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Power to the Chickens!

Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 01:57:21 AM PDT

Yesterday deano's post about Ben & Jerry's alleged mistreatment of animals, specifically chickens, yielded an interesting and, at times, combative thread about the use and abuse of animals for food, clothing, and other human necessities. A few of the comments were along the lines of "They're just chickens, get over it," while others challenged the hypocrisy of animal defenders with questions like, "Don't you wear leather?"

I'm going to sidestep the issue of B&J's corporate social responsibilities, because I don't know the company's history since it was purchased, but I want to go to the heart of the comments. We're supposedly "liberals," in the historic sense of that word. So in the spirit of Rawlsian liberalism, which is at root the story of extending rights to the oppressed, and giving voice to the voiceless, I want to try to put our chicken discussion in context - specifically a historical, ethical, and jurisprudential framework.

Right up front: Yes, I'm a vegetarian and have been for more than 30 years, but I'm not a PETA member or Animal Liberation Front activist. I wear leather shoes and belts, I spend almost every summer on a cattle ranch, I don't care if people hunt (although I hate the "caged" safaris where you're guaranteed a kill), and unlike Albert Schweitzer in the West or Gandhi in the East I don't go out of my way to lift ants, wasps, and other insects off the sidewalk so they won't get stepped on.

As historian Rod Nash describes in a dated but still interesting book called The Rights of Nature, since at least the 1970s the animal rights movement (and the larger environmental community in general) has argued that our mistreatment of animals (and nature) can be viewed in the same light as the abuses of earlier "communities": serfs, blacks, women. In each case, the oppressed person was considered "property," not entitled to the same rights as privileged classes. Prior to the passage of the Magna Carta in 1215, suggesting that serfs had "rights" sounded nearly as preposterous then as "chickens have rights" does today. To argue, as some did in Philadelphia, that slaves were feeling, thinking beings seemed equally ludicrous to the majority, and, as you know, this is how African Americans were counted in the Constitution:

Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3:
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.

William Lloyd Garrison, John Brown, and other Abolitionists were often viewed like animal rights advocates are today - as kooks. It was not until 1863 - nearly 90 years after Jefferson wrote "all men are created equal" - that the Emancipation Proclamation acted on those words, and it took until the 1957 Civil Rights Act to extend these rights to the voting booth. Likewise, to maintain prior to the 1920 passage of the 19th Amendment that women should be accorded rights was considered outlandish by many, even among women. The point is that rights evolve, and we're seeing that process acted out today on the animal "rights" and environmental "rights" stages.

Certainly there were "humanitarian" organizations in the 19th century that advocated for the compassionate treatment of animals, from which we get today's ASPCA, humane societies, and related groups. Along with philosophers like Jeremy Bentham, these organizations focused primarily on horses, farm animals, and pets, and their message was decidedly anthropocentric, i.e, what was in our best interest. Today's groups focus less on what our treatment of animals says about people, and more on what it means to animals. In its largest sense, this discussion is central to liberalism - the idea of rights, how far they can be extended, and, importantly, who gets to say (animals can't).

This discussion is not just taking place among the members of PETA and ALF, although I do appreciate the fact that there are advocates willing to engage in civil disobedience, monkeywrenching, and pushing the envelope (not unlike the theory of the Overton Window that's been floating around here). Christopher Stone's 1972 article, "Should Trees Have Standing?" provoked years of discussion, dialog, and inquiry among philosophers, historians, theologians, and legal scholars - eventually making its way to Justice William O. Douglas and the Supreme Court, and helping to set the stage for the 1973 Endangered Species Act. The conclusion: it's not "just a snail darter" after all.

This concept - that animals, plants, and other nonhumans should be accorded rights not based on their utility to people - continues to be a fruitful and interesting area of research. Most of those who argue that we should widen the moral circle believe we will one day look back and wonder how people treated animals so terribly, just as today we read about the 19th century and cannot fathom how America sanctioned slavery. (Of course you don't have to go back that far. I have the same feeling when I watch grainy documentaries from the 1950s, when African Americans were lynched, hosed down, or set upon with dogs.)

Sure, it's a huge leap from an African slave to a chicken, but the thing is, both are sentient beings. Arguing that chickens cannot understand or think or imagine as humans do is "speciesism." Further, researchers tell us dolphins can think at nearly a human level, and many of us would argue there's some kind of thought process going on in our dog's head, so the question is, "Where do we draw the line?" Dolphin, dog, cat, cow, goat, rabbit, chicken, worm? The so-called deep ecologists argue that any living thing, from lichen to mosquito, should be included in our ethical system. If you can't go that far, consider that chickens and most other animals feel pain, which is the principle that generally underpins the question of where the line is drawn. You may remember when full-page newspaper ads in the 1980s showed rabbits being blinded for cosmetic research, and Revlon was forced to find less painful methods to provide our mascara. That's the deal: we don't have to cause pain.

