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I was bored one day last week and emailed MSNBC my thoughts of some "dream shows" I have for their network.  You could also say I wasn't pleased with their 24 hour, all Anna Nicole, all the time news coverage, to say the least.  It's that displeasure that really got me thinking about my fantasy shows.  It's that same frustration which is forcing me to write this diary!!  

I've included the list from that letter as it got me thinking it might make a good diary on it's own.  

Well anyway, CNN used to be my choice for news until I started watching Keith Olbermann on Countdown.  He and he alone is why I gave MSNBC a shot.

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My TV is on all day long and now that I don't watch ABC daytime (given up when I gave up watching ABC after the 9/11 movie fiasco) I would have normally had CNN on in the background instead, not any more.  MSNBC can thank Keith for that.

To be honest though, their daytime news coverage leaves MUCH to be desired.  I can't be the only one's who thinks this (or this diary really makes me look batty).  I choose to believe the former!  Let me live that even if you disagree, please!  ;-)

Anyway, I have to turn off MSNBC at various times during the day (is Anna Nicole still dead?) or like when Tucker or Hardball starts.  It's an automatic reflex now grabbing the remote and changing to Ellen (at 4pm EST in NYC).

Let's start with why I think some changes are in order with MSNBC :

Tucker Carlson .  Carlsonis a putz.  I refuse to watch him.  He’s vile.  MSNBC should dump this twit of all twits - the Rona Barrett of conservatives.  They'd really cement their legitimacy in my mind if they just made that only move.  Get rid of him!  There has to be another Republican (a real Republican, not the version we see now in Congress) to turn to for a full one hour show, no?  Not some whiny little girl who calls people nasty names and considers that reporting.  He’s a blithering coward.

Chris Matthews - At this point Chris Matthews does the best Chris Matthews impersonation.  He's a caricature all unto himself, of himself.  I rarely, if ever watched Hardball.  I had to stop completely after I tried too again the other night, but couldn’t for more than a minute.  He's got some bug up his ass about Hillary Clinton and while I'm no fan of her (even though she is my Senator), he's disgusting when it comes to her (and women in general).  If there was ever anyone who's picture could be used in the dictionary next the the phrase politically incorrect, it's Chris Matthews.

Charlie's Angels - That's what I call the three main daytime anchors (Chris Jansing, Alex Witt & Contessa Brewer).  They spend more time cackling about entertainment foibles, dishing about what politicians are wearing and saying about each other (and joining in when political pundits inevitably become nasty about them as well) as if this was "The Gossip Network" – as opposed to a real news network, with real world consequences.

This isn't a high school lunch room where the cheerleaders get to gossip and rip to shreds the smarter, less shallow kids who don't know how to dress or do back-flips.  It's fucking a NEWS CHANNEL.   Regular guest, Brad Blakeman isn't a story, an expert or an intellect.  He's a vindictive hack with nothing to offer ANY story.  He the closeted gay friend to the mean-spirited hosts that riles them up with his bitchiness and catty rhetoric.  They should be treating scum like him with suspicion, not awe and should be shocked, not tickled when he answers a serious question with one of his racist, homophobic, chauvinistic and self loathing comments.

There’s nothing wrong with fluff by the way, but not mixed into the news.  I feel like it gives the illusion that the fluff is on the same level of importance as hard news.  It’s not.  I wish they’d just read the damn prompter, stop editorializing or making snide comments about the stories they’re reporting on and start focusing on being anchors, as opposed to hosts.  It’s really hard to watch a lot of the times.  

Norah O'Donnell - Gag. Puke. Who is her stylist?  Duran Duran?  (I know, I just pulled a Brad Blakeman.  Sue me.)  Besides the fact that her wardrobe and make up are circa 1984, she's horrendous as a host!  She's more Entertainment Tonight than hard news.  I wish someone would pull her aside (with a glob of Ponds Cream), slap her across her face (the ponds should dull the blow) and shut her up (on her un-inspired, un-invited commentary at least).  She's fine if she sticks to reading the prompter, but for God's sake, keep her from straying off!  She has this uncanny ability to report the most horrendous news with this wide-eyd, over painted smirk.  It's so not right.

