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News today on CNN -- sorry, no link, video only -- is that former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson is thinking of running for president.

His schtick?

He's a moderate.

Oh, good grief, just kill me now ...

Fred Thompson is a right-wing nut ball of the nuttiest variety.

Here is a bit of data regarding Fred Thompson:

First of all, who is paying Fred Thompson's bills these days, now that his role on the ever-renewed Law and Order television programs has been retired?  It's the American Enterprise Institute, home to the nut balls and felons who brought you the Iraq War and are hyping a new Iran War like there is no tomorrow.

Check this out:

http://www.aei.org/...

And look at his fellow travelers -- traitors, nuts, thieves and liars all:

http://www.aei.org/...

Lynne Cheney!  David Frum!  Lil' Freddie "Surge" Kagan!  Richard Perle!  Jeanne -- even though she's dead -- Kirkpatrick!

All these people are totally bonkers!

Here is my take on this:

"Fred Thompson" equals "More Iraq War" equals "A New Iran War."  He consorts with felons, with liars, with nuts, with radicals and with extremists.  He obviously shares their values and probably their foreign policy ideas.  Crazy!  Fred Thompson is a crazy nut bar.

Oh, and look here ...

Fred Thompson led the effort to raise money to pay Scooter Libby's legal bills!  And he's Scooter Libby's best friend ever!

Scooter Libby is a convicted criminal!

http://blogs.wsj.com/...

A moderate?  No.

Fred Thompson is a nut ball's nut ball.  He's right in the middle of it all.  He works in the nerve center of insane, right-wing radicalism.  He's friends are the convicted enemies of the American people.  Insane!  Crazy!  Criminals!  That is Fred Thompson.

Finally, here is his "moderate" voting record in the Senate:

http://www.ontheissues.org/...

He hates gays!  He hates women!  He voted for the Iraq War!  He's anti-Choice!  He "favors" Social Security Privatization!

Fred Thompson is not a moderate.

He is a nutcase.

A lunatic.

A nut ball.

A weirdo.

An extremist.

A radical.

He is too extreme for America.

Originally posted to bink on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 07:14 AM PDT.

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  •  What a Freak! (9+ / 0-)

    The more I read about this extremist this morning, the more crazy his presidential run sounded to me.

    I recommended your comment. And then I un-recommended it.

    by bink on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 07:16:08 AM PDT

  •  Urgh. (3+ / 0-)
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    bink, litho, LithiumCola

    I saw the news that he was mulling a run, and I thought - They're trying to Gipperize us again.  

    Stick to acting, Fred.  You're much better at it.

  •  I agree (6+ / 0-)

    http://www.cbsnews.com/...

    On the issues, Thompson said he:

    1. Supports President Bush's decision to increase troops in Iraq. "Wars are full of mistakes. You rectify things. I think we're doing that now," he said. "Why would we not take any chance, even though there's certainly no guarantees, to not be run out of that place? I mean, we've got to take that opportunity and give it a chance to work."
    2. Would pardon former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby - who was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice - now, rather than waiting until all his appeals are exhausted. Thompson is a fundraiser for Libby's defense.
    3. Opposes gun control, and praised last week's 2-1 federal appeals decision overturning a long-standing handgun ban. "The court basically said the Constitution means what it says, and I agree with that."
    4. Is "pro-life," and believes federal judges should overturn the 1973 Roe v. Wade abortion rights decision as "bad law and bad medical science."
    5. Opposes gay marriage, but would let states decide whether to allow civil unions. "Marriage is between a man and a woman, and I don't believe judges ought to come along and change that."
    •  He might be (8+ / 0-)

      the most dangerous Republican out there.

      I know his popularity boosted tremendously when he left the Senate and went back to tv.  If the voters have short enough memories, he could actually be a viable candidate.

      Israel has one legitimate and urgent demand to make of the Palestinians: that they not attack Israelis.

      by litho on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 07:19:18 AM PDT

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      •  Yes (2+ / 0-)
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        Mostly because he is viewed in a flattering role for a hundred hours a week on the most widely syndicated show in the history of television.  They say that there is no hour of the day where an episode of Law and Order is not playing somewhere in America.  That's a lot of advertising.

        I recommended your comment. And then I un-recommended it.

        by bink on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 07:21:48 AM PDT

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        •  I am an avid L&O fan, and I hate FT.. (0+ / 0-)

          Even on L&O he is a right-wing nutter. Somewhat toned down for TV, but some of the things he says that make McCoy roll his eyes are right up the right wing alley. What I find unbelievable about the L&O casting is that I don't think that there is any way that a right wing good ole boy from out of state could get himself elected as an NYC DA. But I am sure that the casting is NBC's way of being "fair and balanced", after all, can't have a show about NYC with nothing but liberals, there must be SOME right-wing Republicans in NYC somewhere. Besides Guiliani, that is.. LOL

          What happens when Bush takes Viagra? he gets taller. Robin Williams

          by Demfem on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 08:12:40 AM PDT

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      •  between him and Hagel (2+ / 0-)
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        it's hard to tell who would be worse in the long run. Probably Thompson, but Hagel is a close 2nd.

