Seriously, how is Chris Matthews going to spin his hypocrisy if it is Hillary vs Rudy?

Chris, the hypocrite, Matthews has a problem.
So does Chris, the misogynist, Matthews.

I am curious as how Matthews is going to lie and spin his way through it all IF it ends up Hillary vs Rudy.

Chris, the phony anti-war pundit, Matthews is pushing hard for Obama.  I don't think Matthews actually gives a damn about Obama. I think he sees Obama as easier to trash and beat than Edwards and Hillary.

Here's my theory and here are the questions I want Matthews people to address (surely they stop here too).

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Clearly Chris Matthews has an obsessive hatred of the Clintons.  Don't know why.  Don't care.  I would respect the man if he was just honest.  He is a closeted right winger.  He is openly misogynistic.

But his hypocrisy has to be addressed.
Well, it will have to be if it is Rudy vs Hillary.

Matthews has been trying to spin his open hostility toward Hillary as being a part of his anti-war stance. However occasionally his misogyny jumps out (e.g. shrill, nails on a chalkboard voice, his tete a tete with Delay, and his comment today that "people at Fenway behind me were saying we really can't have he as president, can way.).

And of course at least three times today, Matthews made a dig at Bill Clinton's basic morality.  "Does he believe in anything?"

So I would like to publicly challenge Matthews and if his producers are reading, to address his own public morality, misogyny and honesty.

Matthews is obviously bothered by Bill's "women" problem.
**So Mr. Holier than thou Catholic Matthews, what is your take on Rudy's women problem?  You never mention it.  Rudy was openly cheating on wife #2 and that seems to not bother you.  WHY?  Why can Rudy cheat, Rudy's wife be on her third marriage, and yet it's Hillary and her husband's morals and marriage that worry you?

Matthews is obviously upset about the war and never fails to mention how "Hillary is such a hawk" and is willing to keep our guys there for a long time.  
"So Mr. Anti-war Matthews, how come you openly admire Rudy's tough stand, really like McCain, and think Huckabee's got something really likable about him, and yet all three of these men make Hillary look like a dove?  Explain please."

Matthews really wants a hero to worship.  And it is clear he could never admire a woman or a democrat.  He likes heroic, tough guys.
"So Mr., I need a hero, Matthews, how do you juxtapose your "sunny nobility" comment about how you feel about George W with a man who blew up frogs for laughs, a man who thought firebranding butts in a fraternity was no worse than burning someone with a cigarette, mocking a woman going to be put to death?"  Really, how do you do it?
And it is obvious Mr. Matthews, you want to blame it all on Dick Cheney.  While I despise the VP, your president is every bit as nasty.  When are you going to address the truth.?

There are about a 100 more issues of hypocrisy Chris Matthews needs to face but I would be content if he addressed just these right now.

By the way, if indeed it is Hillary vs Rudy, I will be working my arse off for her (as I will if it is John vs Rudy or Obama vs Mitt or any combination.)  But I have to admit it, I look forward to seeing Matthews squirm through a Hillary vs Rudy.  How is he going to get on his "hate the hawk" bandwagon, or hate the marriage scandals,  when mentioning Hillary if her opponent is Rudy.

•  Tips are nice

  Challenging the hypocrisy of the same jerk who trashed Al Gore relentlessly, helped put this idiot into office and now plays "anti war" on his show, is satisfying even without tips.  

  Matthews (and his colleagues who drooled over the frat boy and trashed true patriots' candidacies) owes Americans an apology, not more of the same old, same old.

  by Jjc2006 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 03:39:09 PM PDT

  •  Good diary ........

    Poor Tweety.  He's soooooooo obviously obsesses with all things Clinton.  Never could get over not being asked into the administration.

    by Lying eyes on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 03:45:43 PM PDT

    •  I suspect Matthews

      has lived his whole life like his book says: like a campaign.  I think he is jealous that the Clintons are so good at it.

      I also think he projects. His constant "they have been planning this forever" and his delving into Hillary's motives since she was a girl, speaks volumes.