Before anyone points it out to me, yes I've noticed that I don't like any of the prom queens on MSNBC daytime.  It's not that they don't have something to offer, but either they need to do a full hour of fluff or a full hour of real news.  They don't, they can't switch back and forth. It's frighteningly surreal and definitively off-putting.  They're hosts, not anchors.  And, it shows.

**Joe Scarborough - Technically, he shouldn't be on this list but, he didn't fit at all anywhere else!  I don’t particularly like him or dislike him.  I just don't like to watch Scarborough Country (much), but I will say this:  When he’s not taking pot shots at peoples looks (his obsession with Rosie O'Donnell is just weird); when he is dealing with real up-to-the-minute news issues, focusing solely on a crisis or something, he’s actually pretty good.  

The way he’s taken on the attacks on NBC and MSNBC by FOX & O’Reilly has been something for him to be proud of.  How he honestly talks about the failure that is Iraq (finally), despite how much it’s bothering him to do so, is admirable. Now if only he stopped using the same right-wing sources as Bill O does for his talking points, "inside" news sources and newsletters, perhaps he’d see the real story of issues he often knows so little about.    But, I can live with him.

Here are the shows I'd like to actually see on the air:

  1.     "MSNBC Daily News" (at 12 pm, 5 pm & 10 pm) – Straight news, NO FLUFF, from around the country and the world. With Reporters reporting the news and anchors reading it. No opinion, no sarcasm.  Just Reporting.
  1.      "The Congressional Report" -  A Daily show dedicated to reviewing EXACTLY what congress is working on at the moment, who the players are – what the bills and debates are about (specifically) – the pros & cons and who is helping or hurting the legislation’s chance and who’s really pushing it and why.  A civics lesson on the move, as it’s happening – with not just pundits, but civics and legal experts explaining why it matters.  David Shuster should have his own show.  (Hint Hint).
  1.      "Outside the Beltway" or "Real America" – What WE THE PEOPLE are thinking about real world issues.  Enough of the inside the beltway punditry and propaganda.  A show that looks at different cities or states or even towns that are coming up with real solutions the real problems that everyday Americans are faced with.
  1.     "Media Matters" hosted by Keith Olbermann – It’s exactly what it sounds like. A show dedicated to pointing out the lies and misleading information – whether from other media itself, the hate mongers of talk radio or in corporate spin.  http://mediamatters.org/...  
  1.     "Today ReDux" – The Today Show is 3 hours long (possibly going to 4).  There has to be and hours worth of stuff from the morning show that can be made into a compilation show for your MSNBC viewers.  Not everyone watches the Today Show, for many different reasons, but a 1 hour version might really work on MSNBC, editing the crap out.  This show is almost a free be in terms of cost!  Liken it to HBO repeating the same episode 10 times a week at various time of the day.  There are plenty of people who would watch "Today" if it were on later or was shorter or was more focused.  This is a way to do it.
  1.     "Blog This!"  - A show DEDICATED to what is really going on in the online and grassroots communities.  NOT THE RUMORS or the hate speech stuff, THE REAL, INDEPTH researching that is being done by some of the best and brightest, right and left.  A daily recap of the biggest issues being tackled on the political, military, technology, entertainment & international blogs, etc.
  1.     "Hardball" with ??? - Keep that show and dump the host.  Chris Matthews is a pig.  The truth is the CONCEPT of "Hardball" is great, but he’s not "hard" he’s a jackass.  A classless, chauvinistic, throwback to the 1970s whose time has long since past.  Despite the fact that he’s so anti-war, I still can’t watch him.  I stopped a few ago.
  1.     "Foreign Relations" – If this country is to survive, let alone thrive, we must start taking into account what the rest world thinks about us and how our actions affect others.  It’s time to start seeing what the rest of the world looks like.  
  1.     "The Most"- Keep it as is - I truly enjoy it.  It succeeds as a pop culture show.  

As, I've mentioned, I switched from CNN to MSNBC for one reason and one reason only:  Keith Olbermann & "Countdown."  

