I appreciate the interest taken in my previous diaries on this topic and hope that all will find this interesting as well. Thanks for the comments and reccomendatons.
Its time to reveal one of the Bush administration's dirtiest little secrets: Bush KNOWS whether the CBS Memos are real or not and always has but has only played dumb. So do his aides and a lot of people in the military but they don't want to share the truth with America.
The fact that they KNOW whether the memos are real or not and have made no move to have them investigated, is one of the major facts that prove them real. Because if real, the CBS memos are very incriminating to Bush. And if forged, they libel Bush and his former superiors by impugning Bush's record using forged federal documents and implicating his superiors in conspiracy to falsify his documents.
Explanation below
One of the most covered up things about the CBS memos is that Bush and his aides HAVE to know whether theyre real--and have only played dumb. I can give you all kinds of quotes like this: "...White House spokesman Scott McClellan defended the president's service record, but offered no view on whether the CBS documents are authentic..." http://www.boston.com/...
And: "...The White House distributed copies of the Killian memos to reporters after the "60 Minutes" segment aired and did not directly challenge their authenticity, saying only that other organizations were raising questions about them..."
http://www.cnn.com/...
Thats all they did: play dumb, never challenge their authenticity, say they had no way to authenticate them (like they don't control EVERY federal investigative agency, including the military's?) Nobody EVER noted that the two memos cited here purport to be federal military papers, letterhead and signature of a federal military commander---and that therefore the federal government was responsible to authenticate them--not CBS, not Mary Mapes, not bloggers.
And nobody EVER mentioned the fact that Bush can unquestionably ID them, yes or no, but never has. And neither have his aides. Because theyre very incriminating to Bush if real--something else you don't see covered at all. Thats why there was no investigation: ANY investigation of Bush's service will reveal all the fraud and falsifications. ANY official investigation will put Bush and hs superiors in jail.
C'mon people--who's supposed to authenticate allegedly forged federal documents? CBS? Or the federal agency whose letterhead is on the top? Take a quickie civics quiz:
Q: Who's responsible to authenticate federal documents? Who maintains multiple agencies and crime labs specifically for the purpose of verifying military and other federal documents? Who's word is final?
A) CBS
B) bloggers
C) Mary Mapes
D) the federal government with all its investigative agencies that we pay billions of $$$ for, like the FBI crime lab. (they know all about fonts, spacing and formats)
Give up? The answer is: Surprise! "D!" No, I'm not kidding! But blogggers and the CBS Dog and Pony show is what settled this issue, or rather, left it unsettled, according to plan. The federal government, G Bush, commanding, the military and the Republican Party had no interest in investigating these documents, didn't want to know where they came from or if there were any more---even though they libel G Bush and others if forged. Very strange for a Republicon Congress whose Republicon President idol has been libeled during a Presidential campaign. Very strange for a man whose been libelled in print and broadcast.
Still no alarm bells ringing? Well let me drop this fact in on you--George Bush and Co really REALLY want you to think theyre forged--but are not willing to investigate them or explain them. I hope some bells ring over that--or I may just give up on this topic.
One of the most notable, but un-noted, things about the CBS was the fact that George Bush HAS to know whether the papers are real or not and only pretended he didn't. Theyre about HIM! His name is on every one of them and theyre talking about him. About historical things in his record that DID occur like his suspension from flying and the falsifications easily visible in his record (the "sugarcoating") which is why they vetted it and scrambled it up before they released it.
(See my previous diary about the falsifications http://www.dailykos.com/... )
Here's why Bush HAS to know whether two of the CBS memos are real or not:
Consider this document, the order to take his physical: http://news.findlaw.com/... George Bush HAS to know whether this is real or not because he knows, indisputably, whether he was ordered to take his physical or not. There's no way he doesn't know this, his aides too. You can't just drop in a new order to take a physical into someone's record without it being known right away whether its real.
If he wasn't ordered to take his physical, then this is false, indisputably--and Bush knows it. And if he WAS ordered to take his physical, then this is real....or where's the real one? Either way, Bush HAS to know if he was ordered to take his physical or not. Yet when asked directly by the AP whether he was ordered to take the physical the WH only stonewalled: "...The White House did not answer whether Bush disobeyed a direct order to take the exam..." http://www.cbsnews.com/...
That should have been a clear and resounding NO!....if that was the answer. Bush and his aides HAVE to know whether he was ordered to take the physical--and have only stonewalled. Why? (See where CBS buried that at the bottom of the page? The most important question as to whether the documents were real never got asked but not answered--this was not accidental)
Why wouldn't they authenticate something they obviously know for sure? Especially when, if false, these documents libel Bush, impugning his service using forged military documents? Why didn't they just say "No" when asked if he was ordered to take his physical... if that was the real answer??
Because if Bush was ordered to take his physical, and didn't, it shoots his whole "let go because plane went obsolete" story right out of the skies.
