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SurveyUSA. 7/26-29. Registered voters. (2/12-13 results)

Coleman (R) 49 (57)
Franken (DFL) 42 (35)

Coleman (R) 48 (57)
Ciresi (DFL) 42 (34)

That's a dramatic shift in support in just five months, and we've still got well over a year to go.

Same goes for incumbent Republicans in Maine, Oregon, and elsewhere -- early GOP leads will continue to evaporate as Republicans remain attached to George Bush's hip and refuse to end the war and stymie the rest of the destructive Bush agenda.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 08:43 AM PDT.

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Comment Preferences

  •  This is going to be fun to watch. (9+ / 0-)

    Make us proud Franken!

  •  Any polls re (0+ / 0-)

    Franken vs. Ciresi?

    That is quite an interesting race for those of us who have read or listened to Franken.

    9/11 didn't change the Constitution!

    by Prof Dave on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 08:37:47 AM PDT

  •  What's the explanation (3+ / 0-)

    of how a state famous for liberals and progressives has such an easy time supporting a hack like Coleman.  How can this guy even be ahead?  What has happened to Minnesota?

    "No matter how cynical you are, you can't keep up." -- Woody Allen

    by robokos on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 08:37:47 AM PDT

    •  Coleman (2+ / 0-)
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      moosely2006, Bridge Master

      He was carried in the wave of 2002 - and Minnesota isn't quite as progressive as it used to be, we've only narrowly carried it both times.

      "We will show him the way" Jim Webb

      by DukieDem on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 08:38:53 AM PDT

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      •  And the question is (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        KansasLiberal

        why??  What has changed about Minnesotans?

        "No matter how cynical you are, you can't keep up." -- Woody Allen

        by robokos on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 08:43:22 AM PDT

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        •  It hasn't changed that much (2+ / 0-)
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          Superribbie, Bridge Master

          Minnesota Democrats have been set back by a combination of very bad luck (i.e. Wellstone plane crash) and tactical mistakes (poor candidates, the fiasco that was the Wellstone memorial service).  We made huge gains in the state house and Senatein 2006 and have near veto-proof majorities in both, and would have the governership if our candidate (another mistake) hadn't called a reporter a "whore" 3 days before the election.  

          When asked if someone put a gun to his head and told him to vote for either Gore or Bush, which he would choose, Nader answered without hesitation: "Bush"

          by Mia Dolan on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 09:01:19 AM PDT

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          •  The Wellstone Funeral "fiasco" (9+ / 0-)

            wasn't a tactical mistake.  It was a deliberate Republican smear.  Wingers got on the radio an television and lied about what went on at the funeral -- period.

            Cry "Mandate!" and let slip the hounds of accountability.

            by sagra on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 09:05:22 AM PDT

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            •  Yes and No (5+ / 0-)

              The Democrats held a memorial service to express their grief and to mourn their hero.  They did not consider the political ramifications of the service, while the Republicans did, and shamelessly exploited the memorial service for political gain.  Whether or not you can fault the Democrats for that, I don't know.  It was a very tough time.

              The booing of Republican politicians coming to pay respects was completely shameful.  Mark Dayton apologized for this on the floor of the Senate.  I don't know if you saw Rick Khan's speech, but that was beyond a train wreck.  I realize it was a close friend of Wellstone's who was devasted by the loss, but it was a disaster.  Maybe this goes into the bad luck rather than tactical mistake category.  

              The Republicans were shameful in exploiting the service, but we gave them the opening.  

              When asked if someone put a gun to his head and told him to vote for either Gore or Bush, which he would choose, Nader answered without hesitation: "Bush"

              by Mia Dolan on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 09:23:34 AM PDT

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              •  I vote for bad luck (0+ / 0-)

                The Wellstone 'memorial fiasco' was a classic case of Republican psyschological projection. What would the Karl Rove types in that scenario do? Milk it for political gain. So what did they assume the Democrats were doing? Milking it for political gain.

