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Brady: I don't think they necessarily always know what's on there [web sites like Daily Kos].

O'Reilly: But we told them what was on there before we did the story. You've got to understand that. We didn't ambush this guy. We gave them a week. We said look, look at this stuff, and they don't care. JetBlue doesn't care that they said all the things Jesse said, at all. And I'm saying to myself, are they just plain stupid? Because this is hate of the worst order. It's like the Ku Klux Klan. It's like the Nazi Party. There's no difference here. People should die. They want Tony Snow to die. Cheney to die. It doesn't get worse than this, Miss Brady.

Brady: You know, there's no question Daily Kos is clearly on the left. And one thing that comes up, especially with these open forums, is you get a lot of lunatics come up, and I'm sure, I look at this site...

O'Reilly: You know, you can... Look, I have my own web site. We don't... open forum is bull. Alright? You can regulate what's on your web site.

And what's going on at BillOReilly.com?

Posted By: Wildabeast (4638 posts) - 24 July 2007 8:15am PT

Reply: RE: If Hillary WIns, WIll You Be Respectful of Her?

If Hillary wins, I will be respectful of our leader. If you could read my thoughts, I would be on the SS [Secret Service] watch list.

Uh-oh. We know what gets you on that watch list, don't we?

Lone nut on an open forum? Who cares? O'Reilly himself says the open forum excuse is "bull." Because "you can regulate what's on your web site."

O'Reilly's actual web site policy?

BillOReilly.com will not be held liable for any user activity on the message boards. We do not actively monitor user-submitted content.

So I'm saying to myself, is he just plain stupid? Because this is hypocrisy of the worst order. It's like the Ku Klux Klan. It's like the Nazi Party. There's no difference here. People should lie. They want to lie. O'Reilly to lie. It doesn't get worse than this, Miss Brady.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 08:48 AM PDT.

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Comment Preferences

  •  His average viewer is 70 years old (22+ / 0-)

    And he knows full well that they are exceedingly unlikely to even know what a web forum is, let alone log on and check it out for themselves.

    " They are building an America which cannot be sustained." - Steve Gilliard

    by MeMeMeMeMe on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 08:41:37 AM PDT

  •  My email to JetBlue (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    sidnora, khereva, kyril, LaFajita

    My email to corporatecommunications@jetblue.com:

    I'm very concered with JetBlue's association with Bill O'Reilly, especially given that billoreilly.com has threatened the life of a sitting United States Senator.  You can see this threat at http://bp3.blogger.com/...

    Since it's now JetBlue's policy to associate someone wth the postings on their web site, when will JetBlue repudiate Bill O'Reilly and his hate web site?

  •  CALL THEM ON IT! (11+ / 0-)

    The next time Clinton's campaign manager goes on there, if he is not armed with a printout of hate comments from O'reilly's open forum I am going to scream. Why are they not calling him on this hypocrisy? Its so simple!

    •  Not just Clinton's campaign (8+ / 0-)

      Every single Democratic candidate -- indeed, every single Republican candidate -- ought to go on the record against this reprehensible behavior.

      And then, a campaign to boycott O'Lielly's commercial sponsors should be mounted.

      "You are seeing impeachment as a constitutional crisis. Impeachment is the cure for a constitutional crisis." -- John Nichols

      by litigatormom on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 08:49:42 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Yes! Call him on it! (4+ / 0-)

      Everytime O'Lielly makes one of these scurrilous, lying attacks, the person he is opposite should say:

      Yes! People should all go and see for themselves what evil arguments are put on that site! www.dailykos.com! It's all there for all the world to see!

      We should all call his radio show and suggest it, as well. Just keep on repeating:

      You have to check out what these crazy people at dailykos.com are saying! Seriously, you have to go read this stuff! NOW!

      Why bother to argue with him? He'll just turn off his mike. But if even 1/4 of his listeners actually come to this site and see our discourse, then he will have lost that one-quarter.

      •  Need to say.... (9+ / 0-)

        Visit Dailykos.com and see what is written and what is being discussed. Then visit littlegreenfootballs.com and freerepublic.com and see what passes for an open forum on the right. Then decide which direction you think America should head.

        Signature Impaired.

        by gttim on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:06:51 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Also point out a very important fact - (0+ / 0-)

          Membership in DailyKos is

          FREE

          .

          Unlike O'Reilly and Limbaugh, kos doesn't make you pay extra to post, requiring you to get a "premium" membership.

          Cost is no barrier here.

        •  Also raptureready.org (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          Coherent Viewpoint

          I did a little hate site cruising one day. By far the most offensive comment I found was at raptureready.org, exceeding even LGF haters. I thought I clipped it but cannot find it. Basically it slammed either Iraqis or Muslims or both, saying "they" had no music, no art, no literature, no culture of any kind. Other than being the cradle of civilization, that is. Typical winger dehumanizing to pave the way for Bush's Crusade conscience-free. Soooo predictable.

          So is this what they're teaching in Sunday School these days? So widespread, must be. Sad. When my mom made me go to Sunday School, we were taught that if you couldn't say some nice about someone, don't say anything at all. How things have changed in our America since Reagan's republican ascendancy.

          "Question authority and the authorities will question you." Now more than ever!
          Hey, Loyal Bushies - elections have consequences. Mostly for you.

          by armadillo on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:43:16 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

      •  The best way to deal with O'Reilly (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Coherent Viewpoint, LaFajita

        is to ignore him. The man is sick with delusions of grandeur. He wants to be adored by the Backwash-- and hated by everyone else-- because it makes him feel important.

        Don't appear on his show. Don't call in. Don't listen to his show. Ignore him. Treat him like the squawing little pygmy he is. He'll hate that. He went after DKOS not just because of its politics but because of the size of its audience. It was taking the spotlight away from him. He doesn't want to score political points against it; he wants to shut it down.

        Ignore him and he'll wither and crumble like a vampire denied his blood.

        Walter Winchell, Father Coughlin, Gerald L K Smith, Billy James Hargis, Mort Downey all once rode high and mighty, bullying the nation. Then they wore out their welcome; people suddenly stopped listening. They died in obscurity. Barely anyone showed up at Winchell's funeral, and he'd once been as looming a presence as FDR himself.

        Limbaugh an Coulter are the same. The thing they fear most is being returned to obscurity.

        •  Hello? (0+ / 0-)

          We need to pay attention to O'Liely and repudiate what he says. 1200 wingnuts wrote to JetBlue to pressure JetBlue into pulling its sponsorship of YearlyKos.

