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New Orleans Was Robbed

Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 08:41:06 AM PDT

New Orleans has again been dealt yet another unfair blow on top of her having been rejected by the Netroots Nation 2008 convention--a topic I'm still not finished with, on which I'm planning to diary more extensively early next week because this new rebuff has made me even angrier.

She was rejected yesterday as the site for one of the Presidential debates to be held next year. Read Yatpundit's post for the details.

In my view, the New Orleanians quoted in the story and op-ed piece are being much too charitable to the site selection comission, for reasons I'll soon be going into. I feel that in light of both this and the Netroots Nation rebuffs, it's time for New Orleanians and Nolaphiles to stop letting ourselves be walked all over and loudly make our voices heard.

I am saddened and very upset that the site selection committee says New Orleans isn't recovered enough to be a debate site and here's why: The fact that New Orleans has almost never come up in presidential debates and that the mainstream media have been kowtowing to BushCo by maintaining a news blackout on her. Had she and Katrina recovery been regular topics in these debates and been regularly receiving news coverage, I could have dealt with New Orleans' rejection. (Last night, by the way, was the 55th newscast Brian Williams anchored since he last aired a full report out of New Orleans.) But I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of debates I've seen in which she came up as a topic. Even then, she was usually the topic of a "Lightning Round" question to one or another candidate--not a major topic.

It would be interesting to find out what exactly went into the site selection process, because New Orleans had lobbied so hard to be the site of such an  event. Obviously BushCo is up to its old tricks--for all we know, BushCo had the Rethug members of the committee in its pocket and pressured them not to sign off on New Orleans as a debate site, then had them come up with a Big Lie to deceive people into thinking that New Orleans isn't really up to holding a presidential debate.

This is because BushCo will stop at nothing to punish Louisiana for having made BushCo look bad during Katrina by denying New Orleans the opportunity to host such a debate. And to make their Final Solution in Louisiana stick by putting a damper on anything that would show that New Orleans is open for business and would help her economically by injecting money into local businesses. And last but not least, look at one of the lucky states that has been selected to host a debate--Mississippi. Read Divide and Conquer: Bush's Gulf Strategy for more on how BushCo has consistently favored Mississippi, at the expense of Louisiana, which has always gotten the shaft. BushCo's fingerprints from the lump of coal they just handed Louisiana are all over this early Christmas gift to Haley Barbour.

But all is not lost. Perhaps a presidential debate, though not an "official" one, could take place in New Orleans, and here's how: New Orleans' officials who'd been working toward New Orleans as a debate site, NOLA Kossacks, and Nolaphiles, need to organize such a separate debate and find an ingenious way to persuade both the Republican and Democratic nominees to attend this debate that would be independent of the "official" debates. Such a debate could be organized in New Orleans and be on New Orleans' recovery and other Katrina-related issues.

It's time for New Orleanians and others who support that city's recovery to stand up, speak out, and make our voices heard--even if the only way we can do so, due to MSM censorship, is through blogging. But there is more that can be done.

Example: New Orleans activist groups could organize caravans of their members to Oxford, Mississippi and other debate sites when they're being held. These could consist of busloads of people who could demonstrate outside the debate site and also attend the debate. While there, they could loudly shout out questions on New Orleans and Katrina until the candidates answer these questions.

Reason being, as noted above, debate moderators will ignore these issues and the candidates probably won't bring them up themselves. I was sorely disappointed because in the latest debate Wolf Blitzed, et. al. asked all sorts of stupid questions except ones about Katrina and New Orleans. And none of the candidates--not even John Edwards--brought New Orleans up on their own volition. Maybe if New Orleanians in the audience shout out questions on these things, it will get the attention of the moderators and candidates.

Obviously, between this latest rebuff, and the one from Netroots Nation, sinister forces--people who just want New Orleans to go away and die-- are at work behind the scenes, working hard to deny New Orleans these valuable opportunities that would show that she's very much alive, attract more convention business her way, and boost the morale of her people. In the face of such determined, evil opposition, the time for New Orleanians and their supporters to be quiet and polite is over.

We--Nola Kossacks and Nolaphiles, can also play a part, because the MSM which is in BushCo's pocket will not do this. Because Louisiana and her beloved New Orleans have been the target of attack by a BushCo determined to throw all obstacles possible in her path to becoming whole, we need to fight back. We need to through our blogging loudly demand that the site selection committee reconsider its decision. Or, failing that, that an independent debate be held in New Orleans. We need to demand that those on the site selection committee who rejected her be exposed, called to account, and forced to resign. (I guess getting them to fess up to whatever inducements BushCo offered them to reject New Orleans would be too much to ask.) We need to spread the word that the site selection process was not fair--but a politically-influenced sham. And we need to spread the word that NEW ORLEANS WAS ROBBED!!!