        -8.63 -7.28 Molly Ivin : "..We want to find solutions other than killing people. Not in our name, not with our money, not with our children's blood."

        by OneCrankyDom on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 07:22:21 AM PDT

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        •  The main difference (2+ / 0-)
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          is that I don't think Hagel has a real shot.  If Thompson can "Gipperize" himself, as Nina Katerina put it, he just might be able to win.

          One thing I'm pretty sure of is that any Republican who runs as a Republican in 08 is going to have his ass handed to him on a platter.  This is our election to lose, and barring anything unforeseen I don't think we will.

          Thompson, though, is a wild card.

          Israel has one legitimate and urgent demand to make of the Palestinians: that they not attack Israelis.

          by litho on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 07:28:19 AM PDT

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          •  Hagel could be the new Rebel (1+ / 0-)
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            libertyisliberal

            He is starting to sound like McCain did 8yrs ago. Remember McCain could of claimed many swing voters if he had won the Primary. Americans love their rebels and if they think it's a underdog, even more. Don't underestimate Hagel

            -8.63 -7.28 Molly Ivin : "..We want to find solutions other than killing people. Not in our name, not with our money, not with our children's blood."

            by OneCrankyDom on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 07:56:51 AM PDT

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    •  I just gotta add (1+ / 0-)
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      polecat

      Thompsons position on repealing Roe would pretty much doom his candidacy, and even if he took the primary, America would not vote him in.

  •  Here's a link (1+ / 0-)
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    bink

    to an AP story on it.

    Israel has one legitimate and urgent demand to make of the Palestinians: that they not attack Israelis.

    by litho on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 07:20:09 AM PDT

  •  The thing is... (1+ / 0-)
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    bush ran as a stealth (or maybe an Etch-A-Sketch) candidate. His extremism was totally hidden (or maybe not implanted yet). Anyone who runs up front on an extremist platform will probably not get very far.

    •  Thing is... (0+ / 0-)

      From Bush, and looking at Rudy, McCain, Mitt, and Newt, we now that they either ARE extremists or WILL CONVERT.

      Which is why all Repubs, hands down, must be defeated.

      Whenever there is a war to be fought, those who are the most likely to fight it are the least likely to gain from it.

      by Jank2112 on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 08:59:17 AM PDT

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  •  ah yes, you may be right, (0+ / 0-)

    he might be a few cards short of a full deck, BUT he's an ACTOR!  Americans love actors, especially those who pretend that they are "tough!" He's a shoo-in!

    Yeah the revolution starts now In your own backyard In your own hometown - Steve Earle

    by Sargent Pepper on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 07:26:20 AM PDT

  •  Sink Fred! Compare him to Cheney -2 peas in a pod (1+ / 0-)
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    To sink Fred Thompson, all you have to do is run the litany of things that make him EXACTLY like Dick Cheney... they even have that same stooopid crooked grin, the avuncular demeanor, and the same politics.  Fred Thompson = Dick Cheney!

  •  Fred Thompson, Cheney minus the gay daughter! (2+ / 0-)
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    •  Cheney Republican (3+ / 0-)
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      He represents the Cheney wing of the Republican Party.

      I recommended your comment. And then I un-recommended it.

      by bink on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 07:30:59 AM PDT

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      •  the "Dictator" wing of the Republican party. nt (0+ / 0-)

        Happy little moron, lucky little man. I wish I was a moron, my God, perhaps I am! -- Spike Milligan

        by polecat on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 08:00:00 AM PDT

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      •  Agreed (1+ / 0-)
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        In a way, I'm disappointed. As a film buff (and when I say buff, I mean I can recite the biography of character actors like George Dzunda off the top of my head.) I've admired Thompson in his film roles. Also, his role on the Watergate committee is highly admirable. So you might think, if anyone was going to be a conservative moderate it would be him. HA!

        The first questions he was asked were about abortion
        (RVW is "bad law"), gay marriage ("No". No to civil Unions as well) and gun control. ("Against it")

        So there you go, he wants to be the wingnut-standard bearer and he can possibly outmanuever Brownback. And he's from Tenneesee so you can't count him out.

        Whenever there is a war to be fought, those who are the most likely to fight it are the least likely to gain from it.

        by Jank2112 on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 08:03:07 AM PDT

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  •  The sad and scary thing is (5+ / 0-)

    that Thompson actually is more of a moderate than most Republicans.