          There are people who pay attention to him and if we don't, we will be blindsided by him.

          Nosce Hostem
          Know your enemy

          •  Whatever O'Reilly's latest idiocy, (0+ / 0-)

            you'll hear about it. Someone else can carry the cross by monitoring him and reporting here, just as Southern Poverty Law Center keeps us posted about Neo-Nazi hate propaganda on the web. You don't have to watch his show and make yourself nauseous and enraged in the process. If I were a Jew in Berlin in 1933 I'd want to know what Hitler was planning, but I wouldn't want to hear him screeching on the radio, much less would I write him back to complain.

            O'Reilly wants to make you sick to your stomach. it gives him joy. He loves dropping a turd in the punchbowl. So stay away from the punch.

            A large part of his audience consists of people who don't share his views but watch simply because he's grotesque and gets them riled. If they stopped watching his falling ratings would eventually do him in.

            He won this last round not just because he got 1200 of his wingnuts to write JetBlue, but because he kept three times that number of Kossaks busy posting about him here and sending entreaties to JetBlue. That JetBlue caved and pulled its sponsorship is less important; they just showed their true stripes.

            O'Reilly can be effectively handled by just a few well placed people. Al Franken, Jon Stewart, and Stephen Colbert know what makes him tick and how to turn his inanities against him, and we know they've really hurt him. It's OK to bring the threatening comments on his website to the FBI's attention, too. But DKOS should not be rededicated to responding to him. It's exactly what he wants.  

  •  Stupid? No. (14+ / 0-)

    He's a bald-faced liar who knows he'll never be held to account for his lies.

    You know.

    A Fox Republican.

    Impeach, Prosecute, and Execute the Usurper.
    Destroy the Useless Cowards: Kick Every Incumbent Out in '08.

    by khereva on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 08:44:24 AM PDT

  •  O Reilly and hypocrisy... (7+ / 0-)

    have been bosom buddies his entire life... HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE TRUTH....we know he can't handle it-- and so, he makes stuff up.

    Our country can survive war, disease, and poverty... what it cannot do without is justice.

    by mommyof3 on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 08:44:39 AM PDT

  •  for any Right winger (9+ / 0-)

    to call us KKK or Nazis is ridiculous, absurd, and out of line.

    If anything, I would dare say that most who are actually KKK or Nazis certainly would not be Progressives. Hell most of them probably think the Republican Party and even Bush are too liberal.

    Impeachment is not a Constitutional Crisis. Impeachment is the Cure for a Constitutional Crisis.-John Nichols

    by wishingwell on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 08:44:48 AM PDT

  •  That quote... (11+ / 0-)

    from his website "BillOReilly.com will not be held liable for any user activity on the message boards. We do not actively monitor user-submitted content." is hilarious.  Great catch.  Would love to hear someone play his own comment back to him and then read this disclaimer and see what he has to say about it.  Maybe turn the tables and challenge him, see if he's willing to agree to personally own up to everything posted on his website after say, a 48 hour monitoring period, to censure... er.. police... no... 'regulate'!  yes, regulate the content.

    ...honor is a harder master than the law. It cannot compromise for less than 100 cents on the dollar and its debts never outlaw. - Mark Twain, a Biography

    by billd on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 08:44:59 AM PDT

    •  Are you kidding? (0+ / 0-)

      We shouldn't be in such a huff.  This is absolutely the perfect opportunity to take this gift that ye Gods have given us - this perfect storm unexpected fruit from the tree of teh YearlyKos - to bring light to ALL of the incredible hate that spews forth from these people daily and has so for a decade plus.  

      Malkin and the adam's apple pundit blonde (fergot her name :-).  Limbaugh.  O'Falafel.  

      All of them.  

      They're playing Rove games:  You're guilty, paint quick by calling your opponent exactly the thing you are to divert attention from your glaring wrong.

      This is our chance.  We should be compiling and compiling, because with as mind blowing a list of things that the Bush admin has done to merit their perp walk, the list of things his minions in the "fair and balanced" talking headery has been papering the good air with is a million fold worse.

      Hate site indeed.  What a cool fox in the national henhouse.  This should be his career coffin nail.

      Good luck Bill.  You're going to need it, because the peon 20% or so Americans who subscribe to your ideology are not the same as the 80% who know you're an evil hypocrite.  You shall be remembered as one of the most abominable humans to have ever spread hateful ideology outside of the list of those who have done it with the power to actually declare an immoral war.

      I'd pray for you, but that'd be lying directly to God in a one on one, which is the worst hypocrisy outside your comprehension.  Good luck living with yourself.

      "Life is a dream for the wise, a game for the fool, a comedy for the rich, a tragedy for the poor." --Sholem Yakov Rabinowitz

      by Back in the Cave on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:15:15 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  this is a new low for O'Reilly (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    jds1978, kyril

    He tells worthless 1/2 truths and spins more straw the entire Bush crime family.

  •  I can kick O'Reilly's ass in a boxing ring. (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Hannibal, chanbo, jds1978, MaskedKat

    Is Bill OReilly Really as Stupid as he appears?

    It just defies reason to think this man cannot really look at DKos for 10 minutes and figure out it's a serious political site.

    His constant calling it a "hate site" has GOP Meme written all over it.

    But Bill's not inter5ested in talk - he's interested in intimidation and shout down/shut down so here's a challenge he can grab ahold of.

    Doc Zombie - vs -  Bill O'Reilly

    3 minutes, miminmal gear, no ref (Repubs won't follow rules anyway), full contact, so three is no room for doubt.

    We can set it up so money is raised for some charity or another.

    I promise not to kill him.

    •  Can I (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      sidnora, xxdr zombiexx

      Sell Tickets???

      The fool who thinks he is a fool is for that very reason a wise man; But the fool who thinks he is a wise man is rightly called a fool.

      by chanbo on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 08:54:04 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  asdf (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      kyril, LaFajita

      I promise not to kill him.

      I'm sorry, but this is an unacceptable condition.

      •  Hear me out. (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        wishingwell, Hannibal

        I understand the sentiment and share it, but, as hard as it may seem to believe, I am more or less a pacifist. That is to say:

        I put the "fist" in Pacifist"

        You can qute me on the promo posters..:P

        There's no honor or goodness in killing him. It's just wrong. It's wrong to discuss outside of "just venting anger". Aside from "wrong" somebody like Bill O'Reilly might cherrypick that sentence and proclaim is came from Kos management itself...and then lie about it and tell it again.

