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  • Check out who Romney has advising him:

    "I want bin Laden's head shipped back in a box filled with dry ice," Black told them, one of the agents later reported. "I want to be able to show bin Laden's head to the president."

  • Kevin Drum and The Carpetbagger Report pick some of the worst blog posts ever.
  • If you missed Markos on Bill Maher last night, there are a couple of clips on YouTube.
  • Last weekend I got on a weird pizza linking kick, and ablington helped out with a couple more links. Today: Japanese pizza.
  • And somewhat related, this look at a 1977 JC Penney catalog is one of the funniest things I've read recently. It was posted a couple weeks ago but seems to have been making the rounds this week for some reason - one of the people I sent it to after reading it said he'd gotten in from like 3 people in 15 minutes. There's some kind of network study to be done here.
  • Rudy Giuliani: still a liar, Joe Biden edition.
  • In Pakistan:

    Gen. Pervez Musharraf declared a state of emergency in Pakistan on Saturday, suspending the constitution, replacing the chief justice before a crucial Supreme Court ruling on his future as president, and cutting communications in the capital. Paramilitary troops and police swarmed the capital.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:00 AM PDT.

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  •  George W. Bush is a coward (7+ / 0-)

    that’s the title of this diary which I posted around 1:30 AM

    Comments will be read, at least by me.  And of course I will not reject recommendations, either on the diary or on this comment or both.

    There has already been some interesting discussion.


    Those who can, do. Those who can do more, TEACH! If impeachment is off the table, so is democracy

    by teacherken on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:00:54 AM PDT

    •  teacherken, did we nuke Syria? (1+ / 0-)
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      The Jerusalem Post says it.

      Bush a coward?  Maniac as well.

      Today, 11/3/07, 3847 Americans, and untold Iraqis are dead, tens of thousands more maimed. What are YOU going to do today to help end the Bush/Republican war?

      by boilerman10 on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:34:49 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  strongly doubt it (0+ / 0-)

        if nukes had been used, several things would have happened

        1. there would have been seismic reports, unless it were an incredibly tiny nuke -  anything over 1 kiloton should cause a seismic event.  Granted, there are nukes smaller, but they might not have been sufficient
        1. there would have been evidence of radiation, and someone would be reporting that
        1. someone somewhere would have reported the mushroom cloud  

        I could be wrong, but I strongly doubt it

        Those who can, do. Those who can do more, TEACH! If impeachment is off the table, so is democracy

        by teacherken on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 12:23:25 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  also, note sourcing of nuclear story (0+ / 0-)

        is indirect, J Post reporting from Al Jazeera

        one bomb of sufficient conventional explosive force could have done the necessary damage, and we have conventional bombs of up to 15 tons or more, and if the building were above ground and not below ground that would be a sufficient blast to flatten even the normal containment structure for a nuclear reactor.

        Those who can, do. Those who can do more, TEACH! If impeachment is off the table, so is democracy

        by teacherken on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 12:25:35 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  That is possible... (0+ / 0-)

          I recall aerial engineering in Vietnam for "Instant LZ" prep using 10000 lb blockbusters, and these mammoth 12,000 and 15,000 pound daisy cutters.

          WHAT. A. BANG. THEY. MADE.

          Today, 11/3/07, 3847 Americans, and untold Iraqis are dead, tens of thousands more maimed. What are YOU going to do today to help end the Bush/Republican war?

          by boilerman10 on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 03:47:08 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Lots of diaries attaching Feinstein and Schumer (3+ / 0-)
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    IhateBush, GreyHawk, dotster

    Feingold gets a pass.

    •  Wait, Feingold is voting for the AG? I totally (0+ / 0-)

      missed that.

      •  Unclear. (1+ / 0-)
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        He issued a statement yesterday saying he couldn't decide.

        It provided nice cover for Schumer & Feinstein.

        •  Feingold (3+ / 0-)
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          mcfly, amRadioHed, masslib

          has been pretty consistent in his opinion that the president has a right to his/her own cabinet appointments. That's not new for Feingold at all, though I realize it's very frustrating for some people here.

          I'm not shocked at his current position. It's consistent with his past positions on presidential appointments.

          •  Consistent, and consistently infuriating. (2+ / 0-)
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            Spit, dotster

            It's like Kagro's been saying - if Feingold can't understand that Bush's nominations are just a different category than those from previous presidents, he doesn't have the judgment of a damn turnip.  Ok, the turnip part is me, but Kagro's point that this is just different means that supposed consistency is in fact abdication of responsibility.

