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Don't Panic It's Hemp

Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 09:25:43 AM PDT

Widespread Hemp

On August 20th of this year I received at Vote Hemp the email below from high school student Brian Simpson, who had been banned from wearing his hemp t-shirt to school:

I am a senior at Oak Mountain High School in Shelby County, Alabama.  On August 16, 2007, I was forced to remove my shirt and to change into one provided to me because the shirt had the word "hemp" on it.  The principals claimed that because hemp is associated with marijuana and that school and county rules claim you cannot wear clothing that refers to illegal substances, that I could no longer wear the shirt.  I explained to them the difference between hemp and marijuana and explained that because hemp is legal in the United States that the rule did not apply.  They refused to acknowledge the facts that I presented to them and forced me to change shirts.  I am absolutely disgusted in the suppression of my freedom of speech and the suppression of the hemp movement in my school.  I am looking for legal assistance, but if you could even contact my school and let them know that they are WRONG, it would be greatly appreciated!

Brian Simpson

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What seems to be lost on the school system in many cases is that almost everything during a student's day can be a teaching moment. Brian Simpson's shirt incident is a perfect example.

All of life is that way. People in schools should strive to help students learn and learn from their students. Instead, more often than not the moment is wasted and they unthinkingly preserve the system. All bureaucracies tend to work like this, which is why one cannot farm hemp in this country.

Here is a copy of the November 15, 2007 letter to Brian from Randy Fuller, Superintendent of the Shelby County Schools:

Dear Brian:

Thank you for your letter of November 7, 2007.  I appreciate all of your research on the matter regarding the definition of hemp as it is used in our society.  It is evident that you spent a lot of time and effort in explaining your position on this issue.  As a result, I will send the information that you provided to our system dress code committee for consideration for the 2008-2009 school year.

Since the use of alcohol, marijuana, and other drugs is prevalant in today's society, your school officials have taken the position to prohibit any items that may remotely promote or symbolize their use.  While your explanation shows the different definitions of "hemp," your fellow students and the community at large perceive it to symbolize marijuana.  A similar comparison to this would be the controversial wearing of the Confederate Flag.  Even though some people view the flag as a symbol of heritage, many people believe it connotes oppression are highly offended by its presence.

I appreciate your detailed explanation in your letter.  However, I support the decision of your school administrators and will not overturn their decision.

Sincerely,

Randy Fuller, Superintendent
Shelby County Schools

Superintendent Fuller's letter just about leaves me speechless! To equate a wearing a shirt with the word hemp on it to wearing a Confederate Flag is absolutely beyond the pale. Just because some authorities in our society have tried to hijack the definition of the word hemp and have it refer only to the drug-varieties of Cannabis does not mean we need to accept it. We know better. Brian has written a story for his school newspaper and appears below in its entirety with Brian's permission:

Don't Panic It's Hemp

No "Hemp" at Oak Mountain?

    Well, that is what the administrative team at our school ruled a few months ago; a ruling that Superintendent Randy Fuller has recently stated to me that he supports.  It all started on August 16, 2007 when administrator Brad Hayn stopped me in the hallway concerning my shirt's message, "Widespread Hemp / Don't Panic, It's Hemp."  Mr. Hayn expressed to me that "Hemp" was only another name for a drug by the "street name" of marijuana.  Although I presented facts that proved otherwise, the administration decided to prohibit the shirt and has enforced the ruling since.  After writing a letter and a few meetings, I finally convinced the administrative team that hemp is not marijuana, but instead a distinctively different plant.  So wait, why is the shirt still banned?  Well, they are afraid that you, the students, might misinterpret the shirt as they once did.  They believe this misinterpretation will "generate negative feelings among the student body."  Does the word "Hemp" generate negative feelings to you?  Were you offended when you read the title of this article?  I hope this is not the case; I also hope that you do not hold the common misconception that hemp is marijuana.

    In case you are confused, allow me to briefly explain.  Hemp, commonly referred to in the business world as industrial hemp (to emphasize the non-drug use), is a variant of the species Cannabis sativa L., along with its genetic cousin marijuana.  Because they belong to the same species, some confuse them as one plant; although, one would never refer to a Chihuahua and a wolf as the same animal just because they are both belong to the species Canis lupus.  Another reason for the confusion is that hemp contains minute traces of Tetrahydrocannabinol, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana that induces the "high."  These traces THC in industrial hemp are in no way large enough to create even the slightest degree of any intoxicating effect.  Industrial hemp contains less than .3% THC, whereas marijuana contains anywhere from 5% to 30%.  Industrial hemp can be used for fuel, apparel, textiles, building materials, food, paper, and much more.  It requires no pesticides or herbicides, its fiber is recyclable, and its oil is biodegradable.  It is certainly relevant in today's "environmentally-friendly" marketplace.  And in the search for economically-viable renewable resources, industrial hemp is highly important.

