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2008: State of the Republican Field

Wed May 31, 2006 at 01:42:18 PM PDT

As we're heading into the mid-terms, we're getting to the point where a clear view of the 2008 Presidential field is starting to emerge. On the Republican side, most of the candidates on the field are names we're familiar with. However, the shifting political landscape and various other factors have changed the shape the field is in.

Below is an up to date list of likely and in some cases not so likely GOP hopefuls, with analysis about how each would effect the race, both in the primary and the general.

Please note that I've borrowed heavily from the Wikipedia article Potential Republican candidates in the 2008 U.S. presidential election for basic informational text on the candidates. However, most of the analysis is my own.

John Cox, a Chicago CPA and investor announced that he will pursue the Republican nomination for President in 2008. He ran unsuccessfully in Republican primaries in Illinois, for the House in 2000 and for the Senate in 2002. So far, Cox has claimed to have visited 99 counties in Iowa.

WTF? A twice failed office seeker, with no political experience? Obviously, this guy's a non starter

Fred Phelps of Kansas is also reported to have announced on his radio show that he intends to seek the nomination.

While I'm pretty sure he actually won't end up running and he clearly has no chance in Hell, if he did run, I'm of two minds about the effects. On the one hand, he will make any other candidate in the primary look like a paradigm of moderation. I mean, Rick Santorum looks like a bleeding heart liberal next to this guy. However, because the Republican primary is going to be decided by the more extreme factions of the GOP, Phelps could end up dragging everyone else to the right, leaving the primary's winner in the uncomfortable position of having to work twice as hard to convince the American people he (or she) is not a right-wing nut job. And even having Phelps in the primary, representing GOP is going to make them look extreme. Bottom line, I think Phelps in the race would be a blessing.

George Allen, current Senator and former Governor of Virginia. As of May 2nd, 2005, a survey of 75 Washington insiders conducted by National Journal's The Hotline reveals that he is considered by some to be a current front-runner for the GOP party nomination. On February 11, 2006, Senator Allen was the top choice of conservatives at the annual CPAC convention in Washington D.C. receiving 22% of the votes. Senator McCain received 20%, followed by Giuliani at 12%, and Condi Rice at 10%. Newt Gingrich received 5% of the votes.

Yes, but if he doesn't win reelection by a handy amount, he's not going to be able to recover. And that's assuming he wins reelection.

Sam Brownback, senior Senator from Kansas. In April 2005, the Associated Press reported that Brownback, who is little known outside his home state, "is using a network of social conservatives and Christian activists to raise his profile" in such battleground states as Iowa and New Hampshire. In December of 2005, Senator Brownback joined with Senator McCain in endorsing Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell for Governor of Ohio. This move was perceived as an attempt by Senator Brownback to court favor with conservative Republican voters in Ohio

On the one hand, he's been courting the Christian Right pretty hard, but in the Senate he's made not so little acts of moderation, such as workings with Democrats to soften the immigration bill. It's a very strange game he's playing, as long as he doesn't pull a McCain and piss of the base, it may just pay off.

Bill Frist is caught between his support of the Bush administration as Senate Majority Leader, and his personal financial scandals. Between that, and not coming through for his social conservative base on any of their issues, and he's dead in the water before he even has both feet in.

Still, he has enough fight left in him, that I've got him up here, rather then down the diary with the people who don't have a prayer.

Newt Gingrich. According to the Associated Press, "The former House speaker who led Republicans to power a decade ago said he soon will visit Iowa and New Hampshire to promote his book, try to influence public policy and keep his political options alive." The AP reported him as saying "Anything seems possible," including a White House race. In 2005, Gingrich was good-naturedly prompted by The Daily Show host Jon Stewart to announce his ambition for the presidency, to which Gingrich responded "...the last guy to announce on your show (Edwards) came in fourth." Gingrich first explicitly suggested he may run in 2008 on October 13, 2005, saying "There are circumstances where I will run", elaborating that such circumstances would be if no other candidate champions the major platform ideas that Gingrich advocates.