            •  I agree (1+ / 0-)
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              to some extent. On the other hand, frankly, I'm not nearly as worked up about Mukasey getting through as many folks here, mostly because I think the case can be made that it's just as damaging to the Constitution  (or even moreso) to have Bush simply running the AG office for 14 months through surrogates, without congress approving anybody. In this case, I think we're just sort of fucked either way, bluntly.

              Feingold figures the constitutional principle, as he reads it, stands even in the case of an out of control executive. I don't agree with him entirely (particularly in his reading), but I also can't condemn that entirely, either, even while I find it incredibly frustrating sometimes.

              •  This is one of the many situations (1+ / 0-)
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                in which I'm not so much worked up about Mukasey getting confirmed as I am about the individual Dems voting for it.  I'm not sure of the logic behind this position, or if there is such a logic, but basically my thinking is, he's going to get through, and on an instrumental level that might not suck any more than the alternatives, so I'm not so much focused on him specifically.  But I still think it's an example of horrifically bad judgment by any Dem who votes for him, and I'm pissed at them for that.

              •  I think it's more damaging. (1+ / 0-)
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                Bush and his surrogates are going to be running the AG office unchecked with or without Mukasey holding the title.

                With Mukasey holding the title, the already underperforming Congress gets time to throw up its hands at the ongoing DOJ disaster, and claim the "new AG" needs time to work on the problems.

                Without Mukasey holding the title, there is no such excuse, and the ongoing DOJ disaster remains on their plate, to either fester or be addressed on their watch, where it belongs.

                The DOJ needs to be put in receivership, and pretending all's well by sweeping it under some new AG's rug just doesn't cut it.

                Gonzales' resignation was taken by this Congress as a signal that the DOJ wasn't going to present a problem for them any more. Mukasey's confirmation -- indeed anyone's confirmation -- will only compound that.

                As soon as there's a name with the title, Congress will wash its hands of the problems there, except to the extent that individual Members can generate some positive press by bashing the new sucker, or the DOJ in general if it's "too soon" to hit Mukasey.

                Feingold's reasoning here is consistent, no doubt. But consistency has to be worth something in order to be commendable.

                If you're sitting with both thumbs up your ass when someone tosses you a ball, do you keep your thumbs where they are for the sake of "consistency?"

          •  But that isn't what he said. (1+ / 0-)
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            He blathered on about how this was the best nominee we could expect. And then he played Hamlet.


  •  Huh? Sirius Black? (2+ / 0-)
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    GreyHawk, masslib

    Just kidding :)

    "They're not asking if there are Communists in the Defense Department, they're asking how many." - The Manchurian Candidate

    by bhagamu on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:01:39 AM PDT

  •  Ha ha. (4+ / 0-)
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    GreyHawk, Hannibal, sherlyle, dotster

    What would bin Laden's head buy you, Cofer?

    Bush doesn't give a shit about bin Laden.

    This is our chief super-spy? A guy who can't even tell whether or not the president is bullshitting the nation, pulling its leg about wanting to catch bin Laden?

    Gee, some "operator."

  •  Shit- I remember that jcpenney catalog LOL! (6+ / 0-)

    The cowboy look was in and I bought a pair of cowboy boots..( I live in NH) Should've saved them but then people would think I was a Bushie.. LOL!

    "Time is for careful people, not passionate ones"

    by roseeriter on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:04:39 AM PDT

    •  I have a terrible cold today and I'm trying (3+ / 0-)

      not to cough. But laughing is very similar to coughing and everytime I'd start giggling, it would turn into a cough. And all the while, I'm trying to be quiet as well.

      What a hoot. No wonder I stopped shopping there.

      Is Hillary a corporate Democrat? A non-supporter answers:

      by lorelynn on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:28:06 AM PDT

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    •  That was a real hoot. (1+ / 0-)
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      But we used to shop at Sears mostly.  At one point everyone I knew had the same damn plaid sofa from Sears...and occasionally you can still see someone finally extracting it from the basement to put it out to the curb.

      At the doctor's office recently I found a 30 year old National Geographic.  The stories weren't too bad, but the ads were HILARIOUS.  It was a big sale for a 3 minute phone call to India for $10.  Giant ad.

      Imprisonment without trial, and even examination under torture, were common practice. A Man for All Seasons

      by mem from somerville on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:40:11 AM PDT

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  •  Teacher's Lounge... (1+ / 0-)
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    GreyHawk open.  Today's essay is Gifted and Talented.  Links and community as well, as always.

