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When the Senate Foreign Relations Committee took up the Biden-Hagel resolution opposing the President’s troop escalation proposal last week, I supported it as a first step toward ending our involvement in this war.  That resolution didn’t go nearly far enough – it was nonbinding and just focused on the escalation – but putting the Senate on record against the "surge" was a small step in the right direction.  

Unfortunately, the new Warner-Levin resolution that many Democrats are pushing is flawed and unacceptable.  It rejects the surge, but it also misunderstands the situation in Iraq and endorses the President’s underlying approach.  It’s basically a back-door authorization of the President’s misguided policies, and passing it would be a big mistake.  Under the guise of constructive criticism, the Warner-Levin resolution signs off on  the President continuing indefinite military operations in Iraq that will not address the fundamental political challenges in Iraq, and that continue to distract us from developing a comprehensive and global approach to the threats that face our nation.  

Here’s a link to the resolution so everyone knows what we’re talking about.  I’m going to pass over the first finding, which salutes the President as "Commander in Chief."  And I’m not going to focus on finding (16), which salutes the muddled and wishy-washy report of the Iraq Study Group as "valuable."  Instead, I’m going to focus on section 22 of the findings, which is nothing short of an endorsement of the status quo in Iraq and that is simply unacceptable.  It rejects exactly what is most needed in Iraq – an "immediate reduction in, or withdrawal of, the present level of forces."  If you vote for this resolution, you are voting against redeploying troops from Iraq.  This resolution doesn’t fix the administration’s failed Iraq policy – it just takes us back to where we were before the escalation.  It’s not enough to reject the "surge" if you aren’t willing to support a plan for redeploying our troops.    

It’s all downhill from there in (b)2.  The resolution goes on to support "continuing[ing] vigorous operations in Anbar province, specifically for the purpose of combating an insurgency."  Apparently, some people think that our troops should be involved in putting down the Sunni insurgency in western Iraq.  Actually, the President’s policy of maintaining a massive, open-ended military presence in Iraq has been inflaming the insurgency in that country from the start.  I support the idea of targeted counter-terrorism missions to take out terrorist elements in Iraq, but we shouldn’t ask our brave troops to remain there to put down an Iraqi insurgency any more than we can expect them to end Shi’ite-Sunni sectarian conflict in Baghdad.  

That’s why I introduced legislation this week to use Congress’s power of the purse to end our military involvement in Iraq.  I was greeted with a tremendous response from this community.  I’m extremely grateful for it because it was evidence of how badly change is both wanted and needed.  But how does the Warner/Levin resolution change anything?  We owe it to ourselves to demand action that will bring about change in Iraq, not take us back to a failed status quo.  

Democrats in Congress have seemingly forgotten that we were in power when Congress authorized the President to go to war in Iraq.  Supporting a de facto reauthorization puts us in serious jeopardy of repeating that mistake.  We also have to remember that in November, Americans sent over 30 new Democratic Representatives and eight new Democratic Senators plus a very progressive Independent to fix a failed Iraq policy.  The public is craving change in Iraq and a resolution like this one will not cut it.  Now is the time for strong action.  

Some have argued that any legislative vehicle that could be spun as a rejection of the President’s policies would be worth supporting.  I understand that strategy, and it may sound good to some.  But when all the spinning is done, what we are left with is the actual text of the legislation, which is an endorsement of the open-ended commitment of the U.S. military in Iraq.

It’s time for Congress to end our military involvement in this war.  We must redeploy our troops from Iraq so that we can focus on the global threats that face us.

**UPDATE** - 5:58 pm

Thanks to everyone who has responded so far.  I tell my colleagues in the Senate all the time about the hunger I see in this community, in my listening sessions in Wisconsin, and around the country, for real change.  All of this is happening today amidst reports that the CBO is predicting the President will need significantly more troops for his escalation than what the White House is publicly saying.  I understand how important it is to send a clear message to the White House.  But we shouldn’t make the compromises made in this resolution just to beat a filibuster.  Instead of trying to pass something that everyone can get behind, we should be taking a strong stand.  If others want to block it, go right ahead.  We have the support of a majority of Americans behind us.  We should recognize that and act on it.  Thank you again.  I really appreciate the encouragement.

Originally posted to Russ Feingold on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:25 PM PST.

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  •  Sen Feingold (195+ / 0-)
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    Thank you for consistently fighting the necessary fight.  I could not agree with you more.  This resolution will be ignored by the administration and binds the hands of Senate with respect to future action.  The leadership should oppose this effort.

    "Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will." MLK

    by jmaier on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:25:07 PM PST

  •  Thank you Senator! (38+ / 0-)

    I don't think anyone here supports the Warner/Levin Resolution.  It has no teeth and is simply another way to allow Bush run out the clock on his responsibility for this mess.

    For one, I love your plan!  Cut the funding for the Surge!  You have our full support!

    Never trust any user ID over 10,000!
    - Anonymous

    by Dion on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:26:12 PM PST

  •  I totally agree, (39+ / 0-)

    I've already heard Sen. Warner waffle and backtrack his way out of any commitment to this surge being the last test of Bush's strategy earlier on today.  I'm so sick of this war and all of the pain it causes.

    Thank you Senator Feingold, for standing up.  Wish more of our Senators would have your courage.

    "It does not require many words to speak the truth." Chief Joseph - Nez Perce

    by Gabriele Droz on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:28:34 PM PST

  •  Senator Feingold, (17+ / 0-)

    can you tell us which Senators are leaning in the direction of Warner-Levin resolution?  We might at least be able to call our Senators and tell them how important it is for us to have a new strategy in Iraq.  

    The first thing lost in war is truth.

    by KatHart on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:29:08 PM PST

  •  The link doesn't work... (14+ / 0-)

    it redirected me to the Senate home page instead.  I would like to read the actual text please.  Thanks for posting Senator!

    Let justice reign though the heavens tremble

    by Viceroy on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:30:08 PM PST

  •  Senator... (16+ / 0-)

    Any ideas as to what we can do to get the rest of our elected representives to listen to "We, the people?"

    Many of your our colleagues seem to be about the only people in the US who don't realize the war is going poorly, and that we should get out of there.

    The meek shall inherit nothing. -F.Zappa

    by cometman on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:30:30 PM PST

  •  Many thanks (11+ / 0-)

    When I read the compromise they reached, I scratched my head in confusion.  As you state the public is craving change, so introducing resolutions that don't offer change simply don't do what we want.  I got your back if you need.

  •  might I also suggest (43+ / 0-)

    legislation or some other written action that cautions the President not to target Iran militarily without first seeking Congressional approval (which hopefully he would not get)?

    As yet more evidence that the Bush administration may be seriously contemplating military action against Iran soon, see this:

    Let's stop the next war BEFORE it begins.  

    •  Equally important (4+ / 0-)
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      Canadian Reader, rlharry, zett, bablhous

      Not only must we pressure to get the troops out of Iraq, we must demand that the war does not widen further,

      It is more than clear that this President has no intention of listening to anyone who does not agree with  him. Telling him what you, or the people, think is like talking to a wall. Using the power of Congress to choke off funding is the only thing that will have any result.

      Thank you again, Senator, and if you need any encouragement, you have mine.

      If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. ~James Madison

      by mjshep on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:26:11 PM PST

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    •  That just invites another (4+ / 0-)
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      Canadian Reader, gogol, bablhous, TomP

      Gulf of Tonkin resolution and a new round
      of WMD misderection.

      To think is easy. To act is difficult. To act as one thinks is the most difficult of all -Goethe

      by commonscribe on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:45:09 PM PST

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    •  I wrote a letter to Senator Boxer today (15+ / 0-)

      requesting that she introduce binding legislation to rescind the AUMF immediately and to draft a new resolution stating that, if Bush attacks any country in the absence of a Congressional Declaration of War, it will be grounds for immediate impeachment.

      Got the idea from something Digby posted earlier today.

      Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, fanatical, criminal. - Supertramp, "The Logical Song"

      by mentaldebris on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:14:52 PM PST

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      •  Digby? Sure. And ya could gotten idea from me (1+ / 0-)
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        about rescinding 2002 AUMF as it's been in my tagline for months and commented dozens of times but guess we missed each other. Others have mentioned it too. It's the obvious thing to do as it goes to the foundation of military force authority rather than niggling around with cutting the Iraq war funds. The 2001 AUMF also needs to be rewritten to focus authority solely on fighting Taliban in Afghanistan -- and nowhere else.

        Good for you for writing Boxer. She's my Senator, too, and I wrote her (and Feinstein) a similar letter saying the same thing.

        FYI, a provision to rescind the 2002 AUMF is included in Rep. Lynn Woolsey's HR 508 legislation. Can't believe Bush got Congress over the barrel of a national debate about a "surge" when we should be talking about the AUMFs!


        Take away his license to drive the Iraq war wagon -- Sunset the AUMF!

        •  Sorry. So much to read, so little time. (3+ / 0-)
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          gogol, bablhous, TomP

          However, great minds...

          Actually it was a link digby put up from someone else, but I thought it was a terrific idea.

          Thanks for the heads up on Woolsey's HR 508.  Sounds like Shrub has a nifty distraction (surge) to prevent Congress from recognizing and addressing the real problem.

          Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, fanatical, criminal. - Supertramp, "The Logical Song"

          by mentaldebris on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 07:44:14 PM PST

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    •  Fully appreciate that, except (1+ / 0-)
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      that's what the Constitution already says.  This administration will not change course without impeachment or the credible threat of it.

      Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

      by Simplify on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 06:37:02 PM PST

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  •  There is no justification (46+ / 0-)

    for any sort of compromise here.
    The calls for "bipartisanship" are smply yet another attempt for the Republicans to shift the blame for the Iraq debacle from where it rightly belongs: on the shoulders of the Bush administration.
    We did not work to revert control of the Congress to the Democratic Party to enable "bipartisan" bait-and-switch, and half measures.
    Defund. Redeploy.
    No other option is acceptable.
    Thank you, Senator, for standing your ground.

  •  What are the Senators, who support the war, (7+ / 0-)
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    saying around the water fountain?

  •  I disagree with that interpretation (3+ / 0-)
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    jimreyn, dzhessi, AJ WI

    saying that the sense of the senate that there shouldn't be an "*immediate* reduction in, or withdrawal of, the present level of forces." does not automatically equal agreement with Bush that troops should remain indefinitely (in fact, the sense of the congress resolution says the complete opposite:

    (12) our overall military, diplomatic and economic strategy should not be regarded as an "openended" or unconditional commitment,

  •  Disagree (8+ / 0-)

    I agree with that the resolution is a step in the right direction: Political Action

                        PRESS RELEASE FOR:    

    Statement by Political Action

    on Warner-Levin Iraq Compromise

    The following is a statement by Political Action Washington Director, Tom Matzzie:

    We are pleased the Senate is headed to a bipartisan vote disagreeing with President Bush's escalation in Iraq. This is an important first step towards Congress blocking the escalation and stopping the war.

    The compromise language would not constrain the Congress from using all of its powers to stop the escalation and force President Bush to implement an exit plan. The "power of the purse" has been wrongly caricatured as "cutting off the troops." That has never happened in U.S. history nor should it. However, Congress has several times used its powers to stop a president's use of military force.

    If, after the vote, the president fails to respond to the will of a bipartisan majority in Congress, the American people and the Iraq Study Group then the Congress must without hesitation use all of its powers to stop President Bush and get America out of Iraq.


    Opposition is a good first step but Congress must stop President Bush.

  •  Senator that is beyond mistake (26+ / 0-)

    bordering on malfeasance and negligence.  Your resolution is the true lawful and constitutional action that needs to be undertaken by your colleagues.  The troops need to be used in pursuit of policies that are in alignment with our national interests and that is not in Iraq.  The Congress needs to stop the non-binding weaknesses and act as a co-equal branch of government.

    Please keep fighting the Good Fight!

    Every time history repeats itself the price goes up - Anon.

    by Pithy Cherub on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:33:23 PM PST

  •  Thank you for all you're doing. (13+ / 0-)

    Please keep it up.

    The only way to get our troops home is your bill to cut the funding.  In time, Congress will come around, so long as we keep the pressure up.

    Thanks, again.  America is lucky to have you in the Senate!

    Stop the War NOW!

    by TomP on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:38:25 PM PST

  •  I thought weeks ago (9+ / 0-)

    That it was a ruse. They lose the "surge" fight and go on as usual. What's the friggin' win in that.

    Thanks, Senator Feingold. Ending this is the only right way to move forward.

  •  Leadership (14+ / 0-)

    is failing us in the Senate.  Compromises like this are a sign of weakness and nothing else.  Democrats are on the right side on Iraq.  In this case, the right side is the winning side.  

    What is the senate leadership afraid of?

    There is in the nature of things an unchangeable relation between rash counsels and feeble execution. -- Daniel Webster 1812

    by SimplyLeft on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:39:27 PM PST

    •  Why, why, why ... (5+ / 0-)
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      ... are Democrats so deathly afraid of being STRONG -- of taking a stand and fighting for it?

      I honestly don't get it.  Do they really believe that their landslide victory in the November elections was due to the American people desperately craving wishy-washy leadership?  

      How can the message be any less clear?  Or to put it another way:  At this point how can we spell it out any more clearly?

  •  Stop Escalation or Endorse Stay the Course (8+ / 0-)

    That's exactly it.

    And what a wonderful strategy on the part of Bush, to respond to the likelihood of resistance to staying the course in Iraq now, by applying more force (preemptively, of course) to cancel out resistance. He gets what he wanted or what he says he wants either way.

    Credit where it is due.

    9/11 + 4 Years = Katrina... Conservatism Kills.

    by NewDirection on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:40:24 PM PST

  •  Thank you for doing the right thing!! (7+ / 0-)
  •  Russ, you're always ahead of the curve (13+ / 0-)

    it must get lonely, being the point-man on actual sanity.
    Rock on.

  •  Russ, you da man!!!! (10+ / 0-)

    Stop these bastads, and panzy ass Democrats...  what the hell do they have to lose?


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    by pacified on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:40:58 PM PST

  •  It must be so difficult (9+ / 1-)

    to continue fighting this battle mostly alone. Know that there are millions upon millions of us out here Senator that back you.

    Not one more Dime for this illegal occupation disaster.

    Frodo failed....Bush has got the ring!

    by Alohaleezy on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:41:05 PM PST

  •  Senator Feingold. . . (40+ / 0-)

    Please remind our Senate Democrats that the President of the United States, so far, has refused to listen to any of the following regarding Iraq:

    • His generals
    • An array of academics and military experts
    • The Iraq Study Group
    • The American People
    • His dad
    • The Pope. . .

    I could go on and on. The main point here is simple. These "non-binding" resolutions are simply a waste of time and mean nothing. You seem to understand that, but why the rest of the Senate Democratic Caucus can't is beyond me.

    End this war. Impeach this President. Defend our Constitution. Save our country.

    The Republican Party: Keeping America Fact-Free Since 2001

    by IndyScott on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:44:02 PM PST

  •  colleagues over consituents (5+ / 0-)

    the war could be ended- public opinion is massively so. but, the dems are the corporate colleagues of the republicans, both groups working for the same moneyed interests in the end, and the dems chose corroboration instead of constituent service. the dems were genuinely moved to not hurt any republicans here.

  •  All I can say, Senator, is thank you so much (7+ / 0-)

    for courageously and straightforwardly voicing the concerns of so many Americans, myself included. You give me hope.

  •  Dammit man (17+ / 0-)

    run for President, PLEEEEEZZZEEEE!

    D-Day, the newest blog on the internet (at the moment of its launch)

    by dday on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:46:36 PM PST

  •  It's past time for action (13+ / 0-)

    The situation in Iraq is desparate.  It's too little too late to be talking about a rebuke to a president who is clearly not going to listen to Congress anyway.  This is no time for appeasement of an out of control executive branch.  Sen Feingold is correct that the time has come to end our military involvement.  Before the war expands to Iran.

    •  Turn the "benchmarks" device against Bush (4+ / 0-)

      I'm increasingly concerned that Congress is wasting precious time dithering about the Surge and that if we don't start pulling our troops out of Iraq now the Bush Administration is going to pull us into a larger and much more destructive conflict with Iran, probably with iIraq as the first battleground. We may have just a few months before this happens.

      If Congressional Dems take the first step towards preventing this by de-funding the war effort it will be a morally laudable action, but it won't accomplish enough: the Administration will find a way to work around it and their noise machine will demonize Dems for "not supporting our troops."

      But what if we called on the Maliki government to take the first step? Maliki has already told Nancy Pelosi he wants US troops out of Iraq and hopes the departure of at least 50,000 can be arranged before the end of 2008. And Maliki is very alarmed that US operations against Iranian "subversion" in Iran are going to spill out of control and turn Iraq into a US-Iranian battleground.

      So it would be entirely appropriate if Maliki now issued his own "benchmark" as condition for further cooperation with the Americans. He can stipulate that he will demand the withdrawal of US forces if, within the next three months, the Americans don't engage Iran diplomatically to restore relations and defuse the conflict.

      This would pose a real challenge to the Bush Administration, in that:
      -- it would test whether they're really prepared to treat the elected government in Baghdad as fully sovereign, capable of insisting on its own benchmarks for cooperation;
      -- it would test whether Bush and Cheney really WANT to achieve the conditions making withdrawal of US troops possible (I suspect they don't want to, that the whole purpose of this war was to permanently vassalize Iraq and establish permanent bases there. So this could help expose to the world the true war aims of the Administration).
      -- If Bush publicaly refuses even to engage Iran in diplomacy it will be a lot harder for him to convince Congress and the electorate there is no alternative but to resort to war against Iran.