    You might be asking, "Why not ask to wear a shirt that specifically refers to industrial hemp to minimize confusion?"  I already have and only to receive the same answer.  Even a message that specifically refers to the industrial uses of hemp, a message that could in no reasonable way be interpreted as an "illegal substance advertisement" is prohibited at our school.

    You might also be asking, "Does this mean I must stop wearing my hemp jewelry?"  No, you can actually continue to wear your hemp jewelry, purses, clothes, footwear, and socks.  You can also continue using your other hemp products such as your lip balm, lotion, and soap; as long as the products do not openly display the word "Hemp" as my shirt did.  Strange, huh?  I can go to lunch directly after I wash my hands with my Dr. Bronner's hemp soap in 100% hemp apparel and eat my hemp granola bar with my hemp napkin along side, yet I cannot wear a shirt with a message containing the word "Hemp."

    Being patriotic is not just flying the flag or reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, it is believing in the philosophies incorporated in the Constitution by our Founding Fathers, protecting our rights entitled to us by the Constitution, and in doing so, preserving our freedom that our veterans have fought so preciously for.  If you are an industrial hemp supporter or simply a freedom-loving American, please join me in my efforts to protect what is left of students' freedom of speech.  These shirts are my tools to advocate and educate on the environmental and economical benefits of industrial hemp.  The banning of my shirts violates my First Amendment rights along with my right as a student to non-disruptive, political speech that does not impinge upon the rights of others, affirmed in the Supreme Court case Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District.  If you are not offended by the word "Hemp" and words "Industrial Hemp" and are aware of the distinct difference between industrial hemp and marijuana, let your administrator know.  Most importantly, call, write, or email the Shelby County Board of Education.  With your help, we can simultaneously educate our community on the immense benefits of industrial hemp while fighting to reinstate the same rights that we have learned in school about in the Bill of Rights and major Supreme Court cases.

"Make the most of the Indian hemp seed, sow it everywhere."
George Washington

For more information on industrial hemp, please visit www.votehemp.com.

I leave you with this question: What message does it send to our children that we are so inflexible in the application of rules in our society?

Crossposted at The Hemp Report and at Booman Tribune.

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    •  From Brian Simpson: (1+ / 0-)

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      Brian sent me an email asking that I post his comment here. His post, unedited and in its entirety:

      I thank all of you for taking your time to read Tom's post.  This will probably be my only comment on the site, as I rarely use blogs, and most importantly because if I attempted to debate all of you, I would end up spending the rest of my life on here.  Unfortunately, some of you will find this act cowardly and I suppose righteously so.

      To all of you who left kind comments, I thank you for your support and the interesting links.

      For those of you who's comments were not-so-kind, I appreciate your input and wish enlightenment to you all.  As for the comments on "highschoolers,"  I am disappointed in the low expectations some you hold for our intelligence.  As for the claims that the only reason high school students would support hemp is because it is associated with marijuana, I can agree with you that this is unfortunately true in some cases, but based my high school experience, I can assure you this is not always true.

      The association with marijuana plays not part in my passion for industrial hemp.  To those of you who already spoke of my mother, she owns a recycling business and as a result I consider recycling a very important issue;  an issue that led to my interests in environmental issues.  I have been raised to recycle everything that is recyclable (I am sure some of you will criticize me for this also.)  Anyway, from about age 11 or 12, I began extending this philosophy to my clothing;  I began purchasing clothes from a company that used recycled fabrics.  I have since purchased clothes dyed with Alabama clay, dirt, and rock (from Earthcreations, a great local company.)  To continue the list, clothes made of: bamboo (yes, I do wear bamboo), organic cotton, and HEMP.  Clay is not associated with a drug, yet I wear shirts dyed with it.  Bamboo is not a drug, yet I wear shirts made of it.  I support all of these fibers and dyes because they in some way, no matter large or small, reduce the harm I cause to the environment (Go ahead, start your rant.)  I have been wearing clothing woven of hemp fiber probably since 5th grade, this shirt just happens to be the first one I've worn that refers to it in the message.  Even if hemp can be used for paper and save a forest, it is important.  Even if it can be used instead of cotton to reduce the pesticides in your local river, it is important.   Even if it can be used for biodegradable plastic, it is important.  And if it would again be used in diesel engines as Rudolph once did himself, it would be HIGHLY important.

