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Wake Island farewell

Wed Aug 30, 2006 at 08:33:17 PM PDT

A small U.S. territory, Wake Island, in the Pacific Ocean, is about to disappear under supertyphoon Ioke.

Wake Island was, until two days ago, home to about 200 people. They have been relocated to Hawaii. (I don't know about pets.)

Supertyphoon Ioke is a category 5 hurricane with waves over 50 feet in height.

The highest point on Wake Island is twenty feet above sea level.

The math's not that hard to do. A direct hit has a fair chance of removing Wake Island, which was once important enough to be invaded and occupied by the Japanese, then invaded and occupied again by the Americans (including George Herbert Walker Bush-- the fightin' Bush!)-- removing it, I say, from the map.

Granted, it's not much of an island. But it was home to somebody. Other insignificant-seeming low-lying lands-- Tuvalu, say, and Florida-- will follow over the next few years.

Cheers for the evacuation of Wake Island... let's hope all the future evacuations are as successful.

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  •  Thanks Sensible (4+ / 0-)

    You can see it way over to the left here it's HUGE!

    Does anyone know if Tuvalu was ever able to sell its 'domain' ( don't know what its really called) name? I heard they were trying to do it to raise money. It's .tv and they figured it would be worth something.

  •  Fuck Florida (1+ / 0-)

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    SensibleShoes

    They can move to New Jersey.

    Where do Pacific Islanders go? So sad.

    •  Other Pacific Islands (1+ / 0-)

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      mariachi mama

      till their ain't none left, I guess.
      This thing might also be headed for Guam, and Wake Island ain't gonna slow it down much.

      -9.0, -8.3. History is more or less bunk.--Henry Ford
      Henry Ford is more or less bunk.--history

      by SensibleShoes on Wed Aug 30, 2006 at 08:38:35 PM PDT

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      •  Hawaii in pretty large numbers (1+ / 0-)

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        viscerality

        many relocate here for jobs/education/health  especially those from places like Guam, Majuro Samoa etc that have the right to come here without immigration restrictions.

        Gore's movie made us sweat a little.  We're 70 ft ish above sea level, but if we get a sudden 20 ft rise we'd have water lapping at the base of our bluff.  Ocean front sounds great until you consider you could be under water not long after....

        20 ft would also destroy our closest town, knock out the road to our main town and airport and more.  The only tiny upside would be getting to rub a few conservatives I know in their "myth" feces.  

    •  I thought we were going to move (0+ / 0-)

      Israel to New Jersey

    •  I am never (0+ / 0-)

      moving back to New Jersey.

      Where do you live?  I can bunk there.

      Live Free or Die-words to live by

      by ForFreedom on Wed Aug 30, 2006 at 11:20:33 PM PDT

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  •  This is sad (1+ / 0-)

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    nothing to do but watch and hope.

    Part of nature - but driven by man.

    Blogging locally, acting globally 4&20 blackbirds

    by jhwygirl on Wed Aug 30, 2006 at 08:45:21 PM PDT

    •  Well, at least all the people are out. (0+ / 0-)

      Which is good.
      I wonder whether this thing will make it all the way to Asia without dissipating. Hope not. I think Guam might also be in its path.

      -9.0, -8.3. History is more or less bunk.--Henry Ford
      Henry Ford is more or less bunk.--history

      by SensibleShoes on Wed Aug 30, 2006 at 08:47:13 PM PDT

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  •  Don't presume to know (1+ / 0-)

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    the culture, but it seems that a signifacant number of islanders have invested in maintaing their traditional culture against all odds.

    I'm sorry to see it being washed away. I've been reading about this, not just this storm, but rising water. Tuvalu and so on.

    Thanks for the diary.

    •  almost all those evacuated (3+ / 0-)

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      were reported to be Thai nationals working at the base.  or US military.

      Wake isn't really inhabited by my definition.  Just a military base on an otherwise empty atoll.  if the runway is destroyed, maybe we'll let it go back to it's wild state.

      Ioke has been around at cat 5 for about 2 weeks now.  Had me a little nervous when it first popped up due south of us.  It went from a pimple to Cat 5 in about 48 hrs....

      •  didn't it have some rare bird (0+ / 0-)

        indigineous to it?  Maybe that was Midway I'm thinking of. I saw something on Animal Planet about one of them.

        It looks from the track like Japan might be in bigger peril. Of course that depends on the steering currents.
                                 
                         

        A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

        by dougymi on Wed Aug 30, 2006 at 09:01:48 PM PDT

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      •  according to wikipedia (0+ / 0-)

        http://en.wikipedia.org/...

        the only human inhabitants, ever, were shipwreck victims, American military, Japanese military, and American military again.

