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Everybody loves a celebrity death, the national shared tragedy of a life, however messed up it might have been, cut short. What else could explain the  Anna-fest playing out all over the tv? The cable news networks will tell you that there's a demand for this kind of public mourning, that our society craves it and that the ratings will prove it. But what if there were a concerted effort by our national media to turn that zeitgeist to another, daily tragedy, playing out in the lives of thousands of Americans every day?

They might consider talking to Eric Fair, a linguist recently returned to the U.S. from his job as a contract interrogator. I think he could tell a compelling story:

Despite my best efforts, I cannot ignore the mistakes I made at the interrogation facility in Fallujah. I failed to disobey a meritless order, I failed to protect a prisoner in my custody, and I failed to uphold the standards of human decency. Instead, I intimidated, degraded and humiliated a man who could not defend himself. I compromised my values. I will never forgive myself.

Or perhaps the story of journalist Michael Hastings, a young man who also just came home from Iraq, accompanied by the coffin of his fiancee, Andrea Parhamovich:

In Iraq since autumn, Parhamovich was hired by the nonprofit National Democratic Institute in Washington, D.C., to help Iraqi politicians communicate with their constituents. "Andi thought the invasion of Iraq was a mistake," Hastings pointed out, "and she was trying to fix the mistake...."

On Jan. 17, Parhamovich left a meeting in a dangerous neighborhood outside the relative safety of Baghdad's Green Zone. As many as 50 insurgents armed with machine guns and grenades attacked her convoy of three armored BMW sedans, Hastings said. Three security contractors accompanying her also were killed.

And finally, there's number 3,115. Jennifer Parcell was 20 years old. She joined her brother in Iraq, and was in a unit supporting operations in Al Anbar province when she was killed in action yesterday.

According to one report, she "always enjoyed the water, including boating and scuba diving. She also liked yoga and music and spending time with family and friends."

This is what her aunt says about this unique woman that America mourns tonight:

"If you knew her, you loved her. She was a go-getter. She knew what she wanted in life and she was doing what she had to do to achieve that."

There's plenty of grief to go around today.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:16 AM PST.

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  •  And MSNBC IS DEVOTING A FULL HR (10-11am EST) (11+ / 0-)

    To the inane and irrelevant Anna story.
    Yesterday I switch my TV off and when on it was on HGTV.

  •  My daughter is 20 years old, and we are (9+ / 0-)

    planning her June wedding, while that Mom plans a February funeral.  My mind just can't get wrapped around the gross injustice of it.  And my hearts breaks into one thousand pieces for all of them, and for all of us.

    "Never argue with an idiot; they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with the experience." ~ anonymous

    by panicbean on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:16:48 AM PST

  •  # 3,115 (9+ / 0-)

    It's so shameful. Now, we'll be told that she died in vain unless we achieve victory (?) in Iraq.

    If we'd ended the occupation last week (not even avoided the idiotic war, not even avoided the ruinous occupation and looting, but just left a week ago), she'd be alive.

    As always, mcjoan, your work is appreciated.

    Look, Lois - the two symbols of the Republican party: an elephant, and a fat white man who's afraid of change. -- Peter Griffin

    by Bayern Munich on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:16:55 AM PST

  •  Is it time to take to the streets yet?? (3+ / 0-)
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    Certainly the MSM isn't going to pay attention unless we do.  The elections didn't mean a thing-so what to do???


  •  AMEN! (10+ / 0-)

    I was getting so irritated.  The collective voyeurism of our society is gross.  How many 39-year-old's dies yesterday.  Yeah, I know she was famous.  But her fame was based on our bizarre facsination with other people's problems.  Call Ameican Schadenfreude.  But for the news media to pre-empt stories with actual moment to tell this torrid tabloid tale was disgusting.

    "We're working to get the right things done, for the right people and for the right reasons." ~Jim Webb

    by Thaddaeus Toad on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:19:49 AM PST

    •  The irony to me (5+ / 0-)

      is that the media was never so kind to the woman while she was actually alive.

      But it's all a digression. People die all the time, and the daily tragedies in Iraq are the ones happening in our names. And happening far too quietly, with little notice apart from the number.

      That the news media has decided to take over the airwaves with this story says something incredible about what the news media has become.

    •  agree Thad (2+ / 0-)
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      this need of people to see into the lives of celebrities and to seek fame for themselves ( evidenced by the tens of thousands of people applying for reality tv shows ) is absolutely ridiculous and quite disconcerting.

      I was more fascinated by a documentary done by CNN about a Military Trauma Hospital Unit in Baghdad. Sadly, it was only one hour. No networks are vying to cover even human interest stories about our troops. Many families and soldiers would like to share their stories but there seems to be a small audience for that. That is what I would like to see if we are going to look into the lives of others via this medium.

      Non Binding is only Good for Undergarments, not for Senate Resolutions.

      by wishingwell on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:50:02 AM PST

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      •  You're abosultely right! (0+ / 0-)

        I guess this is the American version of the Games.  The priviledged class, and the TV stations they own, have seen the value of dumbing down the masses, in the hope they might not notice the collective-royal-assfucking they've been handing out.  It's why they've sought to shrink the middle class.  It's why they don't teach civics in high schools.  They realize that hungry, troubled people can be disillusioned into apathy, only requiring the vicarious fantasy of rich, ridiculous, celebrity antics to pass their time, and ease their mind.  It offends me because it presumes that We the People are not serious enough to wish to talk about issues of real import.  

        "We're working to get the right things done, for the right people and for the right reasons." ~Jim Webb

        by Thaddaeus Toad on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 11:38:27 AM PST

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  •  I'm trying to imagine the supermarket tabloids (2+ / 0-)
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    covered in garish headlines about and photos of Andrea Parhamovich and it's kind of creeping me out. A tabloid life gets you a tabloid death, I think. There's a whole different kind of sadness being manipulated there...