NBC probably has the best news divisions of all four major networks and there is no reason why MSNBC shouldn’t be equal too, if not better than CNN when it comes to 24 hour news.  Unfortunately, a lot of their daytime "hard news" schedule leaves much to be desired (in substance & talent).  

And, for added measure, here's my list of fantasy hires:

 (1)    David Gregory - This guy knows his stuff.  He's make the perfect replacement for Tim Russert on Meet the Press (now that we all know he's be compromised).  I stopped watching soon after the election when it became apparent that Holy Joe Lieberman and Non-maverick John McCain were going to be regular voices used repeatedly rammed down our throats as bi-partisan representatives of the Congress.  (I actually gagged while typing that).

(2)    David Shuster - David should have his own show.  He's brilliant not just in his research and reporting, but in his delivery.  He's succinct and hard hitting on subkect that others would mangle while trying to explain to middle America (The Libby Trial comes to mind).  Not David. And his turning down a job from FOX shows he's got backbone, courage and integrity.  Whether David is a Democrat or Republican, I don't care.  The fact I can't really tell is another reason I like him.  He asks the questions that the MSM is supposed to be asked - and he's not afraid to ask them.

(2)    Terry Moran - Yeah, yeah. I know. But before you all go crazy, he is a good news guys despite his leanings of late and could easily be a valid "right leaning" host to replace F*&*%er Carlson.  He's completely professional and not to bad on the eyes.  ;-)  (Okay, so maybe my judgment is clouded for that reason, which I'm sure some of you out there will gladly point out in detail.)  However, ditto (for me) on asking the questions that need to be asked.  Like David Gregory, I think Terry does that.  Maybe I'm wrong (I'm sure someone will point out why)  ;-)

(3)    Christiane Amanpour  - Someone pointed out in my Keith Olbermann diary yesterday, that they would love to see MSNBC steal "Christiane Amanpour from CNN ASAP and make her the anchor".  I couldn't agree more.  

(4)    Bill Hemmer - Even though he recently moved from CNN to FOX, he's a real news guys, he can't possibly be happy at FOX.  He'd make a great host.  One of CNN's biggest mistakes was firing him.  The big one of FOX's, is being FOX.  STEAL HIM AWAY FROM FOX!!!!

And, last but not least.... drum roll please...

(5)    Bill Maher - Do I really need to go into why?  (see: Real Time with Bill Maher returning TONIGHT with all new and live episodes on HBO)!    

So, give a shout out to to MSNBC & NBC with your thoughts on their news coverage, their host, hostesses & flight attendants (I know another cheap sexist shot) - along with the types of shows you'd like to see them to air and who knows, maybe someone's actually listening!  It's the only way things change!

feedback@msnbc.com; letters@msnbc.com; viewerservices@msnbc.com; Nightly@nbc.com; feedback@nbcuni.com; emailnews@wnbc.com

And, don't forget to tell us about them in the comments below!

If you have other email address you think should be on this list, let me know & I'll add them (NBC President, etc).

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Originally posted to Junglered1 on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 06:31 AM PST.

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  •  If only... (tips} (12+ / 0-)

    I promised my family they won't see me dragged from my home by men in black, dangling off ropes from helicopters.

    by Junglered1 on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 06:33:52 AM PST

  •  MSNBC (4+ / 0-)
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    catchawave, josephk, Dallasdoc, Junglered1

    Cool diary. They are the only cable news channel I can stomach anymore, except Tucker, I would rather have been ANS's love slave than watch him. And Contessa  Brewer just needs to have her mouth stapled shut.

    P.S. You do have a lot of time on your hands. Want to come over and clean my apartment?  

