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Nancy Pelosi has just become the first woman in the history of the United States to be elected Speaker of the House, the first woman to be [second] in the line of succession to the Presidency.

And how do the country's major papers opinion pages handle this historic moment? They don't. No mention at the LA Times, and WaPo features another George Will set of prevarications running the gambit from the New Deal worsening the Depression to the fact that minimum wage workers really aren't poor.

Actually, the NYT does feature a column about Nancy Pelosi, from the always odious David Brooks, this time adding a dash of sexism to his usual drivel.

Some people believe that Pelosi is an airhead, but that is wrong. Some people believe she is a radical San Francisco liberal, but that, too, is wrong. The main fact to know about Pelosi is that she is a creature of the modern fund-raising system. Some politicians rise because they run political machines. Some rise because they are great communicators. Pelosi has risen because she is a master of the thousand-dollar-a-plate fundraising circuit....

She paid her dues selecting party favors, arranging seating charts (after that, legislation is easy), and laying thick dollops of obsequiousness on cranky old moguls and their helmet hair spa-spouses. She has done what all political fund-raisers do: tell rich people things they already believe, demonize the other side, motivate the giving with Manichaean tales of good versus evil.

Airhead? Party planner? Thank you, Mr. Brooks, for so minimizing the achievements of this talented politician. Would David Brooks ever discuss another, male politician in these terms? Would David Brooks ever ask if a prominent Republican, say George Bush, was an airhead? If he got to where he is in politics because of his name, his family connections, his money?

One paper, fittingly Ms. Pelosi's hometown paper, the San Francisco Chronicle rightly recognizes the import:

NANCY PELOSI'S election as speaker of the House will bring a moment of history today, to be followed by 100 hours of furious legislative activity.

First, let's pause to recognize the historic significance of the first woman and first Californian to assume a position that will put her second in succession to the presidency of the United States....

There is an aura of high expectation about Pelosi's ascension in the San Francisco Bay Area, not only because of what her role means for this region's clout in the nation's capital, but also because her dignity and capabilities are so well known here. Pelosi has represented San Francisco in Congress since 1987. As a rank-and-file member and more recently as Democratic leader, Pelosi has proved adept at building alliances with a charm undergirded by the toughness and shrewdness of a veteran who has navigated the shark-infested political waters of San Francisco.

Congratulations, Speaker Pelosi, for your past successes and for your historic achievement today. While the media seems loathe to recognize this historic moment, we celebrate it.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:43 AM PST.

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  •  Some People Think (24+ / 0-)

    Brooks is a f#cking d#che bag and an idiotic @sshole, but I don't think so...


    Maybe I do...

    "Uncle Fredo's gone fishing, son...yeah, that's it..."

    by TheManWithNoPoint on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:34:22 AM PST

  •  House Speaker (2+ / 0-)
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    potownman, Trial Lawyer Richard

    The House Republicans screw up again. They should have used Diebold machines for the vote and Boner would be speaker. That was an intentional mis-spelling. Why would anyone pay attention to David Brooks? He is a columnist for crissakes!

  •  Not First Ever in Line, but first this close (12+ / 0-)

    "... the first woman to be in the line of succession to the Presidency."

    Um, isn't that overstating it a bit?  Isn't the Secretary of State first in line in the Cabinet?  So Condi is in line, after the VP, Speaker of the House and President Pro Tem of the Senate.

    So Ms. Pelosi is the woman highest ever in the line of succession to the Presidency of the USA.

    •  good call (1+ / 0-)
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      very true

      Blog this! Visit me at K Street Blues. It will change your life. (Actual life-changing not a guarantee.)

      by AggieDemocrat on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:38:10 AM PST

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      •  hi mcjoan (0+ / 0-)

        (if you remember me, I actually made it on the phone in with you Maryscott and umm...I forgot the third one; Diane form Michigan via MLW)

        It is a momumental occasion.  The msm,of course plays it down.  Democrats are beneath mention, except in scorn to them, and a woman Dem even moreso.

        I think Ms Pelosi is savvy and able.  Whilst some denounce her saying "impeachment is off the table" any person of any political prowess knows why she did this.  IF impeachment happens it has to be a indirect result of impartial investigations that cannot be avoided from the information found thereof.  Anything else brands us witch-hunters.

        That said, my dear, congrats to us all, and kudos to Ms Pelosi.

        I think, therefore I rant. Economic Left/Right: -8.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.03

        by wiretapthis on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:38:54 AM PST

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    •  You type faster than me... (1+ / 0-)
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      Ms. Pelosi is also the first woman in a Constitutional office.

      Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt

      by Phoenix Rising on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:40:14 AM PST

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    •  but according the the First Lady (4+ / 0-)

      of Vehicular Manslaughter

      condi CANT be president cause she is single, an only child and an orphan\

      go drive your car and kill people Laura

      He may talk like an idiot, and look like an idiot, but don't let that fool you: he really is an idiot. Send him back to his father and brothers...

      by distributorcap on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:43:09 AM PST

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      •  Not quite (2+ / 0-)
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        The Gryffin, distributorcap

        She can't CAMPAIGN.  If they hand her the office, she should be good to go.  ;o)

        When you are going through hell, keep going! - Winston Churchill

        by flo58 on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:48:16 AM PST

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        •  but the car-crash murderer (0+ / 0-)

          says you CANT have the job...
          read her words

          The President also said there is no doubt in his mind that a woman candidate could be president, and the First Lady agreed.  Mrs. Bush referenced Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and noted that while she would be a "really good candidate", Rice is not interested in the job.

          "Probably because she is single, her parents are no longer living, she's an only child.  You need a very supportive family and supportive friends to have this job," the First Lady said.

          so acc'd to Stepford-bitch Laura, Condi would have to resign if handed the job

          i hate that whole family

          He may talk like an idiot, and look like an idiot, but don't let that fool you: he really is an idiot. Send him back to his father and brothers...

          by distributorcap on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:04:06 AM PST

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      •  I'm totally missing this reference. (2+ / 0-)
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        What's this? I'd appreciate if somebody could give me a synopsis or a quick link. Thanks!

        With great jackassery comes great responsibility...Jackass!

        by The Gryffin on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:50:37 AM PST

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    •  That Used to be True (0+ / 0-)

      I will have to look through some old stuff but I recall that this line of successsion was changed when I was in grade school in the 1950's.  The reasoning was that the Speaker is an elected offical and the members of the Cabinet are not.

    •  The first woman.... (0+ / 0-)

      to be second in line for the presidency was, believe it or not, Madeline Albright, who as Secretary of State, moved up the line of succession in 1997 and '99 because the Congress decided to start a few days late, as it did this year. Condi Rice was second in line for a whole day and a half (the old one having expired at midnight Jan. 2nd). She was also the first African American to be that close.

      •  I'm sorry, I made a mistake. (0+ / 0-)

        Ms. Albright, having been born in Czechoslovakia, was passed over in the Line of Succession, therefore Condi Rice was the first woman to be second in line to the presidency....carry on.

        •  Third in line (0+ / 0-)

          The president of the Senate, now Robert Byrd, formerly that creepy buzzard, Ted Stephens, is after the Speaker of the House.  Then, it's the Secretary of State.

          So, right now it goes:

          Paulson (Treasury)
          Gates (Defense)
          Gonzalez (AG - shudder)

          Then you have to bypass Commerce and Interior, because neither of them were born here, and it goes on from there.

          •  Yeah, but not in January (0+ / 0-)

            The old congress expires on January second, and until the new one gets sworn in, there are no officers in either branch of congress. So, for a single day, Condi Rice was second in line.

            NOW she's fourth, but that wasn't true yesterday morning.

    •  Frances Perkins (0+ / 0-)

      probably was the first woman in line for the presidency, as she was the first woman Cabinet Officer under FDR.

  •  CNN showed GOP press conference (24+ / 0-)

    Repubicans held a press conference to complain that they were already being shut out of the governing process by Democrats.

    Did the media ever voice Democrats' complaints over the last several years?

    I don't remember seeing any Democratic congressional press conferences regarding the abuse they suffered as the minority party.

  •  Congrats to Pelosi ofcourse (13+ / 0-)

    But congrats most of all to all you crazy, leftist, whack-job Democrats who took the first step today in taking back your country!

    Here's to the new Democratic Congress--may they do the people's business.



    -7.63, -4.77 | "Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects." -- Lester B Pearson

    by whytwolf on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:36:56 AM PST

    •  It only took 220 years! (3+ / 0-)
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      A woman finally heads one of the branches of government.  And thank you to mcjoan for pointing this out!

      It has been 230 years since the Declaration of Independence declared all (white) men equal;  220 since the Constitution established three branches of government;  143 since slavery was outlawed;  and 87 years since women got the right to vote.  

      It is about time, wouldn't you say?!!!

      You go girl!

      When you are going through hell, keep going! - Winston Churchill

      by flo58 on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:03:27 AM PST

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  •  As joelpatterson points out (3+ / 0-)

    One of the right-wing talking points in Brooks' column is a whopper.  Pelosi was never "chauffered," or at least there are no articles on Lexis Nexis saying that she did.  Will we see a NYT correction?

    Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done. Louis D. Brandeis

    by pontificator on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:37:15 AM PST

  •  I have chills (26+ / 0-)

    I worked for a powerful House committee for several years, and I spent a lot of time on the House floor as a staffer, and I am riveted to the TV right now.  Over 20 years ago, I went to a meeting in the Speaker's office, representing my committee chairman, and as I was the only woman in the room, Speaker O'Neill apparently assumed I was a secretary and asked me to get coffee for him.  He was quickly corrected by a Congressman who knew me from his work with my committee, and the Speaker was quite embarrassed.  But I can't help thinking about that moment right now, watching Pelosi and hearing all the old lions - Rangel, Dingell, Murtha - vote loud and proud for a woman to be the Speaker.

    I'm extremely proud.