                Anyone with the slightest knowledge of how that ceremony came together knows that the entire thing was guileless, put together without political calculation. Yes, it was a largely unorganized, unscripted free for all. You can either shake your head at their naivete or applaud their lack of cynicism.

                As for Rick Kahn, yes he was difficult to watch. But anyone with the slightest fiber of empathy could see that that man was quite literally deranged with grief. It's to the Republican's everlasting shame that they made him into a political punching bag.

                It's also worth noting that Coleman's margin of victory was less than 2%, about 40,000 votes. Not exactly an epic blowout considering that Mondale had all of week to run in Wellstone's place.

                Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx

                by Joe Bob on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 01:44:47 PM PDT

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                •  Very well said (0+ / 0-)

                  It's to the Republican's everlasting shame

                  Unfortunately, the Republicans have no shame whatsoever

                  When asked if someone put a gun to his head and told him to vote for either Gore or Bush, which he would choose, Nader answered without hesitation: "Bush"

                  by Mia Dolan on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 02:11:35 PM PDT

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            •  Very true, Franken talks about this... (0+ / 0-)

              in his book Lies.

              "The only thing I would trust Dick Cheney on is if I had a dead hooker in my hotel room." -Jon Stewart

              by Chris Brock on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 12:42:46 PM PDT

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          •  That wouldn't explain why (1+ / 0-)
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            KansasLiberal

            a hack like Coleman still holds a lead.  I think fundamental attitudes of Minnesotans must have changed?

            "No matter how cynical you are, you can't keep up." -- Woody Allen

            by robokos on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 09:16:19 AM PDT

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            •  Education (2+ / 0-)
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              Superribbie, Bridge Master

              Inner city schools suck and the Bible-belt schools aren't teaching logic.  Put those two things with the questionable capitalistic ethics of Bachmann's district, and there you have it.  Tax cuts desired by the wealthy, anti-choice desired by the Bible-belt around St. Cloud, and an education system gutted by Arne, Jesse, and this present cluck; there's the explanation.

              Plus, Coleman and Pawlenty don't seem nearly as bad as the idiot Repubs from other states.  We tolerate semi-crap for a long time unless a great motivation comes along to stir us out of apathy (see Boschwitz, Durenberger, et. al.).

              Enslave 10% of America. Save us the shipping charges from China.

              by bwide on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 09:44:16 AM PDT

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              •  It might be true (1+ / 0-)
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                Joe Bob

                that our educational system is not so hot, but I'd be willing to bet that Coleman does better among voters with MORE education, and the DFLers among those with less.  This is how it generally works, unfortunately.  A better answer is probably that the suburbs are growing in MN and the cities are not-- thus more Republican gains.

                •  Probably a nasty combination. (0+ / 0-)

                  I know quite a few people who, while despising Bush on social issues, voted for him because it benefited them economically.  

                  I do have to imagine, however, that the general degradation of the education system in Minnesota has led to a loss of empathetic and logical voters who would normally go Democrat.  Plus, the northern labor vote probably isn't as helpful as it once was.

                  Enslave 10% of America. Save us the shipping charges from China.

                  by bwide on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 10:17:47 AM PDT

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                •  it's the suburbs (0+ / 0-)

                  Coleman's core constituency is the suburbs of Minneapolis and Saint Paul. Outstate is mostly a wash. He gets blown out in the cities. In 2002 he won maybe 2 or 3 precincts in Minneapolis and a big fat zero in St. Paul. I remember looking at a map of election results where the Twin Cities metro area looked like a big red doughnut with a blue hole in the middle.

                  Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx

                  by Joe Bob on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 01:49:52 PM PDT

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            •  Well (0+ / 0-)

              Coleman is perceived as a moderate.  And neither Franken nor Ciresi are strong candidates.  

              When asked if someone put a gun to his head and told him to vote for either Gore or Bush, which he would choose, Nader answered without hesitation: "Bush"

              by Mia Dolan on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 11:02:00 AM PDT

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      •  Then again, it hasn't gone red since 1972 (1+ / 0-)
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        Bridge Master

        Including the only blue state in 1984!  