      I'm not so sanguine as to think such a benchmark (i.e., ultimatum) would immdediately end the war, but it would further discredit and isolate the Administration and make it harder for it to escalate the conflict. Every little bit helps.

  •  Carl Levin is my senator (12+ / 0-)

    I respect him for his hard work and diligence in trying to get to the bottom of the lies that led us into Iraq.

    That said, I agree with Senator Feingold: his resolution doesn't go far enough. I'm going to contact Senator Levin and ask him to keep the door open to stronger legislation if when the president gives the legislative branch the middle finger.

    "Not only is it in our power, it is our obligation to stop Bush."--Rep. John Conyers (D-MI)

    by Dump Terry McAuliffe on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:47:16 PM PST

    •  Levin's My Senator Too & I'll Write (Again) (5+ / 0-)

      I just wrote him this week to urge he oppose a surge and work for quick troop withdrawal.  

      I plan to write him again, quoting the second paragraph of Senator Feingold's post, & ask him to comment.  I wish the MI Dems would hold town halls and listen to the people who elected them.  Sometimes I think they've been in DC so long they've lost touch with the people they're supposed to represent.

      The Congress continues to tiptoe around the President that is unapologetically usurping their Constitutional authority, seemingly more concerned about Bush's opinion of them than they are about the opinions of their constituents.  

  •  This belongs on the front page! (12+ / 0-)

    Kos?  McJoan?  Front page this, please.

    Stop the War NOW!

    by TomP on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:47:17 PM PST

  •  Have you a PLAN FOR IRAN? (12+ / 0-)

    Better said, a plan to prevent Bush from taking us to war there?

    I agree with your bill completely.

    I hope you will address the Iran situation as well.

    Thank you!

    PS  Thanks for answering my question the last time!

    •  It's all politics for the WH (1+ / 0-)
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      I believe this is another of their dare-to-step-up-to-the-plate test for the Dems to see if they are willing to stand up to the president.  There is no other logical reason that they would escalate this conflict to include Iran.  Sure they see that attacking Iran would provoke a regional conflagration, but they just don't care.  If they can hang Iran around the Democrats neck, they are going to do it.  

      We must get out in front on this Iran business before it is too late.

    •  This is what is really worrying me. (2+ / 0-)
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      Of course, Iraq worried me too but I think we are looking at the entire middle east up in flames if he attacks Iran.

      Many of us said invading Iraq would result in disaster. I'm waiting for the apology.

      by lecsmith on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:57:15 PM PST

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  •  Senator Feingold, a question on your bill (14+ / 0-)

    supposing the Senate passes your bill on scheduling redeployment within 6 months, how do you plan to move forward when the President vetoes?

    Second, would it be more feasible to vote to repeal the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq?  Thank you.

  •  your bill is the right one (8+ / 0-)

    Thank you for your hard work, Senator.  You're right again: the time for conversations, disagreements and non-binding senses of the Senate has passed.  If Congress doesn't want an expansion of this war AND a new war in Iran, it will have to force the president's hand before it's too late.  

    We'll push for your bill as hard as we can.

    So here is us, on the raggedy edge. Don't push me, and I won't push you. -- Mal, "Serenity"

    by exiled texan on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:48:58 PM PST

  •  What's the point of the legislation? (5+ / 0-)

    It seems like there isn't one and I am sick to death of congress passing legislation that does absolutely nothing to change the course we're on. Thanks for the info and I'll be sure to write my Senator and tell him to support your legislation.

  •  Senator,,,,, (27+ / 0-)

    We in WI could not possibly be more proud of you.  

    Please remind the cowards in Congress to check the polls - WE, the people who elect them, are in the majority in wanting out of Iraq.  We also think Congress is not doing enough to accomplish that.  We are also very sick of George Bush and his destructive regime.  Poll after poll is telling our elected officials what we want, and still they won't listen.

    What the hell will it take?  Do you need pitchforks?  Two thirds of the country is begging the Democrats to stand up, take charge, and get us the hell out.  And still they don't listen.  Who exactly do we have to pay, and how much will it cost?

    Never did I believe the majority of politicians were bought and paid for, but I do now.  And they can blame themselves for that.  

    I know I'm crying in the wind here, but if you could find it in your heart to rethink a Presidential run, you won't have to worry about votes.  You'll get them, and more staff than you can shake a stick at.

    "But your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore"--Prine 3080+ dead Americans. Bring them home.

    by Miss Blue on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:49:35 PM PST

  •  And for those wondering (4+ / 0-)

    "Pull out immediate" is still a view shared by only a few Americans:

    Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg  Poll.  Jan. 13-16, 2007. N=1,344 adults nationwide.  MoE ± 3.   RV = registered voters

    "In your opinion, should the United States withdraw troops from Iraq right away, or should the U.S. begin bringing troops home within the next year, or should troops stay in Iraq for as long as it takes to win the war?"

    Withdraw Right Away - 19%
    Withdraw Within Year- 46%
    Stay as Long As It Takes - 30%

    Clearly, there isn't stomach to stay in Iraq much longer, but one could argue that Feingold's position is actually less popular than Bush's

  •  Russ, please run for President! (9+ / 0-)

    I'll change the quote below...

    JRE 2008 "We should ask the American people to be patriotic about something other than war." -John Edwards

    by CA JAY on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:50:04 PM PST

  •  Feingold, a Democrat with balls (10+ / 0-)

    we need more like you.

  •  1776 is Calling (13+ / 0-)

    1776 is calling, it's pissed, and it wants the country back.

    Senator Feingold, you are doing the right thing. I don't know how you stop the "non-binding" resolution-of-appeasement juggernaut without being branded as not toeing the Democratic line, but I know you will find a way.

    I suspect you will need to muster all the fiery oratory that you can.


  •  Senator Feingold -- (13+ / 0-)

    I support your legislation wholeheartedly.  I'd call the Warner/Levin resolution a joke, except it's not funny.

    I don't know how much of Daily Kos you read, Senator, but I hope you'll take a few minutes out of your day and read this.  It's a diary written by one of our own who's been serving in Iraq and who is facing being sent back again next year.

    What is being done not only to our troops but to Iraq and the Middle East is nothing short of criminal.  It has to be stopped, and talking about it isn't going to stop it.  Non-binding resolutions aren't going to stop it, either.  If Congress has to ACT.  And soon.

    Whatever help you need, please just tell us what it is.

    Impeach the Cheerleader, save the world -- h/t deepfish

    by Mehitabel9 on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:52:00 PM PST

  •  Damnit, Senator (6+ / 0-)

    Will you just announce your candidacy for the Presidency already?

    Sure, we all heard you say you're not running, but you didn't REALLY mean it, did you?

  •  Keep hammering away at them Sen. Feingold (8+ / 0-)

    No matter what happens we need your voice in the Senate. Don't bend, we need to do the right thing and bring our troops home from Iraq ASAP!

    Obama? '08? Oh yea!

    by Skulnick on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:53:59 PM PST

  •  Please STOP this madness - before the last ship (14+ / 0-)

    get's off the coast.  I watch CSPAN and read a lot.. looks like the crooks are just "buying time" to wait until their ships are in place to attack or be attacked.  My Nephew, Navy, is on one of those carriers directly in harms way.

    WHAT FOLLY - WHAT MADNESS - has taken over my once great Country - to start WARS of CHOICE for OIL and PROFIT - at the PEOPLE's EXPENSE?

    What deriliction of duty - for ALL involved - Bu$hCo & CONGRESS & MEDIA & MILITARY.  Truth has long gone out the window on these guys.

    My Father, and forefathers, did not spend their lives defending our Country for THIS.

    PLEASE - find a way for PEACE & NEGOTIATION.

    • Thomas Paine said,
    "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."

  •  Please do not compromise on this! The American (9+ / 0-)

    public is strongly in favor of ending the war.  We will support courageous action by the Congress.

  •  Senator Feingold, thank you (18+ / 0-)

    for doing your job.  It seems silly to have to thank you for doing your job, but compared to the malfeasance of your collegues, a "thank you" seems appropriate.

    I traveled from Florida to Washington this weekend to participate in the protest march.  This resolution is not the result I was looking for.  

    Please press upon your fellow Democrats that they need to stand up, snap on their spines, and take meaningful action against this escalation.

    Anything else in unacceptable.

    Any party that would lie to start a war would also steal an election.

    by landrew on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:54:55 PM PST

  •  Senator Feingold, as the Senate continues to (8+ / 0-)

    work on issues related to Iraq, I hope that you will ensure that the Bush administration is required to keep complete records and give a full accounting of how any additional appropriations for U.S. ventures in the Middle East are spent. Please do not allow any more of these funds to disappear into thin air through fraud and war profiteering.

  •  Either bill opens the door, but yours is better (7+ / 0-)

    for cutting off the funding for this war.

    Ultimately, it comes down to that.

    Bush is stalling for time until March when he can launch a strike on Iran and add an occupation there of the gas fields and the Straits of Hormuz.

    He has NO authorization for a NEW war but he will launch it anyway.  A disapproval in the Senate, followed by a House of Representatives vote and taking the funding for the Iraq adventure down as completed militarily is a start.

    If there are even 50-49 votes for your bill, let the Repubs filibuster. See where it gets them. Not very far.

    The funding cutoff for the Iraq war (no additional funds for escalation, funds to redeploy or repatriate) will arrive MUCH sooner with your bill.

    This is the moment freedom begins, the moment you realize someone else has been writing your story...

    by Pete Rock on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 01:55:14 PM PST

  •  Doesn't Anyone Remember (27+ / 0-)

    How the original Iraq War Resolution was spun in the first place?

    Back then, it was necessary to give Bush the leverage he needed to force Saddam into complying with inspections, so we wouldn't have to go to war.

    Now, it's repealed our whole system of government.

    It's bad enough what this resolution actually says, as you've pointed out, Senator.  Even worse is what Bush is going to claim that it says.

  •  Senator Feingold, After Reading The PFD I Also (17+ / 0-)

    found several of the statements in the Warner-Levin resolution which could be interpreted as an open ended commitment for the continued occupation of Iraq. This is not in the best interest of our country and I applaud you for your stand against this resolution.

    Also, I hope you and your Democratic colleagues are aware that the same techniques used to generate support for military action against Iraq are currently being employed to generate support for bombing Iran. Please take whatever action is necessary to stop this administration from fraudulently taking military action against another country. We want out of Iraq and not more bloodshed in Iran.

  •  I think there will be more opposition to this (12+ / 0-)

    particular resolution. I just read the following AP report:

    Sen. Russ Feingold (news, bio, voting record), D-Wis., issued a statement criticizing the nonbinding measure as weak, and said it "misunderstands the situation in Iraq and shortchanges our national security interests. The resolution rejects redeploying U.S. troops and supports moving a misguided military strategy from one part of Iraq to another," he said.

    Separately, Sen. Chris Dodd of Connecticut, a 2008 presidential contender, called a news conference to announce his opposition.

    Dodd's decision underscored a dilemma confronting other presidential hopefuls in the Senate - whether to support the measure backed by the party leadership, or oppose it and seek support among anti-war activists likely to have influence in next year's presidential primaries and caucuses.

    I doubt Kerry and others who have called for our troops to be redeployed will heartily support this compromise resolution. I guess we will have to call senator's offices and see where they stand.

  •  are you sure you wont reconsider (6+ / 0-)

    not running for president?

    Donald Driver for Wisconsin - Senate 2008 (Feingold for President)

    by Groper on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 02:00:42 PM PST

  •  All this effort to water down a nonbinding (15+ / 0-)

    resolution is pure THEATRE. Thank you, Sen. Feingold for stepping up and exposing it for just that.
    Why have Levin and other Democratic Senators sold out? What do they have to gain by watering it down so much that it prevents the defunding of the escalation and the need to redeploy troops soon.

    I am VERY disgusted with this process. And Dems don't deserve our support if they fall for this.

  •  Senator Feingold (20+ / 0-)

    Please remind your Democratic colleagues that our "Democratic Majority" means nothing the moment the first shell hits Tehran.

    Tell them to act now. Before it's too late.

    The Republican Party: Keeping America Fact-Free Since 2001

    by IndyScott on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 02:02:36 PM PST

  •  ON the Iraq Study Group.... (4+ / 0-)
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    roses, kaye, Jbeaudill, Phil N DeBlanc

    I think you ought to reconsider, and use it as a vehicle to get others to support diplomatic efforts as we redeploy troops. There is a lot of political currency in the ISG to use.

  •  I don't want to gush or anything... (8+ / 0-)

    ...but the fact that there are people like Russ Feingold in the US Senate gives me just a little hope that we will get through this in one piece.

    Senator Feingold, if you ever change your mind and decide to run for President, I'll quit my job and come work for your campaign for free.

  •  Thank you, (6+ / 0-)

    President Feingold. (I wish).

    My two senators--especially the one who's trying to be the first female president--will certainly be hearing from me about this.

    And on top of that, I'm gonna throw a few more bucks to your Progressive Patriots. You're fighting the real fight, Senator, and we love you for it!

    •  I just emailed (3+ / 0-)
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      both Schumer and Clinton and will try to follow-up with calls tomorrow. I'm glad to see Kos's front-page post on this issue too. Getting this Congress to do the right thing in Iraq has got to be the absolute focus of our energies.

      Great, too, to see Dodd joining Feingold in this. Feingold's been the lone voice howling in the wind for too long. We need to get the entire Dem caucus to unite behind him. Like Kos said, what have we got to lose--a non-binding resoution?

  •  YES, Dear Senator. And I called Levin to say so (10+ / 0-)

    earlier today.

    Thank you ,  thank you, thank you.  It must be hard being our only voice-all too often.

    But we SOOOOOOO  appreciate what you are doing.

  •  Where's Sherrod Brown on this? (5+ / 0-)

    Is Senator Brown supporting your efforts, or is going with Warner-Levin? I'm his constituent, so I can get the message out to him that I'd like him to get on your side. Maybe it ain't much, but it's what I can do.

    What else can we do to help, Senator Feingold?

    Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

    by Buckeye Hamburger on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 02:06:17 PM PST

  •  I am dismayed (12+ / 0-)

    that the Senate seems to be wussing out to the minority. We need a Senate that understands what the election of '06 means. It means AMERICA IS READY FOR A NEW DIRECTION.

    Sen Feingold, you and a handful of other Senators seem to get it. The rest need to be bullied, cajoled, humiliated and otherwise convinced to do the will of the people.

    We have only a small window of opportunity here. The Repug spin machine is already framing Iraq as a bipartisan problem. Place the blame where it belongs: with Bush and the neocons--then get us the hell out!

  •  Too Long (15+ / 0-)

    Too long, have those who said they would serve the public, ended up ONLY serving themselves...

    Too long, have those who championed the poor and defenseless, have only left them with hollow promises of resolve and restitution...

    Too long, has the politics of Washington been replaced with the meaningless language of gang warfare between Republican and Democrat...

    Too long, has selfishness replaced Patriotism and the wealthy are now served by the poor...

    Too long, has the voices of intolerance been silent and only seek the spotlight when it is convenient to their advantage...

    HITLER was a tyrant, but at least the world recognized the threat of his vindictive ways, and for that the world rose up and fought to restore the rights of those who were oppressed...

    SADDAM was a brutal dictator that tortured his people. His removal, although necessary, WAS NOT our job and as such the quagmire that we are in exists today...

    OSAMA is a terrorist that killed Americans. But thanks to ALL major news outlets, he has been pushed to the back pages of history and only brought up when attempting to justify THIS war!

    BUSH is no less dangerous than all of these men. However, because he says he doesn’t (when his actions clearly prove otherwise) they (Congress) allow him to continue this destructive past. Many have the separation & gang mentality. REPUBLICANS vs. DEMOCRATS!!! NOT Americans, but dedication and allegiance to a party affiliation?

    How many liberties must be lost, How man deaths are enough, How many atrocities will be committed before OUR CONGRESS decides to end or at least attempt to halt these crimes?

    I see that ONE Senator gets it, but as in any fight for truth...He is alone!!!

    Thank you, SENATOR FEINGOLD!!!  

  •  HuffPro just had story up more like 50,000 troops (10+ / 0-)

    in the surge because they didn't mention the support personell at first.
    (insert &^%$#$%^*()(&^$%# expletive)

    Plus consider Bush made passing reference in State of Union to increasing use of private contractors (called it something else but it meant that) to make up for shortfalls in actual troop strength.

    They plan to escalate this war. Put Your Foot Down And Say No. What the hell is wrong with the rest of the holdouts?

  •  Absolutely Senator (11+ / 0-)

    What in Gawd's name is Senator Levin thinking? this is a travesty.

  •  Remind me never to play poker with Senate Dems (5+ / 0-)

    they have no idea how to play the game. This resolution could likely be acceptable to the Bush Administration. They will have to submit reports every 30 days; annoying but so what?
    They have effectively ended the ability to defund the escalation because Bush is already putting the troops on the ground and the resolution refuses to defund any troops there. They have given away the store. Idiots.

  •  Keep at'em, Russ. (4+ / 0-)
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    We appreciate it.

  •  Thanks for cutting through the bullshit, Senator (7+ / 0-)

    I am proud to have you as my senator and you can always count on my door time and my ca$h whenever you run for office. I will ask your senior colleague to join you.

  •  Obama's (BINDING) resolution--what do you think? (3+ / 0-)
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    Thanks much, Senator Feingold, for fighting the good fight. There are Democrats in the Senate who fight and those who sit back and let others walk all over them--you're one of the ones who fight, and I respect and support you because of it.