        The only native species was a flightless bird eaten to extinction by the Japanese.

    •  Yeah, I dunno. (0+ / 0-)

      Wasn't even aware if it was inhabited prior to its career as a WWII base-site. I gather the Japanese executed a whole buncha prisoners there but am not sure where they came from.

      Whoever lives there and however they got there, it's too bad they had to move out in such a hurry... but lucky for them. The U.S. Air Force evacuated 'em all , I guess.

      -9.0, -8.3. History is more or less bunk.--Henry Ford
      Henry Ford is more or less bunk.--history

      by SensibleShoes on Wed Aug 30, 2006 at 08:55:28 PM PDT

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  •  rising sea levels (0+ / 0-)

    My home is about 400 feet above sea level, beyond the cliff edge. Watch for the new world center for cliff diving on the Washington Coast south of Seattle. Big tourist attraction, so I'm saving up for a T-shirt kiosk. ;)

    The sleep of reason brings forth monsters -- Goya

    by ceratotherium on Wed Aug 30, 2006 at 09:18:46 PM PDT

  •  How Long Can You Dog Paddle? (1+ / 0-)

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    I always remember that line from the Bill Cosby routine about Noah.

    My gut tells me that we are already past the point of no return with climate change.  Get ready and remember Solar Is Civil Defense in more ways than one.

    Solar is civil defense. Video of my small scale solar experiments at http://solarray.blogspot.com/2006/03/solar-video.html

    by gmoke on Wed Aug 30, 2006 at 09:20:45 PM PDT

    •  "Wanna give me a hint?" (0+ / 0-)

      "How long can you tread water? Ha ha ha..."

      Bill Cosby, long ago but still funny as all get out.  Until you realize that some people act out his skits without the humor.

      Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt

      by Phoenix Rising on Wed Aug 30, 2006 at 11:57:18 PM PDT

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  •  Wake Island Veterans are a treasure (1+ / 0-)

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    I teach history.  I had a Wake Island survivor come do a presentation for my class 22 years ago.  It is an incredible story almost no one knows now.  But I have his personal story that he typed out to read to my class, all 22 pages of it.

    The guys who held Wake in 41 are the real thing.

    War is hell.  This current war is wrong.  But the men who made their stand on Wake is what this country should be all about.

    "We will now proceed to construct the socialist order."

    by 7November on Wed Aug 30, 2006 at 09:49:58 PM PDT

  •  I stopped there as a child returning from (1+ / 0-)

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    Japan in the fifties. It was a wild trip in at least three legs on a propeller plane. I still have a piece of coral I picked up on the beach there.

    The notion of something that was tangible just disappearing is hard to accept.

    How sad.

  •  My dad used to go to Wake Island (1+ / 0-)

    all the time when I was a kid. We even have a license plate from there. (I guess it's some kind of souvenir, but it looks official.)

    He worked for the government and Wake was one of the places he traveled to regularly for "business."

    What business he did there, I could not tell you, because he never told me.

    I have no idea what happens there these days. Not a lot, I'm guessing. That's very sad. If it is washed out completely, that will be one more memory from my childhood that no longer exists.

  •  Super-typhoon Sarah struck Wake (1+ / 0-)

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    Island of Sept 16, 1967.  I was there.  Another typhoon, Olive, hit Wake exactly fifteen years before.  I met a man on Wake who went through both Olive and Sarah.

    Ioke, Sarah, and Olive have so far been remarkably similiar in the paths they've taken - passing south of Johnston Island as hurricanes before crossing the dateline, thus becoming typhoons, then heading over Wake.  I admit I don't know whether Ioke passed directly over Wake - the other two did.

    Wake Island was an important stop for the Pan American China Clippers before World War II. It was a refueling stop for flights crossing the Pacific later, especially during the Korean and Vietnam Wars.  Bob Hope would conduct dress rehearsals for his USO shows on Wake before heading to Korea or Vietnam.  I quite literally almost ran into Raquel Welch, missing a collision by inches, sprinting to get a peak of Bob's show.

    It's a small place, but there are some of us with fond memories of it.  I met my wife there.

  •  Wake is an atoll (2+ / 0-)

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    It is the remains of an active coral reef that sits barely above sea level - a huge mass of dead and some living coral.

    It may or not disappear as the land above sea level is very low and waves may simply pass over it without doing too much damage.  There is very little except for manmade structures and scrub that will be affected by wind.

    Wake was not regularly inhabited until the transpacific airlines like Pan American used it as a stopover.  It also had some military use and the Civil Aviation Agency (precursor to the FAA) maintained a tower and communications station.  Lack of water and arable land are the main reasons it was never really settled.  Today, only the Air Force has any personnel assigned there.

    I lived there as a child for one year when my father was posted with the CAA.

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