        That doesn't mean we can become complacent, but MN is not as much a swing state as some would suggest.  

        PS I don't think the Republicans having their conference in MN will have the effect of the Democrats in CO.  We're opening a gate to the West and they're just doing it because of Pawlenty.

        If the Republicans promise to stop telling lies about us, maybe we'll stop telling the truth about them..

        by Romaniac on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 09:08:14 AM PDT

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    •  MN has often had a split delegation (4+ / 0-)

      Minnesota has traditionally had a split delegation, having both a Democrat and a Republican senator (at least for most of my life). But a big reason Coleman is in the Senate is because Paul Wellstone was killed eleven days before the election in 2002. Polls showed Wellstone ahead at the time. The GOP media machine turned his memorial into faux outrage and poor Walter Mondale tried to fill the breech, but it wasn't enough with the wall-to-wall screeching about the bad Democrats (Franken has a chapter dedicated to this in his Lying Liars book).

      Are you shaking or biting the invisible hand?

      by puppethead on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 08:59:40 AM PDT

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    •  You may recall Paul Wellstone was campaigning (2+ / 0-)
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      Superribbie, Bridge Master

      in 2002 for another term as Senator when his plane crashed on October 25, 2002.

      The Dems needed to rush and get another candidate (I am reasonably certain Walter "Fritz" Mondale ran as a substitute.)

      Much was made of how the Dems tried to politicize the Wellstone funeral, and Coleman won.

      Paul Wellstone

      It is the province of knowledge to speak And it is the privilege of wisdom to listen. Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. US Jurist

      by Oliver W Holmes the 3rd on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 09:02:12 AM PDT

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  •  Viva Franken! (10+ / 0-)

    I really hope Al pulls this one out - I think he'd be a really thoughtful Senator and a dynamite campaigner.

    "We will show him the way" Jim Webb

    by DukieDem on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 08:37:58 AM PDT

  •  Good. We need a Veto Proof Senate that makes Joe (6+ / 0-)

    a full time Fox broadcaster.

  •  Pssst Kos (1+ / 0-)
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    Bridge Master

    Will I see you at this tomorrow in SF?

    Wednesday afternoon's big event at the Temple Nightclub is filling up and we want to be sure all of you have an opportunity to meet and greet John Edwards while he's in San Francisco.

    What: "Small Change for Big Change" grassroots fundraiser with John Edwards

    Where: Temple Nightclub - Prana Room, 540 Howard Street, San Francisco, CA 94105

    When: Wednesday, August 1 at 12:15 PM

    Tickets are $15 and there will be a cash bar at the event.

    When good people of conscience give up the fight for justice, all is lost. Therefore you must not give up. www.politicalartwork.blogspot.com

    by EmilyD on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 08:38:59 AM PDT

  •  "... we've still got well over a year to go." (0+ / 0-)

    That is a poignant statement you made, considering that a lot can happen in a political year! The rating may stay the same ... or change!!

    http://OsiSpeaks.com or http://OsiSpeaks.org

    •  Poignant? (0+ / 0-)

      More like "obvious" :)

    •  State Fair/Labor Day is start of season (2+ / 0-)

      Politics in Minnesota go into high gear with the kick-off of the State Fair, which occurs the week before and including Labor Day. This is when Minnesotans start focusing on the candidates, since they all spend time at the Fair and it's a big deal. I suspect we'll see Coleman's numbers drop even more after the Fair, when people start paying attention.

      When we start seeing Franken (or Ciresi) and Coleman engaging each other it won't even be a contest, Coleman's nothing but tired media slickness, while Ciresi and Franken have serious policy depth. Franken's quick wit and Ciresi's lawyering skills should both be enough to shred Coleman's TV facade, not unlike how Amy Klobuchar devastated Mark Kennedy.