    Earlier this week, Senator Obama introduced a binding and comprehensive resolution to not only stop the escalation but also to begin a phased re-deployment of service men and women out of Iraq. Here are the key points of his bill:

    Key Elements of Obama Plan

    Stops the Escalation: Caps the number of U.S. troops in Iraq at the number in Iraq on January 10, 2007. This does not affect the funding for our troops in Iraq. This cap has the force of law and could not be lifted without explicit Congressional authorization.

    De-escalates the War with Phased Redeployment: Commences a phased redeployment of U.S. troops out of Iraq not later than May 1, 2007, with the goal that all combat brigades redeploy from Iraq by March 31, 2008, a date consistent with the expectation of the Iraq Study Group. This redeployment will be both substantial and gradual, and will be planned and implemented by military commanders. Makes clear that Congress believes troops should be redeployed to the United States; to Afghanistan; and to other points in the region. A residual U.S. presence may remain in Iraq for force protection, training of Iraqi security forces, and pursuit of international terrorists.

    Enforces Tough Benchmarks for Progress: These 13 benchmarks are based on President Bush's own statements and Administration documents and include:

    Security: Significant progress toward fulfilling security commitments, including eliminating restrictions on U.S. forces, reducing sectarian violence, reducing the size and influence of the militias, and strengthening the Iraqi Army and Police.

    Political Accommodation: Significant progress toward reaching a political solution, including equitable sharing of oil revenues, revision of de-Baathification, provincial elections, even-handed provision of government services, and a fair process for a constitutional amendment to achieve national reconciliation.

    Economic Progress: Requires Iraq to fulfill its commitment to spend not less than $10 billion for reconstruction, job creation, and economic development without regard for the ethnic or sectarian make-up of Iraqi regions.

    Should these benchmarks be met, the plan allows for the temporary suspension of this redeployment, subject to the agreement of Congress.

    Congressional oversight: Requires the President to submit reports to Congress every 90 days describing and assessing the Iraqi government's progress in meeting benchmarks and the redeployment goals.

    Intensified Training: Intensifies training of Iraqi security forces to enable the country to take over security responsibility of the country.

    Conditions on Economic Assistance: Conditions future economic assistance to the Government of Iraq on significant progress toward achievement of benchmarks. Allows exceptions for humanitarian, security, and job-creation assistance.

    Regional Diplomacy: Launches a comprehensive regional and international diplomatic initiative - that includes key nations in the region - to help achieve a political settlement among the Iraqi people, end the civil war in Iraq, and prevent a humanitarian catastrophe and regional conflict. Recommends the President should appoint a Special Envoy for Iraq to carry out this diplomacy within 60 days. Mandates that the President submit a plan to prevent the war in Iraq from becoming a wider regional conflict.

    What are your thoughts on Obama's plan, and have you and he discussed the possibility of joining together to draft a stronger, more forceful call to end this war than the Warner/Levin messresolution?

  •  It's too bad (0+ / 0-)

    Captain Patriquin's plan hasn't been given more serious consideration. It's about the only thing that makes any sense. Maybe because it doesn't line the pockets of certain wealthy donors? Anyways, it's great to see at least one Senator who's not afraid to do the right thing!

    Everyone knows the Lowrider.

    by Hannibal on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 02:28:42 PM PST

  •  From what I can tell: (4+ / 0-)
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    Without disagreeing with your post, I would suggest that there were not enough votes for the Biden resolution to pass. Thus, the Warner/Levin resolution. But on the other hand, what is more important -- sending some kind of a message of disapproval on the escalation to Bush quickly, or putting the Republicans on record as supporting the Bush policies?

  •  While I am extremely grateful (14+ / 0-)

    to Senator Feingold that he keeps us informed, educated and requests our support, it bugs the hell out of me that time and again he must rally here for support BECAUSE HE DOESN'T GET IT FROM HIS PEER IN THE SENATE.

    Of course, we will put every effort and work together to bring this Middle East folly to an end, but I just can't bear that common sense and derringdo are in such short supply in the very people we rely on to protect us and uphold our Constitution.

    Damn it all!

  •  Senator Feingold (2+ / 0-)
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    Thanks for fighting the good fight, but Congress needs to quit pussyfooting around and pass something! Our men and women are dying with every delay. A non-binding resolution is a good start, but impeachment is a better end.

    [-6.25, -5.59] If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable.

    by Phil N DeBlanc on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 02:33:37 PM PST

  •  Thank you (3+ / 0-)
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    conchita, historys mysteries, TomP

    for supporting and sending a message to the antiwar march last weekend.  I hope to see you address the crowd in person at the next one!

    * 3084 *

    by BDA in VA on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 02:34:54 PM PST

  •  Thank You, Thank you, Thank you. (2+ / 0-)
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    mattes, TomP

    You are so far ahead of the curve on this one.  Keep trying to get them to catch up!

  •  Scott Ritter has some ideas (3+ / 0-)
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    miriam, Easterling, TomP

    about a new Boland Amendment.

    We don't have time for short-term thinking.

    by Compound F on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 02:42:15 PM PST

  •  Senator (5+ / 0-)
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    we'll do everything in our power to help you with your resolution. I'm firmly convinced yours is the only way to get this administration to abandon the Iraq debacle.

    I'm so disappointed that the leadership is pushing the Levin/Warner resolution. We'll fight back.

  •  Thank you Senator (3+ / 0-)
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    assyrian64, TomP, Fiona West

    We need the Senate to stand up so that our troops can stand down.

    We need to "expressly prohibt" funding for Bush's escalation.

  •  I really respect Feingold... (2+ / 0-)
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    blueoasis, TomP

    and don't know if there's any point in continuing my Senate Escalation Debate diary series after reading this.

  •  off this topic, but, true nonetheless... (2+ / 0-)
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    bee tzu, TomP


    thank you for the diary and for your courage; it is good to see the good guys have at least one in the battle...

    please take a look at this diary; i have drafted it for you and it only awaits your filing it with the clerk...

    To Senator Feingold: Censure Cheney for Violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act

  •  Thank You (n/t) (2+ / 0-)
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  •  I personally don't think Bush can be trusted (3+ / 0-)
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    or anyone in his administration for that matter. Not one of them is credible, and have they ever had Americans interests in mind with this insane occupation? No. I think if they are not stopped, impeached, or whatever it takes, we will be deep into World War 3 soon. The rhetoric about Iran is exactly the same lies they used in the runup to invading Iraq. 2 draft dodging cowards playing wargames, and playing politics with American lives for years on end. Its plain sickening to hear either Bush or Cheney spewing their garbage, they have no clue what they are talking about and they have never once been right. They won't think twice about throwing another 3000 body bags on the pile. Get em, Senator Feingold.

  •  Senator, (3+ / 0-)
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    bee tzu, Jbeaudill, TomP

    May I suggest benchmarks on the funding.

    I think it will get worse and this will force w to redeploy.

    Also, the hydrocarbon law should benefit the Iraqi people not big oil companies.

    Thank you for being the only Senator with balls.

  •  Senator Russ (5+ / 0-)

    You are representing the 70+% of us who GET IT!


  •  Thank you so much for this (3+ / 0-)
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    and thank you for being a principled politician of which we have so few.

    The Senate needs many more like you!  

    If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy - James Madison

    by CTLiberal on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 02:51:25 PM PST

  •  We're with you, Senator. (7+ / 0-)

    As bad as things have been, I have this horrible feeling they are about to get several orders of magnitude worse.  I am, of course, referring to our coming war with Iran.  Coming, that is, unless steps are taken to prevent it.  I have no idea what those steps should be.  But I do know it is past time to draw a line in the sand with this administration.  Hell, Bush doesn't pay attention to LAWS!  What could a non-binding resolution possibly accomplish???

    The constitutional crisis is here.  It has been here since December 12, 2000.  I have a hunch you already figured that out.  

    "...the big trouble with dumb bastards is that they are too dumb to believe there is such a thing as being smart." -- Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

    by Roddy McCorley on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 02:51:31 PM PST

  •  Senator: What about the Kurds-Turkey conflict? (3+ / 0-)
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    Senator -- I'm a big fan.

    Would your bill allow re-deployment of American troops to the Kurd region, near the border with Turkey? I think that's the only realistic prospect of stopping a Kurd-Turkey war.

    Kurds take over Mosul and Kirkuk oilfields > Kurds declare national independence > Turkish Kurd separatists go nuts > Turkey invades > Turkey's bid for EU membership goes down the toilet > Islamists seize on EU rejection to intensify Islam v. west conflict.

    Putting US troops on the border would allow Turkey to deal with its own Kurd separatists while keeping the conflict from spreading into the Kurdish region of northern Iraq, and would reassure the Kurds there that they don't need to declare independence to be safe.

    -4.25, -4.87 "If the truth were self-evident, there would be no need for eloquence." -- Cicero

    by HeyMikey on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 02:53:00 PM PST

  •  Let's get to the end state (1+ / 0-)
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    American troops home,

    Iraq partitioned.

    The Democrats have a once in a generation chance to put down roots in the hearts and minds of the vast majority of Americans.

    by Paul Goodman on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 02:54:34 PM PST

  •  Passing a Limp Non Binding Resolution (4+ / 0-)
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    Passing a rather passe resolution which is not in any way legally binding leaves the door open far too wide.  

    The president, known for being so obtuse as to pretend he doesn't notice when hit in the face with a 3 day old haddock, will blow right past that.  I give you the November election where he led his party into a serious ass-kicking and he still refuses to acknowledge that. (OK, he noticed.  He now reserves the right to install a political officer in every agency.  Fucking commie, does he think he's in The Hunt For Red October?)

    He walked us into war because the congress was too busy primping for the press.  The time to stand up and smack him down affirmatively, without trepidation and certainly without backing down is now.  

    Whatever is passed needs to be so strong as to be unspinnable because we all know that W and his crowd will spend about 8 nano-seconds on doing something right, and the other 24/7 lying, deceiving, stealing, mocking, lawbreaking, etc.  Past behaviour dictates it.

  •  As one of your constituents (0+ / 0-)

    I'm glad for the work you're doing to stop the war, but the problem with your approach here is that it appears that the inadequate Warner-Levin resolution is the only thing that can pass the Senate at this point. If it fails, the Senate will have accomplished nothing, remaining silent on the war, which is exactly what Bush wants. Use the power of the purse, if you can. I'll be delighted if you succeed in doing so and thereby prove me wrong. But in the meantime I'd be happier if the Warner-Levin resolution, flawed though it is, passed.

    The Bush Family: 0 for 4 in Wisconsin

    by Korkenzieher on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:00:00 PM PST

    •  Warner-Levin resolution changes nothing (3+ / 0-)
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      blueoasis, Jbeaudill, MichiganGirl

      As long as Bush still has the $$$, he will dick around for another 2 years. Obama’s doesn’t address the real issue either, and therefore looks more like fluff.

      Russ is the only one addressing the real power that Congress has...they hold the purse strings. If there is enough pressure from the public, Feingold's legislation could pass...we need to put pressure on not only Democrats but on our Republicans...especially those up for re-election.

      We keep acquiescing our power over to the "leaders" who ARE SUPPOSED TO SERVE US. It has to stop.

      BTW, you are sure lucky to have such a great senator. Try living in my state and having one of the worst, Jon Kyl and one of the most corrupt, John McCain (don't believe the hype...the guy was never a maverick).

      I might just consider moving to Wisconsin.

      •  It's a first step (0+ / 0-)

        The Warner-Levin resolution is a first step. I agree that the money flow has to be stopped, but I don't think that's where you start the process. My preference is to pass the resolution, then pass Feingold's bill as soon as practicable.

        And BTW, check our weather before you move here as a political refugee. They say it'll be ten below zero or worse this weekend in Milwaukee...

        The Bush Family: 0 for 4 in Wisconsin

        by Korkenzieher on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:00:33 PM PST

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        •  Forgot about the weather (0+ / 0-)

          Well, you have the bad winters but I have the horrible summers that last 6 months of over 100 degrees and getting hotter with global warming. Stay warm. :)

          Back to the topic at hand, remember, the Warner-Levin resolution is non-binding. Which means it is a fluff political move with no meat.

          •  Agreed (0+ / 0-)

            The fact that the resolution is non-binding is part of the reason it's valuable. It's a way of starting to bring Republicans along at least in terms of rhetoric, to be followed by other legislation such as Feingold's that has some meat.

            I love Russ, but he's a lone wolf at times. He was the only senator to vote against the Patriot Act, and that's great. But it also means that sometimes he gets too far ahead of the crowd, and it's pretty hard to lead when that happens.

            And here's your climate/political solution. Think about how terrific Governor Napolitano is in winter, and come visit Feingold's home state in summer...

            The Bush Family: 0 for 4 in Wisconsin

            by Korkenzieher on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:30:15 PM PST

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  •  Stop Bush Now! (3+ / 0-)
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    What is happening to our Constitution, our country's reputation in the world, and our strength...the words "disaster", "catastrophe", "nightmare" don't begin to describe it.

    Thank you, Senator. You are our one beacon of hope.

    "Control of the initiative is control of the battle. In the alley, at the poker table or in politics. One must raise." David Mamet

    by coral on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:01:53 PM PST

  •  disaster, not a mistake (6+ / 0-)

    This compromise was NOT accidental. Senate Democrats in all their continued timidity have been heading in this direction for a few months.

    It is a disaster because (a) it does nothing to prevent the President from making matters worse, and (b) incrimental escalation almost always leads to more, once it is shown that opponents of escalation will not put a stop to it.

    Proud that you're refusing to buy into this disaster.

  •  You're spot on (2+ / 0-)
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    Senator. You have the only game in town. Thanks for your fight in this ;matter.

    Common Sense is not Common

    by RustyBrown on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:04:59 PM PST

  •  It's a shame your not running for President (5+ / 0-)
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    Levity, crushie, andydoubtless, blueoasis, TomP

    I was all set to volunteer on your campaign.


    The nine most dangerous words in the english language . . . "I'm George Bush, we're here to liberate your country"

    by TiredOfGOPLies on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:05:14 PM PST

    •  Me too. (3+ / 0-)
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      andydoubtless, blueoasis, TomP

      Seems the good ones (Gore and Feingold) are sitting this one out.

      I would sell my belongings to donate the max to a Gore/Feingold ticket.

    •  I finally get it: More effective in the Senate (0+ / 0-)

      I was disappointed when you said you weren't running for president, Sen. Feingold. But you were right. You will be far more effective being perhaps the one and only true leader in the entire U.S. Congress than you could possibly be if you chose to run for President. In the latter case, everything you did would be called "positioning" for your presidential run, catering to the "far left wing" of the party, blah, blah, blah.

      You are a man of true integrity. My admiration for you has no bounds.

      Man, I fuckin' hate politics.

      by Whigsboy on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 05:38:55 AM PST

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  •  Thx! Say, are your colleagues corrupt, or stupid? (5+ / 0-)
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    rlharry, blueyedace2, jimreyn, MO Blue, nixmale

    Whenever someone (usually you) suggests they do their jobs - like censuring the president when he breaks the law, or stop funding deadly policies that they and their constituents say they oppose - Reid is silent and Pelosi says "It's off the table!"

    They're seemingly in the majority, and yet they're much more concerned about their fear of some future attack-ad than they are in saving lives, or governing.

    If blatantly failing to uphold the Oath to defend the Constitution could disqualify a candidate as it should, you are the only one in Congress who could be re-elected.

  •  I respect you enormously but . . . (2+ / 0-)
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    dzhessi, JML9999

    Let the wimps go first, vote with them, let them get 60 or more votes, and then do the stronger resolutions and binding action - - but get some Republican cover first.

  •  Another voice against the non-binding resolution (4+ / 0-)
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    rlharry, bee tzu, Jbeaudill, TomP

    Senator Feingold, thank you. The President of this great nation has shown for years that he doesn't care what anyone thinks who doesn't agree with him. The only way to effect change here is to use the power of the purse to shut him down: the Warner/Levin resolution will just provide him with a good chuckle. "Oh, those silly Senators..."

  •  Courage is required (2+ / 0-)
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    blueoasis, TomP

    And Senator Feingold definitely has it.

    It is long past time in this country that we stop supporting politicians who tell us what we want to hear, only to turn around and sell us out in a look-good deal with the opponents while looking over their shoulder to see if we even noticed.

    Russ Feingold is just about the only one I see today who is interested in doing what is right instead of posing for the voters.

    "Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner." - James Bovard

    by Gasonfires on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:13:01 PM PST

  •  (a)(22) should be dealbreaker for Obama (2+ / 0-)
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    pHunbalanced, TomP

    We'll see what he does

  •  Oh, thank you... (2+ / 0-)
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    blueoasis, TomP

    This compromise is so wrong-headed!

    Keep up the good fight Senator!
    We are so with you!

    If you dance with the devil, then you haven't got a clue; 'Cause you think you'll change the devil, but the devil changes you. - illyia

    by illyia on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:16:29 PM PST

  •  Dear Senator Feingold (2+ / 0-)
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    I really can't believe Senators like Jim Webb, Jon Tester, and Senator Harry Reid would sign on to a non-binding resolution if they believed it prohibited subsequent binding legislation.

    I just read Section 22.  It says the resolution should not be construed as a precursor for immediate withdrawal of troop.  Ok. Fine.

    But I see nothing there at all that prohibits Jim Webb from fulfilling his promise to America to bring about the "Proper Conclusion" to the war in Iraq.

    I am going to be clear in my opinion on this and with all due respect, you are right and on the cutting edge here with respect to your piece of legislation, but I don't understand your reluctance to support legislation written by your colleague, Sen. Levin.  I guess I just don't understand why the incremental approach can't be supported concurrently with your more aggressive approach.

