Hillary's Congratulatory Fax To Al Gore

Little Al,

Saw that you were in the news again.  Congratulations on that prize you won.  I'm not familiar with it but they say you got $1.5 million so it must be prestigious.  It must be nice to finally finish first at something, huh?

Anyway, things are good here.  I see you've been packing on the weight.  I guess you learned at least one thing from your old boss.  You two sure could go head to head at the feeding trough.  Remember that one time in Iowa in the hotel when Bill beat you 11 Big Macs to 10?   You never really were good at coming in first.  

So Chelsea told me you are pretty popular at the DailyKos, too.   She says its a website on the internet you invented.   I found that interesting and asked Markie Penn about it (remember, Markie?).   He said he'd never heard of the Daily Kos and asked if it was some kind of illegal daily supplement made in China from human hair.  However, despite not hearing about it he said he'd be willing to take them on as a client if they had enough money.  He is so dedicated in that way.  Did you ever hear the story about how he got Olean approved despite its tendency to cause anal leakage?  Anyway, I'm glad you are popular with the kiddie website.  By the way, that rumor that Chelsea had joined up with Rudy's kid to support Obama isn't true.

So, good luck saving the planet.  I'm sure you'll be traveling the next year talking about your award and planting trees or whatever it is you do.  I hear they are having a drought down in Australia.   Perhaps you should plan on spending next year down there.   Or over in Africa.  Bill's people might be able to hook you up with a gig there.  Plenty of stuff to keep a big prize winner like you busy.

Stay in touch.  Say Hi to Tipper and the Girls.

Love,

Hillary

PS.  Make sure to stop by my website and say hello.

•  meranwhile, back in the real workd...

  ...this is what's on hillary's website this morning.

  

  stay classy, onemadson.

  by campskunk on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:18:53 AM PDT

  •  Meanwhile, I'm sure HRC

    is probably having an "Oh, s*it" moment in private, and working closely with her strategists to neutralize any Gore threat should it arise.

    by corvo on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:26:11 AM PDT

    •  No doubt

      by The Termite on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:27:27 AM PDT

    •  that was the point of this diary

      perhaps my humor isn't for everyone but you can be damn sure the clinton penn team aren't happy with today's headlines.

      by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:28:43 AM PDT

      •  It just makes Al's coming endorsement

        of the Clinton campaign that much more impressive.

        by Niniane on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:44:37 AM PDT

        •  pfft! LOL! good luck on that one..

          he does that and the Environment will be in big trouble: no one will believe that he actually thinks it's in trouble anymore.

          by Yoshi En Son on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:46:08 AM PDT

          •  I'm curious, do you think any endorsement by Gore

            would have the same effect?

            by oysterface on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:27:52 AM PDT

    •  Why? When Gore is included in polls

      she beats him by a wide margin.

      by tigercourse on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:34:13 AM PDT

      •  well

        then perhaps they are doing high fives in the clinton offices today and hoping Al jumps in.  I've been wrong before about how Clinton and Penn think.    

        by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:39:50 AM PDT

        •  I'd imagine that they are. He'd siphon

          support from Edward and Obama, and assure her completely of the Nomination.  I love Gore but I really hope he stays out of this

          by magi on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:45:55 AM PDT

          •  the polling suggests that

            he'd rise to the top or near the top instantly after entering the race, should he go ahead and do so. Yes, that means that the race becomes a two way race. However, he would have as much chance if not greater chance of winning the nomination than HRC. Please see the link I gave below.

            by NeuvoLiberal on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:05:33 AM PDT

            •  I hear ya, but I think some are committed to

              their candidate (like myself) and would not change unless said candidate dropped out.  I would wager that I'm not alone on this.

              by magi on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:11:15 AM PDT

      •  well, if the pollsters ask:

        "how would you vote if Gore entered the race", then Gore seems to be able to pull ahead of HRC as we saw in MI and NH polls that asked questions phrased that way.

        by NeuvoLiberal on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:49:29 AM PDT

    •  Probably

      Just because a wonderful, dedicated Democrat and progressive leader like Gore might enter the race does not mean she is somehow going to concede the race. She brings a great deal to the table.