      The fact that the shirt indirectly refers to Widespread Panic or that it contains a picture of hemp leaves is not as important as some of you think.  My school has banned any of my shirts that have a message containing the word "hemp."  Meaning I couldn't even wear a shirt that reads "I support industrial hemp, not marijuana, for environmental reasons."  They denied my request to wear a shirt that I have that reads "Grow a Field of Paper / Tree-Free Paper Brought to You By Industrial Hemp."

      And for the record USArmyParatrooper, I am 17, not 16 : ).  I disagree with some of your views, but I certainly thank you for your service to our country.

      "The greatest service which can be rendered any country is to add an useful plant to its culture" -- Thomas Jefferson

      by tommurphy on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 04:37:48 PM PDT

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  •  Hemp (8+ / 0-)

    the gateway material, next thing you know kids will be wearing pot, cocaine, E and gasp, heroin!

    Mr. Ellinorianne for California State Senate!

    by Ellinorianne on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 09:37:42 AM PDT

  •  This doesn't surprise me at all. It is so (9+ / 0-)

    frustrating because school administrators believe that it is better to manipulate our children rather than to be truthful with them.  There are many things that are vital to their growing up with a healthy understanding of how to make mature decisions about issues that can have profound consequences such as sexual behavior, experimentation with mood altering drugs or criminal behavior such as shop lifting that deserve honesty.  However School Administrators who should know better still think that trying to manipulate is more efficacious than being well-informed, straight forward, and honest.  It is no wonder that young people have so little respect for authority.  Thanks for the diary.  Recommended.

    The soul is not the ego in drag. Ken Wilber

    by macmcd on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 09:41:28 AM PDT

  •  The Letter from the School Board was reasonable (0+ / 0-)

    If Hemp wasn't associated with weed, high schoolers wouldn't give a damn about it. And as the letter states MOST people don't understand the difference. When they see "hemp" they think "marijuana".

    •  Don't educate (12+ / 0-)

      just ban?

      "The greatest service which can be rendered any country is to add an useful plant to its culture" -- Thomas Jefferson

      by tommurphy on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 09:50:20 AM PDT

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    •  This is short-sighted (4+ / 0-)

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      I thing high schoolers are much more sophisticated than you imply here.  Just because hemp is on a t-shirt doesn't mean they will assume pot is acceptable by the school administration.  I would venture to say that most high school kids are aware that hemp is used for clothing (some probably wear or have worn hemp clothes), and is a food source. I think the letter is flat out wrong:  most people, including kids, DO understand the difference.  A t-shirt such as the one in this diary would help educate those who are unclear.  To compare the t-shirt to a Confederate flag and ban it altogether is ignorant. I would compare this attitude to antiquated notions about sex education that education will only encourage teens to have sex.

      "With their votes, the American people asked for change. They cast their ballots in favor of a New Direction." Nancy Pelosi

      by Residentcynic on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 10:20:08 AM PDT

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      •  But it's eminently reasonable (1+ / 0-)

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        to adjudge that the shirt either a) references pot; or b) would be interpreted as such by other students.  Both of these are legal reasons for prohibition.

        •  Not "eminently reasonable" at all (6+ / 0-)

          The wording on the t-shirt says "hemp", not "pot" or another derivative of it.  It also doesn't show a cannibus (sp) plant leaf, which is the symbol of marijuana.  In fact, there is nothing to suggest that marijuana is on the t-shirt at all.  The distinction between hemp and pot is what needs to be out in the open. That interpretation is what is at issue here is troubling to say the least. This smacks of mind control IMHO.

          "With their votes, the American people asked for change. They cast their ballots in favor of a New Direction." Nancy Pelosi

          by Residentcynic on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 10:34:56 AM PDT

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        •  No, neither one is, unless you (1+ / 0-)

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          live in a police state where the government tries to get inside your head.

          The whole basis of Constitutional law in this country is founded upon not getting into people's heads.

          This creeping totalitarianism and Big Brother bullshit has totally creeped me out.

          McCain just flushed his own campaign by his appearance at the FBF on Aug 16th, 2008.

          by shpilk on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 11:46:31 AM PDT

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      •  By YOUR logic (0+ / 0-)

        If you're consistent, I'm assuming you have no problem with schools allowing the Confederate Flag? After all the flag Represented the State's right to succeed from the Union. Just because racism was prevalent at the same does not mean the Confederate Flag (represents) racism. Slavery was only one of many issues the southern states had for their succession.