    But, I'm still trying to figure out where missing votes are - shouldn't there be 8 more?

  •  Just curious How many Republicans voted for (14+ / 0-)

    Speaker Pelosi in the spirit of Bipartisanship?

    That's what I thought.  Carry on.

    "War can't give life, it can only take it away..It's got one friend, that's the undertaker..." Edwin Starr

    by Barry Welsh on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:38:15 AM PST

  •  Congratulations, Speaker Pelosi! (3+ / 0-)
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    AggieDemocrat, flo58, TomP

    A technical correction: Condi Rice is in the line of succession as Secretary of State.  Madeline Albright preceeded her in that light.  Other women have been further down the line in the past...

    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt

    by Phoenix Rising on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:38:20 AM PST

  •  You didn't expect anything else, did you? (3+ / 0-)

    Brooks can't be having a good day today.

    ...not that I'm upset about that.

    To think is easy. To act is difficult. To act as one thinks is the most difficult of all -Goethe

    by commonscribe on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:38:48 AM PST

  •  Is it weird that I'm crying at work? (16+ / 0-)

    This is insanely exciting.

    Any force that tries to make you feel shame for being who you a form of tyranny... And it must be rejected, resisted, and defeated. ~Al Gore

    by Sinister Rae on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:38:50 AM PST

  •  Thank You For Front-Paging This (15+ / 0-)


    This is truly an historic day for our nation.  More than 225 years after its founding, the People's House is going to be led by a woman.  A smart, capable, compassionate and savvy woman at that.

    I got tears in my eyes when I saw Pelosi sitting in the chamber of the House with her granddaughter on her lap.  I only wish my own daughter were old enough to understand how special this event is.

    Here's hoping we see the innaguaration of our first woman president - whomever she may be - some day soon.

    Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. -8.75 / -6.10

    by Alegre on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:39:20 AM PST

  •  Amazing (10+ / 0-)

    Simply amazing. And look for more of that same sexist drivel to come out in ensuing coverage of her tenure as Speaker.

    And, while you're at it, for whenever Hillary announces.

    Damn them womenfolk! Don't they know they should be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen and stop worrying their pretty little heads about man's stuff like politics?

    Blog this! Visit me at K Street Blues. It will change your life. (Actual life-changing not a guarantee.)

    by AggieDemocrat on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:39:32 AM PST

  •  Thank you McJoan (9+ / 0-)

    Congratulations to Pelosi! A proud moment for women and women's rights, and the American media just cannot see it.

    The media is making it obvious today that they are not on the side of America or the nation's founding ideals. Whoever runs today's corporate media (including a certain AUSTRALIAN) are clearly showing they are NOT for equality for all, NOT for progress of humanity, and have not a chivalric bone in their bloated overpaid bodies.

    The right-wing owns the media, and the same media are clearly on the side of establishment.

    The media has become the problem.

    "The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance my deride it, but in the end, there it is." Winston Churchill

    by J Royce on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:39:43 AM PST

  •  it's been noted in Greece (14+ / 0-)

    I'm in Athens, and both local media and CNN int'l are noting the first.

    Int'l media doing a better job of covering US politics than US media?

    Now that wouldn't be a first, would it?

  •  Announcement has been made! (8+ / 0-)

    Clerk is breaking up ... thanks Kos and McJoan for putting this on page 1!

    If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things better for people coming behind you, and you don't are wasting your time...R Clemente

    by Red State Rebel on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:40:03 AM PST

  •  For what it's worth (10+ / 0-)

    Nancy Pelosi and the Dems are the top story on the front page of

    So yeah, the first woman speaker in the great American democracy, an historic event on so many levels, is big news!  It's just that it's confined to places where women actually matter!!

    God, on what should be a happy day, I feel so furious about so many things right now.

  •  What appalling drivel (8+ / 0-)

    I swear, this country is still a knuckle-dragging haven for all of the -isms.

    Party planner.  That is so supremely insulting.  

    Closed minds should come with closed mouths.

    by Pennsylvanian on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:40:29 AM PST

  •  Makes me wish I could turn on The Real News (2+ / 0-)
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    Loquatrix, kml

    and see what they would have to say. What's The Real News, you ask? Why, just see my diary, "We'll go where the facts take us": Interview with Paul Jay, IWT/The Real News, Part 3. It links to Parts 1 and 2. Send me a note if you'd like to be notified when I post Parts 4 (tonight) and 5 (tomorrow): alanfordean AT-SIGN yahoo DOT com.

  •  SF Chron piece not written by Mark Sandalow (4+ / 0-)
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    tmo, AlanF, Far left coast, J Royce

    The SF piece is decent because it's not written by their Wahsington Bureau chief Mark Sandalow, who has in the past put negative spin on Demos at every opportunity.

  •  Not just in line (3+ / 0-)
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    Ed in Montana, potownman, truthbeauty

    but considering the grievous criminal acts of the Bush administration, she would quickly become president if justice were to occur.

    You can't get away with the crunch, 'cuz the crunch always gives you away

    by dnamj on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:41:50 AM PST

  •  Thanks for front paging this. (7+ / 0-)

    It's a major milestone for women's history in this country.  And it's not getting enough airtime.

    You're soooo right to note the difference between how they will attack a woman Democrat vs. a man Democrat in the speaker role.  I've even seen commentary today of what she wore being swore in "She's so stylish."  Oooooo, goodie, can I buy that suit, too?

  •  What a prick (4+ / 0-)

    David Brooks will never have that much power, not even if he had a 12 inch penis.  
    I know he doesn't believe that Pelosi got to be where she is today because she can arrange a swell centerpiece.  He just can't figure out how a woman managed to get so far in the fat-ass patriarchical society he and his smug buddies set up since the nineties.  
    Yeah, Brooks, we have your number.  
    Bite me.  

    -3.63, -4.46 "Choose something like a star to stay your mind on- and be staid"

    by goldberry on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:42:10 AM PST

  •  Well... 'Yahoo!' news has it fronted. (3+ / 0-)
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    JTML, mspicata, J Royce

    Not a bad piece, I thought.

    Russ Feingold: cooler than Batman.

    by yojimbo on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:42:34 AM PST

  •  The Baltimore Sun (7+ / 0-) covering it, but then, she's a hometown girl.

    Friday begins with an open house event across from the Capitol. Then she heads to Baltimore, where the street where she grew up in Little Italy is being dedicated in her honor: Nancy D'Alesandro Pelosi Via.

    Pelosi was raised there, the daughter of New Deal Maryland congressman Thomas D'Alesandro, who later became the city's mayor. She didn't run for the House herself until 1987 after marrying wealthy businessman Paul Pelosi, moving to San Francisco and raising her children.

    You measure a democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists. -- Abbie Hoffman

    by frostyinPA on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:42:50 AM PST

  •  She IS on the LA TImes front page (5+ / 0-)
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    tmo, Caldonia, curtadams, J Royce, TomP

    The article may not come up first on the website, but my morning paper had a front page picture of Speaker Pelosi felxing her muscles!  Together with a front page article that specifically talks about the historic nature of her acendency.  So don't trash the Times quite yet... they did do a good job.

  •  Our Corporate News is Irrelevant. (3+ / 0-)

    Their "News" isn't as good as ours.

    We should be getting their salaries, and they should be working for free.

    Disseminating corporate propaganda is not something journalists should be paid to do.

    We should be getting their salaries, cause they sure as hell don't deserve them.

  •  On the Today Show this morning (9+ / 0-)

    On this historic occasion of the 1st woman Speaker of the House who did they choose to interview?  Why John McCain of course!  I couldn't believe it.  On the lead in, Merideth did say that as a woman, she was very proud, but Matt/McCain was an entire segment.

    Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare!

    by 1040SU on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:43:42 AM PST

  •  From the House website (10+ / 0-)

    The House website has a "what's happening on the Floor right now" feature...This was pretty sweet:


    1:43 P.M. -
    Roll call 2 - Election of the Speaker Ms. Pelosi 233, Mr. Boehner 202. Ms. Pelosi was elected Speaker of the House.

    •  First time since 1999 (6+ / 0-)

      that no member of the house voted against their party's candidate for Speaker.

      From 2001 to 2005, Gene Taylor voted for John Murtha over Gephardt and Pelosi.

      Traficant voted for Hastert in 2001, and lost all his committee assignments.

      Hall, Lucas, and Stenholm voted present in 2003 instead of voting for Pelosi.

      Members also voted against their party's speaker candidate in 1995 and 1997, including 9 Republicans who didn't vote for Gingrich in 1997 (5 voted present, 1 voted for Jim Leach, 1 voted for Bob Michel, 1 voted for Robert Walker)

      "Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right" - Carl Schurz

      by RBH on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:53:01 AM PST

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      •  actually (0+ / 0-)

        2 voted for Leach.

        And with the defeats of Jim Leach and John Hostettler, the only one of those 9 members still in the House is Frank Wolf.

        "Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right" - Carl Schurz

        by RBH on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:54:10 AM PST

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  •  History is herstory now. (8+ / 0-)

    I actually stood up all alone in my living room and applauded. I'm so proud and excited for us all. Raise your cups, cheers to Speaker Pelosi.

    Shut it down is so yesterday. Now it's time to FIRE IT UP!

    by high uintas on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:43:56 AM PST

  •  It is all you hear about on TV News (0+ / 0-)

    and the papers will cover this EXTENSIVELY tomorrow - and frankly i'd rather have straight news coverage on the front pages than some opinion page drivel anyday.

    Your concern may be a bit reactionary - the media isn't ignoring today- just some papers opinion pages - not a huge loss.  Papers will have the photos and stories they need TOMORROW about today - and most had front page stories about pelosi this am.

  •  The media may be lame (5+ / 0-)

    but we aren't!!  Congratulations to the first woman speaker of the house. What a day it is!!!!

