Pat Buchanan and Gary Bauer takes turns defending Republican gay public sex. Get those excuses ready boys, because the whole RNC was just videotaped by a security cam getting teabagged in a Port-A-Potty. (Kidding!)
But these videos of Pat and Gary humiliating themselves while trying to defend Republican's love of public gay sex are priceless. Pat's up first, and Gary's below the fold. Gary is always way creepy, but he's got that slimy prissiness when he talks about homosexuality. And he's got that waxy ventriloquist dummy look that results from plastic surgery.
Pat Says IOKIYAR, because you know they all understand that everyone sins, so when something like this happens, it's all good.
BUCHANAN: ... republicans do believe -- do believe that there`s a real moral component here, and that`s what bothers us about Larry Craig -- not that he`s disorderly conduct, but the character of the behavior, even though it was -- might have been -- or he tried to have consensual sex between two men. Republicans believe that isn't moral. They believe adultery is immoral. they hold these to be true. They realize that men are sinners and women are sinners, and they`re falling constantly.
Pat says homosexuality is a sickness
BUCHANAN: Look, let`s talk about Larry Craig. I don`t -- I am not sure he is a hypocrite for this reason. I think he probably believes in "family values." It appears to me, this is a guy -- here`s a guy who risked his reputation, life, career, family for a couple of seconds of anonymous sex in a men`s room in -- he may not be a hypocrite...
BUCHANAN: ... he may be a man with a drive and a compulsion -- right, it is tragic...........
BUCHANAN: ....Hold it! Hold it, Dan. Look, suppose you believe in "family values." Suppose you believe that homosexuality is immoral. And suppose you cannot control the fact...
ABRAMS: Then you shouldn't be in the U.S. Senate, period.
WALSH: You really shouldn't.
BUCHANAN: That`s preposterous!
WALSH: You should get help with resolving...
Did you catch that? Pat is saying that if a Senator wants to spend his weekdays passing "family values" legislation and his weekends giving blowjobs in the Union Station men's room, it simply someone's dharma, not hypocrisy.
Pat is definitely in a hole, but he's not prepared to quit digging.
He's going to give the GOP a blank check for hot man on man promiscuity if it's the last thing he does.
ABRAMS: I`m sorry, Pat. Senators and Congressmen should be leaders in this community. They should be able to live by the standards that they advocate.
BUCHANAN: Well, they all fall from those standards. We fall from journalistic standards. I know priests who have preached against drunkenness and against alcoholism who can`t help the fact that sometimes they fall into alcohol.
That doesn`t make them hypocrites!
WALSH: Homosexuality is not a disease!
BUCHANAN: It makes them a failed human being.
WALSH: Homosexuality is not a disease, Pat, and I`m not going to sit here and have to call it that.
BUCHANAN: You don`t tell me that compulsion is not a...
BUCHANAN: I have gay friends and gay relatives.
BUCHANAN: Do you really think this guy...
Pat just called his gay friends and relatives "failed human beings."
But they could still be Senators
BUCHANAN: You really think -- look, now, I don`t know Larry Craig that well, but I do know anybody who preaches as he does and who risks everything on this insane two seconds in a public place, there`s something wrong with him.
ABRAMS: But Pat , you`re making...
(CROSSTALK)
ABRAMS: ... it`s an isolated incident.
BUCHANAN: I don`t care if it`s isolated or not, Dan. It doesn`t make any difference. Anybody that would risk it for something like that in a men`s room has a problem, for heaven`s sakes!
WALSH: Pat...
ABRAMS: OK. So do you want that person with a problem in the U.S. Senate?
WALSH: Look, the guy is going to do what he did, then I think he has probably damaged himself beyond repair. Let me ask you a question. Suppose he had been in a bar and he`s a gay man and he had propositioned someone in a bar in just a way that made a pass at some man.
ABRAMS: Right.
BUCHANAN: Do think he should be fired from the Senate for immorality?
ABRAMS: Of course not.
BUCHANAN: Well, then, OK.
Especially if Pat can decriminalize public sodomy! Pat you get to ride the float at the next gay pride parade.
ABRAMS: Pat, it`s the difference between a crime and not a crime.
BUCHANAN: Well, come on. Why is it a crime? Because it`s a nuisance in a public men`s room.
ABRAMS: Look, if you want to challenge the criminal law...
WALSH: Pat, I`m glad you`re a libertarian.
ABRAMS: ... that`s fine. You could -- you could -- Pat...
WALSH: I`m glad to hear you`re libertarian.
BUCHANAN: I`m not a libertarian!
(CROSSTALK)
ABRAMS: I`m sure they`d be happy that you`re going to be advocating...
BUCHANAN: I think it`s a good law.
ABRAMS: ... a change in the criminal law.
Here's Gary Bauer sticking up for Craig. Sorry, you have to sit through the commercial first:
http://video.msn.com/...
Here's the transcript
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/...
On Hardball, Gary Bauer works the same theme as Pat: everyone has sinned. So clearly, hot man on man love is OK for anti-gay Republicans. This sounds even creepier coming from Bauer who has the same smug oily prissiness as so many Republicans and looks like Charles Nelson Riley minus that ascot and sense of humor.
During the Foley scandal, Bauer blamed Foley's problems on the radical homosexuals who were bringing down Republicans "scoring cheap political points." Well guess what Gary, this time around it's the Republicans that purging the GOP.
Here's Bauer on Foley last year.
Anyway, on Hardball....
BAUER: Well, but, look. But, look, Chris. Christian voters, particularly, certainly understand the concept of human sin. In fact, the whole religion is based on the idea that all men sin, which is why we have a savior.
MATTHEWS: But in a way that is totally hypocritical?
BAUER: Oh, well, look, I mean, you—I—I think the emphasis here on hypocrisy is interesting.
What I find disgusting about this whole thing is not hypocrisy. What I find it disgusting is that we have a culture now where the Minneapolis Police Department has to have stakeouts..
Because it's society's fault. "Will and Grace" caused an epidemic of conservative buggery,
BAUER: ... I think hypocrisy in Washington is as old as politics. I think what is new is that we increasingly have a society that is very confused about moral values, about reliable standards of right and wrong. And the poisoned air of the culture we are in infects everybody, all the way, even more disturbingly, to our children, who are breathing the air...
Plus it's the Democrats fault. They're driving cars and living in houses and not wearing animal skins. It's that kind of hypocrisy that drives elderly Republicans to give head at the YMCA
And, look, Chris, hypocrisy in Washington is not new either. You can get that, all the way from $400 haircuts...... to former vice presidents talking about the environment who uses more energy than 20 families in Tennessee....
MATTHEWS: Yes.
But Republicans should still vote for hypocrites if they promise to act conservative. Of course, if they lie about their values, wouldn't they lie about the other stuff?
And why should values voters elect politicians that think they are stupid?
And do values voters want DC turned into Sodom and Gommorrah?
Acccording to Gray the answer is yes, yes they do!
BAUER: But, Chris, again, at the end of the day, I think voters will say, well, now, wait a minute. If I elect a conservative Senate, will they be more likely to put on Supreme Court justices.........The only reason the Republican Party is competitive as a national party to govern this country is because they get the votes of millions of people who do believe in these values, and who are not hypocrites....