  •  Doug Feith sets the record straight (8+ / 0-)

    NPR just had an interview with an outraged Doug Feith, author of the abortion that is our involvement in Iraq.  Feith was practically apoplectic - absolutely beside himself - categorically denying that anyone in his office had lied, misrepresented, cherry-picked...choose the verb you like.  The PR that used to be put about about Feith was that he was simply a bureaucratic f*ck-up, but I've recently read that he's actually a ruthless insider and the interview really underscored that.

    The man was defensive, I'm talking cornered animal defensive.  It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

    My favorite part of the interview was when Feith screamed out that it was BETTER for agencies to have MORE intelligence, irrespective of its validity.

    Point.  Set.  Match.

    •  Heh. (1+ / 0-)
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      (It's) BETTER for agencies to have MORE intelligence, irrespective of its validity

      I guess, say if the DOD janitor said he heard there might be a gremlin invasion from beneath the ground -- put it in the next NIE.

      Right, Douggie?  You dumb fuck.

      It's good for your enemies to think you're a little crazy. As long as you can back it up.

      by dov12348 on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:36:43 AM PST

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    •  Iwreck gets fucked and everyone of these (0+ / 0-)

      dribbling two inch dicks wants to tell us it couldn't have been them.

      BlueIndependent (The Bush Presidency) "It's more of a slow coup than any real shift in the politics of the country."

      by Carbide Bit on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:50:51 AM PST

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    •  Your comment just sent me on a tirade (1+ / 0-)
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      from one room to another, to another, waving my arms and yelling.  I hadn't heard this, and it's so infuriating.  Did we hurt his FEELINGS??!!  How DARE he be defensive?  Don't worry, I'm not going to get started on yet another rant, but it's time and past time to just go ahead and stick our heads out..cut off funds, get us the hell out of Iraq, and start intensive investigations.  Let them know we're investigating for a possible impeachment.  The Republicans are Republicans before they are anything else - before they're Americans, before they're civil servants, heck, before they're human beings.  Enough.  They think they can save their lying cheating murdering political butts by forcing us to cut off funds.  I think they're going to be just as shocked by the public's response to a cut-off of funds as they were to read headlines after their too-cute-by-half filibuster.

  •  No Cable... (8+ / 0-)

    No satellite, no TV at all.  Just got fed up paying $50.00 per month for the garbage they were pumping out.  I'll rent movies, or borrow commercial-free DVD's of good shows.  But I won't support the pablum that passes for television programming, particularly news.

    Today's frenzy sure solidifies that decision.  Cooked intel got us into a war; thousands die. Iraq interrogator confesses institutionalized torture.  And it's all Anna all the time?

    What is wrong with people????  Please someone save me from our shallow and idiotic culture!

    It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds - Samuel Adams

    by Red no more on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:21:06 AM PST

    •  I watch Youtube and Comedy Central (1+ / 0-)
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      on the internet at night.  Television programs are otherwise worthless and commercials are insulting.

      The shallow and idiotic culture ain't goin' anywhere.  Too many people "suck it down with a feeding tube," to quote Colbert.  

  •  In our neighborhood.... (14+ / 0-)

    we had Jennifer:

    Swampscott pilot lived her dream
    She was a skinny flute player in the band at Swampscott High School who set herself a goal: to attend the US Naval Academy and make it in one of the toughest branches of the military where women can fly directly into combat, the air wing of the Marines.

    And so she did.


    "She could have done anything with her life," said Jill Murtagh, 28, Harris's friend and high school classmate. "She was brilliant, one of the smartest, hardest-working women I've ever known, academically and personally. She could have chosen any path, and I think it was a great honor for her to serve the country."

    Best. Brightest. Lost.

  •  What else could explain the Anna-fest? (1+ / 0-)
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    Boobs. Seriously, this story lets the networks put chesty pics up on "serious" news shows which will increase their ratings, which sells more sugar water and soap flakes.

    Investigate now. Impeach later. Then Extradite. Then, something involving wolves...

    by nightsweat on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:21:50 AM PST

  •  The nerve of anyone (5+ / 0-)

    who thinks Anna Nicole's death was more tragic and sad than the deaths of any our troops has screwed up priorities. It makes me livid with a loved one in Iraq who witnesses death and casualties everyday.

    I think the Anna Nicole coverage had me crying and depressed for a different reason. It brought home how the death of some celebrity is more important than the news of this war. I think all it got me thinking and venting in a diary about our family's own agony and stress with our nephew..son Iraq..

    Non Binding is only Good for Undergarments, not for Senate Resolutions.

    by wishingwell on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:23:00 AM PST

    •  sadly, though (0+ / 0-)

      her death was more unexpected.

      "You know, I hear people say, well, civil war this, civil war that," George Walker Bush.

      by liberal atheist on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:27:36 AM PST

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      •  That's why it got more coverage (0+ / 0-)

        There's nothing 'new' about deaths in Iraq - they just report a number and move on...

        I don't know why we think, just because we're mighty, that we have the right to try to substitute might for right -- Wayne Morse (D-Ore), 1964

        by John H on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:29:16 AM PST

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      •  good point (2+ / 0-)
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        Gorette, Pandoras Box

        but nonstop coverage for what irritates the hell out of me.

        But then again, I am more easily irritated these days with my nephew as part of this surge and being in a more dangerous region of Iraq and other I am not at my best tolerance level as I normally would be.

        Non Binding is only Good for Undergarments, not for Senate Resolutions.

        by wishingwell on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:52:25 AM PST

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    •  Not more (1+ / 0-)
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      Anna Nicole Smith's death wasn't more tragic than anyone else's. But it was still a death, and she was a human being.

      And while I agree that the coverage has been overkill -- and then some -- more than the volume of coverage, I'm disturbed and disappointed that the AP news story on her death (and it was news, even if many other people died the same day), used the word "pneumatic" to describe her in the first sentence of the lead.

      Even Anna Nicole Smith deserves to be remembered for something other than her bust size.