    So much time and so little to do...wait, stop, reverse that.---Willy Wonka

    by bluestateonian on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:44:48 AM PST

  •  The Chronicle (3+ / 0-)
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    Or as some of us like to call it here, "The Comical." We love our hometown product though and it gives me no small amount of pleasure to see it cited on dKos.

    I have to admit that when Pelosi first ran for Congress, I voted against her in the primaries; she was, after all, running against a gay man (Harry Britt, I believe, who succeeded Harvey Milk on the Board of Supervisors after he was assassinated, and who I used to see regularly in my neighborhood). As a gay man, and as a recently-minted San Franciscan, having moved here only just a year earlier, I could not resist the idea that one of my fellows should represent me in Congress. I certainly haven't voted against her since then, and in retrospect she was certainly the better choice.

    Go Nancy! Kick some Republican @ss!

    •  but the Comical... (1+ / 0-)
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      my homeo

      has had so many "advice" headlines for Speaker Pelosi recently that it seemed they thought she was still in high school..

      e.g., "Pelosi to be put to the test" (1/2/07) followed by "The vocal and adamant Democrat must now lead two party House in passing legislation" with inset "She needs to have two voices: one of a party leader and one of an institutional leader." Followed by a pat on her PLH (kudos to GrannyDoc).

      Do you suppose the Trib was equally solicitous when Hastert assumed the Speakership?

      The Insignt section from the Sunday paper was more respectful. Above the fold, a huge picture of victorious Pelosi. Headline below the fold - "Changing The Course" "In 2006, Americans became fed up with war, scandal, and bickering and polictics marched from ideological extremes toward the middle" At the bottom of the page, the backs of the gorilla=like trio of Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Bush walking toward a podium surrounded by band and welcoming suits. The web version at the link doesn't do it justice.

      And aside, I wonder if one part of being a SecDef or SecState is to practice walking in step with the leader? I've noticed so many pictures recently in which B and his satraps are literally in step - same bend of the same knee -- reminds me of training to march when I was in school.

  •  Go Nancy (3+ / 0-)
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    Go get 'em, girl.

    Love and Best Wishes from the Liberals in the UK


    Men are from Mars, Women from Venus and Bush from Ur-anus!!

    by malc19ken on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:45:02 AM PST

  •  Wonderful to Witness a (Good) Historical Moment (2+ / 0-)
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    Even if some of the wingnuttier of the pundits try to ignore or diminish it's importance.  Their reactions speak volumes about their own shallowness and don't have any impact on the true meaning of the event.

  •  NPR also took the time to mention the import (1+ / 0-)
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    Eddie Haskell

    of Speaker Pelosi's ascent to her new position.  I know people rag on them, but really, they are imperfect but a frequently good, and right on.  

    (gems like "On the Media", which does a good job of looking at how the media works, or doesn't, also bring important dialogue to the coverage of national politics and news).

    "Support the troops, especially after they come home; that's the hard part." Garrison Keillor, 11/11/06.

    by vome minnesota on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:45:30 AM PST

    •  At least NPR tries to be fair and balanced! (1+ / 0-)
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      And if nothing else, I can wait until BBC World comes on, and get the news from a different perspective.

      "I believe in compulsory cannibalism. If people were forced to eat what they kill, there would be no more wars." - Abbie Hoffman

      by Jensequitur on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:54:23 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  NPR (1+ / 0-)
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      NPR (All Things Considered, IIRC) not only mentioned the import of this historic event, but they broadcast the part of Pelosi's address to Congress where she discussed it:

      "This is an historic moment -- and I thank the leader for acknowledging it. I think you Leader Boehner. It is an historic moment for the Congress, and an historic moment for the women of this country. It is a moment for which we have waited over 200 years. Never losing faith, we waited through the many years of struggle to achieve our rights. But women weren't just waiting; women were working. Never losing faith, we worked to redeem the promise of America, that all men and women are created equal. For our daughters and granddaughters, today we have broken the marble ceiling. For our daughters and our granddaughters, the sky is the limit, anything is possible for them.

  •  that's a heluva (2+ / 0-)
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    delegation she's got escorting her!!!

    i HATE that doolittle is in it, but we have jerry there. so it's bitter sweet..

    speaker pelosi.

    i wanna cry

    This thing isn't over yet. Charlie Brown for Congress!!!

    by Rebelatheart on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:45:46 AM PST

  •  LA TIMES (3+ / 0-)
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    Ummm, Pelosi and Cali women are on front page above the fold in the LA Times this morning.

    Not only that, but Pelosi is "getting pumped" flexing her right bicep.

    Pretty strong image and coverage, if you ask me.

    The Web! Where the demons play, and the cats meow, and the banshees blog, and they do blog well.

    by henny penny on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:45:50 AM PST

  •  Brooks. (1+ / 0-)
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    Somebody tell David Brooks his stud muffin with the perpetual Ohio(?) tan won't be a scratch golfer long if he has to work 5 days a week instead of golfing 5.

  •  Congratulations, Speaker Pelosi!! (11+ / 0-)

    You will be FANTASTIC in this job!

    As a 55 year old woman, I can't tell you how excited I am today!

    ["Party planners" have to deal with assholes like David Brooks all of the time... it actually sounds like Pelosi has a pretty good skill set for uniting this Congress!  Let the sexist morons continue with the insults. Sticks and stones.  Pelosi will prove them wrong and we will all benefit from showing them their ignorance.]

  •  Let's accentuate the positive (3+ / 0-)
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    As I posted on the vote thread (thanks for that, Delaware Dem), this is a day where - as a woman, a Democrat, and a religious pluralist - it just doesn't get any better than this.

    OK, it'd be better if Larry Grant and Jim Hansen were there to represent Idaho, but other than that ...

    If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things better for people coming behind you, and you don't are wasting your time...R Clemente

    by Red State Rebel on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:46:41 AM PST

  •  Some Say Media Corps Should Be Broken Up (4+ / 0-)
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    and held to much smaller market share nationally as well as locally & regionally, and some say the cable transmission infrastructure should be nationalized and licensed for the public good like the airwaves.

    Some say a version of the Fairness Doctrine should be restored, some say major media must provide significant free access for candidates and issues during campaigns.

    Some say!

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:46:51 AM PST

  •  David Brooks is an airhead and "Party Planner" (3+ / 0-)
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    Brooks has been trying to plan the Republican party for years, hoping he could deflect it to mesh with his prejudices.  Of course since most of the more extreme elements of the GOP are very likely to think that Davey's silly quasi-conservative faux manly ideas are just so much crap, it is never going to happen.  That leaves Brooks running along in the wake of a runaway train, calling for it to slow down and let him ride too.  That, in brief, makes him an airhead.

    Brooks is reasonably well-spoken, in a snotty sort of way, so he is employable.  Hopefully the next generation of NY Times editorial page editors will take a long hard look at him and decide some fresh blood and new ideas are needed.

  •  Brownback for VP (0+ / 0-)

    The other encouraging thing on this is that Brownback just might be positioning himself for the VP slot on a McCain ticket. That would give McCain the bridge he needs to crazytown. But at what price?

    I was thinking that McCain could very well pick Lierberman, but would that be acceptable to the lords of crazytown? And what sorts of votes would the crazies demand of Joe between now and then to accept his selection? Enough to make CT voters take another look at Ned?

  •  Brooks (3+ / 0-)
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    Given Brooks' credibility, his continued employ at the NYT is nothing short of inexcusable:

    There’s just one problem: Many of his generalizations are false. According to sales data, one of Goodwin’s strongest markets has been deep-Red McAllen, Texas. That’s probably not, however, QVC country. "I would guess our audience would skew toward Blue areas of the country," says Doug Rose, the network’s vice president of merchandising and brand development. "Generally our audience is female suburban baby boomers, and our business skews towards affluent areas." Rose’s standard PowerPoint presentation of the QVC brand includes a map of one zip code—Beverly Hills, 90210—covered in little red dots that each represent one QVC customer address, to debunk "the myth that they’re all little old ladies in trailer parks eating bonbons all day."

    "Everything that people in my neighborhood do without motors, the people in Red America do with motors," Brooks wrote. "When it comes to yard work, they have rider mowers; we have illegal aliens." Actually, six of the top 10 states in terms of illegal-alien population are Red.

    "We in the coastal metro Blue areas read more books," Brooks asserted. A 2003 University of Wisconsin-Whitewater study of America’s most literate cities doesn’t necessarily agree. Among the study’s criteria was the presence of bookstores and libraries; 20 of the 30 most literate cities were in Red states.

    "Very few of us," Brooks wrote of his fellow Blue Americans, "could name even five NASCAR drivers, although stock-car races are the best-attended sporting events in the country." He might want to take his name-recognition test to the streets of the 2002 NASCAR Winston Cup Series’s highest-rated television markets—three of the top five were in Blue states. (Philadelphia was fifth nationally.)

    Brooks could be dismissed as little more than a snarky punch-line artist, except that he postures as a public intellectual—and has been received as one.

    Stop the surge. Stop the scourge.

    by The Termite on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:47:54 AM PST

  •  USA Today has a nice article.... (13+ / 0-)

    Link is here.  Excerpt...

    Nancy Pelosi won't be the only woman making history when she takes the oath Thursday as the nation's first female speaker of the House.
    The California Democrat is the most visible among a record number of female state legislators, governors and members of Congress. The cracks in the "marble ceiling," as Pelosi likes to call it, will be on display as the new Congress convenes.

    An example: When Democrat Barbara Mikulski of Maryland joined the Senate in 1987, she was the 16th woman ever to hold a seat in that chamber. Thursday, when Democrats Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and Claire McCaskill of Missouri take their oaths as new senators, Mikulski will be among a record 16 women serving in the Senate at the same time.

    Even Republicans celebrate Pelosi's promotion, which puts her second in line to succeed the president. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, calls it "phenomenal." And Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin says she's "tickled pink" even though she said that she and Pelosi are "probably miles apart in terms of political issues."

