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While I am glad to see no one on this site has brought themselves down to the illustrious Bill O'Reilly's level, nonetheless there has been a virtually constant stream of diaries concerning Bill's attack on Daily Kos.

It is significant to note that in his attack, O'Reilly is not simply attacking this website, but the larger community which ultimately IS this website. And it is not unreasonable that people would be angered by such an attack, and respond to it defensively and offensively.

But here's the thing.

Feeding a guy like O'Reilly is just bad strategy.  Every time one of the front pagers posts another "new" "startling" hypocrisy by O'Reilly, we are simply feeding the beast.

I guarantee O'Reilly is sitting in his office right now, looking at the front page and grinning wildly, while he rubs his hands together in mock tribute to some cartoon villain from his childhood.  He's looking at the numerous diaries with glee, for we are providing him with more and more content for his own uses.

Do you think O'Reilly is going to shoot straight with his audience? Or will he cherry pick through the diaries and comments to make our defense look as mean, evil, and hypocritical as he truly is?

Yes, yes, I hear some of you out there arguing that you don't care how O'Reilly's audience views us, since they'll never get an unprejudiced look at us anyway.  If that is so, then who are we writing all of these diaries for? Each other? Why? To prove we're not like O'Reilly says we are?

I just don't think all of this is really necessary, and therefore I ask my fellow Kossacks to have patience, to remember the playground (the place O'Reilly learned his techniques from), and remember we ALL outgrew O'Reilly a long, long time ago.

IMHO, what kos should have done was put out a simple press release stating his objection to O'Reilly's characterization of the site, and add a link to the FAQ, which has some really cool rules that, unlike most rules, make O'Reilly's lies appear even more ridiculous.

For instance, from the FAQ:

Diaries which engage in wild speculation without any proof are strongly discouraged. Repeatedly posting diaries consisting largely or entirely of wild speculation is an abuse of site policy. Bear in mind that that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
.   .   .
Diarists are strongly encouraged to back up all assertions with facts (and preferably links to supporting materials) whenever possible. Use reputable sources whenever possible. If you can't find a reputable source that supports your position, then perhaps reconsider writing your diary.
.   .   .
Deliberately inflammatory titles, or titles which contain attacks, are prohibited. Also, while this site doesn't prohibit profanity, please think very carefully before using any curse words in a diary title.

It is not even necessary to point out the standard "no hate speech" rules you'll find on this site, and most other user-contribution sites, as these particular rules I've quoted above spell out, in very plain language, what truly lies at the heart and soul of this community.

Continue to feed O'Reilly, if you feel you must.  I understand the very human need to refute in the strongest possible terms his lies and attempted character assassination of every person who belongs to this site. It is difficult not to react in kind to hatred.

I think this community can hold itself to a higher standard than one of pure reaction, even if we color it to ourselves as pure refutation.  There are many excellent, cogent diaries on this subject, and I do not intend to detract from any of them.  But I believe in reacting as we have, we merely feed the beast that is Bill O'Reilly.

Originally posted to CinDan on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:58 AM PDT.

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  •  So, (9+ / 0-)

    is this diary feeding the best that's feeding the beast that it O'Reilly?

    Should I start my diary arguing against your diary whcih argues against....

    Will all great Neptunes ocean wash the blood clean from his hand? No,his hand will rather the multitudinous seas incarnadine,making the green one red.

    by TheBlaz on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:51:05 AM PDT

  •  We should just send Billo some free falafel (2+ / 0-)
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    CinDan, Hannibal

    and be done with it.  I'd donate 5 bucks + $.75 for the extra hummus.

    "It's the CONSTITUTION, stupid!"

    by DaveV on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:51:29 AM PDT

  •  Bill really is a troll, isn't he? (2+ / 0-)
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    CinDan, BachFan

    You raise a very good point. Only give recipes to trolls. Anything else makes them roar louder.

    What if we all flooded BillO's email with recipes for trollhouse cookies and the like?

  •  disagree on this point: (3+ / 0-)
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    CinDan, TheBlaz, Kronos Blue

    I guarantee O'Reilly is sitting in his office right now, looking at the front page and grinning wildly, while he rubs his hands together in mock tribute to some cartoon villain from his childhood.

    i think he's sitting in his office right now trying to figure out the difference between a loofah and falafel.