        However, it's perfectly reasonable that enough people make that connection, thus, many schools ban it. And I have no problem with that.

        People see "hemp" and the first thing that pops in their mind is marijuana.

        Consider this.... if it was NOT for the association with weed, would anybody care? Would we even be talking about this? Would you?

        •  Isn't that reason enough (5+ / 0-)

          to spread the word that there IS a distinction?

          Hemp could be a very valuable crop for us. But, too many hysterical "drug warriors" make this ignorant connection.

          The only way to overcome ignorance is education.

          Do unto wingnuts before they do unto you

          by Executive Odor on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 10:57:50 AM PDT

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        •  No (2+ / 0-)

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          (Read my comment below).  The confederate flag comparison doesn't wash. This is similar to not allowing sex education in high schools because it would "entice teens into having sex."  A t-shirt saying "hemp" will certainly not suggest that it's okay to smoke pot--the idea that it does seems ridiculously simplistic to me. If the kid had a marijuana leaf with the word "Ganja!" on it, now that would be another thing altogether IMO.

          "With their votes, the American people asked for change. They cast their ballots in favor of a New Direction." Nancy Pelosi

          by Residentcynic on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 11:00:41 AM PDT

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          •  In a way it is... (0+ / 0-)

            This is similar to not allowing sex education in high schools because it would "entice teens into having sex."

            I think it's UN-reasonable not to have sex education, or to exclude the use of condoms in that teaching. But it IS reasonable for the school to disallow a shirt with sexual references... like the playboy bunny (which is NOT pornographic).

            •  Okay (2+ / 0-)

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              So what is your aversion to hemp and the way it was presented on the t-shirt?  How does it somehow approve of pot?  Do you know the intent of the student who wore the t-shirt? You suggest it was worn because of its connection to pot and therefore probably was not worn to promote hemp per se. We don't know that.  The kid's mom may make hemp hand cream like one of the commenters below, and may be highly educated on the subject.  Or the kid may have worn the t-shirt to be rebellious.  I don't think it's up to the school to determine that the mention of a legal plant (hemp) should be banned because of it's relation to an illegal substance, because it gets into a murky thought-control First Amendment issue.  

              I'm having fun bantering this, thanks for your comments.

              "With their votes, the American people asked for change. They cast their ballots in favor of a New Direction." Nancy Pelosi

              by Residentcynic on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 11:16:48 AM PDT

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              •  If (0+ / 0-)

                If the school allowed it, would it still be rebellious?

                Pro-Hemp + Cannabis leaf + Reference to NORML-supporting jam band = Marijuana

                Rebel all you want... just don't think that the rebellion is going to be mainstreamed.

                Wouldn't that take all the fun out of it?

                •  My point is (1+ / 0-)

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                  the kid may have just worn the t-shirt to educate. We don't know the intent. But the school wants to eradicate anything that would be perceived as a thumb's up for drug use--hemp is not a drug, and is a legal plant.  This is the distinction, so to my mind is a First Amendment issue. The state (school) should not be allowed to mold perceptions.

                  "With their votes, the American people asked for change. They cast their ballots in favor of a New Direction." Nancy Pelosi

                  by Residentcynic on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 11:27:28 AM PDT

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              •  Knowing a logical deduction (0+ / 0-)

                We don't know that.

                That tends to be the trump card because there are few things in life that you can KNOW with certainty. Knowing is suggesting an absolute.

                I made the point that, if there was no weed connection, hemp shirts wouldn't be cool and we wouldn't be having that conversation. Some of you who (disagree) with me on this issue do agree with me on that point. So it's safe to say the overwhelming majority of those wearing "hemp shirts" aren't wearing them because their mother sells lotion.

        •  No problem w schools "allowing' Confed flag (0+ / 0-)

          so long as they don't censor other students criticising it.

          This is a test of the Emergency Free Speech System.
          This is only a test.
          If this had been an actual emergency, I'd already be locked up.

          by ben masel on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 12:20:32 PM PDT

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        •  Cannabis prohibition "represents" racism. (1+ / 0-)

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          Look at how it was first sold.

          This is a test of the Emergency Free Speech System.
          This is only a test.
          If this had been an actual emergency, I'd already be locked up.

          by ben masel on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 12:21:26 PM PDT

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          •  Could you please explain that one? (0+ / 0-)

            And since I know how overly defensive you are...

            I really don't know what you're talking about.