      I would bet a year's salary that the only reason Matthews went into the peace corps is that he didn't want to go to war and that would look better on his resume than "war protestor."

      by Jjc2006 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 03:56:38 PM PDT

      •  You're Watching Puffball...

        ...on MS-GOP  

        I think that pretty much explains it.  

        With the exception of Olbermann, their "token" E.R. Murrow...wish every network had one!  Keith is simply the best.  

        by celticmuse on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:19:42 PM PDT

    •  I was flipping around this afternoon

      and he had Dodd on.  It was the end of the interview and he said "thank you" to Dodd for being on the show, then he made some bizzaro "I like your haircut" comment and the proceeded to say it didn't cost $200.00 Then he spittled and drooled and they went to commercial.  Ugggg.

      by MadAsHellMaddie on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:05:48 PM PDT

      •  That drool thingy is yucky, no?

        by Lying eyes on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:08:14 PM PDT

        •  I feel like I need to shower

          when I see him.  A Silkwood Shower!

          by MadAsHellMaddie on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:22:24 PM PDT

•  I refuse to watch the smarmy sonofabitch

  he is such a slimy tool; he's beneath despicable.  Keith Olbermann is the one news guy I go to.

  by trashablanca on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 03:41:25 PM PDT

  •  re

    You left out the adj. "Assholey".

    by cookiesandmilk on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 03:57:20 PM PDT

•  Chris isn't phony antiwar

  He has two or three boys of draft age.  He is a misogynist though.

  by Dr Colossus on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 03:41:28 PM PDT

  •  there is no draft.....

    hmmmm.  Will they join the military?  I don't think so.

    by murrayewv on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 03:46:13 PM PDT

    •  He remembers the draft from his childhood

      It may be a unrealistic fear but a fear none the less.  Are you saying he is phony antiwar because his kids have not joined the military?  I'm not following.

      by Dr Colossus on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:34:24 PM PDT

      •  Yea, a lot of us

        remember the draft from our childhood.
        I am the same age as Matthews, raised not to far away from his all wasp neighborhood.

        Is one's anti war stance real because one has children?  Are you saying if one does not have children, specifically sons, they have no basis for anti war?

        Where was Matthews anti war stance in 2003 when he was still drooling over phony fighter pilot Bush and trashing Kerry?

        by Jjc2006 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:40:59 PM PDT

        •  I think his kids being that age make the war

          a real issue for him.  How many parents on this site wrote diaries/comments about how they would send their kids to canada if there was a draft?  It's a very real fear.  I am in no way implying that you can't be anti-iraq without having kids.  I don't have kids and I think consider myself anti-iraq.  I think he was one of the only people in the traditional tv media that asked questions about whether iraq was as dangerous as bush claimed it was.  I don't think he or the restof the chumps on tv questioned authority as hard as they should have but as I remember it he was one of the few that wasn't outright cheer leading.

          by Dr Colossus on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:00:17 PM PDT

          •  So you don't call

            his drooling admiration of Bush dressed in a flight suit, under a phony banner of MISSION ACCOMPLISHED cheerleading for the war.

            He described Bush as having a sunny nobility. And that's not promoting the man who manipulated this war.

            You cannot have it both ways.  

            by Jjc2006 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:06:58 PM PDT

            •  Did you read my post?

              I think he loved the photoop.  I think he also realized that if the war went badly then it would be remembered as a giant mistake.  The two are not mutually exclusive.

              by Dr Colossus on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:15:12 PM PDT

              •  Well, I disagree

                I watched Matthews drool that day.  I remember it.  He loved and admired the idiot in the flight suit.

                Yes, I think it is mutually exclusive to admire and drool over the man sending people's children to die in a war for profit and oil and then say you think it's a bad war.

                A war is an inanimate idea.  The action of waging war is man made.  And the action of waging a war based on lies, allowing other people's sons and daughters to die because of your lies and greed, is created by a human.