    Opening Day - April 1, 2007

    by MikeBaseball on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 06:41:33 AM PST

    •  Clean your apt!! LOL! That was hysterical! (2+ / 0-)
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      catchawave, Dallasdoc

      I needed that laugh.  Thank you.  So how big is your apt?  ;-O

      I promised my family they won't see me dragged from my home by men in black, dangling off ropes from helicopters.

      by Junglered1 on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 06:45:51 AM PST

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    •  Tucker The Motherfucker (3+ / 0-)

      MSNBC apparently has NO idea how bad he is -- for their network

      simply put -- if people want to watch RightWing stupidity -- they are already watching FauxNews ... and they aren't likely to flip in just to watch him ...

      the Real Problem for MSNBC keeping Tucker the MotherFucker (at least in his current slot --) is that he is a horrible 'lead in' ...

      i watch KO consistently; and Hardball very sporadically; so, basically, they have me for 1 hour.  If they put on a decent show (and NOT another fucking Rethuglican ... put on a good Liberal damnit) ... my watching (and after reviewing the numbers on TVNewser) would go consistently from 1 to 3 hours -- i could put up with Matthews as background noise while fixing dinner anyway!

      So, not only is Tucker the MotherFucker doing damage to the quality of discourse, he is, imo, hurting MSNBC's bottomline ...

  •  Did you by chance say Kelly instead of Norah? (1+ / 0-)
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    I actually respect Kelly O'Donnell a little, but when it comes to the 'cheerleader' metaphor you used, Noron is the one I think you mean.  By the way, I actually like Contessa and Chris, though I totally agree that there's too much fluff and not enough news.  Plus, when they "moderate" a debate, they never pull the leash....this would be a good Bill Maher post.

    Good list, I'm on board for the most part and agree 100% regarding your choices.  If MSNBC were somehow able to steal Amanpoire and Hemmer, they'd take the top spot in a heartbeat.

    Proud to be a Red County, Texas Democrat!

    by Webslinger on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 07:12:49 AM PST

  •  I have to go out for a bit, but will answer any (0+ / 0-)

    questions as soon as I get back.  ;-)

    I promised my family they won't see me dragged from my home by men in black, dangling off ropes from helicopters.

    by Junglered1 on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 07:18:10 AM PST

  •  Great diary....MSNBC is my daily (0+ / 0-)

    background noise too!

    I agree with all you said, except for Matthews, annoying I know, but nobody tops him for political passion and information.

    Tucker MUST GO....too mean spirited, he's a better fit for Fox.  Replace him with Aaron Brown or Ron Reagan!  

    Love Bill Hemmer and Shepherd Smith from the "other" networks. Steal them now!  

    I get all the "newsbunnies" confused too....just DON'T give Monica Crowley (? I think that's the one that ruined that noontime show with Reagan?) another show.

    Fun ideas....you should send this diary w/comments to Danny :)

  •  Great line up (4+ / 0-)

    There needs to be a REAL 24 hour news channel and this would pretty much provide it. The next two years are going to be so interesting and important. More and more people would turn to a channel which consistently provided political analysis and commentary without the confrontation. Let the nut jobs watch Fox. They will anyway. Provide a clear alternative without all those crime shows now on MSNBC which fill so much time.

    I don't think you have too much time on your hands. I think you should analyze the media more!

  •  Good stuff (1+ / 0-)
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    These are really good ideas.  Jeez, you should be programming director at MSNBC.

    On Matthews. You nailed it.  Not Hardball. More like Power Worship. He's got a thing for Guilianni (did I spell that right?) I think it goes back to his brother's campaign in PA. Apparently, the brother told Chris that Rudy would be the next President, and since then Chris has been doing everything he can to make it happen.

    Oh yeah -- your description of Norah is priceless.

    I gave you recommend for an entertaining diary.

  •  Advising MSNBC (3+ / 0-)
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    Once upon a time, Chris Matthews came to Harvard with his wife, then anchor of NBC Washington DC affiliate, and spoke about media.  He was asked by the moderator what changes he'd make in the MSNBC line up to make it more competitive.  This was just after Donahue had been kicked to the curb.  Matthews allowed as how liberals don't make it in cable and spent about five minutes explaining his line-up - conservative, semi-conservative, conservative vs weak liberal...

    I got to ask him a question and told him that he and his wife had talked about the audience as consumers and that I wasn't a consumer.  I was a citizen.  Then I asked him what changes he'd make in MSNBC to make an informed citizenry.

    Matthews drew himself up in his seat and got indignant.  He said, "I'm not going to answer such a goo-goo question."