        Bill's a war criminal - professional propagandist for the occupying powers - and needs to be imprisoned without hope of parole. He's sort of like Charles Manson, if Manson could stay on a GOP-focused talking point for 10 minutes. He influenced people to kill for him.

        Bill's also a pussy. I seldom use that term because I don't like it. Here it's appropriate. No honor in hurting a person like him because he's all mouth and attitude.

        He just needs the wind knocked out of his sails and his ego dropped down a notch or 2 in his pointy little head. He needs to be reminded he is weak and powerless.

        And then he needs to learn Dutch like the rest of the Bush Admin.

    •  Do you really think (3+ / 0-)

      he believes his own drivel? Of course he knows this is a serious political site, but who would watch him attack us then?

      Re "hate site" - I laughed out loud at the very end of the Wolfson interview, when, shuffling his papers while allowing Wolfson one final sentence, Billo muttered under his breath, "hate site", one last time.

      If Wolfson is going to go on Faux, an enterprise I consider foolish to begin with, he should be armed with Ann Coulter's greatest hits, along with O'Reilly's responses; I bet he didn't say "hate speech" even once to her.

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." - Franklin D. Roosevelt "They are a threat to your children, David" - George W. Bush

      by sidnora on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:07:15 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  This shows totaly lack of understanding (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    pb, Coherent Viewpoint, kyril

    Of the online world and how anonymity plays on people:

    Brady: You know, there's no question Daily Kos is clearly on the left. And one thing that comes up, especially with these open forums, is you get a lot of lunatics come up, and I'm sure, I look at this site...

    "Crazy" postings do NOT equal crazy people (or 'lunatics').  One can find the same thing in the usenet long before there were ever any thoughts of blogs.  Anonymity does things to a LOT of people.  People DO say things online, in general, that they would never ever say to someone to their face.  Online no one needs to worry about getting a fast 5 across the nose.  There are also the trolls, which have existed for as long as there have been bulletin board sites, then the usenet, etc.  Same thing.  The basic disconnect and anonymity of the web allows the id to play a big role beyond what it does in real, face-to-face life.  This is even true of the looneytoon winger websites (though to a MUCh lessor extent...they really ARE loons...really).

    •  I've never understood that (6+ / 0-)

       I'm far more polite to people online than I would be to their face. :)

       Mostly, because I have time to think about what I'm saying before I post it.  If you can think twice before you open your mouth, surely you can think three times before hitting "Send"?

      •  A lot of people FREEPERS in particular (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Coherent Viewpoint, Dauphin

        have a nasty inner person who thrives on anonymity. The feeling of "I can't get caught or be connected to this" nurtures those who want to engage in seriously awful human behaviors.

        Hell, MySpace just "discovered" 29000 "sex offenders" registered on their site.

        You see a lot of the really purulent trolling sorts thriving on this. Multiple names, multiple accounts, getting off on seeing how gnarly they can be, or engaging in outright hate activities.

        Mohammad once said " You can divine the worth of a man by what he chooses to do when he will not be discovered" or something to that effect.

        Years in psychotherapy taught me this in Living Color.

  •  Start a "Bill O harrassment tapes" fund (0+ / 0-)

    Make an open offer to Andrea Mackris to purchase the Bill O phone tapes for whatever money we can raise collectively.

    You know she kept a copy of it somewhere.

    Just starting the fund and raising a lot of pledges will send the appropriate message.

  •  Admission Against Interest (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Hannibal, kyril

    As far as I'm concerned, that statement by the bloviating jackass -- that "you can regulate what's on your website" -- is an admission that everything on his site has his blessing.  After all, everything up there has cleared his rigorous regulatory process, right?  So, spread it far and wide -- Bill O'Reilly endorses death threats against Democratic presidential candidates.

  •  For some reason I suspect that ... (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    sidnora, xxdr zombiexx, boofdah

    O'Reilly himself doesn't believe much of the vile that spews from his mouth. It's pure theatrics, red meat for his pit bull viewers.

    Maybe I'm giving O'Reilly too much benefit of the doubt, but when you consider that his livelihood, from books to radio to TV, is built upon denegrating those on the left, then he's bound to say and do anything to earn a buck.

    (No offense intended against pit bulls.)

    Don't Legitimize Fox News.
    "Democrats have the heart to care."

    by jeepdad on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 08:48:13 AM PDT

  •  Wingers are so addicted (12+ / 0-)

    ...to top heavy diktat, that they can't grasp the concept of bottom-up organization.  We are going to get the occasional looney calling the death of Snow, Cheney, et al.  

    The fact that these losers get TR'd (troll rated for the Fox Noise set) into oblivion is totally lost on these guys.

    They don't understand they way we operate.

    We scare them.

    Good

    I used to be disgusted, now I'm just amused

    by jds1978 on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 08:48:45 AM PDT

  •  Pay for post? (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Terre, Hannibal, jds1978, kyril

    And how is Bile O's site Open forum if one has to pay to get on the site?

    The fool who thinks he is a fool is for that very reason a wise man; But the fool who thinks he is a wise man is rightly called a fool.

    by chanbo on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 08:49:16 AM PDT

  •  Now I Am Really Angry (11+ / 0-)

    The Pope is a primate. O'Reilly is a primate. Hannity is a primate. Cheney is a primate. Bush is a primate.

    That's right. I said it. Not only that. The Pope masticates. He masticates over and over every day. They all do. Bunch of masticating Primates. Put that on your show O'Reilly!

  •  The man (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    boofdah, kyril

    cannot grasp the concept of anything other then propaganda,and hate speak. Well actually he does, he just can't stand that 'open' is flourishing.

    "And if my thought-dreams could be seen They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Bob Dylan

    by shaharazade on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 08:52:08 AM PDT

  •  Archie Bunker (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    kingubu, kyril

    Knuckle dragging bigot, with the pretense of a brain.

  •  The No Spine Zone (10+ / 0-)

    O'Reilly can't even regulate what comes out of his own mouth nor control his urges towards female staffers. He spews hatred like the coal industry spews pollution. He's hardly an example of civil discourse and restraint.

  •  Keep digging, Bill (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    sagesource, ThunderHawk13, inHI, kyril

    personally I'm getting a huge kick out this. The bonehead doesn't even realize how much he's marginalizing himself.

