules Siegel on Mon May 15, 2006 at 07:16:13 AM PDT

    •  here you go

      Bush

      by seesdifferent on Mon May 15, 2006 at 12:10:41 PM PDT

      •  A rose by any other name...

        ...and so on and so forth.

        by Jules Siegel on Mon May 15, 2006 at 03:30:10 PM PDT

•  Why is this diary still here?

  

  by Bouwerie Boy on Mon May 15, 2006 at 06:23:36 AM PDT

  •  Because it is a wonderful diary.

    The poll has now turned in favor of the diary, proving that the left-leaning liberal lunatics in the mainstream media controlled by enraged DailyKos fanatics off their meds were WRONG!

    Why do you hate network neutrality?

    by Jules Siegel on Mon May 15, 2006 at 07:15:07 AM PDT