Never but never count this guy out. If he throws in, he's a major contender for the nomination, and he wins it, he'll be formidable in the general. A decade between you and your last term in public office can make people forget about things like censure and government shutdowns.

Chuck Hagel, US Senator from Nabraska. In August 2004, Hagel acknowledged that he is considering a presidential campaign in 2008. He spoke to the Iowa delegation at the 2004 Republican National Convention. However, being a fairly moderate and sometimes liberal Republican, he will face challenges from more conservative elements, particularly on his Iraq war positions.

However, Hagel has solid social conservative creds, and he's wisely distanced himself from the administration on many fronts. He has an even shot in the primary, and if he makes it to the general he robs us of some of our strongest issues: namely the war, and support for the failed Bush administration polices. And if we run Hillary, we'll be on the wrong side of them.

Mike Huckabee, Governor of that state Arkansas. An Arkansas News Bureau Report indicates that he has told close friends that he will seek the nomination. There is at least one Draft Huckabee site online. In November of 2005, Time Magazine named him one of America's five best governors. He is currently chairman of the National Governors Association, considered a stepping-stone for politicians with aspirations for higher office. There are several similarities between Huckabee and former President Bill Clinton.

I'm with Kos on this one. This is a guy to watch very closely.

Dr. Condoleezza Rice, currently the Secretary of State, said on Meet the Press and elsewhere that she doesn't intend to run for President, though there is a burgeoning "draft Condi" movement. The group Americans For Dr. Rice has already raised a great deal of funds, has been at many major conservative political events (including cosponsoring CPAC, the largest of such events in the nation), and has aired television and radio advertisements in at least four states (including Iowa and New Hampshire) and Washington DC. In an August 8-10 Republican primary poll in Iowa, Rice came in first with 30 percent, dwarfing John McCain and Rudolph Giuliani, who each got about 15 percent. As of early 2006, Rice has led in most major public opinion polls

The question used to be "Would the Republicans nominate a black women?" I think at this point the bigger question is would the republicans nominate someone who embodies the worst of the previous administration? The good news is, despite everything that could make her dangerous, her well-documented track record of incompetence and her close ties to an unpopular presidency sink her. It's ironic that she's such a flawed candidate in this regard too, because as a female candidate she basically explodes all the stereotypes and preconceptions that normally haunt female candidates. However, being female won't be nearly enough to get around her baggage, which primary candidates with out close ties to the Bush administration will eagerly exploit to sink her.

And now, people who have no chance

John McCain has always had trouble with the Republican base, and simply isn't trusted by them. At this point, I'm not sure how much he's trusted by the rest of the country. Ten bucks says he drops out after New Hampshire.

Mitt Romney thinks he can be President. Isn't that cute.

Rudy Giuliani is pro-choice, pro-gay rights, and anti-gun. Three things you can not be at the same time as being the Republican nominee for President.

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Nuff' said.

Tom Tancredo is a one trick pony. Plus, he's in the House, and how many Presidents have we gotten from the House in the last 200 years? I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure you can count it on one hand.

Jeb Bush doesn't have a shot in hell. Anyone who says he does has either been asleep for the last year and a half, or is sniffing something.

Rick Santorum still thinks he can be the next president from the state of Virginia... I mean Pennsylvania. Of course at this point, it's unlikely he'll even be a senator in 2008, much less in a position to run for higher office.

Mike Rounds, Governor of South Dakota, had one of the highest approval ratings for a governor in January 2006. On March 6, 2006, Rounds signed into law a bill banning nearly all abortions in South Dakota. This is expected to spark a legal challenge, and some supporters see it as a first step to the Supreme Court overturning its 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade.However, it led to Rounds' approval rating dropping 14%.

I can only hope Rounds is the nominee. If he's the nominee, we win in a landslide. And if, God forbid, Roe v. Wade was overturned as a result of the law he signed, Rounds becomes the man who outlawed abortion. If that happens, we win in a landslide, and female voter turnout jumps into the low 80's.

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  •  Tip Jar (7+ / 0-)

    Hope this was helpful in painting a picture of the current Republican field. If people like this diary, I’ll follow up with one for our side in the next few days.