    "Judge me on the content of my character, not the underwear on my head."

    by Bill in Portland Maine on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:48:09 AM PST

  •  Let them hate all they want (3+ / 0-)

    Truth is, it doesn't take more than an hour in congress to eclipse what the republicans did in 12 years. What have they, republicans have done for you and I in the past 12 years?, if you need a quick and short answer here is the simplest one I can come up with.


  •  PBS Newhour story on Pelosi (1+ / 0-)
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    My Karma just ran over your Dogma

    by FoundingFatherDAR on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:49:19 AM PST

  •  i stand by my diary... (0+ / 0-)

    put down the champagne, nancy

    there is some heavy-lifting to do, and we mean now!

    i love a party and a celebration and all, but, there are people dying because the republicans were the majority...

  •  PS to McJoan (3+ / 0-)
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    You have to know that the often-lame Idaho Statesman did put Pelosi's photo  on Page 1 today, and even above the photo of BSU star Ian Johnson and his fiancee! (But smaller than a huge photo of new Idaho First Lady Lori Otter.)

    If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things better for people coming behind you, and you don't are wasting your time...R Clemente

    by Red State Rebel on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:49:35 AM PST

  •  Nice thread (2+ / 0-)
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    go Nancy! Fuck 'em. They'll cover her when they become obsolete that wacked media.

    Warrantless Domestic Spying, Total Information Awareness, and data mining are the tools of communists.

    by LandSurveyor on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:50:16 AM PST

  •  Just a general point on the comments (5+ / 0-)

    OPINION page is the phrase mcjoan used.

    So all the "corrections" are wrong.

    A pet peeve of mine is that folks seem to have a difficulte time distinguishing between the news pages and the opinion pages in newspapers.

    This thread is a prime example.

  •  Celebrate! (0+ / 0-)

    We earned it.

    Dividing is easy. It's sticking together that's hard. - jotter

    by Eddie Haskell on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:51:09 AM PST

  •  The Trash Has Been Picked Up Today In Washington! (0+ / 0-)

    And Im glad to say, republicans are no longer driving the dup truck!.

  •  I'd like to thank Mr. Brooks and all (4+ / 0-)
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    republicans like him for making this day possible.

    Keep up the good work.

    The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

    by nupstateny on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:52:34 AM PST

  •  Billboard in SF congratulating her (26+ / 0-)

    Congratulations Madame Speaker Nancy Pelosi

    Here's another shot of it (it is near the hightway)

    The billboard was put up by the Outdoor Advertising Association of America.

    The chronicle has a package of stories

  •  233 to 202 votes (2+ / 0-)
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    Not having fully realized that Boehner was running against Nancy Pelosi, I'm a little surprised at the final numbers and wondering at the significance of a 54% winning vote. At moments like this, I'm grateful for the Kos community, who will no doubt help me fill in the blanks.

  •  It was a real thrill watching the tally! (8+ / 0-)

    I almost cried.

    It has been so long and so hard. I wish I could capture that moment and how I felt in a jar.

    Congrats to Nancy Pelosi.

    On a side note- Harriet Miers has left the building!

    I'm definately buying a lottery ticket today.



    "Let's put a shoe in there!" ~ Haywood Nelson

    by nowheredesign on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 10:56:35 AM PST

  •  A historic day, too... (10+ / 0-) Massachusetts.  We just inaugurated Deval Patrick at noon.  I rode my bike down to the State House and saw the whole thing.  Patrick's best moments were when he took on the race issue directly and unashamedly by reminding us that this nation of immigrants came on the Mayflower, but also on the Amistad.  He used the bible given to J.Q. Adams by a group of African would-be slaves whom Adams fought to free.  He reminded us, too, that the State House is Our House.  All of us.  

    It was quite a moment when Patrick first appeared and walked down the stairs toward the podium.  Quite a rousing ovation from all, black, white, and everything in between.

  •  BBC and Sky both showing it live (8+ / 0-)

    Amid a great deal of discussion and in the very reverential tones reserved for great events in recognition of the history that she is making as the first women speaker.

    Also mention of the Koran being used for swearing in Ellison.

    Very respectful, very aware of the moment reporting.

    Now listing the Dem agenda.

    I cannot remember this level of UK exposure to events in the US Congress.

    I am sure it is all due to my presence on DKos   :)

  •  Madame Speaker: Welcome!!! (1+ / 0-)
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    Welcome, welcome- you are most welcome!

    Well, you know what my new bumpersticker says, right?

    Pelosi 07/Clark 08!!!

    It's a beautiful day
    Sky falls, you feel like
    It's a beautiful day
    Don't let it get away

  •  And what was Hastert a "creature" of, Bobo? -nt- (1+ / 0-)
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    We're working on many levels here. Ken Kesey

    by BenGoshi on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:03:23 AM PST

  •  Yes, but what is she wearing? (3+ / 0-)
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    New hairstyle?
    New shade of lipstick?
    Has she "had work done"?
    What size is she?

    Can't we talk about the really important things, Mr. Brooks?  

    If Jesus came back today, He would have been born in the Superdome

    by sayitaintso on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:04:22 AM PST

  •  Boehner: 'Be Nice About It.' (1+ / 0-)
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    uh hunh.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:04:32 AM PST

  •  Shorter George Will (0+ / 0-)

    I make many hundreds of times more than $7.25 an hour, so I can't see any good coming from this.

  •  The Gavel is Passed to Speaker Pelosi Hooray!!!! (5+ / 0-)

    11:09am PST 1-4-06

    "If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." Dalai Lama

    by Predictor on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:05:03 AM PST

  •  hahhahahaha. (11+ / 0-)

    i LOVED hasterts clap. it was more of a small joining of all 10 fingers than a clap. he looked miserable. it was great.


    she looks great up there.

    This thing isn't over yet. Charlie Brown for Congress!!!

    by Rebelatheart on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:06:04 AM PST

  •  Enough About DB! (1+ / 0-)
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    Why does he get so much press here? Do that many Kossacks secretly love the man?

    Folks, please, just ignore the idiot.

    This is CLASS WAR, and the other side is winning.

    by Mr X on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:08:07 AM PST

  •  Congratulations, Pelosi, indeed! (1+ / 0-)
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    She's holding the same office Henry Clay, Thomas Brackett Reed, Joseph Gurney Cannon and Sam Rayburn all held.

    "What is the most important thing in life? People, people, people." -- Maori proverb

    by mkfox on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:10:47 AM PST

    •  Women! They are different. (3+ / 0-)
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       During her speech she thanked the families of Congress people for supporting them. I've never heard a man do that. And then at the end bringing the children up to be a part of this historical moment and saying "We are doing this for the children."  "In the name of the children, the House will come to order."  Can you imagine a guy doing that?  That is why we have to get more women involved.  As someone pointed out yesterday we still have fewer women in Congress that sit in the legislative bodies of Iraq  or Aftganistan.
       I'm a guy and I am really proud of what women have done to bring more compassionate perspective to the deliberations.  And she's right about the children we work for them.

      Everybody eats, nobody hits.

      by upperleftedge on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:36:36 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Every Single Candidate, (0+ / 0-)

        Democratic, women (our male Governor, too, as well) spoke about the children in one of the last campaign rallies that we saw here in Portsmouth, NH.  It quite resonated--and, to me, was an immensely illustrative difference between the two parties--so I'm glad you reiterate its importance.

        Oh, and every single candidate won, including our new, grassroots success story, Carol Shea-Porter.

        Go get 'em, Tigresses!

        To announce...that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.

        by potownman on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:07:37 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  All men and women are created equal (4+ / 0-)

    NP doing a nice job with this, hitting notes of faith, family, and history.

    "For our daughters and granddaughters, today we have broken the marble ceiling."

    If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things better for people coming behind you, and you don't are wasting your time...R Clemente

    by Red State Rebel on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:14:30 AM PST

  •  Speaker Pelosi! (7+ / 0-)

    Well-behaved women seldom make history - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

    jc's designs

    by jaysea on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:14:49 AM PST

  •  Pelosi (2+ / 0-)
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    Phil Burton never got to be speaker, and his widow Sala, not Phil himself, annointed Peolsi to the seat. But I bet Phil would be proud that Ms. Pelosi -- and his old district -- has made it.  I bet Phil would be even happier if Barbara Boxer had been the one, though.

    This aggression will not stand, man.

    by kaleidescope on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:14:55 AM PST

  •  It was all over CNN and their webpage. (1+ / 3-)

    I've heard about it all day in the dreaded media. I guess if they don't just make a 24 hour dedication to her and the greatness of Democrats you won't be happy.

    "The use of solar energy has not been opened up because the oil industry does not own the sun."-Ralph Nader

    by Common Cents on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:16:33 AM PST

  •  A momentous day for women (9+ / 0-)

    No matter where we stand with the Democratic Party, whether we support them wholeheartedly or if we are more reserved waiting for them to prove to us why they should have our trust and loyalty, it is without reservation that we applaud with great pride that Nancy Pelosi is the first woman two seats away from the presidency, the first woman to be Speaker of the House.

    It's heartwarming seeing the families in the House, the sons to be sure but it's the young girls who are there that truly touch my heart, what an amazingly historic moment they are witnessing, a pledge of sorts granted them, that women do rise to seats of power, that women can and do lead, that women have in us equality even if we have not ascended to such in the Constitution of this great country.

    Indeed, in those eyes and hopeful faces, we see the seeds of greatness, in those young girls we see the possibilities of equality, in new generations of leadership, a leadership that will hopefully be easier to grasp and take hold of because of the women like Nancy Pelosi, who never gave up, who rose in the man's world of politics, in a city where she had to fight to be heard, no matter her wealth or family, simply because she is a woman.