                How the hell can one say they hate the war and then drool over, admire with the words "sunny nobility" (as he applied to Bush) the man who is waging that war.  Sorry it does not compute for me.
                There is no defense for Matthews hypocritical stance.

                by Jjc2006 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:24:24 PM PDT

  •  Then why is he is

    enamored with Guiliani, McCain or Huckabee who have all said they will continue and even increase the Bush strategy?

    If Matthews was so anti war, why was he drooling over Bush in a flight suit?

    Just cause he has sons doesn't make him anti-war.  Caring about other people's sons and daughters and NOT supporting the right wing hawks every chance he gets, might show a little of that.  But essentially Matthews has shown over the years the only things he is real anti on is the Clintons, Al Gore and the Mommy party.

    by Jjc2006 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 03:52:47 PM PDT

    •  I think he is enamored with bush, guiliani etc

      because he loves any man who shows a lot of aggressive energy.  I don't know if that's how his dad or grandfathers acted but I assume he idealizes someone who was a very aggressive male that had little use for other people who were not similarly aggressive or are feminine, and by feminine I mean cares about someone other than themselves, in any way.  That's why I think he loves the republican 'daddy' party message and hates democrats and clinton.  He did drool over the carrier landing because it appealed to that part of his personality but he did say that if the war went badly that it would be remembered as one of the worst pr moves ever.

      by Dr Colossus on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:53:01 PM PDT

      •  Again

        that's total hypocrisy.

        There are people whose parents and grandparents were totally racist.  Does that excuse their racism?

        Why are you giving Matthews a pass. He is essentially saying he is anti war while supporting and cheering the warriors.

        That would be like someone who is watching two people fight a bloody battle while declaring they are a pacifist.

        Matthews is a hypocrite, and a liar, pure and simple.  If he truly as anti war he would be dissing and insulting Rudy and McCain ten times as much as his disses Hillary.

        by Jjc2006 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:10:26 PM PDT

        •  I'm not excusing his misogyny or anyone elses

          racism.  I've watched his show for many years and I'm explaining why I think he behaves the way he does.  He has repeatedly made comments about how this war is a mess that will go on for years.  I attribute that to his draft age children.  As a long time viewer that's my opinion.

          by Dr Colossus on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:42:38 PM PDT

          •  Well you have every right to that

            opinion.

            I strongly disagree.
            I don't think Chris Matthews has a sincere or honest bone in his body.  His kids will never go to war.  They are living high on the hog with daddy being one of Jack Welch's boys.

            Matthews is a hypocrite about the war.  If he really cared and worried about his kids or any kids going to war he would want the war to end.  He blasts Hillary about that every chance he gets and yet just today on another show he was proudly bragging how he supports Rudy.  Who the hell is more pro war, pro the Bush strategy , ready and willing to increase the war and spread to Iran than Rudy?  So if Chris Matthews was really worried about his kids going to war why would he be publicly supporting Rudy?

            by Jjc2006 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:54:12 PM PDT

•  The worst part about Matthews is that

  he seems to be utterly unintelligent.

  by rigso on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 03:46:31 PM PDT

  •  Well that but to

    me what is worse is the hypocrisy.
    The republican ranks are filled with hypocrisy.

    Matthews may claim to be centrist or left or whatever but it is becoming more and more clear he is a total hypocrite.

    by Jjc2006 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 03:54:07 PM PDT

•  Tweet is at least consistent in this case---

  he is not a fan of the Clintons, to say the least.  If you don't recall, he did nightly shows for months covering nothing but Bill's "issues" and impeachment.  Solid.  I think he believes Bill to be a tad slimy.  And he's now transferring that vitriol to Bill's female counterpart.
   I agree with him on this statement tho:  "If the Dems nominate Hillary, they'll get what they deserve".  

  by dotster on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 03:57:58 PM PDT

  •  As opposes to what

    Rudy?