    We encourage non-teachers to participate.  We'de especially like students to participate.  We are, after all, talking about your education...or that of your children and/or future children.

  •  Good thing I spent $50 bucks today (3+ / 0-)
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    GreyHawk, Hannibal, mango

    for 15 gallons of gas. it'll be $75 tomorrow probably.

  •  In Pakistan today -- (6+ / 0-)

    here next year?

    I scroll for pooties

    by aepm on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:12:11 AM PDT

    •  I have a subscription to (0+ / 0-)

      AlJazeera International through Real Networks.  The video service is $5.99/month,  I get their great English service whenever I want.

      This morning they have covered Pakistan extensively (now limits are imposed on the press, so there one can't be sure about the quality of the reporting).  They just played Mushareff's address to the nation.

      What really caught my attention today, though, was a report on "reeducation" camps in Thailand.  The military puts suspected insurgents in camps with no walls ,bars or anything like that for 30 days of "reeducation".  The meat of the report was involuntary incarceration (even without walls, bars, wire) with no charges.  

      It was chilling to realize how relatively benign that was, how SOME in the US would have no objection.

  •  Edits to Wikipedia (2+ / 0-)
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    amRadioHed, GreyHawk

    I'm not going anywhere. I'm standing up, which is how one speaks in opposition in a civilized world. - Ainsley Hayes

    by jillian on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:12:13 AM PDT

  •  Poor India (3+ / 0-)
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    mcfly, GreyHawk, Hannibal

    Pakistan to the left and Burma to the right.

  •  I fear that at some point (3+ / 0-)
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    GreyHawk, sherlyle, drmah

    the west , nato or us , are going to need to go into Pakistan and grab control of the nukes . When/if that happens , a Muslim country will have its nukes taken away or the leaders replaced from the outside , the "balance" between it and India will be upset to say the least . What a total mess I foresee .  

    Insert witty & insightful comment here ^

    by indycam on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:15:22 AM PDT

  •  Its been a while since (4+ / 0-)
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    GreyHawk, Hannibal, sherlyle, blue vertigo

    I posted a diary.

    But the story I read today about Gen. Honore extolling the virtues of waterbording to school kids just hacked me off.

    Go read my diary and tell me what you think. Or just be snarky. I'm all for both.

    "She was very young,he thought,...she did not understand that to push an inconvenient person over a cliff solves nothing." -1984

    by aggressiveprogressive on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:15:23 AM PDT

  •  El Chupacabra mystery solved (1+ / 0-)
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    One unlubed finger inserted into the anus can coax brillance out of almost anything.

    by Hannibal on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:15:41 AM PDT

  •  Romney is opportunistic, whoring scum (6+ / 0-)

    figures he'd hire Blackwater CEOs. What next, some Nicaraguan Contras and some of Pinochet's military advisors in his kitchen cabinet.

    His chickenhawk kids are scum, too!

    Stop bitching and start a revolution!

    by Randian on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:16:50 AM PDT

  •  A two-fer: More fear-mongering plus (4+ / 0-)
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    seeker, kfred, sherlyle, blue vertigo

    a possible vision of the future.

    First, in my morning diary, I posted about the curious pipe bomb intercepted at the nation's largest nuclear plant, and figure it's more likely to be more fear-mongering.

    There's a longer analysis of the same over on ePluribus Media, too, with additional refs.

    Second, a piece I couldn't post here 'cuz I'd used my daily diary is my musing on the use and meaning of the word conviction, and how we may see it applied in the future. It's posted over on ePluribus Media, and has a video clip and excerpt from the transcript of "Judgement at Nuremberg" as well as a pic I compiled of works by Dood Abides pertaining to the arrest of the Bush cabal. :)  Enjoy, and remember to praise the Dood abundantly, as well as visit his site occassionally (or even frequently).

    Please check 'em out. And thanks.

    Never, never brave me, nor my fury tempt:
      Downy wings, but wroth they beat;
    Tempest even in reason's seat.

    by GreyHawk on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:17:05 AM PDT

  •  Pootie cartoon over on (3+ / 0-)
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    mem from somerville, Hannibal, mango homepage called "This kitty can't wait for breakfast" is a hoot.