  •  Ratings (0+ / 0-)

    You know, every single person who is complaining about the non-stop coverage is contributing to the problem by watching.  The only inundation of Anna Nicole Smith news I've seen all day is people here talking about it so much.

    What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite. -- Bertrand Russell

    by RequestedUsername on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:23:02 AM PST

    •  NO (5+ / 0-)

      I'm complaining...and I didn't watch a minute of the coverage.

      Opening Day - April 1, 2007

      by MikeBaseball on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:25:36 AM PST

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      •  I didn't watch any coverage (1+ / 0-)
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        But I like to complain about Anna Nicole Smith anyway.  I used to ask my best friend, if you saw Anna Nicole Smith walking down the street in your direction, would you turn and run the other way?

        •  You know what the best thing about (1+ / 0-)
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          not having a television is?  It's having to depend on daily kos to know that is all they are discussing on television.

          Democrats: Cleaning up Republican messes since 1933.

          by DCDemocrat on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 12:26:05 PM PST

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          •  You don't have a television? (2+ / 0-)
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            DCDemocrat, MikeBaseball

            Was it lost in the move or something?  I don't what I'd do without television.  Now I'm not quite as in love as Homer Simpson but I do like my tv.  

            •  I own a television, (1+ / 0-)
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              but I keep it in the closet.  (That's a loaded image.)  I will re-up my cable subscription in 2008, so I can watch the presidential race unfold.

              Democrats: Cleaning up Republican messes since 1933.

              by DCDemocrat on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 02:25:03 PM PST

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              •  LOL (1+ / 0-)
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                Your television is in the closet.  Perhaps when it comes out, it will finally be able to display Lifetime, Food Network, and other channels that it wouldn't before?  Will it display Sex and the City reruns with pride?

                That reminds me of this loser guy I was so into my senior year of high school(and...ahem...freshman year of college too) and his older sister had a Coming Out party which wealthy young Anglo-Saxon blueblooded women did way back in the day (apparently it's still done).  As you can imagine, they were a very conservative, traditional, Republican family.  Well I used to joke with this kid's more liberal cousin, "yeah he's a coming out party too only his parents won't be invited".  Lol.

                I'm glad you're going to pay for cable, otherwise I might have thought you were converting to Judiasm.  

    •  In fairness, I think we all tune in to the "news" (4+ / 0-)

      channels to get the NEWS--and are disgusted by what we see.  I would venture the most are turning it off immediately--some annoyed that there is no real news. FP'er is right-their (MSM) priorities are misplaced.

    •  I usually check out the TV news (3+ / 0-)

      when I'm home during the day. And I leave it on sometimes in the background, waiting for them to move on to actual news.

      Which ain't happening, and it's frightening.

    •  In my case, it's because it's what I watch (4+ / 0-)

      I work at home, and the TV is on in the background, tuned to a news station. I jump between local stations and MSNBC and CNN. I am complaining about all the Anna Nicole coverage because I want to see the damn NEWS, not her life story in minute detail ad nauseam.

      They aren't getting any ratings numbers from me -- I'm watching because I always watch. I'm not a Nielsen family, so unless Big Brother is registering my viewing choices, no one is keeping track.

      And believe me, I wrote all the stations I watch to stop with this crap. Was there one WORD about the Waxman hearings? Not in my market. All I heard yesterday all day long was Anna, Anna, Anna. Oh, and one tiny mention of Timmeh! at the Libby trial.

      Even DKos didn't have much news. It was all meta, all the time.

      •  Not sure (0+ / 0-)

        If you have cable they probably do report which channels you watch...

        I don't know why we think, just because we're mighty, that we have the right to try to substitute might for right -- Wayne Morse (D-Ore), 1964

        by John H on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:32:43 AM PST

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    •  well..... (1+ / 0-)
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      not necessarily are they are watching it...many of us turn on MSNBC to catch the news and what we see is nonstop Anna coverage.And we turn it off. But remember, we turn on TV to get news about Libby trial only to discover it is still Anna Nicole nonstop coverage.

      Now that we know this is Anna Nicole nonstop for probably the next week, We can keep the TV off. But many people turn on tv to actually see if the media came to their senses and has some real news. We discover to our dismay, no news but Anna.

      Non Binding is only Good for Undergarments, not for Senate Resolutions.

      by wishingwell on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:30:37 AM PST

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    •  a voice of sanity (4+ / 0-)

      from 'RequestedUsername' - watch C-Span instead and educate yourselves about how the system works and then do whatever is necessary to correct it, it is most illuminating. This morning I watched the military budget hearings, expremely enlightening. THis is exactly why I have satellite TV and radio, because from the BBC world Service I can try and understand what people all over the globe are feeling too. Tuning out is not the answer, selective reading and viewing is. Probably not as titillating, but understanding and knowledge is an essential component of a democratic society. Why do the cable networks broadcast such tripe, because it works, and these comments are proof of the pudding.

      •  good point soccer gram.... (0+ / 0-)

        true but I was tuning in for Scooter trial news and CSPAN is not covering that....but you are right, CSPAN is where I should be tuning in for more news. We do not get CSPAN2 so sometimes, watching every Congressional session in the house, tough to do when the topics can be so varied..I guess it depends what bill they are debating.

        Non Binding is only Good for Undergarments, not for Senate Resolutions.

        by wishingwell on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:54:48 AM PST

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        •  I don't get C-SPAN 3 (0+ / 0-)

          but do get 1 & 2. Another tip. If you have trouble sleeping leave it on all night, it is a marvellous medication for insomniacs, beats all those pills they push in the cable ads, and you don't have to clean up after the sheep either! have a nice day.

    •  To his credit... (0+ / 0-)

      Lou Dobbs did not cover this at all in his broadcast last night for a full hour.

      After Wolf Blitzer yammered about it on the Situation Room for an hour. Oh yeah, and right before Larry King went off for another hour afterward.