  •  I admit it...I do hate O'Liar and his "followers" (4+ / 0-)

    and his cult members.  Oh well...I guess I am my own "hate site".

  •  and somehow the "the Pope is a Primate" (4+ / 0-)

    comment which was the main fuel for his fire has still not been explained to Bill Orally as a play on words.  not that he'd care, or that he can read or anything.

    this guy is really the real deal.  a genuine crazy person.  writing an angry rant on a blog is a pretty sane thing to do when you're super pissed off.  but Billo-pad is a paranoid schizophrenic borderline case.

    Bionic orca maki, anyone?

    by itsbenj on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 08:56:56 AM PDT

  •  So let me get this straight...Bill O'Reilly is (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mango

    a hypocrite and a blowhard...

    I say we ignore the stupid fuck.

    Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 08:57:41 AM PDT

  •  The correct response to Bill-O (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    boofdah, Hannibal

    is this:

    "I'll take slanders from a sexually harassing pervert  with a huge grain of salt.  Loofah.  How is it that you still have a job, again?"

    Fuck off, Bill-O.  And stay out of my vicinity.

    "I want to shrink the GOP down to the size where we can drown it in a toilet." Iowa Underground

    by ThunderHawk13 on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 08:57:55 AM PDT

  •  STOP GIVING HIM FRONT PAGE EXPOSURE (5+ / 0-)

    Bill O'Reilly is like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum to get attention.  Stop giving it to him.  

    The worst thing that can happen to him is to be marginalized and forgotten.  The best way to do that is to ignore his antics and poor behavior.

    There are seriously far more important issues to discuss than some feeble talk show host desperately trying to get ratings.

    1. Climate crisis
    1. Peak oil & energy problems
    1. lolcats
    1. Iraq
    1. Impeachment

    That's just a list to get started.  Can we refocus this site away from egomaniacs and back to real topics?

  •  "People should die" (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    ThunderHawk13, Hannibal, kyril

    "People should die. They want Tony Snow to die. Cheney to die." - Bill O'Reilly

    Never mind for the moment that O'Reilly is cherry picking comments made by various users that are in fact difficult to control.

    Never mind the overt hypocrisy, since people on his own website, you know the one he claims to regulate, write comments just as bad - except they are aimed at the Left so it is OK...

    But these sporadic comments on DailyKos are quite different than say...

    A famous person on the Right like Ann Coulter saying someone should "frag" Congressman John Murtha or poison a Supreme Court Justice, or saying she wished John Edwards died in a terrorist attack.  How about when Coulter said her only regret about Oklahoma City Bombing was that it didn't happen to the New York Times?

    "Because this is hate of the worst order" - Bill O'Reilly

    So O'Reilly, you want to talk about "hate"?  I think your people and your party are the reigning champions of verbal venom and hatred.

    You know what else I think?  Your type is becoming an endangered species and you feel threatened by this new Progressive crowd so your lashing out at it irrationally, quite like a cornered animal.

    Get ready O'Reilly, with your help the neoconservative movement is soon to go the way of the Whigs.

  •  O Reilly is a disgrace to the media (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    jackieca, kyril

    Why anyone pays attention to him at all is the question.

    Bill, go watch Keith Olbermann and learn. Talk to John Stewart again and learn.
    Read Daily Kos and learn.

    Do a little survey, Bill Oreilly, of your viewers and Daily Kos readers. See who is really informed about events in this country.

    I doubt the results would surprise you though. You know you're a lying shill, Mr O Reilly. You know you don't really give a damn about this country, only yourself.

    We care about our country, Bill O Reilly. Our pockets may not be as full as yours are -- but we give a damn. You don't.

  •  "O'Reilly: is bull." (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    kyril

    Freudian Slip much, Unique?

    Nope. Not much.

    I'm the person your mother warned you about.

    by Unique Material on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:03:46 AM PDT

  •  we wanted tony to 'die" ??? (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Coherent Viewpoint, kyril

    where does oreilly get this kind of utter crap from?   does he sneak over here to DK and write it himself just so he can then complain that some idiot posted something on a blog tha the TU's might not have found and hidden?

    I think he does, and he asks other idiots (like him) to do the same....for instance I found a topic on an aol opinion board titled DELETED POST FROM KOS
    and then the post, sans any DK markings was posted on the AOl board.

    someone (not me) had the brilliant idea to ask the poster why he was complainin since he clearly stated that the post had been deleted (we call it hidden here) and the poster had no answer other then to continue whining that it had been posted here in the first place so I asked if the poster on AOL had posted the questionable missive himself since he had no other way of reading itsince it had been deleted and he wasnt a TU on DK and he obviously hadnt copied it from DK....

    still waiting for a response to that ?

    IMPEACH THE CHEERLEADER... SAVE THE WORLD! © ®

    by KnotIookin on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:03:49 AM PDT

  •  Is this causing an INCREASE in visitors at Dkos? (2+ / 0-)
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    Louise, kyril

    I would hope that O'Reilly is driving readers to the site, where they can see for themselves that BillO, as usual, is misrepresenting the truth.

    Hey, if any of you are one of BillO's viewers, welcome! Look around. See what's here, and feel free to tell us your opinion.

  •  That's hilarious (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Coherent Viewpoint, kyril

    BillOReilly.com will not be held liable for any user activity on the message boards. We do not actively monitor user-submitted content.

    Once again, Bill-O makes some asinine comment on his show that is totally refuted by a FIXED NEWS website -- in this case his the one for his own damn show!

    Remember his kerfuffle over the use of "holiday" instead of "Christmas", and yet the online store for FIXED NEWS had "holiday ornaments" for sale?

  •  Make the site all about Bill for a week (8+ / 0-)

    Bring out all the skeletons, all the shower stories.  Make it known to Bill that if he sends his viewers here they will find the truth, unvarnished, and try to make it fair and balanced (because it really doesn't have to be spun).  Do that and he'll leave Kos alone because he won't want his viewers to see the truth, most importantly about him and Fox news.

    I'm a Second Amendment Liberal...and anyone that isn't has a pre-Bush mentality. It can happen here.

    by jrflorida on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:05:09 AM PDT

    •  Yes! This is a great idea. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      armadillo

      "Freedom of speech isn't something somebody else gives you. That's something you give to yourself." - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.

      by brenda on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:17:26 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  yeah, exactly (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      jrflorida

      stop defending DKos, we know this site is not about what he's saying its about, and just attack loofah falafel.  he is ripe for attacking.  we don't need defending so much as we need to scoff, sneer, and hit back way harder with the truth.