    "Go well through life"-Me (As far as I know)

    by MTmofo on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:23:55 AM PDT

  •  Where's the liberal bias at again? (6+ / 0-)

    The headline to this story caught my eye. There's a definite bias, but it sure as hell isn't a liberal one.

    Bush Defends Mukasey, Chastises Senate Democrats

    Yes, those silly Senate Democrats need to be chastised for daring to get uppity with the Decider, maybe they could use a time out. Stuff like this makes me really really want to see a Senator respond to the President with two simple words: Fuck Off.

    One unlubed finger inserted into the anus can coax brillance out of almost anything.

    by Hannibal on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:24:44 AM PDT

  •  LOL about the... (4+ / 0-)
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    osterizer, noweasels, LibChicAZ, chigh

    1977 JC Penney catalog! Loved what its writer had to say about the clothes! Really took me back because that's the year I started in college!

    "We are all New Orleans now."--Barbara O'Brien

    by Louisiana 1976 on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:25:41 AM PDT

    •  JC Penney (3+ / 0-)

      Was the only store my parents had a credit card for.....year after year all my school clothes came from that place.  So....I could totally relate having been a teen in the 70's.  Hilarious and so, so sad.

      Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known---Carl Sagan

      by LibChicAZ on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:32:30 AM PDT

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      •  Yep-- (1+ / 0-)
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        I was kinda hoping more girls' and women's styles would be shown because they'd have brought back memories of what I used to wear, but I guess since it was by a guy.... (I didn't have a boyfriend back them so nobody to do the Unisex thing with.)

        "We are all New Orleans now."--Barbara O'Brien

        by Louisiana 1976 on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 01:22:41 PM PDT

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    •  WOW --- (2+ / 0-)
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      Scout Finch, Louisiana 1976
      My aunt and uncle had that ugly barrel dining-room set.  Now I know where they got it...
    •  I started High School in 77. (1+ / 0-)
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      Louisiana 1976

      My dad had one of those orange jumpsuits, although admittedly, he mostly wore it around the house or to work on the car.

      Dad and both brothers wore leisure suits, and if I remember correctly, at least one of them owned one in that color green.  

      The clothes my brothers hated the most were the "Toughskins" brand of jeans that in retrospect, certainly were high-waisted.  And since they were both tall and skinny kids, their skinny, tall jeans were frequently bought in the girls department.

      Honestly, I'm not all that embarrassed about those clothes or the ones my mom made me during that time.  My favorite was a baby-doll style top that had Holly Hobbies on it!  Or maybe the one I wore with my orange hiphuggers!

      I also laughed until I had tears when I saw this...the pics were a nice blast from the past and the blogger's snarky remarks were great fun!

  •  re youtube: anyone know why (0+ / 0-)

    Safari (Mac) only plays SOME Youtube clips?

    I've never seen this problem before today... some clips display and play right away.   Some do not at all.

    I couldn't see either of the Kos/Maher clips

  •  Pakistan (2+ / 0-)
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    seeker, timbuck

    Looks like Democracy is on the march in Pakistan. NOT!

     What if the government falls there? The next strongest political force in Pakistan are fundamentalist muslims.

    The 2nd Red String Conspiracy

    by gjohnsit on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:30:55 AM PDT

  •  musharraf = bush? (0+ / 0-)

    is there a significant difference?  neither likes their country's constitution, both diddle with the supreme court to get desired results, they treat their militaries like their personal goon squads . . .

  •  Come on, USNA!!! (3+ / 0-)
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    mcfly, Julie Gulden, blue vertigo

    Beat Notre Dame!  

    1-20-09 The Darkness Ends "Where cruelty exists, law does not." ~ Alberto Mora

    by noweasels on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:33:46 AM PDT

  •  Didn't Biden and Dodd (0+ / 0-)

    Mention a thing or two about Pakistan the other night???  Like we should be paying attention to them instead of Iran?

    How is Condoleeza going screw this up too?

    Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known---Carl Sagan

    by LibChicAZ on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:34:36 AM PDT

  •  Poignant story/poetry from a soldier's suicide (0+ / 0-)
    Soldier returns from Iraq, racked with guilt after mistakenly killing an Iraqi civilian doctor at a checkpoint.

  •  Super 70s (1+ / 0-)
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    And somewhat related, this look at a 1977 JC Penney catalog is one of the funniest things I've read recently.

    The people who spent the 1970s shopping out of JC Penney catalogs, wearing polyester, leisure suits and orange jumpsuits, were the ones for whom the 1960s Cultural Revolution was just something else to watch on TV... while voting for Nixon. They're the ones who think back to the '70s and say "how embarassing".