    "If impeachment is off the table, so is democracy." -teacherken

    by Laurence Lewis on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:55:00 AM PDT

  •  Actually (2+ / 0-)
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    pb, PatsBard

    dKos is winning this.  Check the sitemeter (not that I know how, but someone reported it today).  Traffic here is getting a serious bump, and as we know from previous bumps, a lot of that traffic stays when this dies down.

    Orally, on the other hand, is slipping into irrelevance.  

    I guarantee O'Reilly is sitting in his office right now, looking at the front page and grinning wildly, while he rubs his hands together in mock tribute to some cartoon villain from his childhood.  He's looking at the numerous diaries with glee, for we are providing him with more and more content for his own uses.

    Mark Twain -Let me make the superstitions of a nation and I care not who makes its laws or its songs either.

    by Kingsmeg on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 10:57:54 AM PDT

  •  Where does he find these comments? (1+ / 0-)
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    OrdinaryGal

    Unerringly zeroes in on bizzarre comments that must be trashed here also as unacceptable.  I don't think I've ever been in a thread/diary where there's been anything close to what he pulls out.

  •  Billo is probably too busy chatting it up (0+ / 0-)

    (unsuccessfully, no doubt) with the Secret Service guys to be paying too much attention to what's on DKos right now.

    If he doesn't believe in open forums, then he has taken direct responsibility for every death threat and threat of violence on his web site.

    O'Reilly: You know, you can... Look, I have my own web site. We don't... open forum is bull. Alright? You can regulate what's on your web site.

    From KagroX's FP story

    Primary elections: Vote for the Democrat you prefer; General elections: Vote for the Democrat. There's nothing difficult about this, people.

    by PatsBard on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 11:04:09 AM PDT

  •  Here here! 1,000 recs. (0+ / 0-)

    Yeah no offense to anyone who has posted because there have been some very, very thoughtful and entertaining diaries on everyone's favorite neo-con mouthpiece. But he hasn't gotten so much attention since the loofah incident and to be honest, there's enough going on in Congress right now that our time would be better spent on people and issues that matter.

    O'Reilly will always be O'Reilly and he's picking on us in the Kos community because he gets a laugh out of getting us riled up. I'm not giving him the satisfaction anymore.

    www.opedna.com
    "I mean, people have access to health care in America. After all, you just go to an emergency room."-Bush

    by GirlZero on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 11:13:46 AM PDT

  •  Wouldn't it be funny if Bill had a Kos account? (0+ / 0-)

    And was writing instigatory diaries about himself?

    He's not above it, and since Kos doesn't charge members like O'Reilly does, he could certainly afford it.

    www.opedna.com
    "I mean, people have access to health care in America. After all, you just go to an emergency room."-Bush

    by GirlZero on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 11:15:50 AM PDT

  •  Agreed-- Ignore this Pathetic (1+ / 0-)
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    GirlZero

    retard-- and he will be of the air in one year.

    Cerberus: In Greek mythology, the three-headed watchdog who guards the entrance to the lower world, the Hades.

    by Superpole on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 11:27:44 AM PDT

  •  if we limit our speech ,he Wins!!Just kidding (1+ / 0-)
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    doinaheckuvanutjob

    but my point is ,he is making some feel inhibited and that aint right.There is nothing remotely hateful or hurtful on kos.

    have we hit bottom yet?

    by eddienic on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 11:32:35 AM PDT

  •  It's all an act (because dkos is successful) (0+ / 0-)

    It's all an act, as BO confessed to Colbert, in real life BO is a really nice, sweet guy. So nice that he feeds his pet pirrhanna the best table scraps.

    The only reason he's on this anti DK campaign is because DK is working, it's successful. Otherwise BO would be focusing on some other imaginary demon to ensure Rethug rule.

    So, bring it on, BO. Keep 'em coming. I welcome his attention. I don't need to feed BO, he feeds himself. Everything here is transparent.

    Here, Bill, have a donut; we are generous and kind here and share our food with visitors.

    Children in the U.S... detained [against] intl. & domestic standards." --Amnesty Internati

    by doinaheckuvanutjob on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 01:30:26 PM PDT

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