LA Times reports ABC going ahead with 9/11 Drama

Trying to organize a boycott and opposition on Wednesday to Friday for a show that starts Sunday was asking a bit too much.

http://www.calendarlive.com/...

Suggest we discuss ways of contacting local stations and other media to publicize factual errors in the show, the conservative activism of the writers and the FBI consultant who dropped out.

•  I'll be working with local activists

  Probably at least a letter to the editor campaign and see if we can get some Democratic office holders to ask for time on a news feature.

  by eleming on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 12:32:56 AM PDT

  •  i dare them to go ahead

    and vow to keep emailing and calling.

    anyone advertising with abc is shaking in their boots right now.

    by tlh lib on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 12:41:10 AM PDT

    •  No direct sponsor of this falsehood

      Advertising will only be a few companies that made huge purchases to run on all or nearly all prime-time ABC show.  There will be two-thirds fewer commercials than normal.  

      How many Disney/ABC officers are there on the weekend?

      Your local stations may be the best bet.

      Or hit them a blizzard of calls and emails Monday.

      by eleming on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 12:53:21 AM PDT

      •  you totally miss the point

        anyone who advertises on abc, nationally AND locally, is the new subject of a massive boycott.

        this show is irrelevant in terms of who advertises.  abc and their affiliates get their revenue mainly from advertisers.   when companies don't want to lose money by becoming the target of a boycott then they put less money into that place and more in others..... that is point.

        read this diary....before you make further comment on what i've said....

        by tlh lib on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 12:59:23 AM PDT

      •  So?

        If they're going to run this, then I'm going to go after them. Boycott them all. Support their competitors. And tell them so. Anyone on ABC / Disney / ESPN / A&E / whatever I don't care. Call the FCC. Lobby Congress. Scorched earth. The mouse must pay.

        by pb on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 01:00:20 AM PDT

      •  the show is commercial-free

        but that's ok, it means all ABC advertisers take the heat, not just the ones who sponsor this particular show.

        by clyde on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 01:11:22 AM PDT

    •  Exactly- make them regret it

      Imagine the reaction of their advertisers when they're still getting emails about it 6 months from now.  

      by bosdcla14 on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 01:04:36 AM PDT

      •  They can hear from you in 5 or 10 minutes

        Smack their ratigs down during this crucial new show season and hit them in their post-Emmy wallets!
        Protest details here - Vote with your remote!

        It only takes a few minutes form you comfy armchair and it's fun! Please recommend the diary so we can get some ratings held hostage until they agree not to air PT911.

        by a lynn on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 01:15:18 AM PDT

        •  That's a great idea n/t

          by bosdcla14 on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 03:52:20 AM PDT

  •  Edited title (nc)

    by eleming on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 01:51:46 AM PDT

•  Iger's email: [e-mail]

  Use it.  Please.

  They gotta drop this travesty.

  Din

  by Dinaelurus illumina on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 12:42:26 AM PDT

  •  Thanks for the email addy. Here's my ...

    letter of outrage:

    Never would I have believed that Disney and ABC would stoop to the level it has by broadcasting the maliciously false, flagrantly defamatory, and blatantly slanderous program falsely titled "Path to 9/11."  You, as CEO of this conglomerate, are ultimately responsible for this fiasco.

    It is contrary to American values to distort history, sir.  It is counter to American ethics to engage in unsubstantiated, libelous propaganda.  That was a tactic of the former Soviet Union in the Joseph Stalin era or the diabolical disinformation campaigns of Nazi propagandist Josef Goebbels.  It does not belong in America.

    What Disney/ABC is doing is despicable, deserving of the most severe condemnation.  You have stooped to depths lower than even Fox News could have conjured up.  You deserve this nation's vilification.  I certainly revile your decision to run this fabricated account.  How can you be so unfeeling, so cruel, so inhuman?  The people slaughtered in the 9/11 attacks don't deserve to have their memory tainted by such a vile depiction wrongly claiming to chronicle the events leading to that dastardly day.