      In fact, I think Obama and Edwards are probably trying to think of ways to deal with his possibly entering. If Gore enters, it becomes a two person race. Hell, at the moment, one of the Political Markets where people make bets on who will win the Democratic nomination has Gore winning the nomination as more likely than either Obama and Edwards. If he doesn't enter, Gore's strong showing  in these markets, where people put money on the line to support their predictions, underlines how weak Obama's and Edwards' chances of winning have become in many people's minds.

      Taunt Hillary all you want, but is the only Democrat who could possibly survive a Gore candidacy. I would be truly happy if either won the nomination.

      by John Campanelli on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:40:28 AM PDT

    •  As undoubtedly are Obama and Edwards

      as well... and anyone else who hasn't already given up.

      by Niniane on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:43:14 AM PDT

      •  certainly obama and edwards

        are also giving it much thought.  But as the frontrunner, Clinton has the most to lose in my opinion.  

        Also, if Gore enters it certainly could improve the chances of Obama getting a VP slot if he can't win the nomination.  No way Hillary picks obama as VP.

        You people need to develop thicker skins.  I'm not taunting hillary.  I'm pointing out that things could change significantly in the near future in the dem prez race.  And she has the most to lose as she is the frontrunner.

        I won't get into my comments on the idea of clinton welcoming a broader debate of the issues.  That is another diary.  

        by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:47:51 AM PDT

        •  I don't mind the criticism.

          I just miss the "funny".

          by Niniane on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:49:35 AM PDT

      •  Indeed. n/t

        by corvo on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:48:13 AM PDT

    •  I'll bet they're quite happy at Clinton HQ

      In fact, I'll bet they've already planned out Al's endorsement announcement.

      by kck on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:49:29 AM PDT

    •  Seen her on Countdown

      The other night.  Just caught the end of it, but he was aksing her about her vote on the Iran bill, didn't hear the whole thing, then he asked her about Gore running for the nomination.  She did a great job of "not" answering the question, which seems to be what she is best at.  You could tell it was "not" a question she wanted to answer.

      by Andy823 on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:52:01 AM PDT

      •  c'mon she was very supportive

        of Gore winning the Nobel!  I don't care a whit about her, but you have to admit that (well, I guess you don't since you didn't) she was complimentary and gracious on Countdown. Sure, she probably doesn't want him to run, but he isn't!  

        Any time you get a Democrat in the news as winning something and being well-regarded in the world at large, it's good for Hillary, Barack, John or any of the others. Who's the last publican to win the Nobel Peace Prize? How can it not be good for Democrats that Gore wins it?!? Be sure she's happy about this.

        IF he runs (and that's a big if) she will respond to that, but for today, it's good for the entire party and she damn well knows it. That's why his picture is on her website!

        by dougymi on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:45:15 AM PDT

    •  We all knew this was coming.

      Why would her campaign be caught off guard by his Nobel win?  They have been planning for months for this day and all it's possible repercussions.

      by jarhead5536 on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:48:05 AM PDT

      •  Who said they were caught off guard by it?

        But whenever something like this happens, you reevaluate your options.  Unless, of course, you're about to be obliterated by a hailstorm of nukes.

        by corvo on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 10:09:46 AM PDT

        •  You said

          something about an "oh shit" moment, which implies reacting to something unexpected.  I fully expect that Sen. Clinton has umpteen contigency plans in place in preparation for this day, whatever VP Gore decides to do...

          by jarhead5536 on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 10:55:13 AM PDT

          •  I don't know about you,

            but I say "Oh, s*it" every time my new dog pees on the carpet, even when I was expecting it.

            by corvo on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 11:33:36 AM PDT

    •  Oh, come on ...

      No one in the reality-based community is giving a moment's thought to a Gore "threat" in the primaries. He's not going to run. He's probably not going to endorse till the primaries are settled.

      Al Gore is going to keep focusing on the work he got a Nobel friggin Peace Prize for.

      by al Fubar on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 10:01:38 AM PDT

      •  I know that; you know that;

        but it would be a curious act of hubris on the part of the HRC campaign to discount it entirely.