    The ones who really surfed the wave of unprecedented personal freedom remember more denim, suede, other natural fibers - what they can remember, anyway. They they voted for Reagan as the ultimate kink.

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

    by DocGonzo on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:43:58 AM PDT

    •  No, Doc (0+ / 0-)

      Most of us natural-fiber types voted Carter. Reagan's genius was to convince the JC Penney's shoppers to vote as if they were Saks Fifth Avenue shoppers.

      "Think of something to make the ridiculous look ridiculous." -- Molly Ivins

      by dumpster on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 01:54:27 PM PDT

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    •  Hardly. (1+ / 0-)
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      My family frequently bought items from Sears (either via the catalog or at the store.)  While my parents may not have marched in any protests back then (doubt that there were any marches to attend in our area), they certainly never voted for Reagan or any other GOPer.
       BTW, my mom was featured in a photo (appearing on MSNBC) of last weekend's anti-war protest.

      My Karma just ran over your Dogma

      by FoundingFatherDAR on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 03:05:33 PM PDT

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  •  Article: Debate attacks don't dent Hillary's lead (0+ / 0-)

    Hillary still with huge lead

    It's definitely shaping-up as being a real barn-burner of a "Bash Hillary" weekend here at DK.

    Just thought that presenting the initial effects (or lack of same) of the 'confront Hillary' efforts by the Obama and Edwards campaigns -- as well as the efforts of their supporters (and other anti-Clintonites) to springboard off-of the debate and the subsequent 'Gotcha!' video(s) -- could be useful in the discussion.

    •  So, uh, I take it (2+ / 0-)
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      Dump Terry McAuliffe, dotster

      you didn't read Markos post late last night about her debate performance and the emerging media narrative?

      •  No, I read it -- it was a good post... (0+ / 0-)

        ...just following-up on it.

        I am quite sure, Miss Laura, you also read Hunter's post, Kos' "devastating" one-word (+ video) post, and have seen a number of the recommended diaries which are taking shots at Clinton since the debate and Edwards' video's release.

        Kos' point is correct -- the media is doing what the media does.  All news media benefit from a 'competitive' race. Including Kos, which could explain a 'devastating' post followed by the post which you cited in your reply.

        One post, however, does not a non-bashing weekend make.  I never said Kos would be leading the bashing, but that doesn't mean that the Hillary bashing has not commenced on the site.

        And I'm ok with that.  I don't work for Hillary and don't feel 'threatened' by the mudslinging.  Just rolling up my sleeves and having fun along with everyone else.  

  •  Making fun of '70s clothes (0+ / 0-)

    . . .is soooo early '90s.

    You campaign with the media you have, not the one you wish you had. I wish my two favorite candidates would figure that out.

    by cardinal on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:47:11 AM PDT

  •  Teleport Feinstein Now! (0+ / 0-)


    There's no such thing as teleportation?

    Never mind.

  •  Man....and I thought the 80s clothes were bad... (0+ / 0-)

    this takes the cake! What were people thinking?!!!?!!!?

    "People place their hand on the Bible and swear to uphold the Constitution. They don't put their hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible." --J.R.

    by michael1104 on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:48:37 AM PDT

  •  Markos was on Bill Maher? Wow. (0+ / 0-)

    I'm not worthy of this place.

    Quinctilius Varus, give me back my legions.

    by Ice Blue on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:49:35 AM PDT

  •  I really have no problem (0+ / 0-)

    with taking out Osama Bin Laden.

    He murdered 3000+ people. He's a terrorist. Kill him.

    The Republicans, however, have no intention of doing that. I mind the dishonesty of their statement more than the sentiment expressed.

  •  GO BLUE! (0+ / 0-)

    Michigan blue, that is.

    Excellent photos of nature on Great Lakes, Great Times, Great Scott | -7.00, -4.62

    by ScottyUrb on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:52:11 AM PDT

  •  Can anyone in Oklahom speak (0+ / 0-)

    to this (from Democracy Now!):

    AMY GOODMAN: Deepak, voter ID laws, how do they affect the immigrant community?