      Bionic orca maki, anyone?

      by itsbenj on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 11:03:38 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Then, Sean Hannity Week (0+ / 0-)

      and so on down the evolutionary chain. I love it.

      This would need to have official status here to work. Maybe a permanent link in the sidebar. Please?

      "Question authority and the authorities will question you." Now more than ever!
      Hey, Loyal Bushies - elections have consequences. Mostly for you.

      by armadillo on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 11:19:36 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  He's just making it up as he goes along. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mango, kyril

    I mean, what else do you expect?

    He knows he's lying. He knows we know he's lying. We know he knows we know he's lying.

    But, hey, if dKos is making enemies like this, then the whole left-wing netroots must be doing pretty well :)

    Senator Feingold: American Hero.

    by Basil on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:05:47 AM PDT

  •  I used to be a centrist ... (8+ / 0-)

    ... voting Republican, but I'm moving more to the left every day and voting Democratic just so I can be as far from Bill O'Reilly as politically possible. He's insane.

    "It does not require many words to speak the truth." -- Chief Joseph, native American leader (1840-1904)

    by highfive on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:06:02 AM PDT

    •  welcome! (4+ / 0-)

      Impeachment is not a Constitutional Crisis. Impeachment is the Cure for a Constitutional Crisis.-John Nichols

      by wishingwell on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:18:45 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  normally (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      highfive, Dauphin

      when I say someone is "insane", i just mean 'oh they've said something unreasonable', you know?  when i say this about bill o'reilly, i believe it 100%, the guy should be found legally insane. its like Fox found the crazy homeless guy from the subway, bought him a nice suit, a nice apt., and gave him a tv show.

      politics in this country seems to be rapidly devolving into the relatively sane vs. the goners like bill-o.  the rational part of his brain, if there was one, is just gone.

      Bionic orca maki, anyone?

      by itsbenj on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 11:07:47 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  He's not just "plain" stupid... (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Brooke In Seattle, boofdah, kyril

    He's a very special kind of stupid...

    George W. Bush... wiretapping the Amish since 2001...

    by ThatSinger on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:07:07 AM PDT

  •  O'Reilly and Conservatism's Brand of Hate (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Coherent Viewpoint, kyril

    Once again, O'Reilly confirms the central truth about conservatism's brand of hate:

    Whether the issue concerns gay Americans, 9/11, abortion, judicial appointments or political corruption, a seamless continuum of hate runs from today's Republican Party through to its most extreme proponents. And that means the GOP differs only in degree - not in kind - from the cartoonish and sometimes criminal likes of Ann Coulter, Fred Phelps or Eric Rudolph.

  •  Why... (0+ / 0-)

    ...do we pay any attention to Bill O'Reilly?  

    "...the big trouble with dumb bastards is that they are too dumb to believe there is such a thing as being smart." -- Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

    by Roddy McCorley on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:07:54 AM PDT

  •  O'Reilly is hate shaped like a man (3+ / 0-)

    And if Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it. We're going to say, look, every other place in America is off limits to you, except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead.

    "If that man had an enema, he could've been buried in a matchbox." - Christopher Hitchens, referring to Jerry Falwell

    by Hannibal on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:08:03 AM PDT

  •  Why bother? (0+ / 0-)

    Really.  Why bother looking at this stuff, reading about his lies and hate, or posting to each other?

    We are all, including me, wasting our time.

    We are not going to educate anyone blathering to each other about what an ape ORelley is.

    (By the way, does he know that "primate" is a Catholic church term for an archbishop or leader within the Church hierarchy?  Aside, of course, from being a perfectly accurate scientific statement about every human being on earth?)

    Maybe some of us can log on to the Fox web site, and challenge his lies?  Maybe we can do that if we can be sure that Fox security can't find out where we live?

    Maybe then we can wean some minimally intelligent viewers, if there are any, away from his hate and lies.  Otherwise, what's the point?

    "A judicious questioning of the obvious may well be a mark of genius." David Lindley

    by Noziglia on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:10:45 AM PDT

  •  Can we stop these threads? (0+ / 0-)

    FOX News and Bill O'Reilly are beasts who feed off the attention of the masses.  Stop giving it to them!

    How can we all stand here and say "It's nonsense! It's hypocrisy! It's not worth paying attention to!" and then refute each incident and talking point like they were even worth addressing?

    Instead of incessantly discussing why they're all irrelevant, lets focus on the prize and make it even more true.

    •  No! (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      vees, Coherent Viewpoint, LanceBoyle

      It's fun, and we get to be self-righteous and indignant and indulge in pointless navel-gazing!

      We have never been at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

      by kyril on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:30:53 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  No, you can't stop those threads (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      vees

      It just isn't possible in an open forum, though you can keep these things to a minimum. And we ought not to ignore Bill-O because he is a genuine threat. Smear campaigns do work and do cause real damage.

      I think that our best response should be two-fold. We should ridicule him and then expose him.

      "Freedom of speech isn't something somebody else gives you. That's something you give to yourself." - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.

      by brenda on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:21:51 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Gosh, we must be getting so many (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    jackieca, armadillo, kyril

    new users out of this!

    Keep it up, Bill -- you're a one-man Daily Kos recruitment drive!

  •  Attention O'Reilly web crawlers: (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Terre, kyril

    Bill called. He needs you back at the office, pronto. Something about a falafel spill on aisle 7.

    There's one way to find out if a man is honest - ask him. If he says, "Yes," you know he is a crook. ~Groucho Marx

    by Busted Flat in Baton Rouge on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:15:00 AM PDT

  •  It's not hypocrisy (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    brenda, kyril

    It's propaganda.

    "Control of the initiative is control of the battle. In the alley, at the poker table or in politics. One must raise." David Mamet

    by coral on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:15:47 AM PDT

  •  O'Reilly saying it's OK by him if San Francisco.. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Coherent Viewpoint, kyril

    ... is attacked by terrorists was wishing people dead.

    Who the Hell is he to say that wishing someone dead is unacceptable?

    http://mediamatters.org/...

  •  Send you minions! (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    kyril

    Thanks Billo for all the exposure.  If he can actually convice a portion his demo to come here and read, and learn, maybe some can be brought out of their slumber.  Not much of a chance, but if they come and actually see that what he describes as a "hate" site is really just constructive conversation, they may ask themselves, "what else is he lying about".