        But then, hubris does seem to be the name of their game, so maybe you have a point. :-)

        by corvo on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 10:11:03 AM PDT

  •  this is nicer phrasing

    I was critiquing earlier at myDD, suggesting that this kind of phrasing, i.e. "raising awareness" is more appropriate than the phrase "sounding alarms" that HRC used on Countdown. So, I should and do credit HRC's team for this.

    by NeuvoLiberal on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:59:40 AM PDT

•  that didn't take long

  I'm sure you hillary supporters would welcome Al entering the race, right?

  by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:21:34 AM PDT

  •  Yes, I would welcome him in the race

    He would bring great experience, intelligence, and wisdom. I, as well as many Hillary supporters, would welcome a broadening of the debate of the issues in this campaign. The more we can push the debate, the better for the nation.

    by John Campanelli on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:26:46 AM PDT

•  Until reading this diary....

  ....I thought any snark piece that mentioned anal leakage was, by definition, funny.

  Not so, it turns out.

  by The Termite on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:23:13 AM PDT

  •  well

    perhaps you're a bigger fan of mark penn's work than i am.  

    by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:24:15 AM PDT

    •  Wait

      Let me make sure I have this straight: I didn't find your diary funny, ergo I am a fan of Mark Penn?

      I'm not following.

      by The Termite on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:25:11 AM PDT

      •  onemadson's just not funny today.

        hey, it happens. all aspiring comedians should have a day job for backup, in my opinion.

        by campskunk on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:27:02 AM PDT

        •  Or two, in his case.

          Starbucks doesn't pay that well, you know.

          by homogenius on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:43:48 AM PDT

          •  how clinton like

            when clinton supporters don't like your opinion they ridicule you by saying you must work at Starbucks.  

            Very nice and republicanesque.  Anyone who doesn't agree with me must be poor and have to work two jobs.  

            by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:51:29 AM PDT

      •  my bad

        you are right.  

        I'm willing to admit my mistakes.

        by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:27:22 AM PDT

•  this is funny..and probably true

  by AmericanHope on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:34:16 AM PDT

•  I found it funny

  But I have a very snarky sense of humor.

  Carry on, onemadson!

  by ibonewits on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:35:03 AM PDT

  •  thanks

    i've had tough crowds before but a roomful of hillary supporters might be the toughest.

    time to cancel that gig at the laugh factory in Chappaqua.

    by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:37:35 AM PDT

    •  I'm not a Hillary supporter.

      But I thought it was stupid.

      by homogenius on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:44:36 AM PDT

      •  well, the circle of pure believers...

        ...is getting smaller and smaller. everyone else looks like the enemy now, i guess.

        by campskunk on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:05:01 AM PDT

        •  campskunk

          while i'm not a comedian and don't ever plan to be one I have created artwork that has been reviewed by critics.   I once had a critic simply write "die! die!  die!".   I had one tell say they were considering suicide to prevent further exposure to my work. I've also had some slightly more positive reviews.

          If I create something and someone hates it, it really doesn't bother me.  If you create something that everyone loves, it probably isn't that good.   Its sort of like politics.  If you try to please everyone, you are going to be very uninteresting.  Perhaps considered calculating.  

          A couple people said they found this diary funny.   I consider any day i make a few people laugh to be a good day.  

          And we also had some discussion about the political issue at hand.  Not too bad.  

          by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:13:13 AM PDT

      •  I'll tell ya what...

        the one thing that could make me a Clinton supporter is the level of vitriol that her detractors bring. It's just incredible. The Hillary haters are the ones making her seem more reasonable. I mean all of them. Every time a Hillary hater opens his/her mouth, I'm closer to supporting her. All Hillary haters, whether giuliani, romney or their allies here on this site, who aid the publicans by bashing her using the same arguments that the publicans use.

        by dougymi on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:53:15 AM PDT

        •  that is a strange way

          to choose a candidate.  