    But if the non-binding resolution is defeated, as you suggest it should be, and then you suddenly have the votes for your resolution, then I'll eat my hat, and celebrate the end date on Bush's failed policies in Iraq.

    Good Luck.

  •  The only thing worse (10+ / 0-)

    than a non-binding resolution is a watered-down non-binding reslolution.  I cannot believe that in the face of 11% approval ratings for this disaterouly conceived escalation, the Dems think they need to pussy-foot around with this gentle scolding.  

    What did the country tell the Democratic Party on November 7?  That we want 20% increase in the same policies that we had on November 6?

    Good grief, if the Party still thinks it needs to play nice with the Whiate House in order to sway GOP senators, then the Party has learned nothing.  

    This is categorically embarrassing.

  •  Senator, please don't come home for a while! (3+ / 0-)
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    3goldens, Polacolor, TomP

    Channel 15's weatherman in Madison is predicting 10-15 below zero temps next week, and we need you to stay toasty warm!


    The only way to win a war is to prevent it.--attributed to Sec. George Marshall

    by Ice Blue on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:27:10 PM PST

  •  Oh my God. This lets Bush continue to do... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...anything he wants!  This can't possibly be read to be a compromise.

    My first reaction is...who got paid off?

    Thank you, Senator Feingold, for your wonderful efforts.

    "I think once they get in harm's way, Congress's tradition is to support those troops." --Stephen J. Hadley

    by dov12348 on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:30:52 PM PST

    •  Senator Feingold, I agree with dov...I give up (0+ / 0-)

      I am just about to give up, and stop fighting and writing and giving $$ to Dems who have no courage. I think you should truly start a new party, call it the Courage Party, or the Cajones Party, and get Jack Murtha, and Jim Webb and Conyers and some other representatives who have the guts to make the tough decisions for our nation.

      I bet you this Courage Party would be as strong as the Democratic Party and give even independents who are sick of this insanity a place to go.

      I can dream, can't I???

      My file on Adigal: Another one of them left wing girls way too smart for our own good. Her phones need to be monitored.

      by adigal on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 08:44:02 AM PST

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  •  Please run for President (3+ / 0-)
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    arkdem, andydoubtless, MichiganGirl

    Even if you dont win,  at least you will change the conversation.

    I was sad Gov Dean did not win but he accomplished so much when he ran,  and change the conversation and was not afraid to tell the truth,  and others followed.

    Please run.  You have been fearless in exposing the hypocrisy of Patriot act, campaign finance, etc.

  •  please run for president (2+ / 0-)
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    andydoubtless, maralenenok

    you have been the only senator with guts to stand up against something popular (especially the patriot act and the Iraq War).

  •  Senator Feingold, (6+ / 0-)

    What in the hell is the matter with the Dems.  First, they were a minority so we had to be understanding of why they couldn't do anything.  Now they are a majority in both houses and they still can't do anything.  Are Webb, Brown and Testor supporting you?  They need to speak out.  And what is on the horizon?  Holy mother of God, DLC Clinton. You have to reconsider running for the President or talk Gore into it.  We cannot stand another 2, 4, 6, 8 years of Republican rule by the Democrats.  We have to get rid of the old guard - have to.  Let us know what we can do to help.  We yell really loud.

    "Often it does seem a pity that Noah and his party did not miss the boat." Mark Twain

    by dkmich on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:35:16 PM PST

  •  Thank you for standing up (3+ / 0-)
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    and taking the leadership on this issue.

    I hope to see the same kind of message sent to the White House with regard to Iran.

  •  Never be afraid to state the obvious (2+ / 0-)
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    What is obvious to most of the country, if not in the Senate, is that the Iraq war was a mistake whose consequences get worse the longer is goes on and the more we thrash about to cover the initial errors.  

  •  Courage To Do What is Right (3+ / 0-)
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    nehark, 3goldens, Jbeaudill

    Thank you, Senator Feingold.  Even though the Democrats hold a slim and tenuous majority in the Senate, we still have the momentum from this past election.  A majority of Americans want us out of Iraq and believe our lawmakers have not been assertive enough in ending the war. Most Americans now know that this occupancy can't be "won" militarily, that it will take diplomacy with the involvement of neighboring countries.  And frankly we are sick and tired of the Vice President and President (and their cheerleaders) insulting our intelligence and motives for wanting our troops out of harm's way.  I can't wait for the investigations to reveal whose motives have been nefarious and even treasonous in the lead up and prosecution of this heartbreaking war.  In the meantime we are eternally grateful for your courage, and support you all the way!  And please, do whatever is in your power to stop them from starting another war with Iran.

    ...and they passed in thought out to regions where pain and delight flow together and tears are the very wine of blessedness.

    by rlharry on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:39:21 PM PST

  •  Exactly the right approach, Senator. (2+ / 0-)
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    3goldens, bee tzu

    Thank you for your ongoing efforts to end our occupation of Iraq. I fully support your plan.

  •  Senator, thanks just for doing your job. (0+ / 0-)

    And for performing the thankless task of pushing upstream against colleagues, most of whom, have wholly abdicated their dury to act in the interests of the people to whom they are responsible.  

    Withdrawing from Iraq is of course the only correct thing course under any circumstances. But
    If Warner/Levin is all this Senate can muster with Bush at approval at below 30 per cent and an overwhelming majority opposed to Iraq policy - in other words, with no political risk - then we are really past the point of no return.

    "No one else could ever be admitted here, since this gate was made only for you. I am now going to shut it."- Franz Kafka, "Before the Law"

    by normal family on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:41:05 PM PST

  •  Just batted this out to Sen. Levin... (5+ / 0-)
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    miriam, assyrian64, 3goldens, Jbeaudill, Azubia

    (he's my Senator)

    Dear Senator Levin: I just read the Warner-Levin bill. This can't possibly be a compromise in any sense -- it gives Bush full sanction to do anything he wants! We didn't vote the Democrats in to continue the war indefinitely -- we voted them in to get us out! How can you do this? Please reconsider. Thank you.

    "I think once they get in harm's way, Congress's tradition is to support those troops." --Stephen J. Hadley

    by dov12348 on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:41:29 PM PST

  •  Senator Fiengold (4+ / 0-)
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    rlharry, nehark, Jbeaudill, Polacolor

    I support and thank you for the only solution which will stop this insanity. I also urge you to repeal the AUMF. There is no way that any censures or non-binding resolutions are going to stop this out of control administration. For the sake of our constitutional republic please do not allow politics to rear it's ugly head. At this time we the people are asking you the congress to stop this unitary would be dictator.

  •  Senator Feingold (4+ / 0-)
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    artebella, rlharry, nehark, Superpole

    First of all, thank you (or your staff) for taking the time to post this diary. And thank you for your great efforts to end the war and to bring this administration to account. Please tell your colleagues that this citizen wants Congress to exert the full weight of its constitutional powers to stop an abusive executive branch. How can it be that for many in Congress being polite is more important than getting out of a burning building? It's way past time to give up feigning any respect for the decider of disastrous decisions.  This president must not be given any leeway to increase troop levels or widen the scope of the war.

    Thank you.

  •  we have your back, sir (2+ / 0-)
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    3goldens, Molly Martinez
  •  Thank You Sen. Feingold! (3+ / 0-)
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    rlharry, 3goldens, Molly Martinez

    THIS is what the '06 vote was all about!
    We need to restore our county. Jobs, New Orleans, health care, Education and our standing in the world. We cannot go it alone in this age of global industrialism,trade and the worst result global warming.
    Pouring blood and money into a failed policy is illogical. For all those who keep saying we must stay or there will be chaos in Iraq I ask, Can you unbreak an egg? All the kings horses and all the kings men cannot put Iraq together again.
    The world as a whole must come together to solve these problems and many more that face us. We all belong to this planet Earth and must all take responsibility to save her.

    (-7.50 -6.31) "Whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad." --Euripides

    by arkdem on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:45:22 PM PST

  •  I agree (0+ / 0-)

    "Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed." General Buck Turgidson

    by muledriver on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:48:02 PM PST

  •  One of the greatest senators in our country (0+ / 0-)

    My sister is lucky to be respresented by you in Milwaukee.  Keep up the good work.

    If the Republicans promise to stop telling lies about us, maybe we'll stop telling the truth about them..

    by Romaniac on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:48:43 PM PST

  •  Thanks for your work on this and for the heads up (0+ / 0-)

    Reading through the resolution, it is a ratification of the status quo, an outcome I find unacceptable.  Cutting off the funding is the only way to end this.  Keep fighting -- you seem to be one of the few that gets it.

    I'll be watching the Presidential candidates to see how they handle this.

    Bush 41 to 43: "See, Son, your problem in Iraq is the same one I had with your mother: neither one of us pulled out in time."

    by mattinla on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:50:53 PM PST

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    WANT!!!  Senator Feingold, keep reminding The Senate of this.  And, thank you for being a genuine representative of WE THE PEOPLE.  Wish we could award you with PATRIOT OF THE 110TH!  Who knows...?

  •  Keep fighting, Senator Feingold! (4+ / 0-)
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    Thanks again, Senator.  At least I can count on one person in Congress to speak the truth and to take a stand.  I think this president and his cadre are more dangerous to this country than any terrorist.  Non-binding resolutions mean nothing to people who think of themselves as being above the law and beholden to no one.

    Congressional leaders need to understand that the time to fight back against Bush's power grabs is now.  The people elect representatives to Congress to actually represent us and our interests. Democrats who pretend to get tough without taking a real stand aren't fooling any of us.  That's why I'm so glad that you keep up the pressure on fellow Dems.  

    This is it.  It's "The Decider" vs. sane, intelligent Americans, military commanders who know what they're talking about, and the rest of the world.  We've spoken.  He will continue to ignore us.  The only thing left is to meet his stubborness with firm resolve.  

    Proud to have you as my WI Senator!


  •  Please Senator Feingold, (2+ / 0-)
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    keep going!  Get the troops out!  End this war!  Bush and Cheney are lunatics, liars, and murderers!  Why can't they be charged with endagering the country and violating the Constitution?  Why can't they be charged with treason?  This is just so unreal!  I can't believe people are allowing another Iraq to happen in Iran by not stopping this now!!  

  •  Well, thank you (0+ / 0-)

    I admit I've been harsh in some of my comments...but I've seen you on YouTube lately talking about how serious this is and saw the emotion and know you care..

  •  THANK YOU (2+ / 0-)
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    artebella, 3goldens

    Senator Feingold.  We, the people, are very hungry for change.  You are so right.  I support you and what you are doing for US.  You have it right.  We need to get out of Iraq and if that means Congress needs to stop funding the invasion to restrict Bush from his deadly ways, then that's what Congress must do.  Period.  

    Leave no trace upon the Earth but the footprints of your compassion and the echoes of your laughter.

    by TaterSalad on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 03:59:23 PM PST

  •  Yes! (1+ / 0-)
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    I'll add my voice to the choir of support.  

    This is no time to fool around with non-binding resolutions that do nothing but make the situation worse.

    There is a gulf dividing the Republicans who support the President's disastrous policies and the rest of the Congress, the American people and the rest of the world.  If the Republic Party can not support a meaningful resolution that expresses the will of the people . . . so be it.  But Democrats shouldn't be fooling around with silly, wishy-washy, non-binding resolutions.  Why waste the time?

  •  Oh, and as Kos points out (2+ / 0-)
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    3goldens, Azubia

    Their bill is NON-BINDING.

    Which means it's useless.

    Enough talk.

    We need action.

  •  Thank you Senator Feingold. (0+ / 0-)

    This news really is distressing.  I'd love to call my Senators, but as I am a DC native I simply have to rely on you you to tell your colleagues that at least one in this group of 500,000 people do not accept the President's underlying premise at all.

    This war was a train wreck waiting to happen to begin with and I just cannot even remotely conceive of why now that the trainwreck has gone into full motion, these people are doing everything in their power to avoid stopping it from getting worse.

    I hope the supporters understand that they are going to lose their jobs driving this train if they keep this up.  They are going to get themselves fired.  Of course, they were too foolish to see the train wreck four years ago, why in the world do I think they would see what is before them now?  Fools will remain fools no matter how much life tries to teach them.

  •  I called your Madison office (3+ / 0-)
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    and was so furious that I'm sure your aide thought I was calling to castigate you. In fact, I was calling out of anger and frustration to encourage you to go further in your demands. This resolution is a big SELL OUT and I hope you are able to convince your colleagues that this is NOT what we elected a Democratic Congress to do.

    Especially now that the Decider is apparently dead on track to invade Iran, it's time to stand firm and just say NO.

    Thank you, Senator Feingold.

  •  You Deserve Encouragement (2+ / 0-)
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    nehark, 3goldens

    You are right to take a stand.  I wish your fellow Senators had the courage you have always shown.

    Thanks, Russ.

  •  Good intentions are simply not (1+ / 0-)
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    good enough anymore. Concrete action must be taken.

    Thanks Senator Feingold, for seeing through to what needs to be done.

  •  Thank you Senator Feingold (4+ / 0-)
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    rlharry, 3goldens, Jbeaudill, Polacolor

    I wish I had a Senator I could be proud of... unfortunately Arizona has not had the guts to vote for someone who does stand up for the American people.

    In the last 6 years, many times and many of the votes I have made felt like the "Most Important" in my life.

    Everyday it seems that each revealing shocking revelation could not be topped but is.

    It is the first time I truly fear for our country and the world. I hear the drum beats of war again... I fear that this administration will cause a war which could be the destruction of what we know today.

    Why do I not feel the urgency to act from Congress?
    Why is it not urgent to prevent one more death in Iraq?
    Why can't our Iraqi Vets receive treatment for PTSD and prevent their suicides?
    Why is it Ok for America to right off a whole American City or region of our country?
    Why is it Democratic Congressmen and Senators think that being nice and "bipartisan" will actually work with the nasty Republicans and this President?

  •  Right you are, Senator! Thank you for your wisdom (1+ / 0-)
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    and for consistently demonstrating the strength of will it takes to act - wisely and boldly!

  •  Emboldening the Enemy... (1+ / 0-)
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    nehark what Senator Feingold and a majority of the American people are doing, according to President Bush and his amen corner.

    That's why "Embolden the Enemy" is now #1 on the Top 10 GOP Sound Bites List.

  •  Thank You Senator. (3+ / 0-)
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    nehark, 3goldens, Marlyn

    The Republicans have spent the last six years proving that they can't actually govern anything competently.  I hate to see the Democrats try to match that record by casting themselves as feckless hand-wringers not capable of doing anything really meaningful.

    A Democrat majority was elected to take real, meaningful, action, not just to adopt meaningless, advisory, resolutions.

    Bush's only "exit strategy" is to let somebody else figure it out in 2009.

    by Tod on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:23:28 PM PST

  •  I salute you Senator . . . (1+ / 0-)
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    You've been a leader on every major issue to face this nation since November 7th, 2000.  

    You are leading on this too.  While I am saddened that you are not making this statement from the platform of a presidential candidate, I understand your motivations for foregoing the race.

    You have repeatedly shown that you can lead the country from your position as Senotor from Wisconsin.

    I urge you to forge alliances with the new Democrats in the Senate such as Jim Webb and John Tester, but I am humble in the knowledge that you know how to deal with this situation better than I do.  

    Thank you.

    To all the ones who hated me the most, a toast. -Amanda Palmer

    by dbratl on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:23:45 PM PST

  •  I just read the Hardball crawl (3+ / 0-)

    on a statement by HRC: (not exact)

    I'm not prepared to support Senator Feingold [his resolution] but support a bipartisan statement of opposition, blah, blah, blah.

    She's worthless.

  •  You are correct Senator Feingold (3+ / 0-)
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    and I think it is despicable that more of your colleagues will not stand up with you.  This administration MUST BE STOPPED and they must not be allowed to make Iran their next target.  I called my representatives (Democrats) and expressed my anger over the current situation and my belief that Bush and company are setting this country up for an even bigger disaster in Iran.  It was not very comforting to be told by one young staffer that I needed to join an organization and get involved.  Maybe I'm naive in my belief that members of Congress are there to listen and act on behalf of their constituents.  Keep up the good fight!

    "As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression..." William O. Douglas

    by Patricia Bruner on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:25:28 PM PST

  •  Stop Emboldening the Terrorists! (2+ / 0-)
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    3goldens, Molly Martinez

    Dithering in the Senate cedes power to the Decider and emboldens the terrorists.

    I realize that the rules of the Senate are designed to maximize dithering, but this is time for REAL ACTION.

    While you're at it, it's time for a BINDING resolution demanding that Bush get consent from Congress before even thinking about exploding even one bomb inside Iran.

  •  KICK ASS RUSS! This Seattlite loves ya! rmm. (0+ / 0-)

    Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look; He thinks too much: such men are dangerous

    by seabos84 on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:34:55 PM PST

  •  Late to the game (1+ / 0-)
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    Not that you will see this Senator; but I do have a question. When this comes up for a vote, could you not from the well show the video of GWB making fun of trying to find WMD's in the oval office and then just ask you compatriots in the Senate, "Do we really want this man in charge of decisions concerning our brave men and women in uniform? This is not some frat party gone bad, blood and treasure are at stake as well as the credibility of the United States Senate!!"

    "If you're not laughing, you're not living"

    by Doggie269 on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:36:08 PM PST

  •  Thank you, Russ (2+ / 0-)
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    3goldens, TomP

    It's good to see a Dem on the Senate who isn't itching  to cave at the drop of a hat.