  •  John Cox? (1+ / 0-)

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    Jeez, I live in Illinois, and even I have never heard of him.

    Lying can never save us from another lie - Vaclav Havel

    by Muwarr90 on Wed May 31, 2006 at 01:36:26 PM PDT

  •  I love this snark (0+ / 0-)

    Rick Santorum still thinks he can be the next president from the state of Virginia... I mean Pennsylvania.

    Is Phelps seeking the Democratic or the Republican nomination for president?  I thought he was a registered Democrat and I think that alone would give Rethugs ammunition to use against him.

    January 20. 2009 cannot come soon enough.

    by Crisis Corps Volunteer on Wed May 31, 2006 at 01:39:58 PM PDT

    •  I don't think (1+ / 0-)

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      They need to look for party ID for ammo. I think the protests at soldiers' funerals is ammo enough.

      That said, he presents the rest of the field with a tough choice: repudaite Phelps, and risk alienating the base (which not only can cast a shadow over the primary, but can also hurt GOTV efforts in the general), or let Phelps lead them down the garden path to marginializtion. Either way, Phelps's issues are too important to too many Republicans from him to simply be written off as crazy.

      •  Phelps (0+ / 0-)

        Phelps issues may be important to them, but I think the shear level of Phelps crazy will let them off the hook for dismissing him as crazy

        Lying can never save us from another lie - Vaclav Havel

        by Muwarr90 on Wed May 31, 2006 at 01:51:13 PM PDT

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        •  There's a trick I'd like to see (0+ / 0-)

          "I agree with the Rev. Phelps on a number of key issues, but I think he's batshit insane."

          I'm not saying it can't be done, but I am saying it will be very hard to do without talking in John Kerry.

          •  Politicians do it all the time (0+ / 0-)

            It's the first skill needed for the job.

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            Lying can never save us from another lie - Vaclav Havel

            by Muwarr90 on Wed May 31, 2006 at 02:00:17 PM PDT

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            •  Yeah, but (0+ / 0-)

              Due to the state of the modern Republican party, Phelps is a test that redlines that ability. I mean, you can try to marginilize him, and you'll be able to, no problem. But you're going to get asked what you think about the things Phelps says, and it's going to be extreamly difficult to show how you're not also crazy, while at the same time not alienating the vaules voters. In point of fact, dealing with Phelps carries the danger of pissing of elements of the Christian Right who aran't as extream as Phelps, but also aran't going to like it if you don't look like you're 100% behind their issues.

              Phelps is a bear trap for Republicans, any way you look at it.

              •  I disagree (0+ / 0-)

                I think any repub who gets asked about Phelps is simply going to say something along the lines of "I disagree with his actions at the funerals at our fallen service men and women who have so nobley served our country in Afghanistan and Iraq."

                And that's all they'll have to say.

                Lying can never save us from another lie - Vaclav Havel

                by Muwarr90 on Wed May 31, 2006 at 02:08:30 PM PDT

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      •  Phelps (0+ / 0-)

        I don't think that Phelps will win significant support, even from the far right - he's just too extreme.  But if he does, it poses an interesting problem for the Repugs even before the votes are counted.  Will they include him in the debates?  Even appearing on the same stage with a guy who pickets funerals will be embarassing when it comes time for whoever wins to pretend to be a moderate.

        •  Exactly (0+ / 0-)

          He's a non-starter as far as candidates go and would be lucky to get 1% in New Hampshire, but if he's even on the field then there's no way for the other candidates to avoid dealing with the guy.

          And unlike the Dems and LaRouche, they can't just ignore him, because he's A) much better at getting attention from the media than LaRouche B) dare I say it, much more lucid than LaRouche, and C) he repersents something that a lot of Republicans agree with, even if they don't agree with his methods or like him.

          So, then you have the problem of marginalizing Phelps, without looking to socially liberal. That's a dance I'm sure glade none of our candidates will have to do.