    Are you telling me that just because you don't agree with a candidate, it's OK if a pundit slimes them UNFAIRLY?  
    Or are you one of the progressives who buys the right's talking points?

    by Jjc2006 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:04:09 PM PDT

    •  Agree with you on phony progressives

      Those that agree with the rethug talking points are in fight allies of those same goons.  Matthews epitomizes this strategy...he makes arguments that some people support...like the anti-war type arguments.. but his past pander to Bush is forgotten.  Then he appears to support Obama...all part of the plan to trash Dems...a refined art...He is paid disinformation artist.  He lies and misrepresents...and gets paid for it...not just for his show...but for his high paid rethug speeches, on the side.

      by lily15 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:26:11 PM PDT

      •  You are so right

        Matthews is a paid rethug...and he uses his show to play hypocrite.  Sadly, he gets away with it with some.

        I think he needs to be called on it PUBLICLY.

        by Jjc2006 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:42:11 PM PDT

  •  I can't stand the way he looks at politics too

    but I also strongly agree with dems deserve what they get with Hillary.

    by nevadadem on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:18:16 PM PDT

    •  Because like Tweety you hate Hillary.

      by otto vb vs on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:37:16 PM PDT

•  Matthews is a car accident

  I watch Hardball because its like watching a car accident - I was and sort of am a political junkie but Chris Matthews is the most repetitive bastard I've ever seen on television.  I guess he has had serious problems with Bill Clinton but he's been kind of easy on Hillary Clinton - but sometimes he is so completely off the mark you wonder about his mental health - like today he said that France's new leader Sarkozy showed politicians everywhere how to respond to questions about their personal lives and that he handled himself well...WHAT THE FUCK? I haven't seen a politician meltdown like that since...ever, or since the last time I saw videotapes of Richard Nixon's Watergate period.  Sarkozy collapsed like a house of cards.  What was Matthews smoking last night?  I switched over during the world series cuz the Red Sox looked like they had it locked up and was amazed at how mentally unbalanced Sarkozy appeared - his head was shaking throughout the entire airplane interview and then he looked like he was having a nervous breakdown when the interview was in Paris.  I wouldn't want that guy in charge of my kids baseball team let alone the leader of my country.  In contrast Matthews says that Clinton didn't handle that subject matter well.  He didn't?  Last time I checked Clinton is the most popular ex-president in the country living or dead or right behind JFK - I guess he did something right.    

  by slipbabyslip555 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 03:59:49 PM PDT

  •  Trainwreck

    Good post.

    by egarratt on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:09:12 PM PDT

•  he may be an opportunist

  but he's smart enough to get many of you to watch Hardball.  

  This is our twisted media at it's finest. As if Matthews slobbery opinions are worth the crap they are sponsored by.

  by lisastar on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:12:52 PM PDT

  •  For political junkies

    our choices are FOX, Matthews or Wolf?  You tell me which to watch?

    by Jjc2006 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:42:39 PM PDT

•  Tweety just opened his show with his take

  on what Obama needs to say to aggressively take on HRC.

  Funny, I ended up screaming at the screen:

  Tweety, you f'ing idiot, everything you just said has been said and much more skillfully by John Edwards!

  Tweety needs some serious intervention, the guy is going completely off the deep end.

  How can he possibly believe he is contributing to the conversation in any way, shape or form?

  What a schmuck. Just can't wait to see what a biased mess he makes of the MSN debate.

  by AntKat on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:16:16 PM PDT

  •  But Tweety doesn't like

    John.  Sure he doesn't hate him as much as he hates the Clintons, but I guarantee you he will get the same treatment Al Gore got if John gets the nod.

    by Jjc2006 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:43:44 PM PDT

    •  Yea but.....he fawn's over Elizabeth

      Misogyny thy name is "Tweety"

      by AntKat on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:34:26 PM PDT

•  Tweety is certified Clinton hater.