Tags: Hurricane Katrina, New Orleans, Louisiana, Nola Kossacks, Nolaphiles, Presidential Debates (all tags) :: Previous Tag Versions

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  •  I read about this ... (1+ / 0-)

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    Louisiana 1976

    ... last night at Your Right Hand Thief and I still am so boiling mad.

    The Commission claimed NOLA was "not sufficiently prepared."  What a bunch of crap -- and an insult to New Orleans as well.

    I did a little research -- the commission is privately held and sponsored by corporations -- and it was originally established by both the Democrats and Republicans to run the debates.

    I have to wonder who it was who put the kibosh on this.

    I've also been trying to find contact information for the commission and have thus far been unsuccessful.  I think if we can find how to contact these folks it might be a good idea to let them know that many people are disgusted with their rationale as well as their choice to exclude New Orleans from the debates.

    •  Hmmmm. (1+ / 0-)

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      about the contact information for the commossion--could it be that they're deliberately keeping it undisclosed, because they're afraid of public comment?

      It would be great if we could find out how!

      Don't miss my blog! "We are all New Orleans now."--Barbara O'Brien Geauxbama!

      by Louisiana 1976 on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:01:28 AM PDT

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      •  Don't think it's deliberate. (1+ / 0-)

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        Louisiana 1976

        I do think they are so immersed in Beltway "conventional wisdom" and used to not being challenged, that they may in fact be vulnerable to publicity against them.

        I'll look into this and maybe diary it as well.

        •  Sounds like a..... (1+ / 0-)

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          good idea!

          Don't miss my blog! "We are all New Orleans now."--Barbara O'Brien Geauxbama!

          by Louisiana 1976 on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:43:55 AM PDT

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          •  Well ... (3+ / 0-)

            ... from what I've found out, the co-chairmen, Paul Kirk and Frank Fahrenkopf, are, respectively, former heads of the DNC and RNC, Kirk from 1985-89 and Fahrenkopf from 1983-89.

            They both can be reached by snailmail:

            Mr. Frank J. Fahrenkopf, Jr.
            Mr. Paul G. Kirk, Jr.
            Co-Chairmen, Commission on Presidential Debates
            1200 New Hampshire Avenue NW, Box 445
            Washington, D.C.  20036

            Over at World Class New Orleans, Mr. Clio writes to Kirk.

            The commission members are as follows:

            Co-Chairmen
            Frank J. Fahrenkopf, Jr.
            Paul G. Kirk, Jr.

            Honorary Co-Chairmen
            Gerald R. Ford (deceased)
            Jimmy Carter
            Ronald Reagan (deceased)
            William J. Clinton

            Board of Directors
            Howard Buffett
            John C. Danforth
            Antonia Hernandez
            Caroline Kennedy
            Michael D. McCurry
            Newton N. Minow
            Dorothy Ridings
            Alan K. Simpson
            H. Patrick Swygert

            Executive Director
            Janet H. Brown

            The only corporate sponsors I could find were for 2004 - couldn't find any for 2008:

            AARP
            American Airlines
            America's Charities
            Anheuser-Busch Companies
            The Howard G. Buffett Foundation
            Sheldon S. Cohen - Morgan, Lewis & Bockius, LLP
            Continental Airlines
            Discovery Channel
            EDS
            JetBlue Airways
            The Kovler Fund

            Seems to me no one wants to debate in NOLA, dem or repub -- and it seems the same old bullshit beltway thinking is involved in this.  It's shameful.  We should all write to these bozos and protest - they are dissing New Orleans and we shouldn't allow them to get away with it.

            •  Thanks for the... (1+ / 0-)

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              info and the link to World Class New Orleans. Mr. Clio wrote an excellent letter.

              Don't miss my blog! "We are all New Orleans now."--Barbara O'Brien Geauxbama!

              by Louisiana 1976 on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 11:30:28 AM PDT

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              •  I think we should all email Kirk. (1+ / 0-)

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                Louisiana 1976

                Here's the one I sent him:

                Dear Mr. Kirk:

                I was both disappointed with the decision of the Commission on Presidential Debates to forego having the debates in New Orleans and outraged by your comment that New Orleans was "not ready" to host the debates.

                You have added insult to injury with your insensitive words and poor judgment.

                The fact that the venue in Mississippi your Commission has chosen doesn't even have adequate hotels to house folks makes your comment even more absurd.

                I don't know what kind of politics were involved in making this decision.  Either you and the Commission are so out of touch with what is happening in the United States that you fail to understand the importance of holding a debate in New Orleans, to underscore the national disgrace that is our federal government's response to this man-made tragedy, or you are all insiders unwilling to face real and justified criticism of both parties over the wretched response to this tragedy.