Note also about this document that it has letterhead of a TXANG unit, purports to be official TXANG business concerning a TXANG officer and is signed full signature by a commander of a TXANG unit in apparent performance of his official duties. Yet neither the TXANG nor any other federal agency has ever investigated this which is completely amazing when you figure that, if false, it libels their commander in chief, impugning his record. The federal government completely abdicated their duty to investigate and authenticate these documents to conservative bloggers and CBS. Pretty strange when you consider they know for dropdead sure whether theyre real, can investigate them easily, and that they libel Bush, and others if forged.
Do you understand that, America? CBS held an "investigation" with no legal standing or powers at all, to investigate these TXANG memos---and the TXANG never did? Nor any other investigative agency? While Bush only played dumb and pretended he didn't know whether he'd been ordered to take his physical or not or what his real suspension order said?? Am I the only one who sees that as suspicious? Better start to understand, America, its a huge disgrace.
Bush has to know whether the suspension order is real also: http://news.findlaw.com/... because he WAS suspended on that day, by Col Killian, according to this document: "Verbal orders of the Cmdr on 1 August 1972 suspending ....1st Lt George Bush from flight status.... are confirmed..." http://users.cis.net/...
Now, its important to understand that, though the orders were given verbally (i.e. face to face or,less likely, by phone) there was a paper copy of this order. Obviously there was, its what this confirmation order is confirming--not a phoned-in order. Anybody with ANY military knowledge, or organizational knowledge of any kind, knows there was a paper copy of this order or there wouldn't be a suspension--its what the confirmation documents are confirming. Where's the document theyre confirming?
Killian suspended Bush on 1 Aug 1972 as he was required to do by para 2-29 , wrote an order down and read it to Bush, and sent it up the chain of command for approval/action. It HAD to happen like that or there's serious procedural violations. Where is that order?? We have a copy of one, cited above, with the right information and date, but conservative bloggers didn't like the fonts, Bush said nothing at all, CBS held a Dog and Pony show and it all went away. Documents with letterhead of a federal unit with the full signature of a federal commander on them. And nobody ever offiered an alternative or acknowledged that the order was missing from Bush's redords.
Hodges confirmation CAN't be the original order--its the wrong date, 5 weeks later and makes no mention of having given the orders "verbally" http://www.glcq.com/... There would be some explanation for the 5 week delay if this was the original. And they also skipped Killian in the suspension--he was Bush's immediate "company grade" commander. If he was skipped, Bush and Hodges know that too and therefore know absolutely that this memo is forged. But thats not what theyre saying.
So, according to the paperwork, Bush had his suspension order read to him, had to receive a copy, was ordered later to sign for it and therefore knows absolutely if this is the order Killian read to him, and gave him, on 1 Aug 72. There's no wiggle room at all for BUsh, he HAS to know this--according to the paperwork. And George Bush has never explained or admitted this and ran away from authenticating this important document, pretending he couldn't ID it. And it libels him if forged.
MArian Knox, in her interview with Dan Rather (not under oath!) said that she had typed this order up, tho she didn't think the CBS copy was the one, and it was obviously sent up the chain of comand because of the confirmations. So the $86,000 question is--if this is phoney, then where's the real one? What does it say? Ho is it different? George Bush knows--and doesn't want to tell anyone.
The real one, with George BUsh's signature on it, should be in the records by regulation AFM 35-13 2-10b2 "...CBPOSA will insure that the unit personnel copy of an aeronautical order...which imposes or revokes a suspension... will be acknowleged by the person concerned to indicate a time and date of the receipt of orders..." http://www.glcq.com/...
By this regulation, there should be a signed copy of Killian's original suspension order dated 1 Aug 72 in Bush's files--and there's not. There's two confirmation documents but not the document theyre confirming.
Bush knows right now and always has whether these two documents are real--its always been ridiculous to claim he doeasn't, but Bushco has only run away from ID-ing them and had the issue "settled" through their bloggers and CBS... Why would they do that if they were forged? When theyre so incriminating if real?
If real, these two documents should be in Bush's files and theyre not. This is part of the record scrubbing you've heard so much about. Reg 2-10b2 cited above says that there should be a copy of Bush's original suspension order in the records for all to look at. The ARPC confirmation specifically orders Bush to acknowledge Killian's suspension order "...Off will comply with Reg 2-10..." If he didn't, as is apparent, then this is direct, damning proof of failure to obey a direct written order--- a major military offense.
This is the document that should say "We didn't need Bush any more because his plane was going obsolete so we're going to pay him flight pay to do back office paperwork and then strip him of his medals and qualifications and give him an early out" Or something like that that covers the existing paperwork. And it should be signed by Bush and Killian and dated 1st Aug 1972.
And guess what? There's nothing in there like that at all. Only the one signed by Killian that's dated 1st Aug 1972 the one that Bush refuses to ID. Talk about your unaccountability moment: the document purports to be Bush's suspension on that day, which DID happen on that day, and Bush only pretends he never saw it before.
Killian HAD to transmit the fact that he had suspended Bush in writing---thats what the two confirmation documents are confirming. Where IS that document and what does it say?
George BUsh and his aides know for sure---and theyre working hard to make sure that you don't know.
Why did Bushco pretend they couldn't ID these papers when if forged, theyre libelous...and if real, theyre REAL incriminating? C'mon America, 2+2+.....?
Hope you wake up to this some day, America, but I'm not overconfident on this.