  His misogynism is bizarre. He even used a clip of Sarkozy giving the finger to Lesley Stahl to justify an attack on Bill Clinton whom he blamed for the impeachment farce. This is what we are up against guys this guy is not on the side of the democrats. Once he gets the line up he wants, his hero Rudy versus poor little Obama, where do you think thats going. Hillary of course would give him the finger.

  by otto vb vs on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:36:18 PM PDT

  •  Exactly....

    I think the ONLY reason that Matthews is rooting for Obama is because he thinks Obama has the least chance of winning against Rudy (don't know if I agree, but it's what Matthews thinks).

    But he is definitely SICK and perverted when it comes to the Clintons. His obsession with their sex lives and their marriage is over the line.  But what makes it so hypocritical is that his new hero, Rudy, is so far out there when it comes to his sex life and Matthews totally ignores Rudy's and Rudy's wives three marriages.  He also ignores Rudy's penchant for cross dressing.

    So it's time voters called Matthews on his hypocrisy.
    I don't care if democrats are for or not for Hillary. ALL of us need to stop Matthews (and Carlson and Russert) and their hypocrisy of personal trashing of one side only.  

    by Jjc2006 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:49:23 PM PDT

  •  Tweety voted for Bush

    Tweety has admitted he voted for Bush...He also gushes over masculine men,  just as he did when Bush in codpiece strutted on the aircraft carier.

    Tweety hates Hillary and loves Rudy.     He does not like the war in Iraq but he is otherwise a very retro guy.....

    He has refused to take any action to examine the Rudy hagiographya and will let him skate.  His diatribes against Hillary will only escalate.

    by MKS on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:04:33 PM PDT

    •  Question

      Did Tweety admit he voted for Bush twice? I know he admitted to voting for Bush over Gore (he hated Gore almost as much as he hated the Clintons -- guilt by association I guess), but what about in '04? Is he just a down and dirty Dem hater?

      by livosh1 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:22:41 PM PDT

      •  Good question...

        I heard him admit to voting for Bush over Gore.  And I think his hate for Gore was more than association with the Clintons.
        He also trashed Kerry before the '04 elections.  I think he was still calling Bush a hero, and saying the only people that didn't like W were the "whackos on the left."  

        Matthews is a right wing tool.

        by Jjc2006 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:26:36 PM PDT

        •  It's also personal with Tweety

          He wanted to be Clinton's press secretary in a big way, and was rejected.

          by livosh1 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:40:58 PM PDT

•  Matthews is deeply troubled

  in his soul about Bill Clinton's BJ.  Matthews can't stop talking about it, can't stop dreaming about it.  At every opportunity, he brings up The Clenis.

  The man is sick.

  Bob Somerby of the Daily Howler has Matthews' number!

  by Radiowalla on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 04:47:39 PM PDT

  •  He even talked about it in his show today

    His father or someone in his close family must have cheated and wrecked his life or the life of someone close to him.  He definitely has some serious women/marriage issues.

    by Dr Colossus on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:01:44 PM PDT

    •  Why doesn't he treat

      Rudy with the same attitude then if it's about the cheating.  He gives him a pass.  They never even bring up the fact that Rudy's cheated on wives and been married so many times.  You'd think the Clintons would get some credit for staying together, sticking it out and valuing marriage.

      by churchlady on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:52:17 PM PDT

      •  Exactly

        Rudy purposely denigrated his wife and children by announcing their divorce on television before even telling his second wife that she was done.

        And Rudy is as pro war as it gets.  

        So Matthews is appalled by Hillary's hawkishness and obsessed with the Clinton marriage and trashes them with every unsavory, derogatory comment and just today brags on how he supports Rudy.
        If that is not the definition of HYPOCRITE I don't know what is.

        by Jjc2006 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:57:09 PM PDT

      •  DOn't know

        His reaction to Libby calling up his bosses trying to get him fired really riled him up.  He seems to get similarly fired up about clinton.  Maybe clinton or someone close to him lied to him about the affair and this is his way of getting payback.  I think he is giving Rudy a pass because he is the 'hero' of 911.  Plus he also sports bush's trademark hypermacho BS which matthews seems to get off on.