      Are you shaking or biting the invisible hand?

      by puppethead on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 09:07:35 AM PDT

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      •  MN is Ripe (0+ / 0-)

        I live in Utter Exurbia and even some of my neighbors are turning.  The war is very unpopular and Coleman is wedded to Bush forever in the hearts and minds of anyone that's been paying attention.  Coleman is very likely to go down.

        It should be remembered, I think, that Coleman is a more polished and popular politician and considered more of a moderate and a populist than Kennedy was in 2006.  So, he will be harder to beat.  But Kennedy wasn't ever really in the race.

        "At this Juncture, People have hazy memories." -- Bush's Mouthpiece

        by DanielMN on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 09:29:13 PM PDT

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  •  Yeah, i would Love (6+ / 0-)

     to see Franken in Congress. Hope the momentum keeps him going up till election day.

  •  DFL? (0+ / 0-)

    What's that?

    Know your rights - all three of them!

    by Astoria Chris on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 08:39:39 AM PDT

  •  Wishing (0+ / 0-)

    Dreams do not make things come true...

  •  This is great news (2+ / 0-)
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    Bridge Master, Romaniac

    I would love to send Norm packing.

    Plugging my Diary here, I put out my July version of "The Big Board" a massive ranking of all 34 senate seats from least likely to flop party affiliation to most.

    Right now Coleman is my No. 3. Where does your Senator stack up?

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    Check out my new blog, dedicated to electing our boys in blue: An Enduring Democratic Majority

    by Skulnick on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 08:43:24 AM PDT

  •  As I have noted here before, once people get (3+ / 0-)

    past the right wing talking points Franken is a comedian, and they are able to hear him speak and articulate he views and vision for MN and America, I can not believe he would not trounce Coleman.

    Franken is well informed, intelligent, and his humor might suit the Senate well?

    I am NOT a Franken troll, I do not live in MN, I have not contributed to his campaign YET, and I will be unable to vote for him.

    It is the province of knowledge to speak And it is the privilege of wisdom to listen. Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. US Jurist

    by Oliver W Holmes the 3rd on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 08:43:56 AM PDT

  •  Here In Oregon (0+ / 0-)

    Although Senator Gordon Smith (R-OR), up for re-election in 2008, is trying desperately to sever his attachment to Bush and the Iraq War, to mixed reviews both among the public and the local punditry. He was certainly earnest in being the first or among the first Republican senators to rescind his earlier support, but the ultimate question before the voters will be whether his recantation will have been too little, too late.

    Smith is a fairly moderate Republican, a fairly straight-up guy by all accounts, who has bucked his party in a number of other instances as well, and he is not yet facing any serious Democratic challenger (all viable candidates have thus far declined to run against him, leaving only a relatively unknown attorney and activist from Portland, and possibly a state senator, in the race). Unless he does, his recantation may prove in time to have been early and sincere enough to carry him through the '08 election.

    •  Here In Oregon (0+ / 0-)

      Gordon Smith is a crafty politician, and has managed not to sound like the sort of Right Wing Nut that Oregonians tend to avoid. The real problem in getting him tossed out, however, is the lack of a "serious Democratic challenger" identified by StrangeAnimals. The best candidates have simply refused to step up, and the people stepping up just don't have the name recognition to make much progress.

      The state's only significant daily newspaper will undoubtedly support Smith wholeheartedly and absent some kind of scandal, he's probably good for another six years.

      •  Yes, barring a major misstep (0+ / 0-)

        Smith will be in the Senate as long as he wants to be.

        •  In Oregon, the DSCC has recruited (0+ / 0-)

          the Speaker of the Oregon House of Representatives
          Jeff Merkley
          link

          Oregon state House Speaker Jeff Merkley is expected to announce a challenge to Sen. Gordon Smith (R-Ore.) in the next week, ending national Democrats’ long search for a challenger in what they say is still a top-tier target.

          I think that Smith is still favored but he will now have to work for the reelection and it could turn into Chafee-Whitehouse all over again. Merkley though really sounds like he is looking to increase his state-wide id for a governor's run in 2010. This is good news as we have challengers in most of the top-tiered races.