    A few months later, Rick Kaplan was named as head of MSNBC and came to the Shorenstein Center at Harvard to talk about media.  Kaplan said he'd gathered his team of "talent" together and told them his goal was to produce a channel to inform citizens.  

    I smiled when I heard that but didn't tell Kaplan how Matthews had reacted when I suggested the same thing.

    In person, Matthews gave off a miasma of money sweat.  He was simply dripping with anxiety.  Odd since it was at the time when he had one book on the bestseller lists and another climbing the charts, a TV show, and a wife who was a local anchor.  

    Solar is civil defense. Video of my small scale solar experiments at http://solarray.blogspot.com/2006/03/solar-video.html

    by gmoke on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 08:37:13 PM PST

    •  GREAT story! Thanks for that. (0+ / 0-)

      It's probably because he didn't understand what the word citizen meant.  You confused him!

      I promised my family they won't see me dragged from my home by men in black, dangling off ropes from helicopters.

      by Junglered1 on Sun Feb 18, 2007 at 03:34:32 PM PST

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  •  This is a great lineup (0+ / 0-)

    I particularly like an hour show every day dedicted only to Congress and what they're up to, why it's important, etc. If it was done without screaming right/"left" pundits, it would be perhaps the best hour of news on the air.

    And I agree with your hires, except...Hemmer? Bill Hemmer? A serious news guy? Remember, he quit CNN rather than leave the anchor desk and go on a White House beat. He's now a morning blowdryhead on Fox, which is the right network and timeslot for his talents.

  •  My idea (1+ / 0-)
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    was to lure Aaron Brown out of the classroom and give him a "Larry King" style show, but without King's celebrity fluff, and also taking calls from the viewership.

    Tucker wasn't too bad when he had a regular liberal "foil" like Rachel Maddow to call him out on his BS -- maybe have one on with him every day, a la the old "Point/Counterpoint" from 60 Minutes.

    I'd like to see a lot more standardization in the schedule -- instead of Tucker/Hardball/Tucker/Hardball then going into the rest of the primetime lineup (with that schedule most of the Left Coast misses those two shows -- yeah, no big loss except when Tweety has the rare Democrat guest), why not have a couple of those shows on during the Left Coast primetime, instead of those trashy prison "documentaries"?

    Here's my dream lineup (I'm using Pacific times here because that's where I am -- deal with it):

    6am - 9am Morning News Block
    9am - 10am "The Most"
    10am - 1pm Midmorning news block
    1pm - 2pm "Business Report" (something like Lou Dobbs but without the xenophobia)
    2pm - 3pm Repeat of "The Most"
    3pm - 4pm "The Fence"; new show featuring Tucker and a liberal co-host discussing the issues of the day (as in "both sides of the fence")
    4pm - 5pm "Hardball"
    5pm - 6pm "Countdown"
    6pm - 7pm "In Depth with Aaron Brown" (another new show); Larry King-style interview show including viewer participation (via phone and email)
    7pm - 8pm Repeat of "The Fence"
    8pm - 9pm Repeat of "Hardball"
    9pm - 10pm Repeat of "Countdown"
    10pm - 11pm Repeat of "In Depth"
    11pm - 1am The documentary crap they're now showing in prime time
    1am - 3am Early news block, with "Business Preview" segments discussing economy and stock trends
    3am - 6am Imus (hell, keep him around for his dozen fans)

    I'd keep the weekend lineup pretty much the same, but I'd add some "Best of" shows featuring some of the highlights of the past week's shows (especially if Keith or Tweety do any top-notch interviews, like when Keith interviewed Bill Clinton) as a way to attract new viewers.

    •  Two things I disagree with... but YOU REALLY DID (0+ / 0-)

      a great job thinking this trhough.  My kind of gal/guy!

      So, NO TUCKER. NO TUCKER. NO TUCKER.  If I thought I could get away with it, I'd....  (kidding of course for the NSA agent  listening right now).

      And to many repeats.  There is SO much real news out there there is NO reason no to fill the daytime/primetime hours with NEW programming.  from Midnight to 5am, fine.