          I like to start with the issues.  However, I do believe that that is not what the majority of americans do.

          by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:55:40 AM PDT

          •  maybe strange, but it also gave me

            the final push to the Clinton camp. It's the guilt by association problem: If that is what his/her supporters are like, well maybe that isn't the candidate for me.

            by oysterface on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 10:01:25 AM PDT

            •  but with the vitriol around here

              its all anonymous.  Based on this concept if i was a hillary supporter i should just spend all day bashing her and saying I liked Edwards to try to drum up support for Hillary.

              I prefer the issues.   That would be like saying I'm not going to listen to Bob Dylan anymore because of the drunk obnoxious people who sat next to me at the concert last week.   I don't like most of his fans.  And the concert really was pretty bad.  But I'm still going to play those early records.

              by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 10:05:38 AM PDT

              •  I'm sure you'd be the first to support her

                should she become the nominee, right?  On the issues, right? Because you really really don't want a publican to win, right?

                by dougymi on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 10:14:41 AM PDT

                •  well

                  I live in NY so my vote doesn't matter.  Would I vote for her over Giuliani?  Sure.   He is a fucking criminal pyscopath.   Its not hard to find the lesser of two evils in that equation.  Do i think she will continue to hand over the country to corporations and continue the war?  Sure thing.   Of course Rudy would do that to.   Perhaps she won't go into Syria?   Rudy would.  She will be much better than Rudy.  I do not find this as a good standard when choosing my presidents.   Better than a crazy, criminal Mayor?  

                  She will be better on the issues than the Republican choice whoever it is.   But she will not be good on the issues that matter to working americans, in my opinion.   I think we can do better.

                  I've had the discussion with many hillary supporters asking why they support her.   I find that many don't know much about the issues.  I find that troubling.   But this is America.  I don't expect that to change.

                  As I've said before.  Hillary supporters should be the ones who stop being so negative.  Things look great for you guys.  Any other year and she doesn't have a chance to beat a white republican male.  This is her year.  And she is leading in the polls and the white people in Iowa and NH will most likely vote her in.  All the rest of us can do is watch and cast meaningless votes if we even have primaries.

                  I think we can do better.  Perhaps that is considered vitriol to some.    

                  by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 10:30:51 AM PDT

                  •  First, I'm not a Hillary supporter

                    You're lumping me into a group I'm not in. I said that the one thing that could make me a Hillary supporter is her vitriolic detractors who use publican talking points to take her down. I don't know that you're one of those, but they're certainly in evidence at this site.  Right now I'm for Dodd. There isn't any other choice in my state because of the cowardice of Obama and Edwards.

                    Second, you don't have any evidence that she'll continue the war and that she'll hand over the country to corporations. You only have conjecture.  While you might be the smartest political pundit in the world, it's still just conjecture drawn from your opinion of some of her supporters.  That's not something I put a great deal of stock into.  Her statements that I've heard from her lips don't say the same things that you're ascribing to her.

                    She's better than any fucking republican and that's good enough for me.  I don't intend to aid and abet the republican party in any way, shape or form. By using republican talking points and vitriol (once again, I'm not accusing you, but those elements are used frequently here to attack her) people are only aiding giuliani and romney to continue republican rule in this country, which is the greatest enemy to American and world peace that I can think of.

                    by dougymi on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 10:56:01 AM PDT

                    •  dougymi

                      if a republican had been:

                      on the board of Walmart
                      getting money from Murdoch
                      Voting for war with Iraq and then for Kyl Lieberman
                      Saying they won't rule out permanent bases in Iraq
                      Saying they will keep forces in Iraq
                      Had Marc Penn as their top advisor
                      Told me lobbyists represent the working people
                      etc

                      I would be critical of that Republican.  Am i being vitriolic by thinking these are not good things?  To some, perhaps.  These things trouble me.  I think they are cause for concern.  

                      I believe the evidence is there for my conjecture.   Should I not consider that or bring it up in discussion because that might help Republicans?  Shit, I think republicans would agree with all of those things and see them as positives so I don't see my position as helping Republicans.  Did I make fun of her ludicrous stage laugh that appeared out of nowhere in my diary?  No.  Her cleavage?  No.  Clenis?  No. I have a serious difference of opinion with her on what i consider serious issues.   Are obama and edwards better.  In my opinion they are better and I'd prefer one of them in office.  From what i know so far, I'd be quite happy with Dodd.  While it might not be clear from this post, I'd really rather Gore stay out of the race.   I'm for some new blood in the white house.  People who think Clinton has a lock on the seat are good students of history.  