    We have the CORRECT and MORAL position, and it happens to be the POPULAR decision now, as well.  If we cannot stand strong with that kind of advantage, what the hell are we doing anyway?

    Keep it up.  Wish you would have decided to run for Prez.  You had me at voting against the PATRIOT Act.

  •  Bush needs another $100 billion for 2007 (1+ / 0-)
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    bee tzu

    It appears that Bush is going to be seeking a further $100 billion for the fiscal 2007 year and significantly more for the 2008 year that begins October 1st.

    I agree this resolution of Warner's is far less than what is needed. I thought the Democrats won the Senate in 2006 so why are they continuing to let Republicans like Warner call the shots? Until some of the senate Democrats actually grow some balls more Americans will needlessly die in Iraq and the President will take this country further and further into debt. But as long as his pals at Exxon continue to rake in record profits he doesn't give a shit.

    Here'a an idea why not let Exxon fund the war?

  •  Thank You, Senator Feingold (4+ / 0-)
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    Senator Feingold, thank you for bringing this to everyone's attention.

    I sent the following e-mail to both of my Senators, Majority Leader Reid, and Senator Levin:

    Senator [name], I urge you to not support the Warner-Levin Resolution regarding the Iraq Conflict in it's current state.

    There are at least two points that should not be approved. They are:

    (a)(22) The recommendations in this Act should
    not be interpreted as precipitating any immediate reduction in, or withdrawal of, the present level of forces.

    (b)(4) the Congress should not take any action that will endanger United States military forces in the field, including the elimination or reduction of funds for troops in the field, as such action with respect to funding would undermine their safety or harm their effectiveness in pursuing their assigned

    Please DO NOT give away your Congressional authority to withdrawal troops from Iraq in order to develop a watered down resolution that Republicans will sign on to as long as it does not criticize President Bush. He deserves to be criticized for his mismanagement of this conflict. Even more, our troops need our real support -- not false words or magnetic ribbons -- but real support in getting them out of a conflict in which we should have never engaged.

    Please do not support this resolution if that language remains. You will, once again, be handing over the authority of a co-equal branch of government to a President who has already shown how easily he will abuse that authority.


    Senator Feingold, I have respected every position you've taken, and I am always impressed when watching you in hearings. I wish you were running for President -- you had my vote. But, please keep up the great work in the Senate. I truly hope my Senators, as well as Majority Leader Reid, and Senator Levin will reconsider their support of the Warner-Levin Resolution.

  •  You are right Senator Feingold, (3+ / 0-)
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    Democrats should have the courage of their convictions and stop underestimating the people. A resolution such as yours can end the war in six months and I would wager wake the nation up, approvingly. Almost 70 % of the public wants an end to this, who is really in charge here? Is this still a democracy or a national security state?

  •  Thank you, Senator for your efforts. (3+ / 0-)
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    How many more ways can we send the message to members of the Senate and House who don't hold your views, and the views of the majority of Americans, that we need to get out of Iraq and get out now.  We've contacted our Senators and Representative numerous times and feel as if the message is not being heard. What's even more disheartening is the fact that now the MSM is picking up the call to confront Iran, noting that "Iranian secrets" are being discovered.  Please, Senator Feingold, take our messages to your colleagues.  Remind them it's time to do the people's business and not cave in to the Bush Administration any longer.  Thank you again.

  •  I am deeply disappointed that so many of your (5+ / 0-)
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    Democratic colleagues do not appear to be up for a fight with the administration and their Republican colleagues, because that is what the Warner-Levin resolution represents, an unspoken but unmistakable message to the public that when it comes to meaningfully opposing the administration's policy in Iraq, they simply will not do it, for whatever reasons.

    I honestly don't understand what's wrong with them. Either they do or don't support this war. If they support it then let them go on record with that support. If they oppose it then they are morally obliged to do everything that they can to end it. There simply is no middle ground at this point, and any senator who pretends otherwise is just fooling themselves (but not the public) and, frankly, does not have the moral right to hold their seat.

    He who troubles his own house shall inherit the wind. The foolish shall be servant to the wise of heart. -- Proverbs 11:29

    by kovie on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:48:32 PM PST

  •  Senator Feingold: Thank you for your (5+ / 0-)


    I have NO idea what Bush thinks could be accomplished with 21,600 troops. When an entire populace is against you, what would this number of troops do? Either this number of troops reflects an unstated intention to do a very specific mission (and we don't know what that mission is) or the it is a "foot in the door" strategy.

    I am very, very worried that they intend to attack Iran. I strongly encourage you and your Senate Colleagues to demand real proof from every organization involved in the construction of the "Iran is attacking us in Iraq" argument. This administration intentionally circulates disinformation daily and we have absolutely no reason to trust them.

    If you think the United States is despised now, just imagine the collapse of all credibility and the last vestiges of good will if Bush/Cheney attack Iran on some pretext that EVERYONE else in the world knows was cooked up fraudulently.

    Many of us said invading Iraq would result in disaster. I'm waiting for the apology.

    by lecsmith on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 04:54:39 PM PST

    •  How about -- (1+ / 0-)
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      I have NO idea what Bush thinks could be accomplished with 21,600 troops.

      Everyone focuses on the "augmentation" and not on the fact that we shouldn't be in Iraq at all. And when the surge plan is struck down, the war will still be going as before, but everyone will be placated. I think that's the idea.

      •  I think it's worse than what you say, (0+ / 0-)

        although I agree with your comment. After I posted the comment, I read that Bush had lied about the actual numbers he intends to send; it's more like 36 to 48 K. So now I am very convinced that the intention is to make it a wider war from which we cannot extricate ourselves.

        Buy why? Are they crazy enough to think they could "win"? I think Bush and Cheney are self-righteous, arrogant, sociopaths and they are absolutely itching to use a small nuke.

        Many of us said invading Iraq would result in disaster. I'm waiting for the apology.

        by lecsmith on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 05:22:57 AM PST

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  •  Senator Feingold (1+ / 0-)
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    I'm one of your Wisconsin constituents and I support fully what you are doing.  I wish that Herb Kohl would be more vocal and support your efforts.  If he doesn't care to lead the way, that's fine BUT he should be out there fighting visibly to get support to help you out.  I'm very disappointed that Sen. Reid and others are not behind you 100%.  I am glad that you have told other senators about our hunger for REAL representation.  We appreciate so much your clarity of purpose and the soundness of your convictions.  Would that more senators had your same approach to things.  Some of those intending to run for President need to be aware that they do not have our trust or confidence when they repeatedly fail to do what they surely must know is the right thing to do.  Don't give up, Senator!  We're here for you and if there is any way that we can help, just let us know.

  •  Question on Redeployment Act (2+ / 0-)
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    If you read down this far, I have a question on the Iraq Redeployment Act of 2007, specifically on Section 2b:

     (b) EXCEPTIONS.—The prohibition under subsection (a) shall not apply to the use of funds—
       (1) to conduct targeted counterterrorism operations in Iraq;
       (2) to provide security for United States infrastructure and civilian personnel;
       (3) to allow a limited number of members of the Armed Forces to conduct specific training for Iraqi security services;
       (4) to protect members of the Armed Forces who are performing the functions described in paragraphs (1) through (3); or
       (5) to provide for the carrying out by any department or agency of the United States Government of political, economic or general reconstruction activities in Iraq.

    First off, I understand why we need exceptions like this, and under a typical President they wouldn't concern me.  However, this President seems to be especially prone to broadly interpreting the law in favor of additional Executive power.

    So, my main concern, my question, is this, if this bill becomes law, what is there to stop President Bush from claiming something like:

    we need:
    30,000 troops in Iraq for counterterrorism,
    30,000 to protect civilian contractors,
    30,000 to continue training the Iraqi security forces,
    40,000 to protect those troops listed above, and another
    20,000 to help out with government reconstruction projects.

    This would account for 150,000 troops in Iraq under the exceptions given to this measure, and end up redeploying nobody out of Iraq.  Is there any way to restrict the "Decider's" ability to make such an interpretation of these provisions?

  •  I'm curious. How does it feel to be one of the (2+ / 0-)
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    few people in Washington politics to have a honest-to-goodness working brain?  Seriously.

    Thanks for fighting the good fight while brainless Washington zombies chew over their non-binding meals.

    Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, fanatical, criminal. - Supertramp, "The Logical Song"

    by mentaldebris on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:05:37 PM PST

  •  Senator Feingold... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...thank you so much for being in the Senate and doing what you are doing. Over the last six years, I do not know what I would have done without your courageous stands on these issues.

    I have to say I respect your decision to not run for President despite being my favorite candidate (behind possibly Al Gore). You are one of the only senators to consistently and unapologetically do What Is Right and damn the torpedoes. May you stay there for a long time, forcing your colleagues to face the tough issues. Your attempts to defund the war only further reinforce my already stratospheric opinion of you.

    Keep up the good fight, Senator. I would follow you anywhere, and so would many of the people on this site.

  •  Ha... (3+ / 0-)
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    It’s all downhill from there in (b)2.  The resolution goes on to support "continuing[ing] vigorous operations in Anbar province, specifically for the purpose of combating an insurgency."  Apparently, some people think that our troops should be involved in putting down the Sunni insurgency in western Iraq.

    Is that snark from Senator Feingold? I think so... :)

  •  Warner/Levin is bunk (3+ / 0-)
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    The report now is that with support troops, the number of troops Bush is sending will be as many as 48,000. Stronger actions from Dems are necessary.

    Diebold! Democracy's premiere supplier of coffin nails since 2002

    by moon in the house of moe on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:13:05 PM PST

  •  This business will get out of control... (3+ / 0-)
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    It will get out of control and we will be lucky to live through it.

    Don't fuck with my ch'i.

    by Han Solo on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:16:34 PM PST

  •  A couple questions: (0+ / 0-)

    Is it necessarily an either/or thing?  If not, why wouldn't passing the nonbinding resolution simply be a first step toward passing a binding resolution?

    Second, how has the reaction been to passing a binding resolution?  While I think that would be best, it is imperative that the US Congress put it on the record that it thinks this is a bad idea.  Thus, if the only thing we can get is non-binding, then that's what we should take, and then keep pushing.  

    Shorter Republicans: You guys only won because we were corrupt and bad at governing.

    by bosdcla14 on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:16:45 PM PST

  •  Thank you Sen Feingold (1+ / 0-)
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    I've been calling my Senators (Coleman&Klobuchar) a lot over this issue, and again today. I agree with you on this resolution. Let's work it until it's right. You let us know if you need us to do anything and we'll be there for you. You have often times been the lone correct voice against this admin and we appreciate your courage.

  •  just want to add my little voice (4+ / 0-)
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    thank you Senator for doing all you can to end this evil war.

    We have to stop asking ordinary Americans to pay with their lives for the mistakes, cowardice and ignorance of "elite" Americans.

    Strategery, slapping right wing crap against a wall of truth.

    by fromer on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:24:28 PM PST

  •  Thank you for reminding me why I donated... (3+ / 0-)
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    to your various Senate campaigns.  While I respect your decision, part of me still wishes that you were running for the WH.  I'd love to see you as Al Gore's running mate.

    It was unfortunate that your Senate colleagues didn't pick up your w/drawal resolution in 2005.  It's equally unfortunated that they didn't pick up your censure resolution.  I wish like hell they'd pick up this resolution.

    Keep up the good work.

    Some men see things as they are and ask why. I see things that never were and ask why not?

    by RFK Lives on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:26:58 PM PST

  •  the majority of Americans (4+ / 0-)
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    believe Congress hasn't been pushing back enough. Sen. Feingold - I'm disappointed that you're not running in '08, but I am eternally grateful that you are willing to serve us as America's Senator.

  •  Keep at them Senator Feingold. (1+ / 0-)
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    Can we clone you to replace our junior senator from CT ?

    Only a fool fights in a burning house

    by CTMET on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:28:04 PM PST

  •  Enough Talk Already! (4+ / 0-)
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          Talking is not going to get the attention of this White House. With two years to go and not facing election again, with a 'Democrat' Congress to take the blame, it comes down to this. Geroge W. Bush no longer cares about anything except his legacy. Not the law. Not the Congress or the Courts. Not the will of the people.
          Bush is psychologically incapable of acknowledging his mistakes, let alone doing anything about them. He's always walked away from them in the past. At this point, he has nothing left to lose by gambling he can still 'win' and nothing to gain by compromising or backing down. Bush is a man whose honest reaction to criticism is "Who cares what you think?" Talk is not going to do it.
          Cheney, if anything, is even worse. His recent interviews show a man who, if not delusional, is willfully blind. Between the two of them and their apparently sincere belief that the President is the supreme authority, above the law, there is almost no likelihood that Bush will see reason. Reason has never been his strong suit.
          The only thing that is going to get the attention of a White House locked in a death spiral of bad decsions based on worse advice is the three I's: Investigation, Indictment, Impeachment. We are rapidly running out of time to use the first two effectively; push them hard, push them now, and have the third ready to go if that's what it's going to take.
            Time is short; many lives are on the line and the future of this country too.
           While you're at it, take a page from the Bush doctrine of pre-emptive warfare and sponsor a resolution declaring the President has no authority to initiate hostilities with Iran. Because odds are, Bush will attack Iran long before he'll listen to any advice about Iraq.

    "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

    by xaxnar on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:39:25 PM PST

    •  time is short (0+ / 0-)

      it may already be toooooo late but you are right, talking about it isn't going to go anywhere. these people need to hop on this to get our country off our train wreck course. so many live spent and so much money spent with nothing to show for it. TIME for action.

  •  Thank you for having the courage... (1+ / 0-)
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    To stand up to these folks.

    The war must be ended so that the business of undoing the breakage to our country and laws caused by the Bush administration can be started...

    Many crimes have been committed by Bush et al and there needs to be a real and distinct legal response to their transgressions.

    This can not all just fade away in a haze of pardons and old boy protectionism, people need to go to jail over what has been done.

  •  Senator Feingold... (2+ / 0-)
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    I wrote you in early 2005 urging you to run for President, and you wrote me back a hand-signed reply.

    I still have it.

    Keep doing what you're doing, Senator Feingold.

    Senator Feingold: American Hero.

    by Basil on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 05:46:44 PM PST

  •  soggy cornflakes was my description (1+ / 0-)
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    when the compromise was announced this morning

    This toothless, useless non-binding resolution will be GLEEFULLY ignored by Bush

    I 100% agree that a binding law is required but the congress on notice and Bush

    It's been FOUR years, if this war can't be ended now then when?  Bush should be shamed relentlessly for letting the war drag on this long.  

    I'll call Mr. Levin in the morning, he's my Senator

  •  Go Russ ... Proud to call you my Senator (1+ / 0-)
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    Now is not the time for half-measures.  Push as hard as you have to Senator Feingold.  Push as hard as you have to.

    "A Republic, if you can keep it". Benjamin Franklin, 1787, describing America's new government. "We'll see about that", George W. Bush, Jan 20, 2001.

    by Quicklund on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 06:05:32 PM PST

  •  Don't ever think we don't back you (1+ / 0-)
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    110%, Senator Feingold.  Will send emails this evening.  Keep up the good fight.  

  •  The 290th comment doesn't get read. (3+ / 0-)
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    But I'm going to post it anyway.  THANK YOU, Senator Feingold.  You are the best at what you do.  AND, thank you for not allowing ambition to steal you away to pursue tasks for which you aren't as ideally suited.  

    Maf54 (8:10:40 PM): take it out Xxxxxxxxx (8:10:54 PM): mom is yelling

    by evercompromised on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 06:12:18 PM PST

  •  I have nothing new to add (1+ / 0-)
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    but I just want to say tht what I want is an end to this illegal adventure today, or as close to today as is possible to safely extract the troops.  Then I want investigations into the whole sordid affair.

    "I said, 'wait a minute, Chester, you know I'm a peaceful man.'" Robbie Robertson -8.13, -4.56

    by NearlyNormal on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 06:29:11 PM PST

  •  You sir ... are a leader. (2+ / 0-)
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    Thank you for following your convictions and not always taking the easy way.

  •  Agree 100% (1+ / 0-)
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    with everything you have said here.  Now is the time to take a stand.  The Warner-Levin resolution is the wrong way to go.  Forget about filibusters, do what's right, and make those who oppose do it openly, and let them face the consequences.  Absolutely no salutes to the C-in-C, I mean, really.  No vows to protect funding.  It's not often that I agree with every word of a diary, or every point in a leader's position, but I do on this one.  I am fully behind you and will let my Senators know it.

    Please continue with your fight, and also please work on revoking/revising authority for this war.

    Lastly, I do wish you guys could get together a bit more on these resolutions, instead of every other Senator putting forth his/her own resolution.

    "War against a foreign country only happens when the moneyed classes think they are going to profit from it." -- George Orwell

    by joanneleon on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 06:39:53 PM PST

  •  Any part of this resolution that limits future (3+ / 0-)
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    congressional actions should be deleted immediately without further discussion. Abdicating congressional responsibilities is what got us in this mess in the first place!

    "And we are here as on a darkling plain Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight, Where ignorant armies clash by night." Matthew Arnold

    by Cantinflas on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 06:41:49 PM PST

  •  Neither does the 291th comment (2+ / 0-)
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    but I'd thought I'd show my support.  I hope we get to 300 at least.  Thanks Senator Feingold for saying what needs to said and doing what needs to be done.  The fact of the matter is this President will just keep on throwing resources and lives into this war, prolonging it until he percieves he has "won" or until the next President is forced to pick up the mess.    

  •  Unplug the Corporate War Machine (3+ / 0-)
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    Senator, you are obviously crystal clear that the American people are SERIOUS about getting out of Iraq and ending this insane occupation.