    So we stand and applaud this momentous day, thank you Nancy Pelosi and thank you America for giving her your trust and your vote through electing Democrats.  This day, this historic day, this momentous day, let's all stand proud.  And for women, let's take the time to cheer and carry hope, that this can be and must be the beginning, in a brand new way and a new vision for us one and all.

    I will not die an unlived life. Fuck 'em, I will not live in fear, I will live out loud and on the record. 'Cali, you kick 31 flavors of ass.' Eugene

    by caliberal on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:21:27 AM PST

  •  I just went and told my mom, born in 1919 (11+ / 0-)

    that the first woman Speaker of the House was just elected. Just think, the 19th ammendment was passed June 4, 1919, five months to the day before she was born and ratified August 8, 1920. She's lived to see women get the right to vote, and now this. She was very moved.

    Shut it down is so yesterday. Now it's time to FIRE IT UP!

    by high uintas on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:22:24 AM PST

  •  Impeach B*** & Chaney and folks might notice. n/t (0+ / 0-)
  •  The fact that the media find it acceptable (4+ / 0-)

    to speak of a woman in such terms is the very reason that this country can't see past gender to elect a woman president.  Our sexism is light years beyond the point where we can agree to be led by a woman.  Just look at the continuing difference in pay scales and tell me again why we even thing a woman can be elected president?  I have high hopes for Speaker Pelosi, and one of them is that the milestones she has crossed today, the ceilings she has shattered, will serve to change the climate for women in this nation politically and socially.  I think she is more than capable of being one of the best Speakers we've ever had.  I just hope the media learns to judge her as Speaker, and not simply on the basis of gender.

    •  The Media is Opposition Party to Democrats (0+ / 0-)

      so they're never going to learn that. They're still pissed they lost so many seats this last election.

      We're a country of many prejudices at and below the level of the various -isms. But I wouldn't take the scandalous pay scale differences to be an airtight indicator of unelectability of a woman for President. There's obvious prejudice and racism against Obama but he too is plausibly electable.

      The one obvious candidate is one many of us have obvious political differences with and who has a national persona significantly defined by the greatest propaganda machine in human history. Even so I think she has a plausible chance.

      Plus, enough depends on how much the public comes to learn about the Republicans that the gender issue is definitely not airtight.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:34:30 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Which Book Is She Not Holding to Swear In ? (4+ / 0-)
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    Wingnuts want to know.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:26:19 AM PST

  •  I am ashamed (1+ / 0-)
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    of the outgoing Speaker of the House (......get off your ass once in awhile and look like you're engaged in the proceedings!! You're a disgrace to Illinois!!

    So much time and so little to do...wait, stop, reverse that.---Willy Wonka

    by bluestateonian on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:28:10 AM PST

  •  I would think this would be news in Italian... (6+ / 0-)

    papers too, as she is the first ever Italian American in this position too.


    PS: Also... YAY!

  •  As a... (5+ / 0-)

    ...businesswoman, who regularly addresses corporate board meetings and still finds that every man at the table is addressed by their last name, yet I am routinely called by my first name, this female baby boomer is absolutely bursting with pride today.

    She has crashed the marble ceiling.  Speaker sweet the sound to my ears!

    A new year is unfolding - like a blossom with petals curled tightly concealing the beauty within.~Unknown

    by Caldonia on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:30:05 AM PST

  •  ABC has it live....oath of office (6+ / 0-)

    Classic  special moment:

    Question during taking oath of office moments ago...

    Mr.(Dean of the Congress, longest serving member)

    Dingell: "Do you swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States, and pledge to defend it against all enemies foreign AND domestic?"

    Speaker elect Nancy Pelosi " I do!"

    That's a moment to cheer yus all up!

    Once you hit 11%, you are at rock bottom. To go any lower, you must crawl underneath it.

    by Pete Rock on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:30:48 AM PST

  •  I want to congratulate Speaker Pelosi (6+ / 0-)

    both as a fellow woman and as a human being.  I'm sure you've worked hard to get where you are and I know you will work hard to make this country better!

  •  Jovial Pelosi Invites Children To Touch Gravel (4+ / 0-)
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    How refreshing.

  •  Pelosi just took the oath of office (5+ / 0-)

    She looks good. The kids were a nice touch.
    Go Nancy!

    "The war we fight today is more than a military conflict..It is the decisive idealogical struggle of the 21st century." -GWB 8.31.06

    by grayday101 on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:33:06 AM PST

  •  So Cong. "Opey" Putnam-R FL (1+ / 0-)
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    wants to be ASSured Vernon won..LOL
    Go Rush Holt-D NJ-12!!
    Go Christine Jennings FL-13 and her Legal Team!!

    "If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." Dalai Lama

    by Predictor on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:33:13 AM PST

  •  Media is probably too busy (1+ / 0-)
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    covering the fact that Bush's Legal council resigned today. (sad state of affairs)

    •  Perhaps (0+ / 0-)

      She realized that her boss is not quite The Best President Ever.

      To announce...that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.

      by potownman on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:10:05 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  will (0+ / 0-)

    George Will is that little  social invert loser who was last to be picked for every gym class.  So tell me why a guy who since his high school days has done nothing deserves to be read?  Why does this loser have a voice?

    mr republican, is that a flag in your pocket or are you just glad to see my son?

    by pissedpatriot on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:36:04 AM PST

  •  Fox News coverage had Britt Hume... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...droning on during their coverage.

    MSNBC had the novel idea to have women covering this historic moment when, finally, a woman becomes Speaker of the House for the first time in American history.

    Imagine that, have women discussing what this means to women.

  •  Does You Know That Media Are Plural? (0+ / 0-)

    Since you doesn't, much of the rest of this tired old screed about "the media" is predictably unworthy of taking seriously.

    Want to go after Brooks? Fire away. Want to raise issues of accuracy or fairness? A great service. But mindless trashing of "the media" ignores the reality that they are not monolithic and include you, me and everyone else who mediates information from source to recipient.

    •  Since you doesn't (2+ / 0-)
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      write no (wink) good English, maybe you will realize what an idiot you look like.

      FYI, THE Media, a new word  (ENGLISH allows for that. UNlike Spanish, which has an official arbiter of the languagea, the Real Academia, no one  has official control of the English language) that has developed, is singular. It refers to the totality of the Media, i.e., also known at one time as the Fourth Estate.

      Oh wait, maybe Fourth Estate is plural too?

      P.S. This just in, t.s. eliot  did not use capital letters.

    •  Psst (1+ / 0-)
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      USAGE NOTE   The etymologically plural form media is often used as a singular to refer to a particular means of communication, as in The Internet is the most exciting new media since television. Many people regard this usage as incorrect, preferring medium in such contexts. • People also use media with the definite article as a collective term to refer not to the forms of communication themselves so much as the communities and institutions behind them. In this sense, the media means something like "the press." Like other collective nouns, it may take a singular or plural verb depending on the intended meaning. If the point is to emphasize the multifaceted nature of the press, a plural verb may be more appropriate: The media have covered the trial in a variety of formats. Frequently, however, media stands as a singular noun for the aggregate of journalists and broadcasters: The media has not shown much interest in covering the trial. This development of a singular media parallels that of more established words such as data and agenda, which are also Latin plurals that have acquired a singular meaning. • The singular medium cannot be used as a collective noun for the press. The sentence No medium has shown much interest in covering the issue, would suggest that the lack of interest is in the means of communication itself rather than in its practitioners.

      •  You Can Pick Your Dictionary... (0+ / 0-)

        to prove a point, but until the preponderance of usage say "media" are singular, you will be wrong.

        Being a progressive, of course there is no arbiters of English, and one day communication will desolve into the babel that characterize most of what passes for articulate discussion here.

        The reason for speaking good is so that most people will understand you; that is, language is only the vehicle for transporting good idees. So when the language deteriorates, so do the thought.

        But I suspect this ain't an entomological discussion at all but really one about laziness.

  •  I just noticed something... (5+ / 0-)

    from either side of the aisle, many seem to want to kiss Pelosi on the cheek.

    Can you imagine congratulating Dennis Hastert with a kiss on the cheek?

    Ooohh - nasty mental image - gimme some brain-bleach!

  •  Pelosi's mistake was (0+ / 0-)

    not to be appearing with Paris Hilton and Britney Spears. Or at least she should have started by commenting on whether Britney was really alseep at that nightclub, or smashed.

    I guess some people just never learn how the media works. :-)

  •  I'm glued to Cspan (1+ / 0-)
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    The newsbunnies on the other channels are talking about her hair and doing laundry for her out of town family.

    It was a beautiful opening of the 110th !

  •  GO NANCY!!! (3+ / 0-)
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    Go Democrats!!!

    I'm totally thrilled about Speaker Pelosi.  For decades I have worked to get women into higher offices.

  •  When did Clay Aiken join the GOP? (1+ / 0-)
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    Oh wait that's Adam Putnam...

    Hooray for Nancy!

    It's about time!

  •  They sure didn't fail to spend weeks discussing (0+ / 0-)

    how awful and screwed up and losery she was to support Murtha.  

    Check out my lte archive at and feel free to use my ideas

    by DemDachshund on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:41:51 AM PST

  •  Freep this Poll: CNN Quickvote (4+ / 0-)
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    "Will the Democratic-controlled Congress be good for the United States?"

  •  I've been watching MSNBC all day ... (4+ / 0-)
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    and was surprised at how emotional I got.  Never been a rabbid feminist (or rabbid rabbit for that matter), but I was realy, really thrilled when Speaker Pelosi took the gavel.  Lept out of my chair and everything!

    And boy, did she speechify, or what???!!  Teeeee-riffic.  Excellent text beautifully delivered.  Made us all proud.

    Dare we hope?

    No telling what new harm Bush might do if he ever gets back up off the mat. You have to keep your knee on his windpipe until the danger is past. -G. Trudeau

    by LarisaW on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:43:14 AM PST

  •  is it me ... (1+ / 0-)
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    or are Brooks and Will the 1990's and 2000's version of Walter Lippmann?