    It's no mistake he doesn't mention Keith Olbermann or Countdown by name because he fears they may check it out due to curiosity. Keepin' 'em ignert is his best defense and he may have blown it on this one.

  •  Don't waste time on O'Reilly (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    pmob5977

    ...He is a wingnut blowhard that has no credibility.  The people who listen to him are "lost" and will not vote for the Dems anyway.

  •  Looks like Wildebeast has 4600+ posts. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Coherent Viewpoint, kyril

    So I'd say it's not a random commenter. But that's beside the point.

    This man sniffs Ann Coulters' tailpipe. He invites her on his show as a guest. She of the fantasy NY Times bombing. He simply has zero credibility on hate speech by any standard. (And, apparently, zero understating of how blogging works -- or expects that his viewers do not.)

    But even that is not the main problem. The problem is JetBlue, and companies like them, and the perception of where power lies. We of DailyKos etc. are younger, better educated, and, frankly, have more disposable income than most of O'Reilly's fading viewers. By any common sense standards of business practice, they should be catering to us, not them.

  •  I'm sorry if others have pointed this out (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    kyril

    but the Pope IS a primate.  So is Bill O'Reilly, so was Charles Manson.  Other famous primates include Leonardo DaVinci, Dr. Jonas Salk and Sir Isaac Newton.  Not so famous primates include me, my barber and all the Orangutans in Indonesia.  

    "Unrestricted immigration is a dangerous thing -- look at what happened to the Iroquois." Garrison Kellor

    by SpiderStumbled22 on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:17:57 AM PDT

  •  O'Reilly has officially jumped the shark. n/t (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Coherent Viewpoint
  •  The biggest problem with O'Lielly's own open (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    kyril

    forum, is that his viewers won't bother to come to this site to see for themselves.  They just believe his bullshit and react to it, by HATING anything to do with Daily Kos.

    He's villifying this site and it's users.  It's a very dangerous game he's playing and I think we should all be very aware of the point of this game.  I do believe it's to set the stage to shut us down because this mass communication with the truth is their biggest fear.

    We must get the message out that this site does not tolerate hate speech of any kind, nor does it tolerate any threats of violence.

    PEACE IS WHAT MOST OF US ARE HERE FOR!

    O'LIELLY IS A LYING DOG.  But that's just my opinion.

  •  Disingenous... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    kyril

    ...to the core of his creepy little loofah.  Or is that falafel?  Sorry Mr. O'Reilly, sexual harrassers have no credibility here.  Shall we list the details?

    The glass in your house is mighty thin.

    Help make history - HILLARY in 2008!

    by Caldonia on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:22:16 AM PDT

  •  We are definitly in the final stages of (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    jackieca, Coherent Viewpoint

    what Ghandi said:

    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

    O'Rielly may be feeling the heat from Fox to attack Daily Kos because of Yearly Kos and the fact that so many politicians are attending that event.  I get the feeling this worries them.  This is where they are in the stage..."then they fight you".  

    It's another tactic of "changing the subject".  Or, labeling the "dirty liberals".  It's old, tired, worn out propaganda.  Their getting desperate and it shows.

    Bush's Last Day - 01-20-2009 -6.25 -5.85

    by pmob5977 on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:26:05 AM PDT

  •  I think he is genuinely (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    jackieca, BigBite

    a pathological liar.  I mean clinically.  I'm no psych professional, but I do know that one aspect of the disorder is that many people don't even know when they're lying anymore.  I had a neighbor once who had the problem.  It wasn't possible to believe a word he said.

    Or maybe I'm just making excuses for O'Reilly because I can't bear the idea that people like him, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity and Michael Savage are real.

  •  What was O'Rielly doing before 2000? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    jackieca

    I mean seriously.  Some of these hacks have made some serious cash off of republicans, especially the religious right.  They are the traveling circus flim-flam con artists.  They'll sell you a bottle that will cure all your ailments as they pack their tent for the next town of fools.

    Bush's Last Day - 01-20-2009 -6.25 -5.85

    by pmob5977 on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:30:04 AM PDT

  •  I am really tired... (0+ / 0-)

    OF all the mental gymnastics and self congratulatory commenting going on here.
    In the last couple of days the O'Reilly Factor has probably TRIPLED it's number of eyeballs due to the constant beating of the drums from both sides over this non-issue.

    I SO want to see this conversation on his program:

    O'Reilly: Daily Kos= Nazi Party and KKK
    Guest: Ok, if that's what you want to believe....

    silence

    O'Reilly: Kos want's Tony Snow to die!!
    Guest: If you read DailyKos and that's what you come away with, that's fine. I have no problem with that.
    silence

    See?

    You can make a more effective argument for this dreadful kind of invective by first PLACING THE BURDEN OF THE BELIEF ON THE PERSON MAKING THE CLAIM and second, infer their lack of intellectual ability by not refuting the original premise.

    The benefit of this kind of discussion is that it takes away the validity of the original proposition: Kos=Hategroup= bad busineess for JetBlue and puts the burden of illogical conclusion back on the instigator.

    This endless parade of people kow-towing to O'Reilly is maddening, and he's got to be laughing at all the furor it's causing, along with the nice bump in visibility.

    I'd so like to see this kind of idiocy disappear,
    FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT
    so we can get back to the business of hauling this country out of the mess it's in.

    david.sf

  •  Notice a recent flurry of commenters (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    chanbo

    presenting inaccurate and misleading information on topics dear to neocon hearts, shutting down discussion with hostile and insulting comments, and reluctant to criticize the administration. Coincidence?

    Among a people generally corrupt, liberty cannot long exist. - Edmund Burke

    by Deep Harm on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:30:43 AM PDT

  •  Once again, liberals are on the defensive.... (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    brenda, factbased

    because they consistent underestimate the willingness of those on the right to use any means necessary to attack and smear them.

    It is obvious that DailyKos is now being taken as a serious threat by republicans--serious enough to send in one of the first-stringers with a blatantly dishonest smear attack. The o'lielly assault is such a complete fabrication, that I know the original response from most liberals was to shrug it off because they couldn't imagine that anyone would believe such transparently bogus nonsense.

    And thus we get the usual liberal response--a patient, somewhat defensive recitation of facts which nibble at the edge of the issue, but fail to confront it head on. I watched the Hilary campaign guy's appearance on o'lielly's show, and I just cringed at his stammering, wavering comments.