    According to On The Issues (the link you provided)he scores about the same as Romney. He's well to the left of Hagel. He's to the right of Giuliani.

    He's slightly left of McCain.

    Now, that is scary.

    Joe Lieberman likes to be called an "Independent Democrat". I like being called a "sexual dynamo".

    by Arjun Jaikumar on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 07:42:46 AM PDT

  •  C'mon in, Fred! (3+ / 0-)
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    In fact, every Republican who wants to enter the primary fray, please join in!

    You've got to be willing to fight the other GOP candidates, though. Take a position on the war, corruption, competence, etc.

    We'll supply the long knives.

    "One does not discover new lands without consenting to leave sight of the shore for a very long time." -Andre Gide

    by pat208 on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 07:49:22 AM PDT

    •  I'm not happy with the prospect (4+ / 0-)

      of a Fred Thompson entry.

      He's famous. He's well-respected by insiders.

      He has both conservative and moderate credentials (sort of like Bush did in 2000), meaning that he could be the same kind of superdangerous "stealth conservative".

      He's got the look. This is very important; to be viable you have to either look good, or look like a statesman. Thompson sort of has the latter.

      I think he's dangerous. The saving grace, in my opinion, would be that the money might not be there, with McCain/Giuliani/Romney having sucked up the lion's share.

      Joe Lieberman likes to be called an "Independent Democrat". I like being called a "sexual dynamo".

      by Arjun Jaikumar on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 07:52:40 AM PDT

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      •  I'm happy with the prospect of... (2+ / 0-)
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        ... more enemy combatants. Our worst case is that the GOP converges on a candidate early, i.e. before the primary floor is slippery with metaphorical blood.

        This is the opportunity for the GOP to implode or explode. Their coalition is unmanageable, their record is abysmal, and they're getting worried. They fight each other, we win.

        "One does not discover new lands without consenting to leave sight of the shore for a very long time." -Andre Gide

        by pat208 on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 08:07:19 AM PDT

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  •  the bad part is he actually is smarter than (2+ / 0-)
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    polecat, jfdunphy

    Reagan was, and people will vote for him just because he played a DA on TV,  thats the part that bothers me, who's pushing him to run  Bill Frist?

    "A journey of a thousand miles begins with but one step"

    by testvet6778 on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 07:52:55 AM PDT

  •  Same Fred (1+ / 0-)
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    jfdunphy

    This is the same guy that asked if there were listening devices during the watergate hearings, right?  Same guy who was responsible for Baker asking What did the president know and when did he know it?  That Fred Thompson?  Oh if he were only willing to ask those kinds of questions today.  What sublime irony if he pardoned Libby.

  •  Thompson? What a laugh! (1+ / 0-)
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    libertyisliberal

    American voters are--to a large degree--notoriously shallow.  Fred Thompson is far too physically unattractive to become president.  A grim expression and a balding head would be such a downer.  While a younger, smiling face would reek of hope and optimism.  In this age of celebrity, tell me how I could be wrong.

    For people of deep faith like George W. Bush, beliefs are intoxicating, and facts are sobering. Sober up, America!

    by slip kid no more on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 08:33:06 AM PDT

  •  By Reponazi standards... (0+ / 0-)

    ...he is a moderate.

    It is to Madame Justice that I dedicate this concerto.

    by rifek on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 08:42:42 AM PDT

  •  Yes Thompson may be all those things. (0+ / 0-)

    But he's an actor, so he's got political leverage and credibility. Have we forgotten Reagan, Schwarztenager, and the others? Reagan was right about one thing. Americans have a hard time telling the difference between Hollywood and reality.

  •  Sure he's a moderate (0+ / 0-)

    After all, he's probably had to sit at the same table as the liberal jews who run Law and Order, hasn't he? Safe to assume, at least.

    If this is the caliber of the competition, my response is "Bring it on!"

  •  Great (0+ / 0-)

    I'd love to see one of these nutcases as the Republican nominee.

    The alternaive, that there are too many of them in the running and Rudy gets it, is almost as good. Huge masses of teh Republican base will stay home.

  •  He's perfect! (0+ / 0-)
    1. He's an actor of sorts (rightwingnut D.A on a popular seies)
    1. Knows how to read a script, cue cards, teleprompterrs and follow direction like a good little preznit (see (1) above),
    1. Because of his TV role of the arrogantly authoritarian D.A., fighting for wingnut values and frustrating pinko liberals like Sam Waterson; he has instant cachet with the majority of wingnuts who regularly vote against their own interests: The ones who obtain all their 'news' from Fox Noise and their preacher.
    1. Don't forget the L&O episode where he fires a female ADA for disagreeing with his wingnut philosophy. That gets him the red-neck vote.
    1. The best reason he's perfect: We won't have to watch his sanctimonious, sneering character on L&O anymore!

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