    •  In their wildest dreams, Will and Brooks could (0+ / 0-)

      never live up to being a comparable version of Lippmann.

      In any century, never mind a decade or two.

      Among Lippmann's cocerns was civic virtue.

      See what I maen?

      •  I don't know about Lippmann .. (0+ / 0-)

        If you read

        You'd understand why I don't have a high opinion of Lippmann.  Lippmann was a sellout.

        •  You have that right, along with the great I.F. (0+ / 0-)

          And Brools and Will still don't, and never have measured up!

          And even in selling out, Lippmann wrote better than these two sellouts.

          Tonight, Brooks announced on PBS he favors the escalation.

          Pure BS that man is.

          He'll impress me when he signs up to drive a fuel truck in Iraq!

          Go Bobo, it'll be much safer now W. is sendung more troops -- like we really have a surplus of them just hanging around -- so you won't have to worry.

          The man gets under my skin.

  •  Media Conspiracy!!1!1 (0+ / 0-)

    I think the story will run in tonight's/tomorrow morning's new cycle, now that it is actually true. That is, until about an hour ago, they hadn't officially elected her. One thing the left and right have in common is that "the media is out to get us!?!?1!!"

  •  Errrrr, forgive the nit-picking but... (1+ / 0-)
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    "running the gambit"? Don't you mean "running the gamut?"

    (slinking away.....)

  •  Will is right (0+ / 0-)

    The minimum wage is folly; it hurts those its supposed to help.

    It's silly to think that self-interested business people will employ the same number of people when the price of labor increases, and often it is better to be employed at a low wage than not at all.

    •  Horse pucky. n/t (5+ / 0-)

      Shut it down is so yesterday. Now it's time to FIRE IT UP!

      by high uintas on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:53:06 AM PST

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    •  No it doesn't. (6+ / 0-)

      That's been the line parroted in high school economics textbooks since, well, forever.  However, the devil, as they say, is in the details.  Turns out, when labor economists looked closely at the data, they couldn't find a positive correlation between the minimum wage and unemployment.   The reason - the level we have set the minimum wage in this country is so drastically low that it doesn't come anywhere near the equilibrium price for labor at the section of the labor market the minimum wage affects.

      The only place they found some positive correlation was in the labor market for teenagers - that is, higher minimum wages led to reduce employment for teens as employers switched from employing low skill teenagers to moderately higher skill adult workers.  Which doesn't seem to a problem at all, as I think we'd rather see, as a society, teens hitting the books and not working on school nights and instead more adult workers filling those jobs.

      "Save the Cheerleader. Save the World."

      by goblue72 on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:56:42 AM PST

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      •  Exactly (0+ / 0-)

        The minimum wage hurts not just teens but all low-skilled workers - i.e. workers whose marginal productivity is less than the minimum wage.

        Sometimes, a job - any job - helps these workers gain experience and learn responsibility.  But this avenue to success is cut off by minimum wage legislation.

        As a general matter, legislation that reduces choice is harmful to some group of people.

        •  God, you are dense. (1+ / 0-)
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          You can't look at this issue in some general abstract sense - that's fine for a high school economics textbook, but not when it comes to making public policy.

          The point is that the pool of non-high school workers potentially harmed by this is incredibly small - much, much smaller than the pool of non-high school workers that could be helped by this.  

          On top of that, one can just easily (and more convincingly) argue that what those super low skilled, non-high school workers don't need to help them out is some dead-end, meaningless job at Burger King that has zero prospects for a better job, but rather English-language training, a GED, life skills help, etc.

          Because if you are a reasonably healthy adult workers who is so low-skilled or undesireable a worker that McD's doesn't want to have to pay you the minimum wage, then the problem isn't the minimum wage.

          "Save the Cheerleader. Save the World."

          by goblue72 on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:25:12 PM PST

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          •  You shouldn't deminish low-skill jobs (0+ / 0-)

            by calling them "dead-end" and "meaningless."  Lots of very successful people start in these sorts of jobs.  The reason they are so important is that they show future employers that one is responsible, that one will show up on time, that one will be courteous to customers.  These skills are important in every job and they are demonstrated in even the most "dead-end" and "meaningless" of jobs.

            The minimum wage prices certain workers out of these jobs.  It eliminates an opportunity that would otherwise be available.  An employer might hire a lower skilled worker at $4 per hour but not at $7 per hour; a worker might be willing to take this job if there are no better jobs available and his time is worth less than $4 per hour.  This job could serve as a stepping stone to a better job in the future.  But it won't if minimum-wage legislation takes away this option.

            On the other hand, the minimum wage does help some people: those who retain their jobs.  Those who retain their jobs (I won't say "these people" because "fisheye" already had a fit about that phrase) earn higher wages and get the benefit of reduced competition from other workers.  It is important to recognize, however, that that extra income and reduced competition comes at the expense of those without jobs.

            It's easy to see why unions support raising the minimum wage.  Most union workers do not earn the minimum wage, but they stand to benefit from the reduced competition from those who can't compete because minimum-wage legislation eliminates the opportunity.

        •  Exactly - now let me say just the opposite too, (0+ / 0-)

          in complete agreement. What part of "The only place they found some positive correlation was in the labor market for teenagers" means "not just teens but all low-skilled workers"?

          •  Sorry if it wasn't clear (0+ / 0-)

            Teens - at least on the whole - can be seen as a subset of low-skilled workers because teens, generally, are low-skilled.

            goblue72 said that some economists have found that the minimum wage deminishes job opportunities for teens.  The reason for this effect is that a self-interested business person might be willing to take a chance on a low-skilled worker for $4 per hour but not for $7 per hour.  Because teens, generally, are low-skilled, this effect can be seen amongst teens.

            It's not as if there is something special about teens that makes them susceptible to the minimum wage but not others.  No, they are affected because of their skill level.

        •  Who are "these workers"? (0+ / 0-)

          Minimum wage earners productivity is not determined by their "skill". It's determined by their wage, in a business model that squeezes every ounce of sweat it can from a penny. This patronizing posture that rediculously low paying jobs are going to teach "these people" responsibility is condescending and tone deaf to families that bust their asses trying to survive where often little to no opportunity exists.
          The argument that raising the minimum wage will hurt people is a rediculous, eighties, trickle down, Reaganomic, anti union falacy. It stems from an attitude that "poor people are lazy" and minimum wages are an affrontery to employer benevolence that "teaches" them not to be, with low pay. Go figure.

          "Marginal" doesn't apply properly to your sentence except as a diminutive to "these workers".

          Show me the evidence.

          •  Sorry if I hurt your feelings (0+ / 0-)

            In the sentence you are referring to, "these workers" refers to low-skilled workers.

            Please realize that the term low-skilled worker does not refer to their moral worth as a person but only to their skill level at a particular trade.  Sometimes, it is important to distinguish between lower and higher skilled workers when determining who will be affected by legislation.

            In the case of minimum-wage legislation, I believe it is the low-skilled workers who are most adversely affected, as I have tried to argue in my comments to this diary.

            •  You didn't hurt my feelings (0+ / 0-)

              And, I did not mistake "skill" for "moral worth".

              My point was that the "low skilled" workers produce more than they are paid for.

              quite the opposite of

              "low-skilled workers - i.e. workers whose marginal productivity is less than the minimum wage."

              I asked who they were because I want to know just who are you talking about that produce less than they are paid at minimum wage?

              Also, I think you are wrong to suggest that a pitiful raise in the minimum wage is going to effect employment in any significant way for any income or skill level.

              •  It will effect employment (0+ / 0-)

                A self-interested business person will buy less of something - including labor - when the price of it goes up.  If the price of labor goes up for some workers, the self-interested business person will employ less such workers.

                Maybe you're right and business people are less self-interested than I think, but it's doubtful.

    •  The minimum wage is used as a benchmark (4+ / 0-)
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      by governments and companies for salary deliberations.  

      Your opinion regarding the minimum wage neglects that important function.

      Most companies already pay more than the minimum wage.

      Citizens need a salary to survive in our modern society where it is unreasonable to expect folks to live on a farm and grow their own food.  As such, the salaries must pay enough to provide a living income to the employee.  A minimum wage that replaces the ability to grow their own food and work on their own farm.

      Wake up and join the modern society with a modern economy.

      House and the Senate? Lordy! Lordy! Lordy!

      by Lew2006 on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:07:10 PM PST

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    •  Is it really? (3+ / 0-)
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      Having a job requires certain things. Transportation clean clothes and transportation. Other costs go up with employment, child care among other opportunity costs of having a job. If your wage won't provide those things necessary to keep a job, what good is it?

      Of course the market will adjust to the minimum wage change. That money in minimum wage increase will return to the economy the day after payday, rather than getting washed around in banks and savings accounts for months or years or removed completely. Much of it will be spent on goods provided by other minimum wagers.

      Is their any evidence that higher minimum wages have resulted in higher unemployment rates? Seems our performance in the last century pretty much discounts that theory.

    •  You're Kidding, Right? (1+ / 0-)
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      In a poll of small-business owners released in March by Wells Fargo and the Gallup Organization, 86% of those surveyed said the minimum wage had no effect on them or their hiring practices. And even if the wage went up by 10%, some 75% said there would be no effect on their business. Only 14% of small-business owners who said they were thinking about hiring a new employee told the pollsters they would hire at the minimum wage.

      Inflation calculations, by the way, show that the 1974 (widely cited for a baseline for actual rise in wages) minimum wage of $ 2.00 should have risen to $ 8.32.  $ 7.25 is 87% of the value of the 1974 minimum wage.

      To announce...that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.

      by potownman on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:25:02 PM PST

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  •  They told me how I'm going to die (7+ / 0-)

     I heard on December 29th. Renal failure, somewhere between thirty months and thirty years from now, with fifteen being a good guess. I'm only forty. Everything that lives by definition must die, but fifty five years are not enough to see my kids grown.