  •  Heartbreaking. (1+ / 0-)
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    All of it.

    Just sad.

    [ Draft Gore]

    by Jen Hayden on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:24:08 AM PST

  •  But then, if the MSM did that... (3+ / 0-)
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    You know, their jobs - the rabid wingnuts would be all a-froth with how they're focusing on the negatives and only looking for ways to turn the American people against the war...

    Anna Nicole Smith's death was a tragedy - Jennifer Parcell's death is a crime...

    I don't know why we think, just because we're mighty, that we have the right to try to substitute might for right -- Wayne Morse (D-Ore), 1964

    by John H on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:24:13 AM PST

  •  The military must think we are all nuts.... (6+ / 0-)

    Open letter to any military personnel reading this blog:

    Please, don't blame me for not agreeing with or supporting your mission in Iraq.  Please consider that every day, every morning, every evening, I think about you and the dangerous job you are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan.  I hope you do your job safely and well.  I don't want you to be injured or killed.  I don't want you to be there at all.  But I am at least thinking about you, not what ever whipped up frothy distraction the media uses to pull the American peoples' attention away from the war you are engaged in.  I am thinking about you, and hoping you come home safely to your family and friends.  America cares about you, but frankly, the media could give a hoot.  What ever makes the eyes turn to the screen.

    You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

    by murrayewv on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:24:38 AM PST

  •  Networks (2+ / 0-)
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    I swore if any any of the major networks led with this "Ms. Nobody Has Died" story last night I would never watch again. Luckily they didn't. But the cable news? Oh God...they are pitiful.

    Opening Day - April 1, 2007

    by MikeBaseball on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:24:39 AM PST

  •  Another sober take on this aberration (0+ / 0-)

    From Will Bunch at Attytood.

    I'm disappointed that Olbermann gave so much time to the Anna Nicole circus last night.  I thought he was somewhat immune to it, but his overlords must have turned the screws a bit.  Feh.

    I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!!!! 11/7/2006 = a good start!

    The Makindu Children's Program

    by Morrigan on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:25:10 AM PST

  •  I can't take hearing about soldiers dying (0+ / 0-)

    anymore.  But I will listen and be aware, nonetheless.   I cry a little every time I hear about it, and when Al puts up the photos of wives and mothers receiving the folded flags at funerals it puts me over the edge.

    On another note, jeez, I wish I had been a fabulously successful and wealthy Playboy bunny with the world at my fingertips.  How do these people just fuck all their success away?  Are most famous people just nuts, or does fame make them that way?

    And on yet another note, I wonder if Bush will be attending Smith's funeral.  At least he can't be blamed for her death.

  •  It is what it is (5+ / 0-)

    ANS led a juicy life, her son's death was mysterious, and her death was a juicy story.

    People love this stuff, and no amount of wailing and gnashing our teeth is going to change it.  

    The media would always play up this kind of story regardless of other more serious news, because news consumers lap it up.

    The problem is not that there is limited attention span for news so that the serious stuff gets crowded out by the fluff, the problem is that most people deliberately avoid the serious stuff, either because it conflicts with their world view or because they can't bear to face the bad news.

    That is what we have to work on.

    You can't reason someone out of something they weren't reasoned into. - Jonathan Swift

    by A Mad Mad World on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:26:32 AM PST

    •  Your user ID says it all!!! n/t (2+ / 0-)
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    •  Dirty Laundry (4+ / 0-)

      In the words of Don Henley, "We all know that crap is king..."

      I don't know why we think, just because we're mighty, that we have the right to try to substitute might for right -- Wayne Morse (D-Ore), 1964

      by John H on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:38:07 AM PST

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      •  That song is so apt (1+ / 0-)
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        People love it when you lose

        Kick 'em when they're up
        Kick 'em when they're down

        You don't really need to find out what's going on
        You don't really want to know just how far it's gone
        Just leave well enough love
        Eat your dirty laundry

        You can't reason someone out of something they weren't reasoned into. - Jonathan Swift

        by A Mad Mad World on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:41:41 AM PST

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        •  No real grief for Smith (0+ / 0-)

          I overheard some people in the post office yesterday afternoon talking about her death.  I only have the foggiest notion of who she is, but I was surprised at their tone.  They were basically joking about it, about who will get her money, etc.  It was no Princess Diana moment.  I don't think there is much going on with this story except voyeurism.  No shared mourning or anything constructive, except maybe a little compassion for her baby.  The story and the response are all tawdry, therefore esp. unworthy of coverage.  I hope it fades quickly.

          another american against the war(s)

          by extradish on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 10:10:41 AM PST

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          •  That only makes (1+ / 0-)
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            the media obsession with this story more pathetic. They think the nation is in mourning and wants to hear all about it. But people everywhere are mocking the story. Most are just hoping it will go away. But I watched a little of the coverage last night on CNN and they take themselves so damned seriously. I wonder if that's not the real national tragedy in this.

        •  Eventually the light turns red. (1+ / 0-)
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          A Mad Mad World

          But will they be driving a country or driving a car when it does ... who else dies with them is what concerns me most.

          Blowing and burnin', blinded by thirst
          They didn't see the stop sign, took a turn for the worst
          She said, "Listen baby, you can hear the engine ring
          We've been up and down this highway, haven't seen a goddamn thing"
          He said, "Call the doctor, I think I'm gonna crash"
          "The doctor say he's coming but you gotta pay in cash"
          They went rushing down that freeway, messed around and got lost
          They didn't care they were just dying to get off, and it was

          Life in the fast lane
          Everything all the time
          Life in the fast lane

          BlueIndependent (The Bush Presidency) "It's more of a slow coup than any real shift in the politics of the country."

          by Carbide Bit on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 10:16:05 AM PST

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  •  The human cost (3+ / 0-)
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    has been removed from this war.  There is such a significant detachment about what's going on.  Unless a local soldier dies, no one pays attention.  It's maddening.  And that's the plan all along.  Keep the war's sacrifice to only a small percentage of the population so most don't feel the loss or pain.  The mainstream media complies.