    You have it in your power to stop this travesty.  The American thing to do would be to withdraw it before you, personally, are held to account for this scurrilous depiction.

    by SamCDC on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 07:08:31 AM PDT

•  I will honor my boycott pledge....

  against ABC, Disney and any of their affiliates, products and services......forever.

  by Rex Manning on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 01:01:33 AM PDT

  •  Columbia Journalism Review says this is

    Disney:

    Film

    Walt Disney Pictures

    Touchstone Pictures

    Hollywood Pictures

    Miramax Films
    Buena Vista Home Entertainment

    Pixar  

    Broadcast Television

    ABC Network
    
    Owned and Operated Television Stations
    
       * WLS - Chicago
       * WJRT - Flint
       * KFSN - Fresno
       * KTRK - Houston
       * KABC - Los Angeles
       * WABC - New York City
       * WPVI - Philadelphia
       * WTVD - Raleigh - Durham
       * KGO - San Francisco
       * WTVG - Toledo
    
    Cable Television

    ESPN
    ABC Family
    Disney Channel
    Toon Disney
    SOAPnet
    Lifetime Network (partial)
    A&E (partial)

    E! (partial)

    Radio
    ABC Radio

       * WKHX – Atlanta
       * WYAY – Atlanta
       * WDWD – Atlanta
       * WMVP – Chicago
       * WLS – Chicago
       * WZZN – Chicago
       * WRDZ – Chicago
       * WBAP – Dallas
       * KSCS – Dallas
       * KMEO – Dallas
       * KESN – Dallas
       * KMKI – Dallas
       * WDRQ – Detroit
       * WJR – Detroit
       * WDVD – Detroit
       * KABC – Los Angeles
       * KLOS – Los Angeles
       * KDIS – Los Angeles
       * KSPN – Los Angeles
       * KQRS – Minneapolis - St. Paul
       * KXXR – Minneapolis - St. Paul
       * KDIZ – Minneapolis - St. Paul
       * WGVX – Minneapolis - St. Paul
       * WGVY – Minneapolis - St. Paul
       * WGVZ – Minneapolis - St. Paul
       * WABC – New York City
       * WPLJ – New York City
       * WQEW – New York City
       * WEVD – New York City
       * KGO – San Francisco
       * KSFO – San Francisco
       * KIID – Sacramento
       * KMKY – Oakland
       * WMAL – Washington DC
       * WJZW – Washington DC
       * WRQX – Washington DC
       * KQAM – Wichita
       * KKDZ – Seattle
       * WSDZ – St. Louis
       * WWMK – Cleveland
       * KMIX – Phoenix
       * KADZ – Denver
       * KDDZ – Denver
       * WWMI – Tampa
       * KMIC – Houston
       * WMYM – Miami
       * WWJZ – Philadelphia
       * WMKI – Boston
       * WDZK – Hartford
       * WDDZ – Providence
       * WDZY – Richmond
       * WGFY – Charlotte
       * WDYZ – Orlando
       * WMNE – West Palm Beach
       * WEAE – Pittsburgh
       * WDRD – Louisville
       * WPPY – Albany, NY
       * KPHN – Kansas City
       * WQUA – Mobile
       * WBML – Jacksonville
       * WFDF – Flint
       * WFRO – Fremont, OH
       * WDMV – Damascus, MD
       * WHKT – Norfolk Radio Disney
       * ESPN Radio (syndicated programming

    Music
    

    Buena Vista Music Group
    Walt Disney Records
    Hollywood Records
    Lyric Street Records

    
    Publishing

    Book Publishing Imprints

             o Hyperion
                   + Miramax BooksESPN BooksTheiaABC Daytime PressHyperion Audiobooks
                   + Hyperion East
       * Disney Publishing Worldwide
                   + Cal Publishing Inc.
                   + CrossGen
       * Hyperion Books for Children
                         # Jump at the SunVolo
                         # Michael di Caupa Books
                   + Disney Global Children's Books
                         # Disney PressGlobal Retail
                         # Global Continuity
    
    Magazine titles include:

       * Automotive Industries
       * Biography (with GE and Hearst)
       * Discover
       * Disney Adventures
       * Disney Magazine
       * ECN News
       * ESPN Magazine (distributed by Hearst)
       * Family Fun
       * Institutional Investor
       * JCK
       * Kodin
       * Top Famille - French family magazine
       * US Weekly (50%)
       * Video Business
       * Quality