     I'd like to live to a ripe old age, but Senator Brownback's religion would seem to push this possibility out of reach for me. Stem cell based replacement kidney culture is the best chance I have for being a grumpy old man.

     Letter to the one Democrat who voted against the measure is seen below:


    Senators Hagel & Nelson,

        Ive tried to restrain myself to one letter a week and I must apologize as I believe this is the third in the last forty eight hours, but a burning personal issue for me is going to be before the Senate soon.

        I see an article here indicating that Senator Sam Brownback, favorite of religious extremists, will be filibustering a bill related to stem cell research. Weve all seen the recent work involving the safe removal of a single cell from a blastocyte which would allow the creation of as many new stem cell lines as desired, and there are other methods for harvesting stem cells that in no way involve a human embryo.

       Senator Brownback would have us discard an extremely promising medical research direction at a time when our health care costs are spiraling out of control. Why does he do this? Not out of any principle stated in our Constitution. Not out of any ethical concern that can stand logical inspection. Senator Brownback will do this because he believes it is right and proper to enforce his religion on the rest of us.

       This isnt OK with me. It wasnt OK when it was purely a logical argument about how to proceed. It became very clear for most everyone when Michael J. Fox appeared on national television to plead for research that might help his condition. After the conversation I had with my nephrologists on the 29th of December its personal for me, because the man told me how I am going to die.

        Im forty years old but with sunglasses to cover those laugh lines I could be taken for ten years younger. My weight, blood pressure, blood sugar, and all other indicators are either good or excellent  but I have a genetic condition where the mass of my kidneys are slowly being replaced by cysts. Maybe I get another thirty years  or maybe only thirty months before the early stages of renal failure start to appear.

        Perhaps stem cell research will yield a treatment for my condition. Perhaps not. Whatever the case may be this is merely one of many issues where the separation of church and state must be enforced, lest the United States of America be replaced by some sleazy theocracy with a character similar to that which the administration of our putative unitary executive has shown for the last six years.

        Gentlemen, please put a stop to this nonsense. There were sixty three votes in favor the last time the issue appeared and the mood of the voters has not improved since then. Make the right choice for all Americans and encourage your colleagues to do the same.

                    Iowa Boy

    "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise" - U.S. Constitution author and fourth President James Madison

    by Iowa Boy on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:48:13 AM PST

    •  Damn! (1+ / 0-)
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      Are you a candidate for transplant? I have a cousin who has had two transplants, she's around 35 and a mother. I know your anger, and send my best hopes and wishes.

      Shut it down is so yesterday. Now it's time to FIRE IT UP!

      by high uintas on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:56:50 AM PST

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      •  oops - was supposed to go into stem cell thread (1+ / 0-)
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        Sorry - wrong thread. I'm not angry, I'm Buddhist - I expect to die, perhaps without any forewarning, but I wonder what evil I did in some previous life that my time here might be cut short by some religious fanatic. Perhaps I tried to foist my beliefs on others?

        "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise" - U.S. Constitution author and fourth President James Madison

        by Iowa Boy on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:11:07 PM PST

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  •  This day will live in infamy, (5+ / 0-)

    not for the Democrats and Nancy Peolsi, long may she speak, but for the Republicans.  I shall always remember Dick Cheney, first and foremost, for the infamous vote he cast against Meals on Wheels, and I shall always remember, and so will Americans for centuries to come, those Republicans who today voted against the first woman Speaker.  The result was settled before the voting started and the Republicans had a chance, at last, to show a little class.  All they had to do was vote for Nancy Pelosi, but they didn't.  What unmitigated, unashamed, unworthy jerks, and what an unforgettable signal to send to all little girls everywhere.  

    If you don't have an earth-shaking idea, get one, you'll love building a better world.

    by hestal on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:52:29 AM PST

  •  Be It Resolved: All Ur Base R Belong 2 Us (3+ / 0-)
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    Just watched the swearing in.  How ya like bein' back in the kiddie seats, ya criminal gang of war-mongering anti-Constitutional Republican thugs?

  •  We have a New World and a New Future (0+ / 0-)

    and it does not matter if the MSM ignores that event or belittles that event.

    House and the Senate? Lordy! Lordy! Lordy!

    by Lew2006 on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:54:07 AM PST

  •  I haven't heard much of Louise Slaughter (1+ / 0-)
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    other than the "bling" comment, but I really enjoy her as part of the New York delegation.

    I just wish some other members of our caucus can be as eloquent and clear-spoken as Rep. Slaughter.

  •  To (3+ / 0-)
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    hell with what Brooks says. CONGRATULATIONS speaker Pelosi! This is truly an historic day, even if the corporate media ignores the true import of it.


    "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."-George Orwell

    by Babsnc on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:56:15 AM PST

  •  Catfight!? (3+ / 0-)
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    Here's a hint at coming coverage, in a column by Lois Romano in today's WaPo:

    Catfight aftermath: Rep. Jane Harman is still quite irked that House Speaker-designee Nancy Pelosi nixed her for chairman of the House intelligence committee -- and she's not exactly being stoic about it.

    "Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime." -- Ernest Hemingway

    by spread the word IRAQ NAM on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 11:59:04 AM PST

  •  Congrats Speaker Pelosi (1+ / 0-)
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    From all the women in Canada,esp this woman!!

  •  Many in GOP have a decision to make (1+ / 0-)
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    Do I support the Bush agenda and go down with the ship or wise up and have a political life after Bush?

    The right needs to understand that the Bush agenda is dead and there is no personal political gain in supporting a has been in the minds of the American people.

    Am I going to be seen as a old line partisian or a new way forward American bipartisian that will be seen as above the old ways.

    Dems are in power.  I guess the best way to be on top for the next political reshuffle is to be seen as a politician that is part of the future, ot of the old Bush past.

    Hell, if the Dems like me enough I may get some plum things for my district that will help me in the next election!

    Come on GOP! The Bushies has left you to fend for yourself. Its time for you to act in your own best interest!

    I know there are plenty of trolls out there reading this. so spread the word!

  •  Nice photo of the champ on the FP of NYTimes now (1+ / 0-)
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    Dessine-moi un mouton fou. - Le Petit Kos

    by Cliff Talus on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:03:04 PM PST

  •  I'm going to Hell (3+ / 0-)
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    I know I'm going to Hell for saying this, but an intelligent woman with a humanist world view is just one impeachment and one faulty pace maker away from the oval office. I'm trembling with excitement.

    Is there intelligent life on Earth?

    by RichardR on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:09:33 PM PST

  •  I've had it (4+ / 0-)

    with the corpoate media. Norah slow-down-L on MSNBC was just complaining to her guest about the "ripple effect" if the dems increase the minimum wage. She cites higher prices at restaurants and hotels for the rest of us if this happens. OMG, she is just pathetic. Norah, go out to your high priced steak house and stew over your $45.00 fillet instead of your $44.95 fillet. Laughable, sad. Is this what passes for journalism now?

    "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."-George Orwell

    by Babsnc on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:10:22 PM PST

    •  Laughable, sad, and also wrong. (0+ / 0-)

      The price of something is not determined by its cost, but rather by how much someone will pay. Granted, with all those extra dollars entering the economy from minimum-wage workers, the balance is tipped a little, in that demand goes up, but that's just tough for us "rich folks"; the balance is way too far in our favor right now anyway.

  •  Kickin' Ass! (3+ / 0-)
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    Available here.

    Well-behaved women seldom make history - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

    jc's designs

    by jaysea on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:11:35 PM PST

  •  I dunno (0+ / 0-)

    I hate Brooks as much as the next person, but that piece didn't really scream sexism to me. To answer your question, yes, I do think he would describe a male colleague that way. And yes, Nancy Pelosi IS a master of the high donor circuit (it is literally impossible to advance in congressional leadership without that skill). And yes, it's probably fair to say that given her prominence in congressional ranks she hasn't been associated with nearly as much substantive legislation as you might expect.

    All that is not to say she won't be a great speaker, which is more about negotiating skills, toughness, and persuasion than anything else. I think she will.

    You're a little hyper-sensitive on this one, I think. And the editorials for which you pine will mostly appear tomorrow or this weekend. Editorials are rarely done in expectation of an event, as opposed to reacting to them (one of the reasons editorials are so useless.)

  •  Pelosi is a joke (1+ / 0-)
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    Why all the love all of a sudden for Nancy Pelosi? She voted FOR the Iraq war and has cowtowed to Bush since he became President. She's already said she's not going to pursue those bad "liberal" policies and go more to the center. She said she didn't want to go after Bush and impeach but to play nice with the Republicans. Since she sat down with Bush (who acted like he was pandering to her), he decided to increase the number of troops in Iraq and check anyone's mail whenever he deems it has to do with "national security". Will Nancy Pelosi do anything about it? I doubt it because she and the other Democratic leaders have been cowards when it comes to the Republicans.  

  •  I don't know... (0+ / 0-)

    "First woman speaker" was about all I heard on MSNBC this afternoon.

    Commander Jeff Huber, US Navy (Retired) is a freelance writer in Virginia, USA.

    by Jeff Huber on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:12:50 PM PST

  •  Article and photo (0+ / 0-)

    Dessine-moi un mouton fou. - Le Petit Kos

    by Cliff Talus on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:15:13 PM PST

  •  CNN Website seems to know (0+ / 0-) and story and all.

  •  MSNBC is doing wall to wall coverage (0+ / 0-)

    and has just given me a brand new 'most idiotic commentator' to loathe and despise and laugh at - I speak of that simpering fool, Anna Marie Cox, otherwise known as Wonkette? am I right? she should get back in the basement, although she seems to pride herself as being an expert on what she thinks the extreme left wing thinks! moroness.  Congratulations Madame Speaker, you did all of us and yourself really proud. Proud to be a grandmother today.

