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I was watching CNN a day or so after the IPCC summary report on climate change came out.  Rob Marciano had gotten a professor to comment on the results of the report and the implications for species extinction.  I'm sorry I don't recall the name of the professor or his school.  I hope he keeps his job.  The professor repeated that the report indicates that 20 to 30 percent of species on the planet face extinction due to climate change.  Marciano said something to the effect that there were things we could still do to prevent that from happening and the professor, after a pause said that it was too late.  Marciano was beside himself!  He couldn't believe what he was hearing.  He acted for all the world like a kid who has been told he can't have a "do over" in a game.  Unfortunately folks climate change isn't a game and we don't get a "do over".

I'd like to think that most of us aren't so foolish... that it is only that the media has been criminally negligent about keeping us honestly informed about what is arguably the most critical issue (along with population control) facing us in this century.  I'd like to think that, but I'm not sure it is true.  I've known for years that the clock is running down on the climate, and I haven't been out in the streets protesting.  I've done the civilized and easy things that I can do to limit my impact, but I have not been especially vocal.  I volunteered for five years with an organization that is highly aware of the implications of climate change but as docents we were encouraged to be "politically correct" and not engage in "politically charged"  issues.  The media of course is complicit in lulling us into a false sense of security.  Even though 99.9999% of peer reviewed scientists are alarmed at the current climate trends, the .0001% on non peer reviewed scientists who hold opposing views are given equal air time.  Even though logically we know their views are in the extreme minority, we hear their views as often or more often than those of the peer reviewed scientists.  We internalize what we hear.  We somehow believe that there is never a too late.  That once we turn our attention to the problem we will be able to solve it in time to save our species and the species that we need to survive.  That is simply not true.  I hate doing a gloom and doom diary but folks the clock is running down on the climate and it may already be too late to stop it. What we do in the next year or two may well  determine the survival or extinction of the remaining species our own included and there are no "do overs"

Originally posted to dangangry on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 02:33 AM PDT.

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  •  Its possible to halt climate change (2+ / 0-)
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    raines, dangangry

    The damage is being caused by humans so lowering the number of humans by 80% would have an effect.

    It would be most effective if the humans selected were the highly energy dependent urban and suburban populations in the northern hemisphere.

    We seem to realize that there is a connection between too many people doing too many things in too small a geographic area, but politicians are afraid of opening a can of worms.

    We have worked against this end medically by helping prevent infant mortality and making it possible for people to live longer healthier lives.

    If you want to end global warming and save the planet some of us need to have fewer kids. Either that or let mother nature take care of it for us by keeping the bees from polinating our crops.

    Now it may be that our leaders would prefer to acheive the goal of less people by letting the third world starve and then die of disease mopping up by arming them to fight resource wars, but frankly the best famine, disease and war have ever been able to do is reduce population by a few millions.

    Even working hard for nuclear proliferation and depending on nuclear armegedon as the Bush administration has been doing is unlikely to be as effective as simply ceasing to reproduce.

    If you can't bring yourself to do that to save the planet don't bitch when the cities drown.

    Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

    by rktect on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 03:39:22 AM PDT

  •  it is not too late (1+ / 0-)
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    dangangry

    saying it is seems incredibly unhelpful.

    •  Perhaps you are right and I am ranting! (3+ / 0-)
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      raines, Winnie, FoundingFatherDAR

      I feel that the science indicates that it is indeed too late for many species though perhaps (and only perhaps!)not yet too late for ours. I choose to word my diary so strongly because I believe that the first step to change has to be for people to wake up to the urgency of the situation, and we are constantly being lulled into a false sense of security by the media and by those of us who know better and still keep silent for fear of offending.

      Impeach Bush/Cheney

      by dangangry on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 05:21:50 AM PDT

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  •  You are correct that population (2+ / 0-)
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    is the crux of the issue.  I agree that if we don't control population, the planet will do it for us and almost assuredly in ways we won't like!  That said I don't see any easy answers for socially engineering a reduction in urban population in the short term.  It is a nasty problem we have created for ourselves with no easy answers.  

  •  Maybe the next "civilized" species (1+ / 0-)
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    will do better after everything starts again from a cockroach .... certainly we are getting what we deserve by not taking care of the wonderful world and opportunity we had.

    Maybe this time the dinosaurs (or equiv) will prevail.

    Although we may die off, the earth will go on after it gets rid of the parasites (us, in this case).

    John Edwards - the repugs worst nightmare!!

    by Da Rock on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 05:56:46 AM PDT

  •  Unfortunately all we will see from our (1+ / 0-)
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    dangangry

    politicians will be feel good spending bills that do nothing in the long run. Population control, rationing, difficult decisions...forget it. The only thing they know how to do is spend money. Every city and state will have their hand out for funds to reduce their 'carbon footprint'. Then they will spend the money on police overtime and funding teacher pensions. Farmers will be feeding at the trough and receive billions to plant food we can burn in our cars. In the end rich people will be able to afford all the energy they want and poor people will get the shaft.

  •  Effective action requires a realistic analysis. (1+ / 0-)
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    dangangry

    I thought of ten ways to at least slow global warming, but they aren't quick, easy or simple. go here for them:
    Ten top ways to slow or reverse global warming

    My main gripe now is that there are just a few actual owners of the industry and media conglomerates who hand down policies and directions that shape our awareness of global warming, and they have tried to hide the truth to protect their short term return on investments, which their profit margin. That's truly sick.

    We are mid-sized mammals who define ourselves and then fight over who's definition is right.

    by howardfromUSA on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 06:24:27 AM PDT

  •  ABC did their part this morning (adding to GW) (1+ / 0-)
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    On GMA they promoted an airplane "ride" (out of Las Vegas) that allows passengers to experience temporary weightlessness.  For only $3,500 a ride, you too can waste jet fuel and contribute tons of unnecessary carbon emissions to the atmosphere.

    My Karma just ran over your Dogma

    by FoundingFatherDAR on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 08:42:38 AM PDT

  •  This is a valuable observation (1+ / 0-)
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    We cannot prevent what is already in the pipeline - what we can and must do is to stop putting more in the pipeline, begin to work on planning our response to this global catastrophe and mitigating the effects in whatever ways we can.

    "The less satisfaction we derive from being ourselves, the greater is our desire to be like others." - Eric Hoffer

    by Mary on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 12:36:32 PM PDT

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