    
    Parks and Resorts

    Disneyland Resort

    Walt Disney World Resort

    Tokyo Disney Resort

    Disneyland Resort Paris

    Hong Kong Disneyland

    
    Other
    Buena Vista Theatrical Productions
    The Disney Store
    Disney Cruise Line
    ESPN Zone
    Disney Toys
    The Baby Einstein Company
    Walt Disney Internet Group

    last updated 6/27/06

    Columbia Journalism Review at Columbia University's Graduate School of Journalism

    by tlh lib on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 01:23:02 AM PDT

    •  I have started taking the list of assets...

      ... and posting the items with info and contact addresses/numbers if I can find them in the Big List. I can't do it fast enough on my own though.

      If anyone wants to help, I would appreciate that.

      =====
      Helpful info for action:
      Path to 9/11 - Big List of Action Contacts

      by highacidity on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 01:43:56 AM PDT

      •  wow

        post that diary again.  it should be at the top of the recommended list with a title (i'm horrible at titles) that will get attention.    wish i could give that 50 recommends....awesome compilation that needs to be at the top.

        post it again...daily.

        by tlh lib on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 01:58:09 AM PDT

        •  I think I would get in trouble...

          ... don't you think?

          by highacidity on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:08:53 AM PDT

          •  no way.....not at all

            you can update it nicely....there's only a gazillion diaries a day to add to your contact listings....

            it's an action diary on a live time-sensitive issue.....simply add any new contacts and post it....

            or don't add any new contacts...and post it again....

            no way would anyone have an issue with that....it's one of the few accepted exceptions to that rule done every time there is a major action going on.

            post it daily..... add more contacts especially though if you can garner them from the diaries posted.

            by tlh lib on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:14:48 AM PDT

            •  I garner them from diaries, comments...

              .... and a lot of research. Which is what I need help with.

              Can you help? Even a little bit is good.

              I'll post it again in an hour, let's see what happens :-)

              by highacidity on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:21:04 AM PDT

              •  i've been hanging by a thread of

                being awake for a couple of hours now.... i need sleep...can hardly keep my eyes open at this point.

                i'll help tomorrow, or today as it is.

                this is the first time i've seen your diary.... it really needs to be on the rec list.   unfortunately i'm hardly able to keep my eyes open right now.  i'll do what i can later.

                thanks for puttin that together.   i've made some calls, sent some emails, but i need to do more....

                an aside.....i don't understand why advertisers haven't been focused upon more here....that is the heart bullseye to target imo.

                goodnight and good luck with the reposting.....

                by tlh lib on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:30:51 AM PDT

                •  Thanks for your kind words...

                  and your work.

                  I don't watch TV so I can't help with the advertisers too much, but I have a link to one diary with some of those.

                  Get some sleep! I should do that too.

                  by highacidity on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:35:02 AM PDT

                  •   Coultergeist Exposed!!!!

                     
                    Just saw Kristen Breitweiser on a rebroadcast of last nite's Larry King, and now I get it!!!

                    As the Evildoers behind this crapalooza surveyed the field for potential opposition, they knew how to attack and discredit the usual suspects.  They saw one group, however, that possessed what they considered a deadly combination of intense factual knowledge of the issues and a moral high ground based not only on their status, but on their commitment and integrity as well--the "Jersey Girls".  

                    They, as much as anyone, after, had spearheaded the successful effort to create the 9/11 Commission and, even worse for Scaife and his poo-throwing minions, liked to depend on despicable things like facts and truth.  

                    Yes, they must clearly be undermined, but how?  For a man to attack them would be unseemly at best....Hey, how about Coultergeist???  She's a bestseller, gets her Adam's apple all over tv, and would probably even enjoy it.  Talk about your media whores!!!!

                    Well, she did it, the world was stunned, not understanding at the time her secret motivation, but it really didn't work that well.  Anyone w/a mind or a conscience was repulsed, and there was Kristen last nite, determined as ever, sincere, bright, and credible as ever, and we will win over these Evil Troglodytes!!!!

                    U go, Kristen!!!!!

                    by serrano on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 03:28:47 AM PDT

    •  Thanks for that.