  •  Anna Nicole "speaks" to us (6+ / 0-)

    I'm not trying to suggest that the others who we might more properly mourn aren't equally (possibly more) deserving of our attention and sympathy, but that's the nature of Bush's Amerika, 2007.

    I wrote this in booman's diary from last night:

    I was thinking about it too

    (a response to a comment feeling sadness for Ms. Smith's life and death)

    And it strikes me that Anna Nicole Smith is a metaphor for western civilization in the 21st century. Instead of spending our wealth wisely and fairly on new technologies which promote clean energy, help clean-up pollution and make the quality of all lives on the planet better, we're obsessed with superficial measures of success, fighting unnecessary and unwinnable "wars" (many of which are not winnable even in a conceptual sense, as they are "wars" against tactics, wars against social conditions, wars against cultural realities--in other words, wars against enemies which are not truly enemies, and cannot be defeated), and blowing all the cash we can as fast as we can.

    To top it all off, Richard Branson just announced a $25 million prize for the first scientist to develop an approach which helps to effectively roll-back global warming. And I thought, you know, that's the kind of great idea and great use of our wealth we need. Then I remembered that David Beckham is getting $50 million A YEAR in order to look sharp, sign autographs and kick a ball around a little.

    I'm not sure that Ms. Smith deserves the comparison (though she helped promote the unflattering picture of herself), but that's where my head's at.

    In a way, Anna Nicole is "easy" to mourn. We know a great deal more about her, and we've been led to think we're in a position to judge her. So our sanctimony and sympathy come guilt free. At the same time, I suspect that the story of Anna Nicole resonates without intruding upon our consciousness, the way that the sad, tragic loss of so many good people in the name of this hideous atrocity which is a crime perpetrated upon the Iraqis, upon the world, and yes, upon the US does not. That wound is too real, too deep, too incomprehensible.

    Of course, it's easy to mourn for lost promise of someone (at least to many others) very attractive, who we knew as we know a piece of blank paper, whose choices are easily questioned. How much harder is it to mourn for those who made the greatest sacrifice in the name of selflessness, who come from modest backgrounds, who were compelled by duty, and who were tragically lied too. How much harder is it still when to do so requires facing our own (collective) guilt.

    For my money, it's easy to see why "average Janes and Joes" might find Anna Nicole more compelling. And as for the media, everybody loves a circus, don't they?

    -8.38, -4.97 "...there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." Hamlet, Act II, Scene ii.

    by thingamabob on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:27:35 AM PST

    •  Beckham. (0+ / 0-)

      Beckham is being paid that ridiculously high wage because he is going to be the savior of MLS (that is, soccer in the USA), not because he's a great player. (Perhaps he used to be -- that's not my point.)

      He's a gorgeous man, married to a former pop star who is also gorgeous, so they will generate lots of lovely publicity. People will come to the games to see him and hope to catch a glimpse of her and their three handsome sons. Ticket sales for MLS are already on the rise.

      The people who own soccer teams can't understand why the American people don't love soccer like they love football and basketball. There is money to be made, so money will be paid. To Beckham -- to save the sport...and the team owners.

      •  I am quite well aware of that (0+ / 0-)

        And, it should be said, I have attended my fair share of interesting soccer matches, dating back to when the NASL was a league with some promise, Pele, Chinaglia, Best, Kruyff et al. I support the notion of a viable league with great players.

        But the notion that there is an economic argument in favour of something which is a good in itself, despite violating plenty of other values in our society (where does the $50 million come from? Is money now growing on trees, after all? What could be done with that money, or just say, $49 million of it?) is cupidity or worse. And that's the problem with our society--not the purusit of the almighty dollar, but the notion that that pursuit is all that matters.

        -8.38, -4.97 "...there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." Hamlet, Act II, Scene ii.

        by thingamabob on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 10:33:31 AM PST

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  •  My favorite celebrity rag site, (9+ / 0-), actually had a posting that addressed this celebrity death phenomenon in a pretty interesting way. Anyone who reads the site can attest that this post was extremely introspective relative to the entertaining snark that's usually there (bolds mine)...

    Just like most people, I trashed Anna Nicole Smith left and right. I probably have said in the past that she was going to OD eventually. Yesterday morning I even said terrible things about her being a pill popper and freak. So....why am I so sad? People die everyday. People die for our country everyday. I don’t understand why it feels like a relative died? Is this wrong? I’m obviously not alone, because I’ve received hundreds of e-mails from you guys mourning Anna and several TV stations are devoting hours and hours to her. Yes, this is a tragedy...but tragedies happen every single day.

    I do feel very guilty that I feel this way over Anna Nicole Smith, but I don’t feel this way when I turn on CNN and see how many soldiers are dying in wars. I simply change the channel and move on, but Anna Nicole dies and my eyes and ears are glued to the TV and I’m scouring the internet for any piece of information I can find. Why don’t I feel this way over things that really matter?

    Indeed. What has become of us?

    Thanks Tut, Gramp, Choom Gang, and Ray for all the good times. Relentless!

    by ablington on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:27:51 AM PST

    •  Wow, that's pretty deep for dlisted (1+ / 0-)
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    •  A lot of his to do (1+ / 0-)
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      with how the media presents all people as characters in a drama. Smith was seen in the media enough that when she died, people at least knew who the media was talking about and knew something about the soap opera story of her life.

      When a soldier dies, people rarely know much about them to begin with, so it feels different. People knew something about Pat Tillman, but still not as much as they knew about A-N Smith.

      But I am reminded of something from the first Gulf War. There was a female helicopter pilot named Marie Rossi, I think, who got interviewed a lot by CNN from Iraq. I remember seeing enough of her that there was a sense of familiarity. Then it was announced that she had been killed when her helicopter crashed. That death affected me more than any others because I knew something about her before she had died. And I still remember it, as a result.