    DEEPAK BHARGAVA: This is a huge new issue, so states are passing voter ID laws across the country that may be targeting immigrants, to start, but their effect is not only to discourage immigrants, but low-income people, African Americans, seniors, anybody who’s unlikely to have documentation or driver’s license, are being discouraged from participating. And it should be noted that it’s really extending to the mainstream community. So, Oklahoma, a law went into effect yesterday that would make it a crime, with up to a year in prison, to transport an undocumented immigrant, even if you're saving them from a fire, from a flood, taking them to the emergency room. So we’re seeing a level of criminalization that’s not just going to chill immigrant communities.

    AMY GOODMAN: So you see a person who is in a car accident --


    AMY GOODMAN: -- and you want to race them to the hospital --

    DEEPAK BHARGAVA: Yes, and it would be a crime --

    AMY GOODMAN: -- you’re supposed to ask them for their papers.

    DEEPAK BHARGAVA: You’re supposed to ask them for their papers, and if they’re undocumented, you’re supposed to leave them at the side of the road.

    "Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other possibilities." -- Winston Churchill

    by Spud1 on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:53:45 AM PDT

    •  oops! (0+ / 0-)

      That's waaaay too close to the good Samaritan story.
      Even the far right will have a problem with that, won't they??  Please say yes.

      Moderation in all things-NOT

      by Julie Gulden on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 02:34:44 PM PDT

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      •  Well, no. No one forced them to come here (0+ / 0-)

        illegally. And if they hadn't, they wouldn't have been in the car wreck, would they have? Your average right winger doesn't care about most anyone else, no matter who they are.

        It's called compassionate conservatism. They conserve their compassion for those that really matter - people just like them.

        "Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other possibilities." -- Winston Churchill

        by Spud1 on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 05:21:44 PM PDT

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  •  Serious Rudy Giuliani lies exposed (1+ / 0-)
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    Scout Finch

    "We would cause tyrants in the Middle East to laugh at our failed resolve" - G.W.Bush So we're staying in Iraq so Duhbya doesn't get laughed at?!

    by Lefty Coaster on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 11:57:28 AM PDT

  •  Obama, an absolute MUST READ! (1+ / 0-)
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    Here is an excellent article by Andrew Sullivan, which offers hope for a future in which the United States of America may once again be United.  

    It highlights why some of us on the left and right, Democrat and Republican, believe that Barack Obama and his candidacy for the president, offer an opportunity to put this protracted and bitterly destructive culture war behind us, and move this country towards a fresh new dawn in the 21st-century.  

    It's all here, race, religion and our salvation as a nation.  

    I urge everyone to read it.  


    Goodbye to All That


    •  and other recent diaries have featured (1+ / 0-)
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      the NYTimes article which details why many of the brightest foreign policy minds in the country are with the Obama campaign.  They respect his vision and believe him to be the candidate who will bring real leadership change, which will reverberate around the world.

  •  I'm certainly no fan of mitt... (1+ / 0-)
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    ... nor any republican, but, um, isn't that the attitude re: bin Laden that we WANT from our politicians? As opposed to the "I don't really know where he is; I don't spend much time thinking about him" attitude of our dictator?

  •  Miss Laura, I got the JC Penney catalog (2+ / 0-)
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    osterizer, justalittlebitcrazy

    email as well and I laughed so hard I think I had a small tear rolling down my cheek.  I think I'll go back and look again.  The velour his and hers jumpers are the best.

  •  you didn't say (0+ / 0-)

    Allison Stewart was on as well. Ouch!

  •  Pet peeve I just must get off my chest (1+ / 0-)
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    The correct spelling is "disastrous."  NOT "disasterous!"

    I seem to be seeing this pop up in more and more places, not just dKos.  Actually, at first I thought it must simply be a Dubya joke, like he was caught mispronouncing the word a la nu-ku-lar and people were mocking him, but lately I've realized people just don't know how to spell the word.


  •  Wonder if Bush will call him a "red herring"... (0+ / 0-)

    ...too! Will the WH call J. Cofer Black, the director of the CIA's Counterterrorist Center, and Mitt Romney's advisor a red herring, too? We'll see if they have a "double standard" of credibility or not:
    Former antiterror adviser says Bush ignored 9/11 warnings
    White House disputes account
    Thursday, July 29, 2004 Posted: 10:31 PM EDT (0231 GMT)


    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The White House's former counterterrorism coordinator blasts President Bush in a television interview and a new book, saying the president ignored warnings about terrorist attacks before 9/11 and has done "a terrible job" battling terrorism since then.

    I wonder who that former top anti-terrorism adviser was that said Bush did "a terrible job"?