    I am grateful that you are sticking to the point: Legislation to end the war in Iraq.  Simple.  Crucial.

    Soon, I want to talk to you about impeachment(s).
    I'm serious about that, too.

  •  I hate how (3+ / 0-)
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    I always end up coming late to a Senator Feingold  diary a way it's just as well; I don't have anything unique to add. All I know to say is thank you from the bottom of my heart.

    I will be contacting my senators and urging them to support your measure, as I have done before.

    (I also want to see Dems in the House get behind H.R.508 and will be writing to say so.)

    What can I and other members of the public do, besides contacting Congress as mentioned above, to put pressure on them to follow your lead?

    It's not enough to be in the majority, you have to stand for something. - Russ Feingold

    by zett on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 06:51:31 PM PST

  •  this honorable senator is the ONLY one it appears (1+ / 0-)
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    not to have their head in their own very personal, moist, warm, smelly cavity. It seems that the rest of the senate and house need to remember that THEY represent us and use their brains and head for something other than a hat rack.

    •  Sen. Dodd is also opposed to this resolution, BUT (0+ / 0-)

      Kennedy is for it.  So who knows what's up.  I'd like to know if there are loop holes to get around the problematic provisions that Sen. Feingold has laid out.  

      •  Ack! Why, why, why? (0+ / 0-)

        I've got to believe there's something going on that I don't know about.  There's no way Kennedy, who's never going to lose his Senate seat, is 80 years old and has nothing to lose, is going to kowtow to these people. He's furious at the Repubs (did you see him on minimum wage the other day?) and he hasn't been shy about calling them on their shit.

        So this must be some kind of maneuver I don't understand.

        •  Webb is "inclined" to support it, too. (0+ / 0-)

          I agree that "maneuver" has to do with this.  I think the first provision 22 that Feingold refers to can be wiggled out of.  Because it says "immediate reduction", which means you can reduce in a couple of months which would not mean immediate.  However, I have an issue with the Anbar provision and the funding provision.  I also have a problem with talking to "select countries" in the M.E. which doesn't means Iran or Syria.

  •  Thanks, Sen. Feingold (2+ / 0-)
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    Nice to see someone with integrity in the Senate.

  •  Senator this diary demonstrates why the netroots. (6+ / 0-)

    ..hold you in such esteem. That you understand what is at stake in America today as I posted here about AG 'Abu Ghraib' Gonzales is clear. You are unafraid to speak truth to your colleagues and the man who occupies the White House. I ask you now to speak the truth to others.

    Please do the following:

    Convey to your fellow Senators that we in the netroots are watching their actions on this critical issue. Should they falter in or fail to show sufficient resolve in this matter we will not shy away from holding Democrats accountable. It's time for the Democratic leadership in the Senate to stop playing games!

    We in the netroots will target any Senator who gives cover to The Madman-in-the-White-House and his criminal cabal in their attempts to widen the war in the Middle East.

    You may feel this a threat, and indeed that is what this is, is uncalled for, but I respectfully submit Senator that a threat is the only thing many of your peers understand. A threat to their ivory tower existence within which they have forgotten, if they ever even knew, that they are Senators elected to do our bidding.

    A vast majority of Americans want us out of Iraq Senator.

    Tell your fellows on the Hill that they will be looking for new jobs if they ignore those millions of Americans because you may be sure we in the netroots will make it our reason for being to inform our fellow citizens who to blame if Bush is not stopped.

    Stopped dead Senator.

    That said I want to thank you for being the kind of Senator and American all can respect for your principled stand against tyranny here at home and terrorism abroad.

    You have shown that these are not incompatible.

    Indeed you have shown both are required of any one who would lead our nation from the darkness Mr. Bush and his hubris and ignorance have cast us into.

    'I'm writing as Nestor since scoop in it's awesome wisdom won't let me use my real screen name: A.Citizen'

    by Nestor Makhnow on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 06:58:37 PM PST

  •  Please continue fighting to get your legislation (4+ / 0-)
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    And thank you for being such a constant and clear voice of sanity in the Senate. It is infuriating that the increasingly loud calls for dramatic change in the past year have apparently been leading up to nothing more than this resolution that does little but validate the president's policy, and any Democrat who votes for it should be ashamed. Please continue doing all you can to make them see reason. I have such faith in you, Senator.

  •  It's hard to argue with Feingold's logic. (0+ / 0-)

    I think the Resolution divides the GOP from Bush and makes him look solitary and alone.  That is of some political value, initially.  However, that bipartisan consensus will soon collapse when we start talking about real numbers, troop caps and spending reductions.  

    Even though I don't like the resolution, I do think it helps Reid control the Senate.  Bush only has leverage for another 3 to 4 months regarding the use of the military.  When we hit the late spring and summer and it comes time to shape budgets, Congress will have the authority to limit the scope of this war and effectively end the war.

  •  Thankyou Sen Feingold (1+ / 0-)
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    All I want from Congress is...IMPEACHMENT!

    by Temmoku on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 07:18:22 PM PST

  •  Here we go again... (3+ / 0-)
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    Looks like the Dems are going to end up doing NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE, once again.  Russ, what do we need to do to let them know that we think the Warner/Levin resolution is NOT ACCEPTABLE?

  •  We need to make quiet resolutions (0+ / 0-)

    to send money directly to specific candidates and to Dean's organization.  No money to the DCC and certainly no money to congressmen who vote for trash like this.

    NOTE TO KOS:  I will not vote DLC or Blue Dog Democrat for any reason.  You can forget herding me into the Democratic fold if the Democratic machine votes Scoop Jackson.

  •  The perfect is the enemy of the good... (0+ / 0-)

    Which is why, as I state in my diary today, I respectfully dissent.

    I believe that the Levin/Warner amendment is a good place for us to start.

    It's not the perfect response to Bush on the war (that would be impeachment), but it starts building a consensus that stretches across the aisle.

    When the GOP members of that consensus hear George "The Decider" Bush tell Congress to take it's nonbinding resolution and stick it where the sun doesn't shine, they'll then have the political cover necessary to join in a filibuster-proof bill with real teeth.

    That's how I see it, but, as I concede in my diary, perhaps I'm just totally full of sh*t or stupid.

    When I say I'm happier than a hog in slop, no one thinks I'm being crude. - William Jefferson Clinton

    by Guaunyu on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 07:47:12 PM PST

    •  Nah. (0+ / 0-)

      That may be true in ordinary politics, but not in dealing with an out-of-control bratty six-year-old on who knows what medication who happens to have the most powerful military in the world at his beck and call. And that's a kind characterization.  I'm assuming he's not completely evil nor completely insane.

      That whole perfect-vs-good thing looks a lot different when the situation's this extreme.

      Besides, it's time we strove for something great.  The mediocre is the enemy of the great.

  •  More money heading your way... (2+ / 0-)
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    copymark, TomP

    More $$$ is going to the Progressive Patriots Fund.  

    And out of Iraq NOW!

    Why settle for the truth when you can have Truthiness???

    by wintersnowman on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 07:48:22 PM PST

  •  As Molly Ivins said, (2+ / 0-)
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    We need to bang pots and pans in the street and chant "Stop it now!" until our troops are brought home.

    I intend to do no less.

    Thank you for realizing that stopping the "surge" is not enough--the whole occupation of Iraq is morally wrong and strategically counterproductive, and it needs to end.

  •  "Endanger our troops" = Propaganda ploy (3+ / 0-)
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    gogol, Back in the Cave, TomP

    Page 8, item 4 of "Sense of the Congress" in Warner-Levin resolution (emphasis mine):

    "4.  The Congress shall not take any action that will endanger US military forces in the field including the elimination or reduction of funds for troops in the field, as such action with respect to funding would undermine or harm their effectiveness in pursuing their assigned missions."

    This is designed for right-wing talk radio! -- for listeners to parrot straight back to both parties in Congress in thousands of letters and e-mails and phone calls in response to Sen. Feingold's resolution.

    Nobody in their right mind would cut off funds for troops in the field in combat. Because this language is absurd, its presence in the Resolution must be for the purpose of political intimidation of anyone who would be tempted to use Congress’ power of the purse to limit the president’s military actions in Iraq. Item 4 is nothing more than a propaganda ploy because it implies a lie. It's disingenuous. The truth is not explained that fund-cutting would happen not to troops in the field but after troops had been withdrawn from the field by a date certain, say 9 or 12 months -- whatever the plan Sen. Feingold has in mind in his own  resolution. The truth is that it would be the president's responsibility -- not Congress' -- to keep the troops safe by withdrawing them out of harm's way if a deadline is given by Congress beyond which no further funds will be available. The Warner-Levin language allows the public to be misinformed, buffaloed into thinking that Iraq fund-cutting will fall upon troops in midst of combat "in the field" so they will reach for an ammo belt and it won't be there. That's absurd!

    Item 4 language about "endangering our troops" is a ploy making future Iraq fund-cutting (a power given Congress in Constitution) politically radioactive. Surprised Sen. Feingold didn’t mention this fund-cutting clause in his diary as this foolery aims directly at his resolution.

    I agree with Sen. Feingold’s points in his diary and would add these:

    1. To "send a message" to the prez we can use Western Union;
    1. What good is a consensus resolution if it has the effect of tying the hands of Congress (if not in reality, certainly politically which is the same thing) from using the power of the purse in the future to limit the president's use of military force in Iraq?
    1. The pattern of the White House strategy is coming clear, passively supported by many inattantive Dems:  to do a gradual "Overton Window" shift on stages of war, from "withdrawal" (Nov 7) to "no surge" (now) and "no cutting of Iraq war funds" (effectively promised in this resolution, giving away part of Congress’ store of powers). The White House is making fabulous progress.


    Take away his license to drive the Iraq war wagon -- Sunset the AUMF!

  •  Keep On Swinging (2+ / 0-)
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    Keep up the good work Sen. Feingold.  

  •  Russ, stand strong. (1+ / 0-)
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    You're right and like so many others, I want Congress to STOP this president, not to enable him and his immoral and illegal war in Iraq.  I support you and I hope other Senators will understand and take the strong stand with you.  

  •  Senator, you are amazing! (1+ / 0-)
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    You saw through this administration's lies from the very beginning.  With all my heart, I wish you would run for President, or consider the office of Vice President.  Our country needs you.  I am so proud that you are my Senator!

    All the best to you and yours!

    "If I could have one wish, I would have people accept the importance of our common humanity." --Pres. Bill Clinton, The Today Show, 09/21/06

    by desordre remplir on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 08:13:32 PM PST

  •  Keep fighting the good fight, Senator Feingold, (1+ / 0-)
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    and thank you for great congressional leadership; however, I'm still just a wee bit peeved that you aren't running for the nomination....

    I've often said here that one doesn't have to run for president to be a great statesman, but that doesn't mean that a great statesman like you shouldn't run for president.

    I respect your decision not to run, but still....

    "We are the people who run this country; WE are the Deciders." ~ Molly Ivins, 1944-2007

    by 99 Percent Pure on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 08:20:38 PM PST

  •  Dems need to strap on their port-a-spines. (1+ / 0-)
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    Thank you for having courage and integrity, otherwise in short supply on the part of your colleagues.  Help wake up the Democrats from this looooooong, national nightmare! Senator, you're the greatest.

  •  Thank God somebody gets it! (3+ / 0-)
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    But we shouldn’t make the compromises made in this resolution just to beat a filibuster.  Instead of trying to pass something that everyone can get behind, we should be taking a strong stand.  If others want to block it, go right ahead.  We have the support of a majority of Americans behind us.  We should recognize that and act on it.

    Spread the word that we're looking for backbone!  Enough of the spineless politics that we've been force fed for so long!  I don't think voters can scream any louder than they did in November:  We hate wishy-washy-pat-each-other-on-the-back-and-do-nothing politicians!

    I'm sick of banging my head against the wall -- give us some relief PLEASE!

    Investigate! Impeach! Indict! Incarcerate!

    by Cato come back on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 08:43:31 PM PST

  •  You are ABSOLUTELY on target!! (1+ / 0-)
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    Thank you!
    I agree absolutely, Sen.

    I suggest you put up a poll in another diary asking what everyone would rather support:

    A: A non-binding resolution that does not fully condemn the war and does not call for an immediate withdrawal of troops.

    B: A non-binding resolution that fully condemns the war and calls for an immediate withdrawal of all troops.

    C: staying as is until things improve.

    D: (your) binding resolution calling for an immediate withdrawal of our troops from a civil war, and the means and method to do it.

    just an idea.

    thanks again for speaking so often as the first, and sometimes lone voice in Congress with the words so, so many of your fellow citizens want to hear all of our representatives saying.

    It actually IS time for a change!

    by netguyct on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 09:04:48 PM PST

  •  Thank you, Senator, for representing the PEOPLE. (1+ / 0-)
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    I am thinking of sending a e-mail or letter to Reid and Levin about what an utter waste these non-binding resolutions are.

    Why do we get such equivocating toothless resolutions?  we have to "joinhands"swallow all the pro-war bluster and bow and curtsey to the Decider?

    so this stuff can go on and on and on and on...

    Harry Reid! Yes you!  You go to boxing matches,enjoy fisticuffs,enjoy one man knocking another man out blows to the face,spatter...don't you?

    Then why the hell are you so deferential and polite and civil and crawly on your knees before the Decider?

    He isn't in the ring being a sport.

    he approved the thugs hanging Saddam (gave the order to release him ASAP from US military custody), and turns his head away from the thousands of Iraqis murdered every month.

    You know it is true. Why do you act as Bush's enabler, become just another hangman of ordinary Iraqis, a terrorizer of the Iraqi nation!!!!!!

    Damn you,damn you damn you.

    Pick up your stinking resolution and tell the rest of the jellyfish to vote teeth in it or abandon all hope. This escalation is not as advertised. it is for the jumpoff into Iran, compounding the folly of Iraq with an even bigger one for the same ends.

    This yobbo, shrub, miscreant is just itching to nuke Iran for his fantasy of setting back their nuke program for ten? years and killing thousands if not millions and you want to be NICE??? with Warner?

    The hell with you and your Senator's millionaires country club.

    You allow this war to drag on for two,four six more years you will have not a thousand terrorists in Iraq but millions wordwide..  You will show how inept you are and teach everyone force, be it weapons or suicide bombers is the only thing that America respects. By your inaction and collapse in the face of GWB's arrogance and stupidity.

    Stinking pathetic  ignorant miserable joke of a "non" binding resolution.

    This is the moment freedom begins, the moment you realize someone else has been writing your story...

    by Pete Rock on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 09:08:55 PM PST

  •  Russ Feingold Is My Hero (1+ / 0-)
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    Just in general.  I don't have anything else to say.  If every democrat had Sen. Feingold's integrity and strength of character, Dems would never lose another election. (:

  •  Opposing even this non-binding resolution (0+ / 0-)

    does not mean Sen. Feingold's legislation has any better chance of passing. In fact, not passing this watered down non-binding resolution means that nothing will be passed. The Republicans will have 'won' this round and the Senate and the Congress will have appeared to the world that they either support the surge or are not strong enough to stop it or even to symbolically oppose it. This non-binding resolution is a small skirmish in a bigger battle in a larger war.  Dems need to win even these skirmishes.  This resolution helps create a nascent consensus that includes Republicans.  In fact, I would argue that this non-binding resolution is important to show Republicans that they, Republicans, can oppose Bush/Cheney, although symbolically, and survive politically. This is important because Dems will need to have Repubs on their side for any meaningful legislation or an impeachment trial, if it comes to that, in the future.  

  •  All senators must now choose sides (1+ / 0-)
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    Each senator must decide if he or she sides with Bush  or with the American people.

    Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.

    by gravitylove on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 09:39:30 PM PST

  •  I was all in favor of the resolution (2+ / 0-)
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    until I read it.  What crap!  Thanks Senator.

  •  don't back down, senator feingold (3+ / 0-)
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    the very republic is at stake here. we cannot survive much more of this, and we cannot end this sordid chapter in american politics without your fellow senators starting to do the right thing for a change.

    surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat

    by wu ming on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 10:01:16 PM PST

  •  Thank you, Senator Feingold, (2+ / 0-)
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    and keep working. We must stop Bush. Must.

    "That story is not worth the paper it's rotten on."--Dorothy Parker

    by martyc35 on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 10:14:38 PM PST

  •  WAY TO GO SENATOR! (1+ / 0-)
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    You are the brightest light in the entire American government.  

    Keep doing the right thing, but please keep doing it even LOUDER.

  •  Thank you so very much (1+ / 0-)
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    I don't often pile on in these huge comment responses, but in this case -- your update shows it matters.

    I care deeply about this. All a "surge" is going to do is result in more American young men and women coming home in boxes.

    Well, and keep Iraq inflamed.

    We as a country would want foreign troops out of our country as soon as possible. That's where the Iraqis are at, also.

    This "surge" can't be anything more than an attempt to pass the buck to a future president. It is ridiculous at best, criminal at worst.

    Be good to each other. It matters.[me] / John McCain

    by AllisonInSeattle on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 10:45:03 PM PST

  •  Precisely - Filibuster nothing to be scared of (3+ / 0-)
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    rlharry, bee tzu, TomP

    Simply let the vote for cloture be a proxy vote on the resolution.  Debate the thing, make damn sure everybody knows that vote against cloture equals a "no" vote on the resolution, and get everybody on record that way.  

    Pound the war supporters in the media, and then come back at a time of your choosing to do it all over again.

    Thanks for speaking out so forcefully.  Now is not a time to mince words.