                      You see all the same evidence and I do and think differently.  Fair enough.  

                      by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 11:06:29 AM PDT

                      •  As I said,

                        I'm not accusing you of repeating the points that you just repeated, even though you brought them up and continued the narrative. You're certainly welcome to hold your opinion.

                        If there were a choice in my state, then perhaps someone who had a realistic chance of winning might get my support, but the other two front runners are afraid of the wrath of IA and NH, notwithstanding the fact that, should they win, they could seat any delegation they wanted to.  

                        The fact remains, despite your condemnation of Hillary Clinton (Walmart? That old chestnut? When she was on the board there, it WAS a better corporation than it is now) for in many cases what I consider conjecture, she still represents more of what I believe a Democrat is than any republican POS.  

                        That fact can't be changed.

                        by dougymi on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 11:49:13 AM PDT

                        •  we agree

                          she is a better choice than the republicans.  Saying you are better than that crew is saying very little.  I'm tired of the slightly better than republicans argument.  

                          I say we can do better.

                          The points above are not Republican talking points.  I think they are valid issues.

                          In the revisionist history of corporate america, at what point did Walmart turn to the dark side?  Everyone seems to think they were great people while Hillary was on the board and then became evil.

                          Like i said, you think that old thing about Walmart is nothing.  I have a pretty good idea about what goes on in boardrooms of America.  I can tell you that they rarely have "how can we help the worker bees" at the top of their list of things to do.

                          Hillary was also on the board of LaFarge here in NY.  They are one of the worst polluters in the state.  Did they also turn bad after Hillary left?   That is what i'm told by Hillary supporters.

                          I see evidence and view it one way.  You see it differently.   Perhaps neither of us will be surprised by how things turn out.  If she is elected, i do expect to be disappointed but it will not be a suprise.

                          If its any indication of how i view things, I'm really not too happy about John Edwards having worked as a consultant for firms that were profiting from the whole subprime mortgage debacle.   I have an issue with that.  Not a big fan of some of Obama's advisors either.   But like we agree that Hillary is a better choice than any Republican, I believe that either of those two is a better choice than Hillary.

                          Now, I got to get off this free Starbucks Wifi and get back to serving the lattes!  Starbucks offers all employees health insurance.  Yeah!

                          by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 12:07:38 PM PDT

              •  Funny. I'd never have thought of that.

                I never realized how many fans Hillary could possibly have on this site. Maybe dKos is a secret pro-Hillary cabal. That explains a lot.

                Your comparison is not really all that apt. Say you had three really great singers competing in a public competition for album of the year, and you were torn between them, recognizing that each had good and bad points and recognizing that each was in some way deserving. Now there is somewhere to go to voice your opinion, and you find attacks one of them are over the top. They seem a bit delusional. Now you get to the part about who they think should win. How much credit do you give their opinion?

                by oysterface on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 10:44:09 AM PDT

                •  to me

                  it gets back to the album.  If there are three albums I'll chose the best one for my taste.  If i let other people's reaction to the albums than I'm just another sheeple aka normal american.  I like to listen to records and make up my own mind.  Rolling Stone told us the last Dylan record was a 5 star masterpiece.   Not in my world.  

                  If you think the three albums are all the same, than certainly your approach works fine.  "Those Dylan fans are assholes, I'm going with Bruce".

                  I have never come across a situation where there were three albums that I considered equal so I don't have this problem.

                  If you think the three dem leaders for president are equals on the issues, perhaps you have different issues that you focus on.  Quite possible.  On the issues I consider, I see differences.  Some seem pretty stark.

                  I find the attacks by the edwards and obama people to be quite obnoxious unless they focus on the merits.  I find the response to merit based arguments against hillary to be pretty obnoxious as well.