  •  I really wish we had a better candidate here... (0+ / 0-)

    I have nothing against Al Franken: He's fun to listen to and a strong liberal voice. That said, neither he nor Ciresi is particularly well-positioned to beat Coleman. Correct me if I'm wrong, but to my knowledge neither has held public office before, and Franken in particular is a polarizing figure who won't attract much crossover voting from disaffected GOPers.

    •  My ex in-laws in rural western MN (6+ / 0-)

      who are moderate republicans (not bible thumpers and not ultra conservative) went to hear Al speak at my request.  They came away very impressed with how he handled himself, what he knew of farm issues, and sent him a campaign contribution.  They vote gop probably 90% of the time.

      I believe IF people spend the time to hear Franken, he is effective and credible.  Just my opinion.

      It is the province of knowledge to speak And it is the privilege of wisdom to listen. Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. US Jurist

      by Oliver W Holmes the 3rd on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 09:08:48 AM PDT

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      •  i LOVE frankin (0+ / 0-)

        esp for his rush book...
        But im sorry to say Im afraid he's Doomed because of his stance on the 2nd admendment/gun rights
        Remember the swing states we took last year, w/ pro gun dems????????????
        Ive heard al speak on guns & he sounds completely
        in-fu*king-sane

        Frivolity is a harsh taskmaster- B.Griffith

        by OMwordTHRUdaFOG on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 08:52:16 PM PDT

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  •  silly question (0+ / 0-)

    what is "DFL" ?


    "You cannot leave the rapist with the victim to serve as the therapist" - Iraqi journalist

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 08:49:24 AM PDT

  •  Quite the dilemma (1+ / 0-)
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    AlyoshaKaramazov

    If they stick with Bush, they sink.

    If they don't, then it looks like the Dems are "getting something done", which also makes them look not so good.

    Here's a novel concept:  How about thinking about what's good for the country, rather than just themselves?  Probably some of them are now so self-important that they can't tell the difference!

    Consider the pathetic John Doolittle (CA-04):

    The veteran congressman said that he's intent on running at least one more time because he wants to see a number of projects through to completion. Listing the widening of Interstate 80 at Roseville, the Folsom bridge and the American River pumping station near Auburn, Doolittle said that he wants to steer them and others through to completion.

    "I want to ensure that they'll actually happen," Doolittle said. "I've been an effective representative for the district but some people place no value on that - they think it would be a fun sport to bring John Doolittle down. But after that, who will you have? Who will do meaningful work, not send out a press release or just vote yes or no?"

    He even made headlines recently by making some tentative statements against the war.  You know he must really feel cornered to fall out of step!  (Sorry 'bout the mixed metaphor.)

    His campaign contributions haven't been doing so well.  And, it would seem, neither are donations to his legal defense fund.  According to The Hill today:

    Rep. John Doolittle (R-Calif.) reported no contributions to his legal defense fund Monday, noting that that it was created in late June just three days before the end of the second quarter’s reporting period.

    No wonder he's getting so whiny!  

    Doolittle’s campaign fundraising has struggled in recent months. His opponent, retired Air Force Lt. Col. Charlie Brown (D) came within three percentage points of beating the lawmaker last year. So far this year, Brown has raised nearly twice as much as Doolittle and has three times as much cash on hand as the congressman, according to second-quarter campaign finance documents.

    An even bigger cash advantage if you net out the reported debts.  Go Charlie Brown!

    "Every single Democratic candidate is immeasurably better than what we have in the White House now." - Sen. Joe Biden paraphrased

    by Land of Enchantment on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 08:50:04 AM PDT

    •  my too scents (1+ / 0-)
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      Superribbie

      What the Dems need to do, is what Kerry and Pelosi are now doing.  Make it obvious that we can't get things done because we don't have enough dems in Congress.

      Then the 2008 campaign slogan is "You want things done?  You want out of Iraq?  Then we need more Democrats!!!

      VOTE Democratic in 2008!