                I am urging everyone I know to protest this bad decision and at the very least obtain a real explanation for why you refused to grant New Orleans the well deserved opportunity to host these debates.  Americans don't like being lied to, and your reasons were outright falsehoods.

                I hope you will respond with the real reasons for your denial.  I doubt my message is the only one you will receive about this.

                Sincerely,
                [npk]

                This is really outrageous, the more I think about it, the angrier I get.

                I really urge folks to let the Commission know what a lousy decision they made.

            •  Here's some really bad news.... (1+ / 0-)

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              I just attempted to e-mail Mr. Kirk from my regular computer which is set up so that I can e-mail from it (which as noted in another post I was unable to do from the library yesterday.) I composed a letter to him last night but this means now I'm unable to send it.

              See what happens when you try to link Kirk's page today from the link that's in World Class New Orleans. I just did and--unlike yesterday when I found his page complete with an e-mail address--I got a "Page Not Found" message.

              Looks like this individual, being a truly evil sell-out to BushCo, has managed to block his page so he won't be able to get any e-mails from people in New Orleans or those who support her.

              The sad thing is I didn't have the presence of mind to write down his e-mail address yesterday--did you happen to save it?

              Don't miss my blog! "We are all New Orleans now."--Barbara O'Brien Geauxbama!

              by Louisiana 1976 on Wed Nov 21, 2007 at 08:09:11 AM PDT

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    •  Same people who eliminated Woman Leaque of Voters (2+ / 0-)

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      Nightprowlkitty, Louisiana 1976

      Who conducted the presidential debates until I think Reagan.  Now the MSM runs them which is why the questions and methods are so bad.

  •  There's a good piece up (5+ / 0-)

    at HuffPo by Harry Shearer as well. This caught my attention:

    But not ready? The city has just hosted two back-to-back major conventions, it will host two major college football games within a week, including the BCS championship and, oh, by the way, apropos of controlled chaos, the city has easily and safely hosted two Mardi Gras events since Katrina.

    UNBELIEVABLE. Keep up the good work Lousiana 1976. You see the phrase "never forget" about 9/11 all the time. I think 8/29/05 would be a better use for that phrase.

  •  Call Landrieu and ask (1+ / 0-)

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    After all....she sold out on the Mukasey vote to the administration.  It would be interesting to call her office and find out what she did to lobby on behalf of the city.  

     

  •  Trying (2+ / 0-)

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    I still, for the life of me, understand the selection of Texas for the Netroots.

    Nobody in the room raised their hand and said.....aahh  George Bush has been using the culture of Texas to explain himself away for the last 7 years..
    He's used Texas in at least 50 speeches that I have seen, and he uses it non-stop in banter with the press.

    Why would I go there?  Makes no sense to me.

    -4.13 -5.90. There is no one here who thinks like me. So lower or raise your expectations accordingly.

    by Polticalrecluse on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:18:29 AM PDT

  •  I felt like ykos should have been held in NO (4+ / 0-)

    last year, and I feel that not choosing NO this year is a travesty.  Where else to better put out values to work?  Where else to better show our love for this country and our opposition to those who left New Orleans to die in the flood waters of Katrina?  I'm sick that NN08 is not going to be where we are actually needed.  I think this is another blown opportunity for the netroots.

    "The truth shall set you free - but first it'll piss you off." Gloria Steinem

    Iraq Moratorium

    by One Pissed Off Liberal on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:18:43 AM PDT

  •  Is it time YET to point fingers? (2+ / 0-)

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    The monopoly based football stadium was rebuilt in one year, with millions of our tax dollars.  That sounds "recovered" enough to televise a debate. Aren't facilities already there to televise football games?

    Hotels etc. only need house tv and campaign crews. Local citizens are supposed to be the "audience", so don't need "tourist" facilities anyway.

    So, what "recovery" are we waiting for?

    De fund + de bunk = de EXIT--->>>>>

    by Neon Mama on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 10:55:21 AM PDT

    •  they're not waiting for recovery (1+ / 0-)

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      Louisiana 1976

      please....

      As mentioned earlier - New Orleans is going to host the BCS championships in January and in the past ten months the Convention Center has hosted, among many, many other things:

      1.  National Association of College and University Business Officers
      1.  American Public Transportation Society meetings
      1.  Essence Music Festival
      1.  American Association of Law Librarians
      1.  American College of Surgeons (small group there - HA - thousands of attendees)
      1.  International Association of Chiefs of Police
      1.  American Academy of Opthamology
      1.  The National League of Cities (next week)

      It took me 3 minutes to find out this information -
      But no.....the city couldn't possibly accommodate something like a presidential debate...... of course, maybe this decision was made by another flyover......

      this administration and everyone around it is just beyond the pale.

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