    Isn't there anyone in the liberal community who will go on there and call bill a liar to his face?

    •  Ahem... (0+ / 0-)

      I assume that one would have to be invited onto Bill-O's show.  Do you really think they're going to allow someone who might actually be persuasive to out-yak Falafel Boy™?

      •  He did have someone on.... (0+ / 0-)

        from Hilary's campaign, and as soon as bill started reading the "hate comments", the guy started to back down, I thought. It seemed to me it should have been relatively simple to get out the correct information, rather than get bogged down in discussing it on bill's terms.

        Start off with: bill, this is a completely dishonest representation and you are lying to the american people--and then go from there to point out the details.

        By starting off with, well, it isn't REALLY a hate site, you validate o'lielly's entire premise--now you're just haggling over the details.

    •  I'm sure there are bigger, better ways (0+ / 0-)

      but one way I'll help out in my little way is to wear my YearlyKos t-shirt in regular rotation. It's a good conversation starter. I try to wear it while flying, but so far nobody has seemed to notice there. A good book can work though - Crashing The Gate, The Great Unraveling, The God Delusion, etc.

      Of course if BillO is reading this and invites me on, I'll stand up to him for as long as my mic is on. And if you don't hear from me again, it's because Fox News Security has taken me off to one of their secret prisons. ;)

    •  A Call To Arms (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      brenda, Coherent Viewpoint, Dauphin

      "And thus we get the usual liberal response--a patient, somewhat defensive recitation of facts which nibble at the edge of the issue, but fail to confront it head on. I watched the Hilary campaign guy's appearance on o'lielly's show, and I just cringed at his stammering, wavering comments."

      Yes, what you've described is the standard play from the Mainstream Liberal Playbook, and I for one am so disgusted by this weak-kneed, lilly-livered display. There is no higher ground in this battle, and it is a battle. Taking the high road when dealing with these fiends gets one nowhere fast. Invite Bill's listeners over here? Yeah, for what? You think those knuckledraggers are available to reason? You think they'll come here and get religion? Oh, wait, religion's the thing that's got them twisted anyway. Remember, his minions believe Hussain was responsible for the attacks of 9/11. How are you gonna deal with that, huh? Get a grip, folks, you can't reach these nutcases. Write them off.

      So, now what? Everyone here is gonna go all Miss Manners in their behavior? Be all quiet-like so as not to bring further attention to ourselves. Too late for that. All the big talk that's been going on here, well, you had to know something like this was inevitable. Let's figure out a way to take this imbecile on and take him down. Or do y'all enjoy being punk'd by this fool?

      Since the dark days of the "Gingrich revolution", when right-wing talk radio really blew-up big time, it's been open season on Liberals, and for the most part Liberals have been far too compliant and acquiescent regarding the ceaseless abuse by conservatives. Only too willing to lay down and roll over like some defeated prison bitch. Presently, there is a score of progressives (Liberals, to me, are still be lost causes) who seem to be made of sterner stuff, and who are just itching for a fight. So, those scumbag sons-of-bitches who take their marching orders from O'Reilly/Savage/Hannity/Ingram/Limbaugh, et al, and their masters themselves, want a culture war, then the war starts here right now.

      Sure, Murdoch could crush this site and not even register the amount of money it would cost him to do so. BUT, taking on the loofa sugar-daddy doesn't mean getting on the bad side of Rupert. There is enough ammunition in Bill's casefile to mount a sustained attack against him. Not slander, not libel. Facts. Grow some balls, people. The other side wants to take you down, and you'd better believe it. Either try to beat them at their own game or shut the fuck up.

      I am in a world of shit, yes, but I am alive, and I am not afraid.- Pvt Joker

      by Hudsonview on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:08:18 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Bill-O's smears are meant for others not us (0+ / 0-)

        They are meant to serve as a warning to corporations. "If you step out of line this will happen to you too." Bill is a serious threat. We need to push back and push back hard.

        "Freedom of speech isn't something somebody else gives you. That's something you give to yourself." - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.

        by brenda on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:32:24 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Explaining Catholicism (0+ / 0-)

    I find it amusing that a bunch of atheist, hippie, pink-o, commie libruls like us have to explain Catholicism to a wingnutter Irishman like Bill-O.

  •  Hatred? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Coherent Viewpoint

    I saw more hate in that clip than I ever have on this site. Hatred of the left, hatred of free speech, hatred of logic, hatred of truth, hatred of consistency and most of all, hatred of the new media that is challenging his authoritarian top-down power structure.

  •  WTF: We're KKK & Nazi's? How's that? And I'm a (0+ / 0-)

    moderate conservative who is a registered independent that identifies with the Green Party. I blog here.  I'm not an ultra-right wing nationalist conservative, or a religious-fascist conservative, or a crazy let's all take over the world NeoCon conservative.

    WTF:   WE AREN'T LEFT WING NUTS!!!!!!!

    80 percent of success is just showing up - Woody Allen.

    by Churchill on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:34:05 AM PDT

  •  "is he just plain stupid?" (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    John H

    YES

  •  Can I just say (0+ / 0-)

    that "ALRIGHT" is not a word, and all the transcribers out there need to stop spelling it that way. It's ALL RIGHT, two words.

    Geez, I'm so tired of all the stupidity in this world.

    It doesn't matter what someone SAYS -- look the damn thing up if you aren't sure how to spell it. It says right there in my dictionary "non-standard." That means, don't use it.

    Of course, coming from O'Lie-ly, why would I expect correctness of any kind.

  •  O'Reilly Brings Traffic, And They Can See (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Coherent Viewpoint, DWSUWF

    DK for themselves.  Other than the defensive messages we post here because of Bill, I doubt most people would find this site anything like what O'Reilly describes.  Of course, he has his share of ditto heads that will repeat and repeat the message.  Bill and those folks have been leading Americans down the wrong path for the last 7 years, repeating the message without thinking and shouting down anyone who disagrees and calling them traitors.  But, the more people who come, and probably also eventually join, the better.

