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So, does anyone else feel like saying "get it over with?"

Time apparently will report on a "remote possibility" that Senator Joe Lieberman, "Independent" of Connecticut, will switch to the Republican Party.

Check it out in Editor and Publisher.

Not that I want Harry Reid to have to switch offices again, but if it's going to happen, why tease us?

Originally posted to michaelroston on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 11:51 AM PST.


If Senator Joe switches sides will someone a Senate Republican switch to compensate?

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  •  I guess he's ready for retirement. (2+ / 0-)
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    FrankieB, Owllwoman

    Because he knows damn well he ain't getting another term running as a Puke.  His true colors finally come through.


    It's not a justice system. It's just a system.

    by bluedogtxn on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 11:51:45 AM PST

  •  Even if Lieberman switches sides (13+ / 0-)

    Harry Reid will keep his office, and the Democrats will keep their chairmanships until the next Congressional Election.  This being the case, there is little reason for the Republicans to offer Holy Joe any inducements to stab Democrats in the back yet again and even less reason for him to accept.

    "He had, in fact, got everything from the church and Sunday School, except, perhaps, any longing whatever for decency and kindness and reason." Elmer Gantry

    by MadRuth on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 11:58:26 AM PST

    •  Thanks for pointing that out. (3+ / 0-)
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      MadRuth, MadGeorgiaDem, theark

      So few people know or understand that the leadership was "locked" in, as were the chairmanships (which party has control-not individual Chairpersons) of the committess, and that even if we lost more Senators from the party the leadership and all that would remain in tact as is.

      I don't know all the details but recall reading about this locked in status a month or so ago.  Do you recall or have any information on that?  I think it might help people understand that The Lieberman effect would only influence the voting numbers on actual votes in the senate, and since he doesn't support us most of the time, it really doesn't make a difference anyway.

      The thing about Equal Rights is that if they are not Equal they are not rights, they are privileges.

      by Burnsey on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 12:20:46 PM PST

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      •  I tried to find a link (1+ / 0-)
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        to the diary where I first read this and couldn't.  This is my understanding of it: In 2002, the Senate was 50-50, with Cheney as the tie breaker.  Therefore, the R's had to agree to a change in leadership  if one R changed to Dem, because then the Dems would be in the majority.  Today, Dems already have a majority, 51-49.  If Loserman switches, R's will still not be in the majority.

        "He had, in fact, got everything from the church and Sunday School, except, perhaps, any longing whatever for decency and kindness and reason." Elmer Gantry

        by MadRuth on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 01:40:57 PM PST

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    •  This is the second time I've heard this rumor. (2+ / 0-)
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      MadGeorgiaDem, FrankieB

      The animosity for Joe Lieberman has apparently gotten pretty intense.  The Democrats in the Senate are getting really angry with him for making public statements about their patriotism etc. because of their challenge to the President about the war.

      The only thing I could think when I heard this rumor was that if it was true it might mean that the Republicans might plan on not holding to their word to let the leadership stand until the next election and that they might be planning to make use of Cheney as the tie-breaking vote.  I am not sure though.  As much as I dislike Lieberman (and that is a lot), I don't think I'd like to see what would happen if he switched.  The Senate could easily be distracted for a good amount of time and go into even worse grid lock than they already are.

  •  I'd say it's unlikely (1+ / 0-)
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    The Senate is still organized to have the Democrats in charge, so Lieberman switching parties probably wouldn't change things, though people who know more about parliamentary procedure than I do could probably set me straight on that. Plus, Lieberman isn't stupid, he's just immoral. He knows just as well as we do that the 2008 Senate elections favor the Democrats. Sure, he could switch parties now and effectively be part of a majority, but he'd be out in the cold by the time 2009 rolls around, should the Democrats pick up seats. Democrats might tolerate his antics now, when we need his votes, but if and when the Democrats have a more solid majority, he can and will be punished if he jumps ship.