                  I'm not expecting things to improve and i'm not expecting to change my worldview based on what some anonymous nut on a website says.  

                  by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 10:56:45 AM PDT

                  •  It is good to find someone in America above

                    the 'sheeple effect.' Your integrity must be a great consolation to you when you venture out your door amongst the great unwashed masses.

                    by oysterface on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 11:38:34 AM PDT

                    •  unwashed?

                      You work at Starbucks like I do, you mostly see the great very well dressed and clean masses.  The unwashed don't drink the lattes.   But you are right, I'm the type that thinks if you don't have your integrity, you don't have anything (marc penn and i differ on this point as well).   And if you let other people make your decisions for you, you probably are going to end up disappointed.

                      If its any comfort to you, my career in corporate america, which was going quite nicely and paid me quite well, took a bit of a turn at one point when I spoke up honestly at a company wide meeting.  I was taken aside by a higher up and told, "you have a bright future here and what you said was true.  But you can't speak honestly about things that they don't want to hear."

                      So, I could shut up and look the other way and prosper or I could keep my integrity and serve the lattes.   Would you like a grande?

                      by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 11:57:34 AM PDT

                      •  no thanks, I'm not buying. I'll shop elsewhere.

                        by oysterface on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 12:08:42 PM PDT

  •  I like a little "clever" with my snark...

    and it just wasn't there.
    The shots were all too easy. Cheap. Automatic.

    If everybody can do it, no one needs to, you know?

    by Niniane on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:47:37 AM PDT

    •  well

      if you haven't used up your diary for the day, fire away. Let's see what the really funny people can do.  Make us laugh.

      by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:55:21 AM PDT

      •  Hear, hear! Where, where? n/t

        by ibonewits on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:56:31 AM PDT

      •  "If everybody can do it, no one needs to"

        "You know?"

        When I have something worthy to say, that hasn't been said dozens of times already, that I am well qualified to report on...And when I have the time and/or passion...

        ...I'll write a diary. I've written several.

        Then I'll ask myself... is this really good enough to take up one of those fleeting "recent diary" slots?... What if I push something really important, albeit neglected, off the list?

        And of course, do I know what the fuck I'm talking about... or if I'm feeling snarky... is this clever? Funny?

        Then I do what I usually do... save it and file it away.

        It's like some writers I know.

        Some writers put out some really good stuff, ground breaking stuff... with terrific insight and painstaking research. Some blaze the trail and take us where we've never been before.
        Some will take unpopular positions, swimming against the tide, until the rest of the flock comes to their senses.
        We are all better for their work...

        And then...
        Some authors are kind of like the book of the month club... except instead of reading, they write one a month... typically on topics where they are less qualified than the readers to tread.
        Meh.

        It's kind of like that.

        Thanks to all the good ones, for setting the bar so high. Yeah, that means you.

        Thanks again.

        by Niniane on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:47:48 AM PDT

•  Dear Al

  If you thinnk for one minute that this prize means you are goi..... [at this point the letter is all smudged and runny]....could I be your Vice President?

  BFF Hillary XOXOX

  by Salo on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:45:10 AM PDT

  •  OK, that was funny. n/t

    by Niniane on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:59:26 AM PDT

    •  see how that works

      he/she took my idea and improved on it and made you laugh.  I get a comedy assist on that one.  So, thanks for helping make my day a little better.

      by onemadson on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 10:33:06 AM PDT

      •  Assist to you.

        Point taken.

        by Niniane on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 10:48:34 AM PDT

•  Well

  guess Clinton supporters aren't in a funny mood.. but I thought the diary was very funny.

  by Yoshi En Son on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:54:05 AM PDT

•  One last thing about Al and the Clintons

  I realize Gore was pissed - rightfully- at Clinton for his sexual indiscretions during the 2000 campaign. Nevertheless, Clinton had the good sense to forego the usual calculus of picking someone from another region of the country in 1992 when he picked his V.P. He picked the person he believed would be the best person to assist him govern and to take office if something were to happen to Clinton. And while Gore may have been pissed at Clinton in the passed, it seems that what comes first for Gore now is his environmental agenda. Therefore, he recently attended Clinton's Global Initiative.