  •  The lives of these heroes are just numbers to the (0+ / 0-)

    MSM and to the administration.  No people, not spirits, not sons, not daughters, not wives and mothers and husbands and fathers, lost forever to those who loved them.

    The media is interested only in ratings and product sales. They won't devote five minutes to a dead American hero, because that doesn't sing to the sponsors.

    Pathetic. Immoral.

    The MSM is becoming irrelevant so fast, they will only realize it when they have no audience left.

  •  50,000 Cubic Feet of Graves nt (1+ / 0-)
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    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:37:23 AM PST

  •  If Anna Nicole Smith had died... (3+ / 0-)

    ...fighting in Baghdad it wouldn't even make the news.

    (news director)  "What?  Come on, give me something INTERESTING!"

    It's good for your enemies to think you're a little crazy. As long as you can back it up.

    by dov12348 on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:40:14 AM PST

  •  Meanwhile ... (0+ / 0-)

    Iran is meddling in Iraq, Gates says.

    Offering no concrete evidence ... sound familiar?

    As IF We Aren't "meddling" in Iraq .... We Are Fucking OCCUPYING it!


    Iraq is a Republican War.

    by Kdoug on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:41:07 AM PST

  •  3800 (1+ / 0-)
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    Even the 3115 figure is an undercount given the large number of contractors and other American personnel who also have been killed in the war. I've been looking around for a figure that counts them but haven't found an authoritative source.

    This site gives names of 387 of those killed but labels it a "partial list".

    A WaPo article in December of 2006,Census Counts 100,000 Contractors in Iraq, puts the number at 650.

    About 650 contractors have died in Iraq since 2003, according to Labor Department statistics.

    That puts near 3,800 the number of Americans killed in the Iraq War. I'd like to see that number become the reported figure instead of the administration friendly undercount that ignores the deaths of contractors and other non U.S. Military personnel.

  •  Iconic Ironic (1+ / 0-)
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    I was watching a CNN pipeline live feed of the Senate hearing on Iraq intel, including the IG report on the OSP, which launched the US into this mess on manipulated intel... the stream ended.

    When I returned to the application - Anna-fest continued taking up 3 of 4 channels: 1) the paternity suit NC, 1) awaiting the Smith autopsy report NC, a 3) a hearing on pharmaceutical drug abuse (?), and no relief as on 4) a live view of the White House.

    Let's hope we can refocus the media on their job of reporting the news sometime soon. Today would be good enough, anything else disregards the critical position our service men and women now find themselves.

    "What's in the name of lord [governor], that I should fear; To bring my grievance to the public ear?" - The Crisis, January 13, 1777

    by TPaine on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:42:54 AM PST

  •  A profound and (0+ / 0-)

    abjectly sad juxtaposition...your perspicacious and heart breaking exposure of the hypocritical cult of personality, which is simply another product to sell, versus what should be the collective national shame of this war and the collective national grief at the loss of these unique and beautiful lives is both incisive and haunting...thank you.

  •  I think that a "certain" columnist "nailed" (1+ / 0-)
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    the kind of people we have in the Senate - on BOTH sides of "the aisle"

    "When it came to doing something serious about the surge, the Senate ducked. It unanimously (81-0) approved sending Gen. David H. Petraeus to Baghdad to do the surge -- precisely what a majority of the senators said they did not want done.

    If you really oppose the surge, how could you not oppose the appointment of the man whose very mission is to carry it out? Yet not one senator did so. Instead, they spent days fine-tuning the wording of a nonbinding, i.e. entirely toothless, expression of disapproval.

    A serious legislative body would not be arguing over degrees of disapproval anyway, but about the elements of three or four alternate plans that might actually change our course in Iraq, something they all say they desire. But instead of making a contribution to thinking through how the war should be either prosecuted or liquidated, they negotiate language that provides precisely the amount of distancing a senator might need as political insulation should the surge either succeed or fail."

  •  Eric Fair's words remind me of Vladimir Bukovsky (1+ / 0-)
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    Torture's Long Shadow

    On the lasting emotional scars of the interrogators:

    Today, when the White House lawyers seem preoccupied with contriving a way to stem the flow of possible lawsuits from former detainees, I strongly recommend that they think about another flood of suits, from the men and women in your armed services or the CIA agents who have been or will be engaged in CID practices. Our rich experience in Russia has shown that many will become alcoholics or drug addicts, violent criminals or, at the very least, despotic and abusive fathers and mothers.

    If America's leaders want to hunt terrorists while transforming dictatorships into democracies, they must recognize that torture, which includes CID, has historically been an instrument of oppression -- not an instrument of investigation or of intelligence gathering. No country needs to invent how to "legalize" torture; the problem is rather how to stop it from happening. If it isn't stopped, torture will destroy your nation's important strategy to develop democracy in the Middle East. And if you cynically outsource torture to contractors and foreign agents, how can you possibly be surprised if an 18-year-old in the Middle East casts a jaundiced eye toward your reform efforts there?

  •  actually (2+ / 0-)
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    There are probably over 600,000 holes if you count Iraqis.  They don't, we do, we're better than they are.

  •  Thanks for bringing things into perspective (0+ / 0-)


    If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison, fourth US president (1751-1836)

    by crkrjx on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:47:47 AM PST

  •  If CNN sandwiches one more meaningless (1+ / 0-)
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    Iraq war story between Anna Nicole and Astronaut Diaper Love Triangle, I'm going to scream!

    The MSM is long-since lost.  I'm not sure exactly when the de-evolution began,(perhaps well before the white Bronco but that's certainly a landmark) but we're in the thick of it.  Best to just ride the scree and get real news elsewhere (as I'm sure we all do).

    "War is a poor chisel to carve out tomorrow." - Martin Luther King Jr.

    by Wayneman on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:50:44 AM PST

    •  the white bronco and the Monica (1+ / 0-)
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      The OJ thing seemed to kick into high gear..the merging of celebrity gossip and tabloid news with TV news.