      I'll print it out.

      by Rex Manning on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 11:52:49 AM PDT

•  Two things here...

  First, if they're going forward and they haven't removed the slander or properly disclaimed it as pure fiction, Albright et al. should bring out the lawyers posthaste. Second, there goes Thomas Kean still defending this tripe again. We trusted him as 9/11 Commissioner and he appeared bipartisan. But now, in a craven attempt to get Junior elected in NJ, the luster comes off his service to the country. He stands as one more partisan Bushie hack with no intellectual honesty intact. It kind of gives me the same sick feeling I had about the one part of our government I always trusted, the Supreme Court, when they threw off all honor, turned their back on their country and like a group of partisan kingmakers elected a President whom the people voted against. Oh and get a load of this from the buffoon Kean, when commenting on the uproar over PT9/11, "frankly, its the blogosphere." I hope the "blogosphere" has a big hand in getting Junior defeated two months hence.  

  by EdSF on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 01:03:04 AM PDT

  •  Lawyers

    On my emails and PT911 blog posting to ABC I said that ABC should have their lawyers ready cause a number of people they defame will likely sue.

    I never trusted Kean or even the 9/11 Commission Democrats.  They were chosen by the Bush White House to whitewash their incompetence.  As it was, the GOP members issued a separate report smearing Wilson and other items the conservative Democratics couldn't agree with.

    by eleming on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 01:11:31 AM PDT

•  Just to let you guys know...

  This propaganda piece will be shown WORLDWIDE.

  You may see the Clinton-bashing European trailer HERE.

  by STOP George on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 01:19:28 AM PDT

  •  Pre-planned Centerpiece for 2006 elections?

    As other dairies have pointed out, this production was financially launched by Scaife, Horowitz and a far right Christian group.  It also ties in perfectly with their terrorism and 9/11 and "it was all Clinton's fault anyway"  theme for this fall.

    by eleming on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 01:35:01 AM PDT

    •  I have suspected Scaife

      but I haven't seen anything but speculation to asociate him with this.

      by Elwood Dowd on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 04:25:46 AM PDT

  •  Oh shit.

    You have got to be kidding me... I know you aren't.

    Can we stop this cabal from doing anything? I am discouraged.

    by highacidity on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 01:45:28 AM PDT

    •  Unfortunatly,

      I think we have simply run out of time. This is set to air on Sunday.

      by Vera Lofaro on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:56:05 AM PDT

•  Get out of my head!

  Suggest we discuss ways of contacting local stations and other media to publicize factual errors in the show, the conservative activism of the writers and the FBI consultant who dropped out.

  I was just thinking of diarying this.  I think I still will.  It'll be a "Plan B/Here's what we do now" type of diary...just in case.  I think it's important that we prepare for everything.

  Because of the coverage Daily Kos gets, I suggest we do a collaborative diary about the documentary docudrama propaganda.  We could fact check it, with each person taking on a 15, 20, or 30 minute section of the propaganda.  Then, someone with editing skills can put it all together.  After both episodes/parts have aired, we SEND - IT - EVERYWHERE!  The diary can be prefaced by mentioning what eleming wrote; that even conservatives wanted the film pulled because of its falsehoods and two FBI agents didn't want anything to do with it once they realized it was full of lies. Then we send it to all the Democratic organizations, every newspaper, TV station, or whatever. One (if not some) will pick it up and run with it...hopefully.

  Then, the boycott.  deaniac83 has an excellent list of advertisers.  Add to that alternative products/services, and we're good to go.  I think it's very important to give people alternatives.  If someone has eaten Subway for years and years, but it's on the list to boycott, it'll be very helpful to list some other chains that offer similar products/services.

  But as everyone has said, keep calling and emailing until Monday night.  Fill up everyone's voice mail we have a number for.  Email them until their servers beg for mercy.  We won't stop.  We can't stop.
  
  And that's all I have to say about that.

  by cowgirl on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 01:30:51 AM PDT

•  It COULD be a GOOD thing!

  Follow my logic ...

  The people who already believe, regardless of evidence, aren't going to have their minds changed.

  Because of the furor, already in evidence, regarding this show, if it actually gets broadcast, we know that the furor will immediately increase exponentially.

