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[cross-posted at And, yes, I DO take it personally]

i was drawn to this particular paragraph in one of anonymous liberal's guest contributions to glenn greenwald's blog in salon...

[more on the flip]

From a purely political standpoint, I find it virtually incomprehensible that Democrats are not tripping over each other to oppose granting immunity to the telecoms. I understand that many Democrats live in constant fear of being labeled "soft on terror," but this issue is easily severable from the issue of surveillance law generally. It has nothing to do with the president's surveillance authorities going forward, and any voter can readily understand that. This is about a president (who is painfully unpopular) asking Congress to do something totally unreasonable (blindly grant sweeping immunity for unspecified illegal conduct) on behalf of huge corporations (whom no one much trusts or likes) who are more than capable of taking care of themselves (they have massive legal budgets and top-notch lawyers). If Democrats in Congress don't think they can present their opposition to such legislation in a way that the public will understand, then they might as well pack up and go home because they're clearly not cut out for this line of work.

i agree... why make us suffer more than we already have by watching congress engage in this elaborate and empty charade of separation of powers, adherence to the constitution and respect for the rule of law... give bush carte blanche to run the country any way he wants, - which he's doing anyway, - and we can get on with the grief process over the loss of our democratic republic... we've been through shock, anger and rejection, so we might as well get cracking on acceptance...

Originally posted to profmarcus on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 09:30 AM PDT.

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  •  thanks for your diary, especially... (3+ / 0-)
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    homogenius, Limelite, blueintheface

    since the illegal wiretapping apparently started before 9/11.  Why are the Dems conceding on this issue?  They can be voted out next time! No immunity, Zip, Nada.

    •  The Dems are conceding because they believe (2+ / 0-)
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      Bexley Lane, mainecabinfever

      they CANNOT lose this next election and they want to preserve Bush's powers for themselves. No muss, no fuss. A nice quiet transfer of the iron glove.

      Our new dictators.

      Don't believe me?

      The Dem candidates are equivocating about giving the power away.

      Pelosi has gone beyond the pale in her attempts to maintain the staus quo.

      Even as congressional investigations go on, they get no tangible results. (Can't have that. Nasty things might come out and the people would really demand change.)

      Subpeonas, Schlubpeonas. A sternly worded letter that is ignored is a really effective result.

      Bills that should pass are deepsixed by the DEMOCRATS!

      An occasional Dem loses his mind and speaks the truth - he must be humiliated by the Dem leaders.

      Why? Give me a good reason why all of this is happening.

      Marking time...marking time. Waiting for their turn at the trough.

      Follow the money. Qui bono?

      by bablhous on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 10:03:02 AM PDT

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  •  Good Catch (1+ / 0-)
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    bablhous

    On this topic has America become exhausted, thus silent from its disappointment in Congress?

    The time comes when the sighted out pace the blind and eventually leave them behind. Even when pulling them along by the hand.

    They burn our children in their wars and grow rich beyond the dreams of avarice.

    by Limelite on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 09:56:32 AM PDT

  •  Our Fearless Leaders... (0+ / 0-)

    Over the last few months, I've concluded to my dismay that our "Democrats" do not represent me, do not care for my opinions, do not believe in the Constitution, and are engaged in nothing more than a gutless and miguided attempt to increase their majorities in Congrss.

    But what purpose does more power serve when that power is not used to protect the core & fundamntal ideals of the constitution?  What good is power without morality, compassion and decency? What good is power when it is vested in people who allow a President to trash our environment, restrict our freedoms, and involve us in devastating wars.

    I'm looking for someone to answer the question: why should I care about elections or politics or candidates anymore?  I'd love to hear back, I'd love to feel passionate about all of this again, but right now I simply feel that nothing will change, no matter what happens in the 08 elections.

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