      :-)

      I'll give you and A+ for effort and an B+ for content (Tucker really took off much of that)!  [wink wink]

      I promised my family they won't see me dragged from my home by men in black, dangling off ropes from helicopters.

      by Junglered1 on Sun Feb 18, 2007 at 12:44:06 PM PST

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  •  Disagree on The Most (0+ / 0-)

    I have to turn it off.  I find Allison Stewart's style (isn't that her name?) the most annoying of anyone on the network.  She tries to be another Keith and fails miserably.

    Carrie French, age 19, died in Iraq on June 5, 2005. Why?

    by Susan S on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 11:58:18 PM PST

    •  Actually, I was trying to look at it as fluff (0+ / 0-)

      and not be so critical in that realm.  I don't usually watch because of basically the same thing you just described.  But as fluff, it's fine. It's not trying to be anything more. Thanks for you comments!

      I promised my family they won't see me dragged from my home by men in black, dangling off ropes from helicopters.

      by Junglered1 on Sun Feb 18, 2007 at 12:32:56 PM PST

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  •  Penn & Teller (1+ / 0-)
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    "Political Bullshit"

    "Dr. Hey-you!"
    A time traveler interviews the founders and heroes of America and have them explain why American Government is dysfunctional. Dr. Who meets Borat! Starring Oliver Stone with the Baldwin and Arquette families as guests.

    "Monday Night Kickball"
    11 Progressives captained by Arianna Hufington with Keith Olbermann a quarterback against Bill O'Reilly's handpicked squad with Snn Coulter at outside linebacker. Referees provided by the Worldwide Wrestling Federation. Personal fouls awarded 10 yards and a first down. Music by Hank Williams Jr. and Neil Young.

    I'm a linguist, licensed to use words any way I want to!

    by MakeChessNotWar on Sat Feb 17, 2007 at 12:22:30 AM PST

  •  WOW! Are you rich? (0+ / 0-)

    If not, then you should be.  I could visualize the whole concept behind the station from your diary.  It's a complete news reporting station.  As long as they s-i-m-p-l-f-y the information so that people will be into it, I mean as long as they educate and inform, it'd be a hit.  

    The idea of "outside the beltway" show, if done right, could make it cool to be informed.  Wouldn't that be interesting?  Count me in as a regular viewer.

    •  No. Not rich. NOt by a long shot. Just aggravated (0+ / 0-)

      I agree completely with you analysis though.  [wink wink] ;-)  

      I promised my family they won't see me dragged from my home by men in black, dangling off ropes from helicopters.

      by Junglered1 on Sun Feb 18, 2007 at 12:35:22 PM PST

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  •  Bring Back Donahue! (0+ / 0-)

    The host who was RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING.  Who opposed the war when it took guts to do so.

    A commissioned report for NBC's internal purposes in December put the concern this way: Donahue was described as "a tired, left-wing liberal out of touch with the current marketplace." Continuing, the study said that Donahue is "a difficult public face for NBC in a time of war...he seems to delight in presenting guests who are antiwar, anti-Bush and skeptical of the administration's motives." Unmentioned was that there were more pro-war guests on the Donahue show than those espousing an antiwar viewpoint.

    In a pointed but polite manner, Donahue issued a statement that indicated what was going on behind the scenes: "We were hoping to break through the noisy drums of war on cable and become a responsible platform for dissenters as well as Administration supporters. The New York Times op-ed page features a variety of views regarding the Bush war on Iraq,including regular columnists who have been critical of the Administration's foreign policy team. MSNBC's voice should be no less diverse. The hiring of Mike Savage, Dick Armey and Joe Scarborough suggest a strategy to outfox Fox."
    --Published on Monday, March 3, 2003 by CommonDreams.org

        MSNBC Sabotages Donahue

    Now that the overwhelming majority of the country is "antiwar, anti-Bush and skeptical of the administration's motives", why don't they bring back the guy who got it right first!

    •  I forgot about that, but I never watched him. (0+ / 0-)

      Too corny for my taste when I'd see some clip.  But, maybe you're right!  Write MSNBC!  Links are at the btm of this diary!

      I promised my family they won't see me dragged from my home by men in black, dangling off ropes from helicopters.

      by Junglered1 on Sun Feb 18, 2007 at 12:37:06 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

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