  •  senator feingold (1+ / 0-)
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    i know you decided not to run for president because you felt that you could dp more good in the senate, but if your senate collegues refuse to join you in substantively opposing bush and this war, i would strongly urge you to reconsider that decision, and take a crack at the executive branch.

    you've got a volunteer waiting in california if you do run. just sayn'.

    surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat

    by wu ming on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 10:51:17 PM PST

  •  You make me want to cry. (1+ / 0-)
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    And that's pathetic, because with a virtual wave of public support for getting out of Iraq, the Dems running the show have decided to hem and haw, and hedge.

    You're integrity, and your political courage: well, I'm very touched.  The references to Anbar province: it's madness, it's admitting we're going to carry out Iran's goal of cleansing the Sunni.  Which makes clear that we are so out of our depth in the ME that we're funding Iranian interests.  

    It's revolting.  I don't like my tax dollars aiding Iran.  

    Serious question: how do we best get through to Congress on this: is it phone calls, e-mail, snail mail?  Combo of all of above?  

    How can we be the people?

    A success that hasn't occured yet.

    by 2lucky on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 10:55:36 PM PST

  •  iran iran iran iran iran iran iran.... (3+ / 0-)
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    will the administration act to pre-empt and moot this whole discussion?  there are 535 of you between an exponentially greater disaster and the return to a (literally) sane foriegn policy.  what is hagling over our iraq folly to preventing what's (at very least) in contemplation.

    for god's sake get ahead of this curve if your not already!  are we waiting for condy or the a.g. to opine as to their constitutional authority to do it on their own?  god forbid!  they'll do it and then say they can and no one can stop us.  and it will be too late.

    whatever the libby trial is about, there can now be no question that this administration will gin up any excuse, tell any lie, to go to war if they want to.

    there is no other issue.

    we'll stand him up against a wall and pop goes the weasel /rufus t. firefly

    by 2nd balcony on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 11:01:05 PM PST

  •  Senator, In my opinion you are moving in the... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...correct direction. It is too bad that it is necessary to convince the blockheads over at 1600 P. Av just exactly where the war power resides by law, they should have learnd that in high school civics class.

    The young man who has not wept is a savage, and the old man who will not laugh is a fool. George Santayana

    by Bobjack23 on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 11:04:47 PM PST

  •  The Right-Wing has been bear baiting us, (1+ / 0-)
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    urging us toward something like the Feingold proposal. You've read and heard the pundits who routinely regurgitate Rove's talking points and they're all saying that a non-binding resolution is meaningless. They double-dog-dare us to act on our convictions and try to use the power of the purse. Hmmmm...

    Why is that? Are they calling our bluff?

    And if the compromise is fundamentally a betrayal that will end up hurting the effort to re-deploy, why in gawd's name is Kennedy supporting the resolution? I gotta tell ya, I'm confused.

    In 1492 Native Americans discovered Columbus lost at sea.

    by Bugsby on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 11:48:44 PM PST

    •  good point (1+ / 0-)
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      i'm not sure how to adequately frame the debate.. non-binding does look meaningless, but binding is framed as pulling the plug on troops already there.. anyone have any suggestions as to how to frame this as the oversight the american people so clearly demanded from their leaders in november?

  •  Senator Feingold... (1+ / 0-)
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    I admire your integrity and political courage. Your sir, are one of the greatest patriots our country has ever seen.

    No, i'm not just saying that because i'm from WI., so stop thinking i'm sucking up Kossaks!

  •  Rolling strikes, sit downs, or worse . . . (2+ / 0-)
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    Dear Senator Feingold,

    Thank God at least one of you has the spine to try and stop this madness.  If Iran is attacked, mark my words America will splinter.  If you think some of us "peaceful progressives" will sit around and watch this country further devolve into a bloodletting machine cloked in patriotic soundbites, then you better convince your colleagues that they have another thing coming.

    There are plenty of ways to start throwing the grassroots monkey wrench into the system.  There isn't much left of the America I believe in anyway so somebody better catch a clue before all domestic hell breaks loose.  Once hope for an accountable system by working through the system fades, it will be trouble of a kind and to a degree this country hasn't seen for 40 years. I for one am not opposed to trying other means before I let this country insanely reduce the world to a state of perpetual war.

    Thank you for your tireless efforts on our behalf.

    "The fate of the world is in the hands of a bunch of guys I wouldn't trust with a potato gun!"--Armageddon

    by rrheard on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 02:25:19 AM PST

  •  Thank you Senator Feingold (1+ / 0-)
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    You are one of my heroes. Though I of course respect your decision not to run for President, one can hope that you will change your mind.

  •  Thank you for (1+ / 0-)
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    providing a link to the actual resolution.

    It's AWFUL.  It provides for nothing but the status quo.  This is absolutely not what we voted for when we replaced members in Congress with Democrats.  It was all about a change in Iraq policy.  All day I've heard news reports that this was a resolution that, though non-binding, presented sharp disapproval of the administration's handling of the war.  I was shocked when I saw the emptiness of any real content.  

    I travelled 3,000 miles to participate in the rally in DC on Saturday. In preparation for Monday's lobbying, I spent all day Sunday attending sessions focusing on Iraq and impeachment.  The speakers and attendees were far more knowledgeable and informed about Iraq than what I see expressed in the text of this resolution.  I find it disturbing that the public is so far ahead of our representatives on this subject.

    The strongest force represented in the information forums was the military--both veterans and families of the troops.  They were very specific and emphatic about what's needed.  They believe the situation in Iraq is lost, a total failure, and that any escalation is absurd.  They want the troops to be removed at the soonest possible date.  They are undivided in their resolve to cut off ANY additional funding for the war.  They specified not one more penny should be approved by Congress.  There are adequate existing funds to provide for safely withdrawing the troops--they checked this out thoroughly and found there are enough funds to fuel the war for 6-7 months that could be diverted to redeployment operations with money left over.  These are the very people who feel most strongly about their relatives and friends and would do nothing to jeopardize their safety.  

    My daughter is in the reserves and her husband is on active duty.  I'm fed up with meaningless rhetoric and politicians who are too chicken-hearted to come to grips with the stark reality that is Iraq.  They are willing to forfeit the lives of my daughter and her husband, and thousands like them, because they're afraid the public's appetite for "victory" will threaten their political careers if it's not delivered.  While they search for just the right words to express failure of this ill-conceived endeavor without calling it a failure, they allow our children to be targets in the middle of a civil war.  They put forth empty non-binding resolutions.  Well, let me tell you, death is binding.  The troops have no defense.  They have no voice.  It's up to us to reach in and pull them out of this situation.  It's up to Congress to act.

    The Warner-Levin resolution is not worth the time it takes to read it.  

    Your bill, Senator Feingold, takes us in the right direction.  Even better is HR 508 (Woolsey/Waters/Lee bill introduced in the House).  I say it's better because it's more comprehensive and provides a very detailed plan.  It was my understanding that Bernie Sanders would be co-authoring a companion bill to HR508 in the Senate, but I've heard nothing about it since I returned from DC.  

    This is a crisis that only a few of our elected representatives are willing to come to terms with.  They are not worthy of the sacrifice of one individual.  

  •  An Alternative View (1+ / 0-)
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    With the greatest respect to your position, Senator Feingold, I'd like to offer an alternative view. The world is listening. In many areas of the world (and particularly Europe) the idea of a "vote of no confidence" is particularly significant.

    When the headlines hit the foreign papers, they won't say: "Five members voted no because the measure was not strong enough, and twenty voted no because they are oblivious to the immorality of the war..." They will simply list the vote, and the presumption will be that those who did not vote for the measure support Bush.

    I am sincerely concerned that the world realize that the American people oppose this disaster, and the vote may say that. Then we move on to stop it--immediately.

  •  Simply a vote to continue the war... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...and practically approve what Bush is already dioing.

    The following are the parts Sen. Feingold was most concerned with, with my comments.

    (22) The recommendations in this Act should
    not be interpreted as precipitating any immediate reduction
    in, or withdrawal of, the present level of

    No change yet.

    (b) SENSE OF CONGRESS.-It is the sense of Congress that-

    (1) the Senate disagrees with the "plan" to
    augment our forces by 21,500, and urges the President
    instead to consider all options and alternatives
    for achieving the strategic goals set forth below;

    Could be more, could be less.  21,500 somehow doesn't set well with us, though.

    (2) the Senate believes that the United States
    should continue vigorous operations in Anbar province,
    specifically for the purpose of combating an insurgency,
    including elements associated with the AI
    Qaeda movement, and denying terrorists a safe

    Let's keep-a-fightin.  George ought to love this one.

    (3) the Senate believes a failed state in Iraq
    would present a threat to regional and world peace,
    and the long-term security interests of the United
    States are best served by an Iraq that can sustain,
    govern, and defend itself, and serve as an ally in the
    war against extremists;

    So we may have to stay there forever.  Can't let it "fail" -- whatever that means...but give us time -- we'll come up with a definition of "fail" just as soon as we come up with one for "win."

    (4) the Congress should not take any action
    that will endanger United States military forces in
    the field, including the elimination or reduction of
    funds for troops in the field, as such action with respect
    to funding would undermine their safety or
    harm their effectiveness in pursuing their assigned

    Let't keep all the troops there until -- until -- well, let's just keep 'em all there for now.

    (5) the primary objective of the overall U.S.
    strategy in Iraq should be to encourage Iraqi leaders
    to make political compromises that will foster reconciliation
    and strengthen the unity government, ultimately
    leading to improvements in the security situation;

    We're sure Maliki will take care of all that we want him to.  We mean, he just HAS to.

    (6) the military part of this strategy should
    focus on maintaining the territorial integrity of Iraq,
    denying international terrorists a safe haven, conducting
    counterterrorism operations, promoting regional
    stability, supporting Iraqi efforts to bring
    greater security to Baghdad, and training and
    equipping Iraqi forces to take full responsibility for
    their own security;

    We just won't discuss how this could possibly come about outside of a Disney movie.  Sounds mighty nice and impressive, though, don't it?

    (7) United States military operations should, as
    much as possible, be confined to these goals, and
    should charge the Iraqi military with the primary
    mission of combating sectarian violence;

    Is this the same Iraqi military who doesn't show up for work, disappears when they're most needed, and has other loyalties?   Nah...if we hope hard enough we just might wish another Iraqi military into existence.

    (12) our overall military, diplomatic and economic
    strategy should not be regarded as an "openended"
    or unconditional commitment, but rather as
    a new strategy that hereafter should be conditioned
    upon the Iraqi government's meeting benchmarks
    that must be delineated in writing and agreed to by
    the Iraqi Prime Minister and the Administration.
    Such benchmarks should include, but not be limited
    to, the deployment of that number of additional
    Iraqi security forces as specified in the plan in
    Baghdad, ensuring equitable distribution of the resources
    of the Government of Iraq without regard to
    the sect or ethnicity of recipients, enacting and implementing
    legislation to ensure that the oil resources
    of Iraq benefit Sunni Arabs, Shia Arabs,
    Kurds, and other Iraqi citizens in an equitable manner,
    and the authority of Iraqi commanders to make
    tactical and operational decisions without political

    And we have complete confidence that the mercurial Maliki and his crack team will happily produce all this for us.  We're sure.  Really.

    Oh, wait!  Now we understand the compromise!  This is the one where we all compromise our integrity!

    "I think once they get in harm's way, Congress's tradition is to support those troops." --Stephen J. Hadley

    by dov12348 on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 04:17:59 AM PST

    •  poetic (0+ / 0-)

      George ought to love this one.

      cloudy and cold with an 80% chance that this came out of his office.

      rubber, meet stamp.  

      we just approved something borrowed, something blue.  something fucked up, nothing new.

      © 2007 back in the cave

      "Life is a dream for the wise, a game for the fool, a comedy for the rich, a tragedy for the poor." --Sholem Yakov Rabinowitz

      by Back in the Cave on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 05:43:14 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  After Nixon Resigned Under Political Pressure... (1+ / 0-)
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    the punditry celebrated that our system worked. We are at another crucial moment in the history of our Democracy. If a discredited administration, with less than 30% support, continues to prosecute an unpopular war and pushes toward starting another war, with no check on its power, the people and the punditry will be correct in saying that our system has failed miserably. You are taking the right approach. If you feel that support for this bill will somehow preclude challenging  our crackpot regimes ability to make policy, then you are right to oppose it. The strength and success of our system rests in the hands of yourself and your legislative associates. The three things that are of the utmost importance for our democracy right now as we are in the midst of being ruled by a crackpot regime are these:

    • The financial ability to prosecute the Iraq war must be curtailed.
    • It must be clarified that war conducted against Iran without Congressional approval will be grounds for a speedy impeachment and removal from office.
    • Impeachment charges covering all the high crimes and misdemeanors of the crackpot regime have to start being assembled.

    You and your legislative associates have got to fulfill the historical mission of showing that our system works. Failure will be on your collective soldiers.

    Keep on fighting the good fight!

  •  I'm late to this discussion (0+ / 0-)

    I'm late to this discussion, but thank you SO much for saying this Senator Feingold. You continue to have my utmost respect. Its always refreshing to see a Senator stand up for what's right.

  •  I agree with the Senator completely. (0+ / 0-)

    The Congress should should meet in a different city every day of the week (Sat&Sun excluded, grudgingly) and travel by bus between sessions. They should go on tour like a rock band or Willie Nelson and "perform" their duties before real live americans. I believe such a tour would produce A RADICAL change in our representatives' perspective by the third week.

    Russ doesn't need any such enlightenment- nor do Bernie Sanders, Jim webb and a large number of dedicated democratic congress-people, but SOMEHOW, reality must prevail before it's too late.

  •  Please reconsider (0+ / 0-)
    and run for President. I have no idea who else to support and we really need your leadership. Thanks.

    "The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again, but already it was impossible to say which was which."

    by Lefty the playwright on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 05:25:35 AM PST

  •  Non-binding resolutions do nothing, watered down (0+ / 0-)

    resolutions do even less.  How many more lives have to be taken and destroyed for this madness to end?  Thank you, Senator Feingold for taking the right course of action.  We need you to be our voice and our vote for what we know is right.

  •  sorry to be so late to this thread (0+ / 0-)

    i'm just back from the airport.

    which brings me to my comment:  

    senator, please avoid small aircraft for a while.

    thank you for writing this diary.  i think that it was braver than you know.  or perhaps you knew.  

    godspeed to you, and i hope your chivalry and spine are a catalyst to your colleagues. you are a hero to all of us here.

    © 2007 back in the cave

    "Life is a dream for the wise, a game for the fool, a comedy for the rich, a tragedy for the poor." --Sholem Yakov Rabinowitz

    by Back in the Cave on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 05:37:42 AM PST

  •  so discouraged (0+ / 0-)

    Thank you Senator for being one of a very few who is actually trying to do the peoples bidding.
    I thought that the last election send a pretty damn loud and clear message declaring that we the people want this madness stopped. That's sure as hell what I was saying with my vote.
    I understand that it takes 60 votes in the Senate to get much done, and that a stronger measure would not garner enough Republican support. I say "so what?" Bush has already stated that he will ignore any resolution that passes anyway. Why are the Democrats so deathly afraid of being called names by the Republicans? Did they think the last election was some sort of bizzare endorsement of the presidents policies? Can they not read the polls? Do they not ever talk to their constituents?
    Senator Schumer came here a while back asking us to help define the Democratic party's stands. He admitted that the perception exists that the Democrats don't really stand for anything. Well, is it any wonder? Doesn't he see that wishy washy, non-binding resolutions are bad enough to begin with but then when they water them down still further because a handfull of the Republicans object, what the hell are people supposed to think? That the Dems are tough warriors willing to fight for their principles? Give me a break.
    The Democratic party's continual willingness to back down in fear from one of the most unpoular presidents in history, and to constantly cave into a minority party that they soundly thrashed in the most recent election may look like statesmanship to Harry Reid and Senator Levin, but it looks like pure cowardice to folks like me, and it's damned hard to continually vote for cowards.

  •  Thank you isn't enough to express (0+ / 0-)

    my appreciation for your intelligent, principled, and (spine of titanium) firm approach.

    I wish my own (NY) senators were cut from similar cloth. And as much as I love having you (and as much as America needs you) in the Senate, I hope at least one of our presidential nominees has the sense to ask you to be their running mate (whether you accept or not is, of course, up to you. ;-)

  •  cloture (0+ / 0-)

    Seems to me there is a technical point that no one is discussing.
    There is first a motion to determine whether the Senate will even consider a bill. This cloture motion needs 60 votes to pass- otherwise it can be fillibuster.
    Now I would expect Sen Feingold to vote for that cloture motion. Certainly he should support the right of the Senators to express themselves.

    But then he could vote against the bill.

    As for his desired bill, seems to me that it would be unlikely to make it to the floor, given the Republican views. So he can support it but whats the point.

  •  Warner Resolution is NOT better than nothing. (0+ / 0-)

    No resolution at all is far preferable than this mess. It is an embarrassing endorsement of Bush Iraq policy and a truly nauseating pander to 'the troops'. It is even worse than Senator Feingold says, because he is bound by the intellect and dignity that we so love him for. In simple words, it's a POS. Better not to have anything than this.