Again, I'm not advocating vegetarianism or encouraging you to boycott petting zoos, but if most people visited a factory farm - where chickens never leave a cage (their beaks cut off so they don't peck one another), where cattle rarely see the light of day - they might consider that maybe, just maybe, there's another way. Just as Revlon found another method to test cosmetics, we can find more humane ways to raise animals for clothes and dinners. As one commenter said yesterday, it's like driving: Most of us do it and, yes, I suppose drivers who are environmentally active are hypocrites (somewhat) because driving is hard on nature. But we can be responsible: buy a car that gets good mileage, carpool, and cut down on commutes. It's about being aware and doing as little harm as possible. But most of us aren't aware of the food chain, being so disconnected from it (about 2% of Americans are farmers). We don't know where that lettuce in our salad came from (or how the workers were exploited); we don't know how that McNugget came to be (ditto). Out of sight, out of mind.

I realize this isn't the most important issue of the day, especially since we haven't yet extended equal rights to all people. It's still considered okay, for example, to withhold rights from the GLTG community, and the way this administration devalues the rights of entire nations, other ethnicities, and different religions is despicable. But I'd encourage us to fold animals into our moral considerations, and if the ethical argument doesn't hold water for you, consider that many of the huge corporations that raise chickens and cattle pollute our lands and waters, they destroy local economies, and they are among the worst offenders when it comes to workers' rights. But that's two or three other diaries.

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  •  I'll recommend this diary (1+ / 0-)

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    Bouwerie Boy

    without even having time to do more than scan it.  The comments in deano's diary were amazing to me.  If people don't see what is wrong with animal cruelty, they should educate themselves about the dangers of factory farms to the environment and to the consumer.  

    I'm guessing that you couldn't drag most people to a factory farm or a slaughter house.  We need diaries like this to make people aware of what the situation really is.  

  •  observation.. (2+ / 0-)

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    Bouwerie Boy, Mother Mags, Albatross

    People that see nothing wrong with treating animals cruely, I have often seen, treat children cruel..Both are helpless..

  •  I'll be serious for a moment. (3+ / 0-)

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    Bouwerie Boy, Mother Mags, Albatross

    Hurting animals for no reason is the number one sign of a jerk (well, after hurting people...)

    Hurting animals for a reason is a step up, but the reason needs to outweigh a general respect for life.

    A 'general respect for life' should also extend to plants, and the earth itself, which leads me to define the hierarchy as I see it: Earth is the lowest, plant life next (in ascending order of attractiveness), ditto animals, then people. Yes, the most attractive people and animals deserve the best treatment, and should be eaten LAST. I guess also those with "nice personalities"...what I'm saying here is; "I'm a jerk." and "I eat meat." although the two are not necessarily related.

    Bottom line: treat animals with respect, and when it is desirable or necessary to eat them or something like that, do it quickly and humanely (and wipe your mouth).

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    If it didn't piss you off, we wouldn't need the first amendment now, would we?

    by PBJ Diddy on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 03:51:58 AM PDT

  •  Chickens and Crude Oil (4+ / 0-)

     I live on a small farm and really nobody that raises livestock on a small scale can make any money because of the factory farming.

     But you eat a chicken, or an egg, or especially pork that is home raised it doesn't even taste like the same stuff.

     If we could outlaw factory farming the cost of food would greatly increase, just like if we switched right now to Biodiesel the cost of fuel would go up. But it would put more money into the hands of the little guy and would be the right thing to do.

     But how do you make people do it? I know people who make WAY more money than me who shop at Walmart instead of Krogers(Union) because they can save a few bucks. How would you get them to make that decision to spend a few extra bucks to benefit the animals and their countrymen?

  •  Recd. (1+ / 0-)

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    Mother Mags

    This diary is what I wished the other one was. Thoughtful, articulate, thought provoking, not accusatory, but arguing for the issues within the scope of progressive values. Nicely done.

    Do not be overwhelmed by the enormity of the world's grief...You are not obligated to complete the work, but neither are you free to abandon it.

    by Albatross on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 04:33:29 AM PDT

  •  One other notion for those who can't empathize (0+ / 0-)

    A mistreated, abused animal has all the hormones produced by such stresses permeating their flesh.  Do you really want to eat that?

  •  thinking (1+ / 0-)

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    Mother Mags

    Sure, it's a huge leap from an African slave to a chicken, but the thing is, both are sentient beings. Arguing that chickens cannot understand or think or imagine as humans do is "speciesism."

    This is highly debatable.

    However, what isn't in much doubt is that higher animals certainly feel pain.  That alone is enough to mandate humane treatment, humane slaughter and a constant re-thinking and debate of why and how we use animals (food, fur, by-products, etc).

    I really wish activists wouldn't confuse the issue by introducing the notion of "rights" and "sentience," or how animals "think" - which is immaterial to the question of humane treatment, in my view.

  •  Great diary (1+ / 0-)

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    Mother Mags

    I don't know what to add.

    One minor quibble is the diary I posted was not my own. I was hosting it for someone who didn't have an anonymous screen name at the time (not sure what it is yet, I think he has signed up though).

    My views on animal rights/animal welfare can be found at My Left Wing. The diary was: I 'm a moderate

    Maybe one day I'll cross-post a version of it.

    •  Thanks for the clarification, (1+ / 0-)

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      deano

      I do remember that you were posting for another. I'll check out your MLW diary, thanks. Also saw your update about B&J.

      "One cannot be pessimistic about the West. This is the native land of hope." Wallace Stegner

      by Mother Mags on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 09:51:05 PM PDT

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