    We're an open and great community of common citizens, though diverse in values, means, backgrounds and experiences.  We value free speech and all those values for liberty and freedom that our founding fathers and mothers put into the Constitution and that people like O'Reilly trample on every day with their vile attacks and labels and words against anyone who disagrees with them.  These are the same values that Americans have died for in wars not started to get oil, or just to create popularity and the opportunity to impose unAmerican laws upon our Constitutional system, but to preserve fundamental liberty and human rights.  Wars against fascism and the kind of people who want to squash liberty in America, like Mr. O'Reilly - who uses lies, exaggerations and false emotional arguments to whip up sentiments rather than reason and truthful dialogue and respect for vigorous differences by valuing free speech.

    Mr. O'Reilly seems to promote values that are unAmerican.  But that is the beauty of our country Bill, you're welcome to do that.  Your controversy brings us success, as people see for themselves that you're a fool.  And that's, quite honestly, not a bad tradeoff.

    Sure people get passionate here, no doubt.  It's the nature of real politics, not the fake politics that airs on the Faux network.  Long live the Constitution and the diversity of views that is America and Daily Kos.  I would say we represent the true values of the founders much more than anything even vaguely available on the Faux Propaganda Network.  Faux is like a new version of the old PRAVDA, spouting the GOP party line every day and telling people what they can and cannot think.  I think Democrats, progressives and libertarian minded independents and Republicans will find this a much better community than anything on the Right.  And they will get more and better information here than anywhere on FAUX.  But they are welcome to digest the Faux Networks garbage too:  People are allowed to misinform themselves, even vigorously if they want.  That's America.  

    So let's give a big welcome to all of our many new visitors and members, who want to engage in vigorous discussion so that we can all reach a better consensus and understanding of the world through our common desire to discuss and egage one another.  Thanks Bill.  You're doing us and America a favor by talking about us and building us up.  Your theater may be deceptive and filled with fear, but it is very entertaining.  Go enjoy a Loofa scrub somewhere, and keep up the good work promoting us.

  •  Prediction: Bill-O goes supernova this year (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    jackieca, xxdr zombiexx

    Stand back everyone, this guy's about to explode.

    "I call 'em as I see 'em."--the late Hall of Fame umpire Bill Klem.

    by Dump Terry McAuliffe on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:39:36 AM PDT

  •  Represensible Propaganda (0+ / 0-)

    Someone needs to ask the democratic candidates whether this level of lying, factual inaccuracies and distortion should legally be allowed to represent itself on a "news" channel.

    If we need warning labels on bottles of aspirin, why don't we have warning labels on the toxicity of liars like O'Reilly?

  •  Just like Trump and Rosie spat - publicity hound? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    LanceBoyle

    The more we cover his comments, the stronger he becomes.  Just like Trump, he becomes more outrageous to suck you in.  Has this site become part of his PR machine for ratings as he recognizes its power? How many of you are boosting his ratings by listening to him waiting to hear what he will say next?  Hopefully, it is helping this site as well.  I don't want to play this game.  Look at all the diaries and comments with his name in them.

    •  Opposite Effect I think (0+ / 0-)

      We are not a mass media network.  Our viewers are not likely to go listen to him when we can catch the relevant, reprehensible snippits online, without watching the horrible television he generates.  Our users are also more sophisticated.

      So I doubt we are flocking to Faux to watch him because he is mentioned here.  I doubt visitors here not driven by O'Reilly are then going off to watch O'Reilly.  You have to type DailyKos.com into the browser to get here, it doesn't just fall into your consciousness when you turn on your television.

      So I disagree.  The opposite argument to his driving traffic here does not apply to his television show nor his web site.  Many people who do watch his show, do not agree with him, but probably have never heard of DailyKos.  Now they, and others who watch his show, will visit.  They are welcome to gain a refreshing new opportunity to learn from other ordinary people, not paid media shills.

  •  You can expect more from Billo (0+ / 0-)

    This is a smear campaign and there will be more. Bill was getting his ass handed to him by Keith Olberman and has decided to pick on someone that he thinks he can push around. Bullys are like that.

    Bill has also probably been directed by Fox to do this, though I doubt he needed much persuasion. In general, attacks from the right will only escalate and when you think they can't get worse they will get worse. If allowed they will even escalate to the point of physical violence.

    We should fight back as strongly as we can and we need to start now. We should also pursue any legal options open to us. We must fight back, we must respond.

    "Freedom of speech isn't something somebody else gives you. That's something you give to yourself." - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.

    by brenda on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 09:58:31 AM PDT

  •  I got it. (0+ / 0-)

    I finally figured out where Oblivion is.

    I've always wondered, where do the troll comments go?.

  •  According to MSN's dictionary (0+ / 0-)

    A "primate" is a high archbishop. I didn't actually have to look that up.  But, Mr. O'Reilly should have.

    Among a people generally corrupt, liberty cannot long exist. - Edmund Burke

    by Deep Harm on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:04:23 AM PDT

  •  No shock and awe here (0+ / 0-)

    I'm not surprised that a Neanderthal like O'Reilly finds us objectionable. He once again has gone on the the air making outrageous comments in search of other knuckle draggers to fire up with lies and misquotes.

  •  MSNBC is in a War with O'Reilly..... (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    jackieca, armadillo

    I guess it is now KOS' turn.  If you look at the bigger picture, Fox is going after all the left wing TV and Blogging right now, and their paranoia is massive right now.  That tells me -- we're doing something right.

  •  Actionable? (0+ / 0-)

    "Because this is hate of the worst order. It's like the Ku Klux Klan. It's like the Nazi Party."

    I know that at a certain level O'Reilly would crave the publicity, but I would love to see them (O'Reilly and Fox) have to defend that in court. Given that O'Reilly's motive was to cause financial harm (loss of advertising sponsors) to a private business enterprise it would seemingly be a slam dunk case.

  •  Die? (0+ / 0-)

    More like we just want to kick them in the nuts. ...forever.

  •  Battling Bill (0+ / 0-)

    The JetBlue sponsorship is definitely an interesting development that's worth discussing but I'd prefer it if Bill's quotes (and those of his viewers) and video clips were left on Fox news where they belong. I'd prefer to see this space used for more constructive topics.

  •  Who Is This Right Wing Brady Lady From (0+ / 0-)

    Business Week?  No doubt a graduate of Jerry Falwell's Liberty University.  We all know what she had to do with Jerry to get her degree.

  •  technical issue (0+ / 0-)

    i've increasingly been getting the following error when I try to click on a link from the RSS feed on my igoogle page.  any ideas?
    HTTP Status 400 -

    type Status report

    message

    description The request sent by the client was syntactically incorrect ().
    Apache Tomcat/5.0.28

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