    Richard A. Clark said it:

    Clarke said he asked for a Cabinet-level meeting in January 2001, shortly after the president took office, to discuss the threat al Qaeda posed to the United States. "That urgent memo wasn't acted on," Clarke told CBS. Instead, he said, administration officials were focused on issues such as missile defense and Iraq.

    A White House spokesman dismissed Clarke's account as a politically motivated "red herring."

    Seems everyone that disagrees with or expects accountability from this POTUS is "politically motivated"! But the WH totally ignores the FACT the 9/11 Commission revealed that the WH knew of active al-Qaeda cells within the U.S. as early ar January 25, 2001, and furthermore failed to act on the intel! Doesn't sound like a red herring to me, just dereliction of duty! But will Mitt Romney's advisor, a repub, be called a "red herring"?

    I seriously doubt it.

    08.04.07 It took the Titanic longer to sink than for the 110th Congress to surrender to Bush.

    by ImpeachKingBushII on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 12:14:05 PM PDT

  •  Silent epidemic & "Signature" injury of Iraq (1+ / 0-)
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    on last nights Rescue Rangers.

    If you ain't laughin, you ain't livin..Carlos Mencia.

    by TKK on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 12:14:11 PM PDT

  •  Mushy (0+ / 0-)

    finally pulled the plug on the farce that Pakistan is anything but a dictatorship.
    No surprise there.

    The fool who thinks he is a fool is for that very reason a wise man; But the fool who thinks he is a wise man is rightly called a fool.

    by chanbo on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 12:19:15 PM PDT

  •  I Saw a Moment (5+ / 0-)

    That was so endearing today.

    I was at the grocery store, and I heard applause over at the produce section.

    Employees and customers were standing around because it was announced that it was the anniversary of this employee's 50th year working for our local grocery store.

    I looked at his eyes, knowing what I would see.  It was tears.  His new boss, very much his junior, who was accolading him in the nicest manner, asked him to speak.  There was a funny moment of "Well..." where everyone chuckled.  Other people were also in tears, too.  I wonder if we have not possibly even begun to have had such moments.

    When the gentleman spoke, he was amazingly gracious, even but speakly simply.  But, one of the things I heard him say was, "In working in this job for so many years, one of the most important things I learned was to be closer to humanity."

    To announce...that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.

    by potownman on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 12:24:27 PM PDT

    •  You just can't find that kind of loyalty anymore (1+ / 0-)
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      from employERs.  These days companies find some lame excuse to lay people off just before they reach some sort of milestone like that, or retirement.
       I hope after 50 years that employee gets one heck of a good retirement package.

      My Karma just ran over your Dogma

      by FoundingFatherDAR on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 03:12:48 PM PDT

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  •  I'm concerned that in December 2008 (0+ / 0-)

    Gen. Pervez Musharraf declared a state of emergency in Pakistan on Saturday, suspending the constitution, replacing the chief justice before a crucial Supreme Court ruling on his future as president, and cutting communications in the capital. Paramilitary troops and police swarmed the capital.

    a similar situation will happen in the United States with Musharraf replaced with W.

  •  A video to fire people up for impeachment (0+ / 0-)

    Thinking about my conservative dad and all the other Republicans I love, what has happened to our Constitution, and what they were fighting for, I came up with this Youtube ad on the meaning of patriotism.  Please pass it around (60 seconds):

  •  hilarious propaganda about progress in Iraq (0+ / 0-)

    a new report from the AP claiming that Iraqis are migrating back to Baghdad in large numbers, rather than fleeing the city. The claim, even if true, boils down to this: that about 30 people per day return to the capital city (population in the millions).

    Anyway, the "evidence" is an unsubstantiated claim made by the ministry in charge of tracking population displacement, a ministry run by a Maliki ally. Get a load of this:

    Sattar Nawrous, a spokesman for the Ministry of Displacement and Migration, said the al-Azawi family was among 3,100 that have returned to their homes in Baghdad in the past 90 days.

    "In the past three months, the ministry did not register any forced displacement in the whole of Iraq," said Nawrous, who is a Kurd.

    The claim could not be independently verified, but, if true, it would represent a dramatic end to the sectarian cleansing that has shredded the fabric of Baghdad's once mixed society.

    The head of the ministry is Abdul-Samad Rahman, a Shiite appointed to his job by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki...

    Yeah, we're supposed to believe that sectarian/ethnic cleansing was stopped in its tracks more than 3 months ago. chiz

  •  Man, that 1977 JCPenney catalog... (0+ / 0-)

    Made me shudder. Ick.