      "You cannot leave the rapist with the victim to serve as the therapist" - Iraqi journalist

      by AlyoshaKaramazov on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 09:07:00 AM PDT

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  •  Poor Smilin' Norm (3+ / 0-)
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    mftalbot, Romaniac, lenzy1000

    At this rate Franken will have a 7-point lead by New Year's Eve.

    The Republican Party is neither pro-republic nor pro-party. Discuss!

    by Nathaniel Ament Stone on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 08:50:38 AM PDT

  •  What a change! Last time Coleman was up like 20 (1+ / 0-)
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    lenzy1000

    something!

    We liberals, progressives, democrats, whatever you want to call us are energized as fuck.  

    This is awesome news.  Look at Jim Webb and Claire McCaskill in their states 8 months before the election and you'd see they were WAY behind.  Franken has already closed the gate.  And believe me, a lot more people will desert Coleman for Franken than will vice versa.  

    Thanks Minnesoooooooooooooota!

    If the Republicans promise to stop telling lies about us, maybe we'll stop telling the truth about them..

    by Romaniac on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 09:03:57 AM PDT

  •  Al Franken every day on CSPAN2 (2+ / 0-)
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    I'm looking forward to it.

  •  A few thoughts... (5+ / 0-)

    Some things in the polling numbers don't make too much sense (but may be partially due to large MoEs for subgroups), while some things do:

    African American: 52-40 for Coleman. Somehow I doubt that. African Americans in Minnesota are a small bloc, but they are as liberal as the rest of the Twin Cities (where most live) and Coleman has not, to my knowledge, done anything good for them. Some may be holdouts from his time as Saint Paul mayor, but Bush should have erased any sentiment from then. This could be a MoE  or a name rec thing — as could the general nearly 2-1 Coleman split amongst Hispanics.

    Ciresi vs. Franken Franken runs stronger in the Cities but is weak up in the Iron Range (Duluth - Grand Rapids NE, for those of you not in the know) and Ciresi is just the opposite. This is very interesting, as they it appears to be an urban-rural divide. The more independent south breaks better for Ciresi, and the west better Franken (although both lag). However, Coleman is under 50 in the Twin Cities and the Range as an incumbent.

    Party Affiliation 17% of Democrats polled go for Coleman. Expect a barrage of pictures and ads of Coleman sucking Bush's with Bush to erode that base. When you've cozied to Mr. 25%, it won't help.

    50% Coleman is already under 50% against all three challengers, even the relatively unknown Cohen. None of these three have ever held public office, so even whilst all are prominent, it's not the same as the '06 race with the AG and a sitting congresscritter (ah, how nice it is to think about Kennedy seething off in a gopher hole somewhere).

    Religion This has been a Jewish seat since 1978 (Boschwitz, Wellstone, Coleman) and two of these three candidates are Jewish.  (okay, not poll related, but interesting nonetheless).

  •  Why is Franken polling so poorly with blacks? (0+ / 0-)

    According to that poll, Coleman beats Franken among blacks 52% to 40%!  Twelve points higher for the Republican?!!

    Ciresi, by contrast, beats Coleman among blacks 51% to 43%.

  •  As a Minnesotan, (0+ / 0-)

    this makes me feel much better about this race.  I suspected when I saw the latest approval ratings for Coleman that there would be a major tightening in the next horse race poll too.

  •  Franken (1+ / 0-)
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    lenzy1000

    I'm pulling for him big time. He is a deep thinker with the ability to portray just how absurd the neocons are.

    Canada - where a pack of smokes is ten bucks and a heart transplant is free.

    by dpc on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 10:05:48 AM PDT

  •  Al is a union man - member of 4 unions (0+ / 0-)

    The steelworkers endorse him

    "We chose to endorse Mr. Franken for several important reasons." said Bob Bratulich, Director of USW District 11. Among these were the following:

    Al Franken is the only candidate running an aggressive, statewide grassroots’ campaign that has the capability of mobilizing working families in November, 2008.