        by Dr Colossus on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 06:11:32 PM PDT

  •  He's not deeply troubled

    It's an act.  A scripted persona whose only purpose is to trash Democrats.  Period.  He is paid big time to do this.  The only reason we have Keith is because of his high ratings.  Keith is the only honest reporter with his own show. The others are there to push the Rethug narrative.  Just pay attention to the narrative.  Nothing spontaneous about it.  Attack Attack Attack Democrats, especially Dems who can get elected.  Especially Hillary.  Soften her up. And he's getting worse.  It is so transparent.

    by lily15 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:34:36 PM PDT

•  Matthews is a Republican so

  everything must be seen from the prism of the right.  The objective of the show is to push the Republican line.  Matthews's brother ran for lt. governor on the Republican ticket in Penn I think.  

  He was on Mad Money today and essentially stated he supported Guiliani, the real "man."  The Dems were the mommy party who only held meetings and the REthugs were the party of leadership, who produce leaders.  The partisanship is disgusting.  That's what he said.  It is such transparent Democratic party bashing, I fail to understand how anyone can see him as anything more than a soldier in the Rethug army.  He pushes their narrative.  And a big part of that is Hillary bashing.  And the only reason he pushes Obama is so he can attack Hillary.  He is a real piece of work.  Also, I hear he gets paid a lot by Rethugs to give "speechs."  He's on their payroll.  And does what he is told.

  by lily15 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:20:49 PM PDT

  •  He has said the same thing

    on his own show.

    And that is why I wrote this diary.  He is using his "pretend" anti war stance to trash Hillary Clinton.  Now I know there are some here who dislike Hillary, or who think she is too hawkish.  That's Matthews whole gig right now.  How can the anti war left keep supporting Hillary.  He acts appalled by it but he is ready to support the most hawkish guy of all.

    He trashes the Clinton's marriage problems?
    I seriously want someone to smack him with a a big "HUH? How the hell can you trash the Clinton's marriage and admire Rudy....Rudy did the same thing as Bill did....cheated on his wife.  ONLY RUDY made a conscious decision to rub it in his kids and wife's face.  Bill got caught and humiliated his wife and daughter.  
    Rudy PURPOSELY humiliated his wife and chidren.

    Someone needs to shove the facts down Matthews hypocritic face.

    by Jjc2006 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:31:49 PM PDT

•  He is the worst hypocrite!

  He hates Clinton, and I think it might be that he was expected to become his press secretary but it did not happen.

  He is full of hate, he will continue to trash the Clintons if she is the candidate.  U can bet on that!

  by GUGA on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:31:51 PM PDT

  •  He was never expected to be anything.

    He worked for Carter writing speeches.  And the Clintons certainly didn't like Carter, for good reason.
    Matthews was never in the loop with the Clintons.  He's been a rethug undercover.  Matthews opposed Al Gore and trashed him too.  He is a tool.

    by lily15 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:39:07 PM PDT

•  He secretly wishes he was Bill Clinton

  A few months ago Cris was interviewing the Obama song girl and the Guilana song girls (you know, the entire group of them). He was so blatant about how "young and perky, and beautiful they all are." It was so embarrasing to watch this old has been, acting like such a transparent fool, lusting openly in front of the entire world. I think he just hates it that Bill got all the girls that he will never have.  Too bad Cris. Bill has it all, he's a genius, has a great partner who matches his own intellect, he has more charm than the law should allow, and right about now, he sure does look good to America. Real good.

  When the religious right got a good grip on our political system, everyone started thinking they had the right to crawl into the bedrooms of our politicians. I was happy to see the leader of France, get up and walk out of an interview when asked about his personal relationship with his wife.  GOOD FOR HIM. It's like no one has any class anymore. Lease of all Cris (I wish I was Bill Clinton) Matthews.  

  Tip O'Neil turns in his gave several times a day, I'm sure when he sees Cris blabbering mouth off.

  Badabing

  by Badabing on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 05:59:06 PM PDT