    Thank goodness fashion has progressed over the past 30 years.

    Oh and Rudy is still a lying, methodical dickbag.

  •  Bay Area Kossacks: Benefit today (0+ / 0-)

    for a guy without health insurance who needs medical care. Some great Frisco bands are turning out to help Johnny Genocide (I know, not a name I'd choose, either), of No Alternative, who is being treated for cancer. Lennon Studios, 271 Dore St. 3-10 PM. Hope to see you there. And so do the Mutants, the Avengers, and more.

    "Think of something to make the ridiculous look ridiculous." -- Molly Ivins

    by dumpster on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 02:13:16 PM PDT

  •  wrong quote re: Black (0+ / 0-)

    Crude though it may seem, I too want Bin Laden's head in a box on the President's desk.  Probably more than the President does.

    the more disturbing passages from that article are those regarding his position at the top of Blackwater and his role in encouraging Mitt to "double Guantanamo" (though expect yet another flip on this if he gets the nomination).

    "this machine kills fascists" - woody guthrie's guitar

    by clashfan on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 02:29:04 PM PDT

  •  read what many Pakistanis and others say.... (0+ / 0-)

    about emergency rule in pakistan.

    I've been reading this comments thread over at the BBC site. Fascinating.

    "What is clear is that most of the experimental evidence so far presented falls short of proof in almost all cases."

    by crick02478 on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 02:34:13 PM PDT

  •  One Rock Doesn't Hurt Anyone (1+ / 0-)
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    Until it starts a landslide.

    I had the good fortune of being a Daily Kos reader shortly after he started, when he had the time to respond to almost every email he received.  Back then, there were the beginnings of rumbling that a united blogger movement could have a serious effect on politics.  There were many scoffers:  who's going to listen to us since we don't have any degrees; there's only a few of us, and of course the ever-popular "one person can't change anything."  

    But Markos and Atrios and the other early bloggers took an action that made everyone sit up and take notice:  they got people to work together (remember the early Meet Ups?) and they were able to raise money which, sad to say, is what makes politicians sit up and take notice. It mushroomed from there.  

    If I said that Markos is God, or the Greatest Blogger Who Ever Lived, he'd come here and slap me silly.  But he, along with the handful of early bloggers who started with a readership of a few hundred, are now a Force To Be Reckoned With.  I have to wonder how many calls they get from campaign managers to endorse candidates, or at least to ease up on them?  How many offers of jobs with candidates, parties (except the GOP), NPCs, and what not do they get?  And as far as I know, they turn each one down.  (Okay, Atrios brought a lot of business to a certain bar in Philadelphia for "Drinking Liberally," but I don't think that quite counts, and I'm sure he doesn't get a cut of the take.)

    But despite Markos now becoming an Official Commentator (he's always been one, it's just that the Old School gave him no mind) his clout is the people he inspires to become involved.  Atrios does the same, as does Pastor Dan, General JC, Digby, et al.  And they are still human, still approachable (at least within the bounds of physical time), and still the people who were delighted when they got 100 hits a day.  

    Markos will be the first to say he didn't directly affect anything.  As he said on the 5th anniversary (or whichever it was), "all [he] did was start a blog."  If he hadn't, would the left have become more irrelevant than it was in 2002? One person, or a few people, have made a difference, even though it was unintended.

    What might you do today that will have unforseen major results months or years in the future?

  •  hey!!!! we are losing this thing!!! (1+ / 0-)
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    come on, people; lets vote!!!!

  •  Shout! Bush Out! (1+ / 0-)
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    Bush Out!!! Now!!!!


    by wildfancylady on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 04:25:18 PM PDT

  •  You can piss on Congress, but try a fed Judge (0+ / 0-)

    This is going to be sweet, wonder if "I dont recall" cuts any ice with a Judge.

    A federal judge yesterday issued a rare ruling that ordered Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and more than 10 other prominent current and former government officials to testify on behalf of two pro-Israel lobbyists accused of violating the Espionage Act at their upcoming criminal trial.

    The opinion by U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III in Alexandria directed that subpoenas be issued to officials who include Rice, national security adviser Stephen J. Hadley, former high-level Department of Defense officials Paul D. Wolfowitz and Douglas J. Feith, and Richard L. Armitage, the former deputy secretary of state.

    Day after day, alone on the Hill, the man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still.

    by Ferrofluid on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 04:54:48 PM PDT

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