    We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. Aesop (620 - 560 BC) -8.13, -7.74

    by AWhitneyBrown on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 07:03:14 AM PST

  •  summing up the state of our country in one word: (0+ / 0-)


    what totally freaks me out is that our country (and our entire planet) is on a fast track to doom, and all i hear about in the news is that biden or kerry or hillary or whoever made a boo boo in an interview.  as if they really were racist or thought our soldiers were dumb or thought our husbands are evil.  guess what?  our representatives are human, just like us.  and nobody died because of any of their slips of the lip.

    can we please figure out a way to wake us up to what's important?

    my 15-year-old daughter wants so badly to do something about global warming.  i want us to get out of iraq right away.  we don't want our children to pay for bush's mistakes after we're dead.  we want the current administration to pay for their fabricated motives for getting us into this war now.  we want an economy back for the middle class.  we don't want to have to be in debt for our entire lives because we can't afford a school for our children or healthcare for our elderly parents.

    i know that i'm freaking out because for the first time in six years, the awful truth is coming out about what's been going on, as well as the news on global warming and the libby trial going on.

    thanks for trying so hard, senator.  we need 99 more like you.

    help, f

  •  Senator Feingold, someone has to address Iran (0+ / 0-)

    hawking.  We need pre-emptive legislation!  

  •  Kennedy and Webb disagree (2+ / 0-)
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    They are both planning on supporting this resolution.

  •  Completely agree - risk losing momentum (0+ / 0-)

    That Resolution would be worse than doing nothing.

    The Dems are being outmaneuvered again - this is not a time for compromise or incrementalism.

    I fear that Dems are losing the momentum.

  •  I agree Senator! (0+ / 0-)

    The way I see it, America has the same options a poker player has with regard to Iraq:  Fold, Call, Raise, and All-In.

    Only two of those options will work in my opinion.  The President has proposed to "Raise", i.e add troops.
    Congress has decided to "Stay", i.e. no surge, no draw-down.
    You propose "Fold", which I prefer, i.e. begin a gradual draw-down/redeployment.
    No one has proposed "All-In", i.e. Raise taxes, ration gas, start a draft, and put 500,000 troops in Iraq, engage in unpleasant diplomatic brokering with our "enemies" Iran and Syria.

    "All-in" might work, (though I fear that too many bridges may have already been burned)

    "Fold" might also work, if you view it in a cold cost-benefit analysis.  Careful withrawal to the permanent bases no one wants to about seems like an excellent idea.  It's gonna take 18 monthes at least to leave, so why not start leaving now?

    So when the President says "all options for victory are on the table", he is lying!  Raising taxes; off the table.  Draft; off the table.  Rationing gas; off the table.  Engaging our "enemies"; off the table.

    "We're working to get the right things done, for the right people and for the right reasons." ~Jim Webb

    by Thaddaeus Toad on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 07:39:32 AM PST

  •  As usual, your ideas are the best and well (0+ / 0-)

    thought out.  

    I live in Tennessee, but I consider you my third senator.

    Thank you!

    Mental Heath Parity For All! It's the right thing to do. - 7.50, -7.79

    by Rogneid on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 07:41:04 AM PST

  •  No - thank you! (0+ / 0-)

    Thank you for showing our party and government the way out of the Iraq quagmire.

  •  Rumor has it that you will join the fillibuster (0+ / 0-)

    of the Warner Levin resolution. Please, DON'T. The Warner/Levin bill is hugely embarassing to the White House. it's also the only thing that can pass and overcome a veto. Bush is going to wage war whatever happens. But this hurts them. It's great for you to keep Democrats honest, but DON'T go too far. Don't become another Ralph Nader, and in your zeal to reform, help to destroy.

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    by moon in the house of moe on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 08:22:49 AM PST

  •  Warner is the Stay The Course resolution (0+ / 0-)

    And there's your soundbite.


    The President is not my master. He is Chief among my servants.

    by DemCurious on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 08:30:06 AM PST

  •  Thank you thank you thank you n/t (0+ / 0-)
  •  Tough call. Is it really better to have nothing (1+ / 0-)
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    passed then to have Warner-Levin passed?  The fact that a Republican's name is on the sponsorship certainly lends powerful credence to the message.  Frankly, I don't know.  

    We Changed The Course!

    by hcc in VA on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 08:39:53 AM PST

  •  I'm confused... (0+ / 0-)

    Ideally, what I would like (at least as of today) is for BushCo and company to be immediately removed from office, the occupation/war/debacle in Iraq to be brought to an nice, effective close ASAP, for politicians to be held accountable for their misdeeds and for the Constitution of the United States to regain its authority.

    That being said: I am not an expert in legislation lingo,and I don't just want to say three cheers when someone says something I want to hear if 1) what I want to hear isn't realistically and/or safely doable 2) I am just trusting that what they say is the truth is the truth.

    So I have a few questions. If the answers to these questions are obvious or if I might have misinterpreted something.please feel free to clue me I plan on doing additional research regardless, but at least this way I'll have a starting point.

    1. What exactly is meant by cutting off funding? Because according to the link provided by Sen. Feingold his bill "does not prevent any U.S. troops from receiving salaries, equipment, training and other resources" but how does it not prevent this?
    1. Would Sen. Feingold's resolution cut funding off for the troops on the ground now? Or for the 21,500 troops Bush wants to send? Or does it do both?
    1. What's to prevent Bush from saying "screw you I'm sending the 21,500 troops anyway regardless of the fact that you won't provide funding and if a bunch of them die because they didn't have the funding they needed to properly protect themselves it's on your conscious (since I clearly don't have one)"?
    1. If we know for a fact that Bush is going to veto Feingold's legislation, then isn't this also, inevitably, just an exercise in symbolism?
    1. Is six months really a realistic timeline to get the troops out of Iraq? If yes, why?
    1. How exactly does the Warner-Levin resolution prevent the redeployment of the troops in Iraq? Would it be better if they defined the word immediate (since arguably that word could be open to interpretation)?
    1. According to the link provided by Sen. Feingold his bill "provides specific exceptions for Conducting targeted counter-terrorism operations in Iraq" doesn't that provide a loophole given that "targeted counter-terrorism operations in Iraq" could be open to interpretation?
    1. I know that in the big scheme of things this might seem superficial, but how do Democrats counter the headlines that will inevitably 1) scream that they've voted to cut funding 2) falsely define how they cut funding so as misinform the public and make the Democrats look bad?

    I guess that's it for now. Any unbiased help in answering the above would be appreciated.

    All my life I've had one dream: to achieve my many goals. - H. Simpson

    by henna218 on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 08:58:01 AM PST

  •  Not either or (1+ / 0-)
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    With all due respect, senator, I don't think that the weaker, non-binding, resolution is a mistake. Voting for it doesn't prevent your voting for -- or introducing -- something stronger.
    And having it on record puts the president on notice that the Senate disagrees with his doubling down.

  •  Thank you Senator (0+ / 0-)

    I was skeptical of the Biden/Hagel resolution, but willing to go along with the concept of first step toward change.  The Warner/Levin effort, not so much.  

    I think I understand where Senator Warner is coming from, but what's wrong with Senator Levin?  Why is a smart experienced man, with years of reading election results in his history, going along with a limp offering like this resolution?  

    It seems calculated to have no effect whatsoever on the Bush Admiinistration, and to enrage people who thought they were voting for change.  You are right to say NO.

  •  Impeach (0+ / 0-)
    Impeach now (or rather, please ask the House to do so, and vote to convict later).

    No more non-binding resolutions - you can't shame someone who does not care.

    Last year, Sen. Feinstein put out a recorded message calling on the Bush Administration to make 2006 a year of 'significant transition' in Iraq; and I have not heard her indicate if she felt that had been achieved. I called her D.C. office recently as a CA resident and expressed my sense that this demanded transition had not occurred; and I encouraged her to stand up more forcefully against the escalation. Senator, would you please remind Senator Feinstein of her statement, and seek her help in resolving this urgent matter? Thank you.

    "What's in the name of lord [governor], that I should fear; To bring my grievance to the public ear?" - The Crisis, January 13, 1777

    by TPaine on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 09:46:55 AM PST

  •  Waitaminute (0+ / 0-)

    "If you vote for this resolution, you are voting against redeploying troops from Iraq."

    No, if you vote for this resolution, you are opposing the troop surge.

    If Democrats vote for the next supplemental or against a cutoff of funding for the war, THEN they are voting against redeploying troops.

    Clearly there's more work to be done to get Dems to that point. But haranguing them and denouncing them for their lack of spine will not help to convince them.

    "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan

    by dzhessi on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 10:11:00 AM PST

  •  Do they (0+ / 0-)

    Sen. Feingold you are one of the few good ones, keep up the good fight.
    One question though about your colleagues.

    Do they have to have special chairs made for the senate?  I mean it can't be easy for your fellow senators sitting in chairs when they have no spines.  

    Generals gathered in their masses Just like witches at black masses.. Evil minds that plot destruction Sorcerers of deaths construction..........

    by pissedpatriot on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 10:12:09 AM PST

  •  Thanks, Senator, for your courage. (0+ / 0-)
    You will be remembered for this.
  •  Sen (0+ / 0-)

    We need your voice & are counting on you.
    Please stop this Bush insanity.

    Bush wants additional funds for the war $245 Billion

    Bush wants additional (surge/escalation) troops for the war 21,500 + additional support which really means approx 48,000 more troops.

    Can we as a nation afford his mishandling of Iraq and the Middle East?

    Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official... ~Theodore Roosevelt

    by Pam from Calif on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 10:43:28 AM PST

  •  Please stop the war drums on Iran, too. (2+ / 0-)
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    Time to disclose the minutes from Cheney's Energy Policy Meetings!!

    by mattes on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 10:44:03 AM PST

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    Five of Diamonds

    Please bring our troops home now!

  •  Russ Feingold - Mensch (n/t) (3+ / 0-)
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  •  Senator Feingold, (0+ / 0-)

    If only every Democrat in Congress was capable of demonstrating the backbone that you have repeatedly proven to the American people.  Your PAC truly deserves the label "Progressive Patriot."  That is exactly what you are.

    No rational justification exists for the continued US occupation of Iraq.  Any extension of their presence beyond what is necessary to bring them home safely must be political maneuvering, which is wholly unacceptable when it comes to the lives of our troops.

    Keep up the GREAT work!

  •  You're wrong for 2 reasons, sir... (0+ / 0-)

    1-Congress has to go on record NOW opposing Bush or a lot of fine Congressman and Senators are going to be looking for other lines of work in 08. So either oppose Bush now or pay the price! The people have spoken LOUD and CLEAR in November 06. They want our troops to start coming home NOW. But as my grandfather always said, "Half a loaf is better than NO loaf"! So you didn't get the Res. you wanted. But you had better go on record in favor of OUR will-not the Decider's! If you fear the wrath of Bush more than ours don't bother. The Warner/Levin res. and others is a "base-line" or starting point. Once you have your foot in the door you can always come back for bigger and better resolutions.

    2-Under Article I Section 8 Congress already has ALL of the power it needs to end this war! How? Don't you have the power to "Declare War"? Then doesn't it also follow that you also have the power to "UN-DECLARE" unpopular, unwise, or wars that were based on oil or hegemony or on deception or down-right lies? Congress can and should "REVOKE" THE 2003 AUMF and pass a law odering Mister Bush to immediately cease hostilities and submit to Congress a plan for the orderly withdrawal of our troops. Didn't he swear an oath to "faithfully execute the law"? Well, CONGRESS CAN STILL LEGISLATE the last time I looked. Pass a "veto proof" law today! And make Mister Bush enforce the law! He may be Commander-in-Chief and have the "lawnmower" but Congress can always say, "You may have the lawnmower, SIR but we say you no longer have a lawn to mow!"

    Change the course--change the Captain. Change the crew. But save the ship!

    by ImpeachKingBushII on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 12:24:53 PM PST

  •  Senator Feingold speaks for me. (1+ / 0-)
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    Thanks for articulating the clear moral choice. Win or lose, your view needs to be stated and fought for. I wish Senator Wellstone were here to fight back too.  

    No Blood for Oil... Stop Bush/Cheney Before They Get Us All Killed

    by skywriter on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 12:30:15 PM PST

    •  I second! (0+ / 0-)

      We have missed Paul every single day of this national nightmare.  Go Russ!  Don't ever back down!!  Shame on the play-it-safe, DLC DINO pukes!

    •  You don't always get what you want... (0+ / 0-)

      ...the 1st time you ask for it. That's why it's called NEGOTIATION, right? Has anyone ever thought the repubs want to save face? Many of them are about to lose their political careers and their whole party over Bush's War! I say let them save face. Senator Feingold like you I vehemently opposed this war , Bush's War FROM BEFORE ITS ONSET! All I'm saying if we let the repubs save face with this resolution or others, then we can say, "We backed yours so now you can back ours." As you well know, sir in Washington it's oftentimes QUID PRO QUO or you scratch my back and scratch yours!

       Why should they give-in to our resolution if we're not even willing to budge one inch on theirs? Aren't we then just like the Decider? It's not "his way or the highway" and it's not that way for us. We can't have it BOTH ways, sir! I submit to you sir that the only way to get the repubs on board is through compromise and negotiation and letting them save face.

       I am deeply concerned that failing to grasp any resolution at all right now would mean certain defeat in the future for any at all. Half a loaf is better than no loaf, sir!

      Change the course--change the Captain. Change the crew. But save the ship!

      by ImpeachKingBushII on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 01:51:12 PM PST

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  •  As usual, Russ hit it right on the head ! (0+ / 0-)

    The Warner/Levin resolution will not accomplish a damn thing. The only thing that this renegade administration understands is strong and forceful ACTION. All further funding for this unlawful "war" should be limited to what may be needed for the safe exiting of our troops from Iraq. Iraq is in a civil war so the level of violence will be the same whether or not Americans remain there. Civil wars can only be resolved by those who are warring.

  •  Sen. Feingold, I didn't know that you were (0+ / 0-)

    opposed to the conclusions of the Iraq Study Group.  I hope I find some reasons on your site.  I think the real problem here is that their recommendations have been ignored.  I think you guys should hold off ALL money for the war until Bush agrees to implement all of the findings of the ISG, especially working these out with Syria and Iran.

    Then, I think our troops' presence and activity there would be that much more successful and we wouldn't just be sending more in to be attacked for the aggravation that their enlarging presence would create.

    Be adults, and talk to Iran and Syria.  Go over the President's head if you have to.

    Bring the whole Senate to Iran to speak with the parliament there.  A few members of the House are on a fact finding mission (or whatever they want to call it) in the ME.

    Demand that all senators go to the area to find out what exactly is going on, not just a few who are interested because they want to be president or are afraid that someone might say to them, "you've never even been there."

    Jim Webb is the man that John McCain pretends to be.

    by lostinbrasil on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 01:04:40 PM PST

    •  The ISG Was a Joke... (0+ / 0-)

      ...intended as cover for Numbnuts and the DINOs that support this monstrosity called Iraq.  Read the report.  Notice the little tidbit about opening up the oil fields to PRIVATE oil companies, rather than allowing oil revenue to be used to benefit the Iraqi people!  Why do you think Cheney went all the way to the Supreme Court to avoid releasing een the attendees to his "Energy Task Force" meetings?

      •  When I first found out about that in 2001 (0+ / 0-)

        that was the first reason that I started disliking Cheney.

        But, about the Iraq Study Group Report, what's the problem with getting Bush to communicate with Iran and Syria?

        Jim Webb is the man that John McCain pretends to be.

        by lostinbrasil on Fri Feb 02, 2007 at 02:36:22 PM PST

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  •  Feingold's my senator (0+ / 0-)

    And it's one the the things that makes me damn proud to be a Wisconsinite.
    Senator Feingold, I ain't gonna lie......i'm still quite depressed about your decision not to seek the presidency.
    Still very saddened by this...

    "I don't wanna listen to the fundamentalist preachers anymore!" -Howard Dean

    by astronautagogo on Sat Feb 03, 2007 at 03:32:05 AM PST

  •  Russ -- thank you.'s a suggestion: (0+ / 0-)

    From my diary this morning, please consider:

    1. Revoke or suspend the AUMF for the President to act to respond to the terrorists of 9/11. It must be rewritten and reworked to include measurable oversight and accountability.
    2. Revoke (or suspend) the AUMF that pertains to the Iraq invasion. It provides the Executive Branch far too much authority to make war wherever he wishes as part of his actions in Iraq, which by and large have accomplished the stated mission and utterly failed to do so in a manner consistent with competence. A new resolution, one designed to keep troop levels constant then begin to withdraw them, must be drafted. It shall implement oversight and renegotiate contracts with contractors to impose stiff accountability and reporting measures, taking the primary control over the rebuilding away from the Executive Branch and placing it with an independent committee that will report to Congress.
    3. Immediately pass a resolution stating that the President and his officers, as well as the Pentagon and their agents, will cease and desist all attempts to provoke, taunt, instigate or initiate a conflict with Iran; any and all monies directed toward "catapulting the propaganda" in support of an action against Iran will be redirected back toward rebuilding Iraq.
    4. Congress will immediately Censure the Bush Administration for the intentional delay of the National Intelligence Estimate for what appears to be purely political reasons that conflict with their proposed solution for Iraq as well as their attempts to place a preponderance of blame for the Iraq debacle on Iran.

    Let your colleagues know that, should they fail to start acting like True Winter Patriots now, then -- regardless of Party Affiliation -- we shall begin addressing them as "George Bush Republicans."

    Nobody, and I mean nobody, will want to be called a "George Bush Republican" by the time this Presidency is over. Probably a lot sooner than that, too.

    Thanks for all your hard work.

    Never, never brave me, nor my fury tempt:
      Downy wings, but wroth they beat;
    Tempest even in reason's seat.

    by GreyHawk on Sat Feb 03, 2007 at 04:21:07 AM PST

  •  Make the Republicans (0+ / 0-)

    filibuster a tough disapproval resolution.  Whether it passes or not is immaterial, since it is non-binding anyway.

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