  •  Um, Brooks, who is the best fundraiser ever? (1+ / 0-)
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    Let's see...that would be George W. Bush. Now let's fix up that article of yours.

       Some people believe that Bush is an airhead, but that is wrong. Some people believe he is a radical Texas conservative, but that, too, is wrong. The main fact to know about Bush is that he is a creature of the modern fund-raising system. Some politicians rise because they run political machines. Some rise because they are great communicators. Bush has risen because he is a master of the thousand-dollar-a-plate fundraising circuit....

       He paid his dues selecting party favors, arranging seating charts (after that, legislation is easy), and laying thick dollops of obsequiousness on cranky old moguls and their helmet hair spa-spouses. He has done what all political fund-raisers do: tell rich people things they already believe (that yes, they are overtaxed), demonize the other side (yes, the Democrats are terrorists), motivate the giving with Manichaean tales of good versus evil.

    If your name was George Walker instead of George Walker Bush, your candidacy would be a joke.

    by dole4pineapple on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:34:07 PM PST

  •  What are you talking about? (0+ / 0-)

    LATimes, NYTimes and WAPO all have front page articles aboout the Dems taking over and beautiful pix of Pelosi. We take a lot of shit from the press. But get real. This is unecessary wingnutty paranoia in direct contradiction of fact.

    Diebold! Democracy's premiere supplier of coffin nails since 2002

    by moon in the house of moe on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:34:10 PM PST

  •  A (Small) Grain of Truth in Brooks' Column (0+ / 0-)

    Although it was stated in a very tacky way, Brooks makes a valid point about Pelosi.

    When she first ran for Congress in the 1987 special election, no one in SF had ever heard of her.  She had no grassroots support and spent nearly all her time in DC raising money for the party.  But since the local party machine lined up solidly behind her, she squeaked out a narrow victory over the far more progressive Harry Britt.  Britt would have made history if he had won, as the first openly gay person elected to Congress (others had been re-elected after they had come out of the closet).  Also, Britt is far more representative of "San Francisco values" (anti-war, anti-NAFTA, pro-impeachment) than the "safe" liberal Pelosi.

    A largely unknown irony of that '87 special election is that it was an "open" priamry, meaning that anyone could vote for any candidate regardless of party.  By election day it was clear that the ultimate winner would be either Pelosi or Britt (there were a dozen or more also-rans), and among Democrats who voted that day, Britt won.  Many Repubs, knowing there was zero chance of electing one of their own, voted for Pelosi to keep Britt out of Congress.  

    So all you Pelosi fans can thank SF Republicans for putting her in Congress, for without them, she would still be behind the scenes giving parties and raising money for the party.    

    •  not the complete picturethough (0+ / 0-)

      when you say "largely unknown irony" you clearly are being a bit insulting to those dKos members who are from san francisco and who do remember the 1987 primary, the campaigns and the constellation of actions which all made pelosi's victory possible.

      to reduce her win to being solely the "gift" of san franciscan republicans would be untrue.  first of all, the percentage of sf registered republicans is not that big (under 15% i believe).  voter turn out was low in the april primary by sf standards. given how divided the city was between the 2 principle candidates and the size of the primary field, it is very unlikely that the republicans here decided that they would never elect one of their own and therefore become king/queen-makers and throw the primary to pelosi out of fear of electing a REAL(?) liberal like britt. (BTW -- pelosi did oppose the war, remember?).

      you neglect the importace of sala burton's deathbed "annoiting" of pelosi to take her seat, which was an unmistakable signalling to the burton machine which of the democratic candidates the machine favored -- pelosi, not britt.  it wasn't just that the machine "lined up" for pelosi, it was more to the point that sala directed the machine to do so on her deathbed, in essence, as she believed pelosi to be the best choice for her successor.  and, fwiw, john burton (phil's brother and sala's brother-in-law) was a bit surpised when sala annointed pelosi.  he thought that perhaps sala meant "nancy walker" an sf supervisor.  but no, sala was adamant.  it was pelosi.  john is one of pelosi's closest political allies and friends.  he admits to being pleasantly surprised by how well pelosi turned out to be.

      is there a reason you neglected to talk about the deep and pretty long-lasting tension the pelosi-britt struggle caused within the lgbt communities?  the gay community was not united behind either candidate.  however, IIRC, on primary night, pelosi did show ever-so-slight margins of victory over britt in predominately gay parts of the city -- hell, her margin of victory was a mere 4%.

      again, IIRC, voter turn out was pretty cruddy too (something around 40% -- dropping even lower for the actual special election in june of about 26%.

      britt is a notoriously underwhelming campaigner.  it's not something he ever liked doing.  the same is not true for pelosi.

      the fact that had britt beaten pelosi he would indeed have made his own history, as the first openly gay man ever elcted to congress.  just two years later, britt DID make history as the first openly gay president of the sf board of suprrvisors.  no small feat.  

      yes, had britt beaten pelosi he'd have been the first openly gay man elected to the house.  true.  but that "what if" scenario -- while interesting -- is irrelevant to the fact that pelosi broke the marble ceiling for the third time in six years.  

      there seems to be a subtle hint therein that maybe britt would be an even more impressive representative than is pelosi.  to a great deal of members of the msm and congress, pelosi is viewed as too liberal.  you seem to hold she is not liberal enough.  can't win for losing... britt is now a socialist whose record of attendance as member of the sf board of supervisors at times bordered on really abysmal.

      but to chide pelosi as an insider's insider unknown even in san francisco would be not fair and not true.  she was california state democratic party chairwoman -- elected to be such for a two-year term in 1981 after having been northern california's chairwoman of the party for four years.  she even chaired the host committee for the 1984 democratic national convention, held here in sf.  seems to me that being such tends to deflate the belief that she was usually in dc raising money.

      raising money is something she does well.  sponsoring critical legislation -- as well as being a catalyst for even better legislation -- is something she also does ell.  taking huge risks on the hill defending people with aids, the lbgt communities, trying to preserve choice-- these too she does well.  

      a key issue in the britt-pelosi- and for a while psychologist dr. steven morin -- race was aids and aids prevention.  morin, FWIW had published two of the more watershed scientific journal articles on homosexual biases in psychotherapy, and was by no means a political newcomer or a newcomer to the health concerns of the lbgt communities (having been a founder of the ucsf aids center on aids prevention studies).  morin withdrew frm the race -- and was one of the more well-known gay leaders who did not support britt (jim hormel also, to name just two).

      in the tradition of phil burton, who hired bill kraus -- an openly gay man to staff him on especially on aids and lgbt issues, and then sala burton, who also maintained her late husband's vigilance in aids-related and lgbt-related issues in congress (she retained kraus -- who died from aids-related complications in 1986) pelosi was the first congresswoman to hire a full-time staff person who principally devoted time and attention to HIV/AIDS.

      with what we know of pelosi's undisputed record in hiv/aids appropriations and legislation (such as the extension of COBRA benefits, the Housing Opportunities for People With AIDS Act, the HOPE Act -- which became the ryan white care act, etc.), it demonstrates not just a willingness to make good on campaign promises but to make good and make real.  the same comparison/extrapolation can not be drawn with britt, however.

      i say all of this to suggest that your take on the 1987 events are more massaged in favor of demeaning pelosi than they were in representing the events of those few months accurately.

      i personally can not imagine anyone but nancy as the representative from california's 5th (and then as redistricting changed it, caiforni's 8th) district.

      "sit ubu, sit. good boy"


      by dadanation on Fri Jan 05, 2007 at 01:33:35 AM PST

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  •  even The NY Post Knows (0+ / 0-)

    online at least: QUEEN NANCY TAKES OVER and a very flattering picture at that.

    "When people think, Democrats win." - Bill Clinton

    by Todd Beeton on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:41:12 PM PST

  •  Die Tagesschau in Germany leads off with it (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    MontanaMaven, Caldonia

    Dem majority first, then with Pelosi being first woman, then into the details...

    Thad McCotter, Republican Policy Committee Chair, on bipartisanship: "Those tribal animosities and ancient hatreds, they tend to reassert themselves."

    by lizah on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 12:45:56 PM PST

  •  So quick to attack the media mcjoan... (0+ / 0-)

    what happens if they comment on this day tomorrow? Aren't you jumping the gun a bit with this?

    by politico1985 on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 01:45:55 PM PST

  •  Today is a long way away from the day when (0+ / 0-)

    women were told they could do any job in the place but that those jobs "weren't given to women."  I know firsthand, and today almost made me weap.  Hurrah for Nancy and bravo for the U.S.A.  It's about time!

  •  Congratulations Madam Speaker (0+ / 0-)

    1st Woman Speaker
    1st Califonian Speaker
    1st Italian American Speaker

    We all have high hopes for you and your leadership.

    "A child miseducated is a child lost" John F. Kennedy

    by Pam from Calif on Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 03:20:35 PM PST

  •  Boehner's Cheap Shot at the DEMOCRATIC Party (0+ / 0-)

    Republican leader, John Boehner, in his House speech today, referred to the "Democrat Party", which is an intentionally insulting epithet taken right out of the Gingrich-Limbaugh playbook. Then, incredibly, Boehner went on to talk about the two parties disagreeing "respectfully" and that they should "be nice about it".

    Did Boehner just make a verbal gaffe by not calling the opposition by its actual name, the "Democratic Party", or was he being petty and mean-spirited, and showing himself to be a sore loser?

  •  I actually made this mistake of scanning the (0+ / 0-)

    Brooks drivel.

    His criticism of Speaker Pelosi?

    She's rich.

    I guess he'll be calling on Cheney to resign.

  •  Can't we do something about mainstream media? (0+ / 0-)

    Isn't a war against what has been allowed to happen to our media as important as our other wars and causes?  

    Because how can we ever have a just and honorable government that the people admire, as long as the media is so unabashedly partisan and lacks any oversight or balance?

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