We need support for Ford Jr.

OK Kos here's is my rant.

I found this on Blogging for Corker Site

http://bloggingforcorker.com/...

The Daily Kos, vacation home of liberal extremists once they leave the safe confines of Democratic Underground, has weighed in on the Tennessee Senate race

  Can Harold Ford, Jr., beat Bob Corker for the US Senate seat in Tennessee? I've been saying "No" to that question because I just don't see a Red state like Tennessee electing a "Republican-lite" when they can elect a real Republican.

    What does Ford offer that Corker doesn't? The answers: a) a step towards a Democratic majority, b) he's pro-choice, c) he's pro-stem cell research, d) he's anti-CAFTA, e) he's for alternative energy. Okay, he's got my vote. But the rest of Tennessee isn't going to be impressed by these issues.

No, Tennessee isn't impressed. I see a Bush-Kerry margin in his future. But despite his liberal voting record, Ford isn't liberal enough for the Kos. No surprise, really. They aren't truly interested in winning elections - we know that.

But I do hope that Kos continues to speak on behalf of Ford.

Please stop giving our opponent foder.

Bob Corker is worst than Bill First and is wrong for Tennessee and the nation.

Support Ford!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

•  Here's all I'm going to say...

  Someone needs to pay me $1,000 before I can afford to support Ford.

  by 8ackgr0und N015e on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 05:12:57 AM PDT

  •  You didn't get it then

    and you don't get it now.  Reread every post from DemocraticLuntz.  It is called politics.

    by deathsinger on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 05:40:14 AM PDT

    •  There is nothing politically astute about this.

      We simply cannot afford representatives who vote in favor of illusory increases in the minimum wage and a real repeal in the estate tax.
       
      You and democraticluntz would agree he voted for something that is not in the interests of his constituents.  Yet you would applaud it. Why? Presumably, because he is defending himself from being branded by the opposition. You paint it as politically astute that he will have his cake and eat it too.  I say he is hiding behind those willing to vote their conscience.   He feels safe doing this because other, stronger men, will prevent this transfer of wealth.  Finally, this is not a one off event. As I indicated, this is a pattern.   Hitching your wagon to that is a prescription for disaster.

      by 8ackgr0und N015e on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 06:14:18 AM PDT

      •  I would say he is

        astute enough to know the rules of the Senate and the fact that the bill would not, and in case you missed it, did not pass Congress.

        You don't seem to understand that hitching your wagon to Corker is a disaster, not a prescription for one.

        by deathsinger on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 06:20:11 AM PDT

        •  I'm not hitching my wagon to Corker

          I am witholding support until a better candidate is provided.  Settling for his kind of opportunism has gotten us nowhere but trouble.  We need to demand better.  

          by 8ackgr0und N015e on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 06:23:46 AM PDT

          •  There is no other candidate

            You have a choice, Ford or Corker.

            by deathsinger on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 06:36:05 AM PDT

            •  abstain...

              DLC must do better

              by 8ackgr0und N015e on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 06:43:07 AM PDT

              •  Yeah, causing not voting

                really sends a message.  Of course that message reads: voter to lazy to vote.

                On the other hand you could vote for some nothing down the ballot.  I'm not sure exactly what message Democrats who voted for Nader sent, other than "we're surprised by the fact that not voting for Gore allowed Bush to win."

                by deathsinger on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 07:19:40 AM PDT

                •  i don't vote in TN...but I am not sending money

                  I vote with my wallet in this case.

                  The fact is that in a national party, the opinions and choices of voters who are natural constituents matter as well as those of geographic constituents.  Ford is doing nothing to garner support of this natural constituent.  

                  by 8ackgr0und N015e on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 07:42:10 AM PDT

                  •  I can live with that

                    I was under the (wrong) impression that you meant to not vote for Ford.  As someone who does live in TN I was highly annoyed.  

                    I don't think you should send money to Ford if you don't agree with his politics.  At the same time, I would appreciate you making the distinction since this Senate race means a shitload more to us that do live in the state.  The only position in government that I am represented by a Democrat is governor (including Local, State and Federal).

                    by deathsinger on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 07:48:39 AM PDT

•  That wasn't Kos

  If you follow the link posted at that blog, you'll see that it goes to a diary by a user named R o o k.      I always try to check that because most Republicans are too stupid to understand that anyone can write a diary at this website without editorial control from Kos.

  In any case, even though this is an important race for Democrats to win, I don't think it's a good idea for Kos to get too involved in it.  This community doesn't have as much pull in TN as it does in places like CT or even VA.

  by MattBellamy on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 05:55:01 AM PDT

  •  Not only was it not Kos...

    ...but it also wasn't "on behalf of" the Ford campaign.  It was just me and my opinion.  

    Even more irritating is the part about Kossacks not being interested in winning.  The entire post was about HOW to win.  But of course they weren't trying to accurately represent my words - they just wanted to grab a couple of lines out of context for their own spin purposes.

    And I'm okay with that.  It's politics.  It happens.  I'm kind of flattered to be used out of context.

    Which leads me to my response to this diary.  I wasn't providing ammo to the opposition; I was providing a playbook for winning against Corker.  And I'm not going to be afraid to keep speaking my opinions on this website because they might be hacked up and used out of context elsewhere.

    So I stand by my original post: Ford and Corker are too similar for Ford to win over enough of Tennessee's swing voters. Therefore, we (the netroots) should focus on reminding hardcore "Christian" Republicans that Corker isn't really one of them, so they won't be motivate to donate or to GOTV.

    by R o o k on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 11:13:14 AM PDT

•  The only reason

  I support Ford for Senate is because he is technically a Democrat and we need such technicalities to technically have a Senate majority. But a lot of his positions are horrible. Like favoring the flag burning amendment, that horrible bankruptcy bill, lifting the hand gun ban in D.C. and posting the 10 commandments in every courtroom in Tennessee.

  by Aspe4 on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 07:06:15 AM PDT

•  Latest from bloggingforcorker...

  this diary is on its frontpage under the title "We've got them where we want them."

  by R o o k on Fri Aug 11, 2006 at 02:59:48 PM PDT