      And then Monica and Clinton's sexual liasion seem to really kick off the merger of TV political news with celebrity gossip and sexual juicy details..

      Ugh, Blech,  Shit....!!!!!!!!! It is just awful what passes as news. I heard Edward R. Murrow rolled over in his grave so much, there was an earthquake.

      Non Binding is only Good for Undergarments, not for Senate Resolutions.

      by wishingwell on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 10:01:05 AM PST

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    •  24 hour cable news (1+ / 0-)
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      is a big part of the problem. In theory you'd think that more time for news means more news and better coverage.

      But because it's TV news and depends so heavily on pictures, it tends to focus on anything that has pictures, especially live 'breaking' feeds of stories that are ultimately trivial but can be sensationalized because of their immediacy and scoop nature.

      In the end, it's just television and not news. At times I can barely distinguish it from Survivor.

  •  Anna Fest is about the billionaire! (1+ / 0-)
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    Who gets that baby, gets the money

    by aaraujo on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:52:32 AM PST

  •  Please add about 800 deaths of those who work for (1+ / 0-)
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    private contractors.  I don't especially like these contractors, but I also don't like the deaths of the people they hire, especially when the contractors are making a profit on each and every one.  There's something wrong with this scenario, especially when the contractors refuse to tell the public what their profit/cost ratio is.  

    •  Number of Private Contractors killed in Iraq? (0+ / 0-)

      I'm sure that 800 is a low estimate.  I'd like to see Private Contractor (aka Mercenaries) deaths included in the overall military death toll.  I found a Guardian article from last October that put the death toll at 827, and they admitted that it was probably an underestimation.

      My dream ticket in 2008? John Edwards-Kathleen Sebelius

      by KansasLiberal on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 10:38:28 AM PST

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  •  Think Progress has a good summary (0+ / 0-)

    of how bad things are on the coverage. But the highlight is Jack Cafferty at the end of the video-watch it.


  •  Hey! Let's have a party! (0+ / 0-)

    Stop talking about gloomy things! Here's a celebrity story that's just what you need to perk you up. Look, it has a blond woman, sex, scandal, drinking, drugs... what more could you possibly ask for?

    Now for god's sake stop trying to mess up my day with reality.

  •  I wrote every media outlet in protest (0+ / 0-)

    about the coverage for this "celebrity". It is disgusting and I am mad as hell and refuse to watch today. Thank you for your thoughtful post.  

  •  Money can't buy love anywhere, including Iraq. (0+ / 0-)

    Some people confuse the love of money with the person who happens to have it.  Maybe money can buy you a measure of false "respect," but watch your back if you're the person on the receiving end.  People and nations with a lot of money are magnets for this scenario.

  •  Remember, too... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...that 2-3 US soldiers are under a death sentence right now as I type this. None of us know who they are, they themselves do not know, nor do their commanders.

    Maybe right now they're eating at the Pizza Hut in the Green Zone, or writing letters home to family, or playing X-Box on the new machine their barracks just got.

    We don't know who they are, the soldiers involved don't know who they are or that they are under a death sentence, but one thing is certain, they will be dead and in body bags by this time Sunday.

    Then, the cycle will repeat itself again and again. There are hundreds of walking ghosts in Iraq right now who don't even know it.

    And for what?

    The Dems need to end this now.

  •  Will Anna-Nicole lie is state? (1+ / 0-)
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    In the Capitol Rotunda?

    Seems like she should, with all the media attention.

    American media are such bottom-feeders.

    What an embarrassment our press has become.

    "Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." - Oscar Wilde

    by greendem on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 10:10:33 AM PST

  •  Amen, mcjoan (0+ / 0-)


    I love America more than any other country in the world and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually. -- James Baldwin

    by zdefender on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 10:13:57 AM PST

  •  Fuck George W. Bush (1+ / 0-)
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    Dick Cheney, the neo-cons, and all the GOP butt-lickers that support this psychotic man-child.

    What a damn waste of lives.

    There is no reality, only perception.

    by sizzzzlerz on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 10:15:54 AM PST

  •  While I completely agree (0+ / 0-)

    with your sentiment, I must say that I, even as an uber political junkie, am completely enthrolled by Anna Nicole's death.  To be honest, its a little frightening!

  •  Tune out the media and tune in to your music. (0+ / 0-)

    It's much cheaper and healthier than a psychiatrist, something we might need after prolonged contact with the tube.  I did this today.  I can take only so much of CNN, MSNBC, CBS, and even C-Span, etc., etc., etc.

  •  wow (1+ / 0-)
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    call me crazy and take my tinfoil hat away...

    check out the juxtaposition of these "stories" on CNN headline news "Top Stories":

    Your e-mails: Anna Nicole charmed us | I-Report

    Gates: U.S. has evidence of Iran aiding Iraq fighters

    Pentagon report: Prewar intelligence manipulated

  •  I said it in another post and I'll say it here... (0+ / 0-)

    This planet and our country will lose as much with her passing as they gained with her discovery; zero, nothing, nada, zip, zilch, etc.

    However, the details of the Iraq war & who is responsible should glean as much detailed reporting as what is being invested into reporting Smith's death. What a shame that the media has become so lazy.

  •  The longer something goes on the less you hear. (0+ / 0-)

    Look at the drug war. It would be a miracle if they posted any injustices about it on the news everynight. They go on daily without review. 35 years has made this a dead subject.

    The First Casualty In War Is The Truth.

    by Olivebranch on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 10:45:47 AM PST

  •  The worst thing about all this (0+ / 0-)

    -- and I include the apparently deranged astronaut story in this -- is that these stories will drag on for months as various court cases drag their way through the system.  Not only does this kind of garbage crowd out important news about Iraq, it will crowd out the various presidential candidates trying to get their messages out.  The Feith IG report story has already lost most of its impact.  It should have been a bombshell, but now it's a footnote to the all ANS all the time coverage we're seeing.  Ed Murrow must be spinning in his grave.