  What will be the effect?

  The people who haven't really paid that much attention, for whatever reasons, will now be innundated with media coverage with the details of the discrepancies receiving more & more attention. The disgusting nature of the slanders will become more & more evident. This will result in a backlash among these voters, & other non-voters, who don't generally pay that much attention.

  To summarize: The intensity of the response if this film is broadcast will serve to highlight the initial & ongoing deceptions & general sleaziness of this administration with a clarity & level of detail which, as we all know, has been missing (for the most part) from the MSM coverage ever since 9/11.

  Now ... some people say, "What is this Turtle smoking?"

  In the interest of full disclosure, I must confess that I am powered by Gunpowder Hash from Stix. (I further confess that I have fantasies about being molested by Rick Santorum! Maybe even having a threesome with him & John Cornyn!)

  Nevertheless, I keep thinking over & over that this is the fatal mistake, the fatal misunderestimating, from which there will be no recovery!

  That's my prediction, fwiw!
  
  

  by Pope Bandar bin Turtle on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:08:34 AM PDT

  •  I'll Take Some Of That Hash

    I believe in the Voltaire approach to free speech. May not agree with what you say but will defend your right to the death to say it. Voltaire should have added that  you can reserve the right to tell the speaker that they  are full of shit up to their eyeballs.

    I remember watching the Hitler propaganda films in college with a critical eye going in. Many non-partisans will be watching it, prepared to deconstruct the right wing version of history as they never have before.

    Of course that could be the hash. There are probably many non-partisan dumbasses who will watch it and be ready to lynch Clinton, Berger and Albright.

    by HL Mungo on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:31:54 AM PDT

    •  Agreed!

      I left out that the rw will also, obviously, ratchet up in response, triggering another response, ad infinitum.

      As you said:

      Many non-partisans will be watching it, prepared to deconstruct the right wing version of history as they never have before.

      It's the non-partisans who will be instrumental in accomplishing this swing.

      It's fascinating to watch, regardless!

      [Virtual toke being sent to you now! Best I can do, helas!!]
      
      

      by Pope Bandar bin Turtle on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 03:31:17 AM PDT

  •  You may be right

    I can't even explain how angry that I am over this shit.  I only expect my anger to grow.  

    by daisy democrat on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 05:26:43 AM PDT

•  More Important Than Not Letting It Air...

  is completely discrediting it in the minds of the public. With enough news stories about the controversy, many will watch this conservative wet dream of what transpired from 1993-2001 with a critical eye. I'm hoping that many non-partisans will watch it with the conservative narrative already deconstructed.

  Personally, I would like to see ABC feel comfortable airing it along with feeling comfortable in airing Moore's F911. Just tell people that it is a biased version of events and forget telling people that is based on the 9-11 report and getting Scholastic Inc. to cooperate with it. The dishonesty of the marketing is criminal.

  by HL Mungo on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:22:19 AM PDT

•  F ABC

  Well, i hope they took all those lies out of the movie but im still upset they will move forward on this crap.

  No democrats should take money from abc,,,ABC are losers

  by Maria19Rodriguez on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 03:08:22 AM PDT

•  Just thought of something

  If they edit out just the two or three worst offenses to the truth (which seems likely now),

  1. It will create conceptual gaps in a plot line that is already pretty scattered.

  2. Take away 30 million dollars worth of propaganda. The financers aren't going to feel they got much of a bang for their buck.

  by Fishgrease on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 04:02:08 AM PDT

•  We Could Have Stopped It.

  http://www.dailykos.com/...

  Upshot - It's a runaway production (aka outsourcing).  Too many people wanted to discuss 1st Amendment ramifications instead (there are none - libel & slander aren't protected).  Oh, well.

  by tkmattson on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 05:38:30 AM PDT

•  This is priceless

  Kean, in an interview Friday, continued to defend the movie as a "first-class project," adding that although the filmmakers took the recent criticisms seriously and made adjustments when warranted, much of the hostile reaction was political grandstanding from partisans who had seen little if any of the film. "That's the blogosphere, frankly," Kean said of the controversy.

  by Naturegal on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 05:51:49 AM PDT