  •  From the E&P article (0+ / 0-)

    Lieberman "has been indulging in some fairly immodest political footsie."

    Clever understatement.  Six more years of Liebershit.  Gag

    A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. - Aristotle

    by DWG on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 12:01:49 PM PST

  •  Republican Party? (16+ / 0-)

    So he's moving to the left?

    It's good for your enemies to think you're a little crazy. As long as you can back it up.

    by dov12348 on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 12:02:17 PM PST

  •  Nothing in it for him. (4+ / 0-)

    No reason for him to switch.  He would get a minimal gain in influence for 2 years & then he would be completely without any power or influence beginning in 2009 after the Republicans lose more seats.

    And forget ever being re-elected in Connecticut.  He already will have problems if he decides to run again in 2012, but this move would make his chances of winning exactly 0%.

    I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson [-4.25, -5.33]

    by GTPinNJ on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 12:07:14 PM PST

    •  If Joe pulled that trigger... (7+ / 0-)

      ... he'd lose his committee chairmanship, and every committee seat assigned by the Democrats.

      And none of the current Republican ranking members would move aside for him.  And he cheesed off John Warner enough that he might be very, very unbusy so far as committee seats go.

      Talk-Show Joe won't pull that trigger.

      If the Democrats win in '08, look for Spring of '09 for him to leave the Senate for Pfizer a lobbying post and let Jodi Rell appoint a replacement.

      For now, we're all best off to just exclude his and his staff from leadership meetings.  Seeing that he's not actually a Democrat, and all.

      1/31/07: The most overblown case of prosecution for littering since Alice's Restaurant.

      by FlyingToaster on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 12:18:35 PM PST

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  •  Just the quotes from Lieberman (0+ / 0-)

    qualify him for a deluxe tar and feather treatment from the Connecticut Dems.  He's just despicable.  

  •  He won't do it (5+ / 0-)

    He's having too much fun twisting everyone's short hairs.

    And lose his chairmanship? Riiiight.

    Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change. - Tennyson

    by bumblebums on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 12:20:46 PM PST

  •  Does this mean there will be another slew of (2+ / 0-)
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    foonk, MadGeorgiaDem

    anti-Lieberman diaries. Hey, I was getting used to having a new boogeyman (er..) boogeywoman to obsess about every nuance and pimple.

    •  It's like the old cartoon... (2+ / 0-)
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      MadGeorgiaDem, NoMoJoe

      Reagan is yesterday.
      Bush is today.

      Nixon is forever.

      Lieberman is approaching that status, especially here in New England.

      1/31/07: The most overblown case of prosecution for littering since Alice's Restaurant.

      by FlyingToaster on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 12:36:23 PM PST

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      •  Be careful (0+ / 0-)

        remember the old story about the man who hated someone so bad, he cried when that object of his hatred died. Since his entire life was about hating this one guy, when the guy died, his life was empty and had no meaning. That was why he was crying, he had no one else to hate.

  •  The subject I've posted more about than any other (0+ / 0-)

    The neo-con SOB is still my Senator.

    He doesn't switch until his endorsement of McCain or Rudy will have the maximum impact, and then only if the GOP hoses Joe's pal Susan Collins and gives him Homeland Security.  He's probably telling McConnell that Collins is toast in 2008 right now.

    He is either McCain's V.P. or pencilled in at State or Defense.

  •  I wish he would move to... (1+ / 0-)
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    another state. Any takers????

  •  Liebermann aint going anywhere. (0+ / 0-)

    Threatening to leave the Democratic party is the only card he's got to play and it's a weak one at that. He's under the illusion that the party will come pleading for him not to go. While I'd hate to see the 'thugs get another seat, if he goes, good riddance. He's a little whiney little titty baby and he aint worth the touble.

    American Idol is quickly replacing religion as the opiate of the masses.

    by MadGeorgiaDem on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 02:06:33 PM PST

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