    Bush 41 to 43: "See, Son, your problem in Iraq is the same one I had with your mother: neither one of us pulled out in time."

    by mattinla on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 10:46:10 AM PST

  •  What a complete fucking waste (1+ / 0-)
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    They died for NOTHING. NOTHING.
    They did not die for you.
    They did not die for me.
    They did not die for Iraqis.
    They did not die for liberty.
    They did not die for freedom.
    They died for N-O-T-H-I-N-G.
    Just think about what these young people could have done, could have become and it brings home the senseless tragedy that is going on over there. What a fucking waste of humanity.

    "Keep raisin' hell!" - Molly Ivins

    by MA Liberal on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 10:59:05 AM PST

    •  Which is... (0+ / 0-)

      ...what pisses me off that the SCLM focuses SO. F---ing. Much. On the Cult of Celebrity.

      (on another note, I saw the title and thought "I read the news today, oh boy. Four thousand holes in Blackford, Lancashire...." :) )

      "Future archaeologists will be able to identify a `[Windows] Vista Upgrade Layer' when they go through our landfill sites." - from the UK Green Party

      by Ari Mistral on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 07:14:14 PM PST

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  •  I didn't know Anna Nicole Smith (0+ / 0-)

    but my condolences to her loved ones.  But somehow people relate to celebreties they'll never come within 1000 miles of much more than the real people who sacrifice and do incredible things every day that probably come from next door, or down the street.  The people who clean the building I work in work harder and contribute more to society than 100's of any famous Simpson (that's you too, OJ (but not Homer)).  What kind of species are we?

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it - Aristotle

    by gatorcog on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 11:17:01 AM PST

  •  Paul Rieckhoff piece on Huffington Post (0+ / 0-)

    The veterans are telling it like it is.

    Scathing piece, and a call for us to contact the media and demand that they knock it off with this wall2wall coverage:

    I can't stand it anymore. For the last two days, on every cable news network, it has been non stop coverage of the death of Anna Nicole Smith. Look, I am sorry she is dead. And my heart goes out to her family. Really it does. But this is not a major news story.
    Not even close.

    As a veteran of this war in Iraq, I beg all Americans to please keep things in perspective while the networks fill you with images of a buxom blond celebrity who was only famous for being famous.

    CNN, Fox and MSNBC are all guilty of it. MSNBC (which was really getting better for a while) has been the worst. Yesterday afternoon, while a war raged in Iraq, Hammas met with Fatah in Mecca, and a House investigation into botched Iraq reconstruction efforts continued on Capitol Hill, MSNBC gave us over three straight hours of almost entirely uninterrupted coverage of the death of the spokesperson for TRIMSPA. The coverage of Smith's death has rivaled that of former President Ford's.

    He ends it with this request:

    You want to really support the troops? Tell the media to pay attention to the war they are fighting and dying in! Call the networks and complain, write letters to the producers, and change the damn channel.

    Can someone please diary this???

    I've already used up my diary for the day (of all days) and think we could really lend Paul a hand here in getting everyone on the phone to tell them to Cut. It. Out.

  •  Anything-But-Reality TV (0+ / 0-)

    Anna Nichole Smith was (and still is) a perfect example of how the American media has evolved into a machine that serves to distract the public from what's really going on.

    Constant wars for profit and the ecological rape of the planet are pulling our species towards a deadly cul de sac. If we don't fix our act soon, humanity will face a major crash in numbers, and many more species will face extinction.

    Rather than helping us focus on these problems and move to alleviate them, our media seeks to draw our attention away with big boobs, roaring Hummers and noisy explosions.


    by jimbo92107 on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 11:43:54 AM PST

  •  There needs to be a shift for bad intel to fabric (0+ / 0-)

    There needs to be a shift from this idea that the war was based on bad intelligence or faulty intelligence and instead towards  fabricated intelligence.  Obviously fabricated intelligence is both bad and faulty (again word parsing this administration will gladly live with if you let them), but bad and faulty intelligence isn't necessarily fabricated.  Bad intelligence isn't illegal, but fabricated, assuming it leads us into an illegal war (legal until Congress decides to admit that they were wrong and declare it illegal I guess - pending court martial involved with this idea that I'm sure everyone has heard about), should be illegal and I think is illegal if you take it to the next level.  If a war is based on fabrications then it becomes an unjustified war and retroactively illegal and therefore the killing that results is murder.  Murders that are not the responsibility of soldiers ordered into combat but are the responsibilities of those that collaborated knowingly into misleading Congress into support of the war.  Proving that will be difficult when so many are against the notion of entertaining such horrible thoughts.  Of course no one will ever want to admit to that because once you start talking about murder then the "right" will start saying you are calling soldiers murderers and then all hell breaks loose.  Thats where politics comes into play and all the games involved in that little world.  Games that get people killed.  Somehow the right steps have ot be taken to get us into the realm of taking these people on while avoiding the pitfalls that might have Democrats lose power again and the cover up resume.

    Fabrication of intelligence is cherry picking only those items that suit your interests or when they order soldiers in the Pentagon that have a loss of pension hanging over their heads to rewrite reports to meet desired output (an article on brought this up years ago - and Ive lost track of the article unfortunately-  and yet I've heard no testimony in Congress on it.  Testimony that would be the only way for it to come out because soldiers are hard pressed to come forward).  Congress needs to put the word out asking for people to come forward.  Not simply wait for it it be handed to them.

    Truth doesn't contain A, B, or C. It doesn't contain D I S N E or Y either.

    by jrflorida on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 11:50:16 AM PST

  •  My thoughts? (0+ / 0-)

    She's hanging out with Elvis and Ken Lay in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. :p

    "Future archaeologists will be able to identify a `[Windows] Vista Upgrade Layer' when they go through our landfill sites." - from the UK Green Party

    by Ari Mistral on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 07:15:15 PM PST

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