    Al Franken supports and when elected will co-sponsor the Employees’ Free Choice Act.
     
    Al Franken supports "Fair Trade" that gives American workers a level playing field and enforces environmental and labor standards.

    Al Franken understands the needs of working families including universal health care, early childhood education and retirement security.

  •  Franken's Going to Win, and (1+ / 0-)
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    lenzy1000

    when he gets to DC, he's going to kick some ass-- including democratic ass.

    good. long overdue.

    Cerberus: In Greek mythology, the three-headed watchdog who guards the entrance to the lower world, the Hades.

    by Superpole on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 10:37:56 AM PDT

  •  I'm visiting Minneapolis for a week on biz... (0+ / 0-)

    arriving tomorrow night and have the weekend off....what's going on 'round town?

    esp. clue me in on the best joints to eat..... I'm staying downtown at the Millennium

    I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's. - Mark Twain

    by route66 on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 10:40:48 AM PDT

    •  What do you like? (1+ / 0-)
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      route66

      If you like beer, you should make a trip to Minneapolis Town Hall Brewery, one of the nation's best brewpubs (no kidding).  It's not far from downtown.  And in general, look for local beer on the menu wherever you find yourself-- Summit, Surly, Flat Earth...

      If you like highbrow diner food, you should check out Town Talk Diner, a fun and unique place.

      I'm sure others might have suggestions too... those are just off the top of my head.

    •  a few thoughts (0+ / 0-)

      As far as Downtown:

      • Sushi: Origami at 1st St and 1st Ave.
      • A great club & restaurant: Dakota Jazz & Blues...just down the street from your hotel
      • Swank restaurant & bar: Cosmos in the Graves 601 Hotel at 6th St. and 1st Ave. Don't let the exterior fool you; the inside is cool.
      • Another swank new restaurant & bar: Bank, in the old Farmers and Merchants bank at 6th St. & Marquette Ave. Very cool Art Deco Interior. Go for drinks; the food is lame.
      • good local coffee shop chain: Dunn Brothers

      Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx

      by Joe Bob on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 01:27:30 PM PDT

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  •  Minnesotans not leary of celebrity candidates? (0+ / 0-)

    Surprises me that the stench of the last celebrity candidate (governor turnbuckle) hasn't rubbed off on Franken.

    They call it the Royale with cheese

    by vincent vega on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 10:55:40 AM PDT

  •  When Bush Walks Through Three Feet of Water (0+ / 0-)

    Republicans drown.

    This aggression will not stand, man.

    by kaleidescope on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 10:56:51 AM PDT

  •  The following applies to all of Congress... (1+ / 0-)
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    Isn't it getting close to the threshold where Congresspeople cannot change their minds and say that they voted for a popular issue when in fact they had always voted against it?  For example, what is to stop the GOP from clinging to this failed Bush war until June 2008 and then declaring, as their political fortunes stare at them in their faces, that they were wrong and that they should be forgiven and now that they have had a change of heart, it's time for their constituents to vote for them again?

    Shouldn't there be a threshold in time beyond which voters should not believe their Republican Congresspeople to have changed their minds.  Bush may claim not to read polls, but I'm pretty sure the rest of his sorry party have nightmares about them.

    I think the date at which Congress comes back from their August recess should be set as the threshold, beyond which Republicans who have backed the war can no longer have any inkling of claiming they've "waited long enough" and that they are now "changing their minds" or "have seen the light."

    I want the war to be over, and our forces redeployed responsibly, just like the next person.  And I would like to "preempt" (heh heh) any attempt by Republicans who have had seven years to stand up to BushCo from suddenly reaching across the aisle in Congress to save their sorry butts.

    Can't you just hear Coleman and the whole lot of Republicans who will undoubtedly be in trouble come next election year, screaming to their voters that they have been patient enough and now, with their electoral lives in jeopardy, now they will finally listen to reason?  Well, Senator, I hope reason finds you out of office come next November.

    Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind -- Albert Einstein

    by BasharH on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 01:40:44 PM PDT

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