  •  Tommy Thompson (1+ / 0-)

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    the former HHS secretary and Wisconsin Governor's repeatedly expressed interest. While I'd find him preferable to any of those mentioned in the diary, the only way he gets the nomination is as the compromise in a deadlocked convention, and even then, Lamar Alexander's more likely.

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    by ben masel on Wed May 31, 2006 at 01:58:14 PM PDT

  •  I still think (1+ / 0-)

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    Hagel comes out as the nominee...

    On Tancredo: McKinley came from the House, Ford sort of did (by way of appointment to the VP).  

    Also, Tancredo is fast becoming our Jean Marie Le Pen.  If people like that stuff, he'll appeal to that.

    •  I thought McKinley (0+ / 0-)

      Was from the Senate.

      As for Ford, I wasn't counting people who were VP first (and really since Ford was never elected to anything but a House seat in Michigan, he's no one to look to).

    •  As to the other points (1+ / 0-)

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      Candidates like Tancredo with a single issue almost never make it very far. But they do put highlight the issue and make other candidates take it up. But since Rove already put it on the table trying to come up with a wedge issue, it's already going to be front and center for everyone who's even thinking about running. Thus, Tancredo's effectiveness is greatly reduced.

      I won't go as far as to say Hagel comes out the winner, but I will say he's in one of the best positions of anyone on this, or any other list.

  •  Also (0+ / 0-)

    Wikipedia can be a little weird on the "candidate" ends... people have listed everyone from Tony Robbins to Omar Epps as potential candidates.

  •  It will be Allen... (0+ / 0-)

    If it's not McCain, it will be Allen.  A lobbyist friend of mine in DC says (and he would know) that Allen is the inside-the beltway-GOP's absolute 1st choice.  They don't like McCain, don't trust him, whereas Allen is Bush re-dux, massively pro-corporate and socially right-wing enough to draw in the wingers.

    If you're putting $$ on anyone, put it on Allen.

  •  Phelps... (0+ / 0-)

    ....is a registered Democrat, and may run on the Democratic ticket, although he's more likely to go third party.

  •  Thoughts (0+ / 0-)

    Allen is the frontrunner if he beats either Webb or Miller this fall.  Everything for Allen hinges on this fall; if he loses, his political career is over.

    You're right, McCain and Guiliani don't have the trust of the base and would fizzle.  The drag photo of Rudy and McCain's flip flop on Falwell are an oppo researcher's dream.

    Gingrich still has the stigma of his tenure as Speaker, and that'll probably do him in with the general public.  Still, he's trying to reinvent himself as a sensible alternative to the GOP's extremists, and can come off surprisingly sensible compared with some of the alternatives.  Whether the base still trusts him - he's more a libertarian than a Dobsonite at heart - is anybody's guess.  It's also anybody's guess whether or not the general public accepts a kinder, gentler Newt.

    Jeb! has his eyes on the prize, but I doubt he's going to go for the brass ring in 2008.  Bush 41 has strongly hinted that Jeb! won't run in '08, and he'd have a better shot without his brother's stigma.

    Frist?  Probably a poor candidate on a national stage.  After all, he has poor speaking skills and there is that thing about cat-killing.  Couple his record as majority leader (he made Lott look good)  with the Schiavo fiasco and his lackluster speaking style (here, he makes Bob Dole look like Churchill), and you've got a guy who's not likely to make it past Super Tuesday.

    Huckabee, as I've said before, is a sleeper candidate that bears watching.  Compelling personal story, smart, and good with the media.  Watch this guy.

    There are two questions for Brownback.  Can he build a national organization?  And can he sell himself as not too extreme for everybody but the base?  Still, I see him more as a potential VP candidate than a real contender for the top nod in '08.

    Again, if Allen beats Webb, I'd say he's slightly favored over Huckabee and the field.  If not, it's a free for all.

    War is over if you want it. -- John Lennon

    by Theodoric of York Medieval Liberal on Wed May 31, 2006 at 04:07:53 PM PDT

  •  well, as for brownback, allen and the far right (0+ / 0-)

    nuts, i don't think america needs or wants anymore so called conservatives. they now understand that these fools helped create the mess we are in. hagel or newt are the only ones i would fear.

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