  DailyKos wants to make Gore and Clintons mortal enemies. It's a tempting fantasy for those supporting other candidates. I wouldn't be surprised if Gore either doesn't endorse any candidate, instead hoping that all candidates adopt his agenda. But no matter who the Democratic candidate is, he will campaign vigorously for him or her.

  by John Campanelli on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:55:29 AM PDT

•  Do Clinton supporters even realize

  how bad taste it would be for Clinton to even remain in the Race if Gore got in?

  by Yoshi En Son on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:56:36 AM PDT

  •  Give me a break. That's just so damn stupid.

    by tigercourse on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:57:42 AM PDT

    •  Is it?

      She has spoken out about the stolen election.  If she really believes that it was stolen - shouldn't she bow out to the person who should rightfully be President?

      Don't get me wrong, it's almost certainly and accademic discussion because I doubt he's going to jump in.  It would rock the boat too much and might taint the work that he is doing.  So have no fear, your candidate will unlikely actually have to face such a situation..

      .. but in the world of "what if" - in my opinion it would be in bad taste for any (or most) of the candidates who are running to remain in the race.. (as I posted in my Diary this morning).. and yet I expect most of them to remain in the race (as I also stated this morning)... Including my own candidate.

      Just because I support Obama, and would still vote for Obama if Gore got into the race - I still think it'd be in bad taste for him to remain running against Gore.

      by Yoshi En Son on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:02:05 AM PDT

      •  My first reaction to your comment was

        exactly the same as tigercouse. I'm glad you explained it more fully. I still don't agree with you, but at least I can now see your point. Thanks.

        by oysterface on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:12:36 AM PDT

        •  No problem. Thanks for reading my reply. n/t

          by Yoshi En Son on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 06:41:44 PM PDT

  •  roflmao! n/t

    by Caldonia on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 11:52:45 AM PDT

•  from the AP

  http://news.yahoo.com/...

  Next to Gore's picture is a box that says, "Eight things you can do" to help Clinton become president

  .

  by AmericanHope on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 08:57:14 AM PDT

  •  it's a campaign website.

    the "eight things you can do" link box has been in the top right column since the website went up. al's picture is top left, the most prominent non-permanent content on the website.

    by campskunk on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:02:13 AM PDT

    •  ya know

      those boxes arent permanent, you can take them down for one day and honour someone who is actually doing good. and re-post them tomorrow

      but to hil, gore isnt worth that..

      by AmericanHope on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:05:13 AM PDT

      •  ahh, your point wasn't clear.. n/t

        by Yoshi En Son on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:06:08 AM PDT

      •  did obama and edwards take down theirs...

        ...or is this another one of those double standard things?

        by campskunk on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:09:22 AM PDT

        •  hil is closer to gore

          presumably, hillary is closer to gore than the other people b/c she "was in the whitehouse" when he was there.

          she isnt really close to him b/c the two are in oppo camps..but presumably she is closer to gore than somebody like obama or edwards

          by AmericanHope on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:39:58 AM PDT

      •  Oh Jaysus, grow up. n/t

        by Caldonia on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 11:51:53 AM PDT

  •  I agree with campskunk

    The eight things have nothing to do with Gore, nothing to do with the AP, nothing to do with Yahoo, and Nothing to do with the Diary..

    They do have to do with how Clinton feels you can help her get elected - and are located on her website.

    by Yoshi En Son on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:05:21 AM PDT

  •  Typical

    One of the standard media swipes at Hillary is to point out things that every politican does, but never get mentioned when it's anyone other than Hillary.

    When they talk about something on her website, they always mention the "Contribute" button close by, as if every politician's website doesn't have a contribute button.

    When she does a photo-op, they always talk about the stage management, even though everyone's photo ops are stage-managed.

    You might recognize it as the "Hillary is calculating" meme.  Your liberal media, working to take down another Democrat just like they did with Al Gore.

    by Steve M on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:48:02 AM PDT

    •  not really

      the press as been pretty much hands-off on hil this whole primary season.

      they'll never stop on gore.

      by AmericanHope on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 10:36:57 AM PDT

•  Not very nice

  But one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time. And not because it's Hillary.

  by Nab on Fri Oct 12, 2007 at 09:42:40 AM PDT