            •  Read this on Harry J. Anslinger for context: (0+ / 0-)

              "The greatest service which can be rendered any country is to add an useful plant to its culture" -- Thomas Jefferson

              by tommurphy on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 01:34:47 PM PDT

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            •  Example (3+ / 0-)

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              Anslinger read into U.S. Congressional testimony (without objection) stories about "coloreds" with big lips, luring white women with jazz music and marijuana. He read an account of two black students at the University of Minnesota doing this to a white coed "with the result of pregnancy." The congressmen of 1937 gasped at this and at the fact that this drug seemingly caused white women to touch or even look at a "Negro."

              Even the term "marihuana" a localized Sonoran slang, was introduced to American English by prohibitionists to evoke fear of the hated foreigner. Not in the 1931 Websters, dhows up in the 1936. (I haven't run across the intervening years' editions to check.)

              This is a test of the Emergency Free Speech System.
              This is only a test.
              If this had been an actual emergency, I'd already be locked up.

              by ben masel on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 02:09:12 PM PDT

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              •  Marihuana was not in a Government drug farming (0+ / 0-)

                manual in the '20s and '30s. There was a listing for drug Cannabis that was in the April 1927 printing of the USDA Farmers' Bulletin No. 663, "Drug Plants Under Cultivation."

                The Marihuana Tax Act had not been passed yet and the drug was not yet called "marihuana" or "marijuana." It is referred to as "cannabis" as they still do in the UK. Later printings of Farmers' Bulletin No. 663 did not have the listing for Cannabis, though earlier ones did.

                "The greatest service which can be rendered any country is to add an useful plant to its culture" -- Thomas Jefferson

                by tommurphy on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 02:42:27 PM PDT

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    •  Yes, it's better to reinforce hysteria and (1+ / 0-)

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      ignorance; that makes a lot of sense.

      It explains why our schools are failing so dramatically, and are producing little automatons that perform to tests but yet cannot think for themselves.

      McCain just flushed his own campaign by his appearance at the FBF on Aug 16th, 2008.

      by shpilk on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 11:41:21 AM PDT

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      •  Hey (1+ / 0-)

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        Do you have kids in school?

        I do... and they're both rebellious little punks... who listen to Woody Guthrie and Against Me! and read Che and Edward Abbey.

        And I don't let them wear swastikas or cannabis leaves either.

        You have to let rebellion mean SOMETHING instead of making everything ok with us old folks.

        •  Exactly (0+ / 0-)

          Obviously prohibiting  them from wearing the word 'hemp', or smoking, or whatever you prohibit them from doing just makes them want to do it more. An important lesson from this debacle is that by prohibiting something, it makes it desirable to 'rebels'. In fact, Foucault posits (borrowing from Nietzsche) that the prohibition of some activity makes it desirable because it transforms that activity into a mode of usurping power from authority. Wearing a plain, itchy shirt is only appealing when it is a gesture of defiance and power.

          An important lesson for the student is that reason, education and intelligent argument are basically useless against petty tyrants who need to exercise arbitrary authority in order to prove they can, and to intimidate those below them. The students will be come into increasing contact with arbitrary authoritarians who just need to rub their noses in it, and the sooner they acquiesce and move on to subversion in place of open defiance the sooner they can get on with their lives and enjoy their hemp.

          p.s. I like the supe's spelling choices. When I was in school, the word was prevalent.

        •  I have two kids and they are allowed to do what (0+ / 0-)

          they want, as long as it hurts no one else or themselves. They are allowed to make their own choices.

          I've never had to deal with swastikas or other symbols of hate. Symbols of cannabis have nothing to do with hate, symbols of cannabis has to do with the rejection of the bogus laws introduced out of fear and hysteria.

          McCain just flushed his own campaign by his appearance at the FBF on Aug 16th, 2008.

          by shpilk on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 06:54:38 PM PDT

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        •  when I was in highschool in the 60's we wore (0+ / 0-)

          black armbands to protest the war in Nam, were threatened with expulsion, encouraged by some teachers, and excoriated by others.

          Back then, kids could think for themselves.

          Now, it looks like the plan is to 'teach to the test' - paramount in the lesson plan .. that they become 'consumers' who watch TeeVee and 'good soldiers' who follow orders.

          God forbid we'd have a round peg, it wouldn't fit into those squares.

          McCain just flushed his own campaign by his appearance at the FBF on Aug 16th, 2008.

          by shpilk on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 07:16:43 PM PDT

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      •  No one is being hysterical (1+ / 0-)

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        Except perhaps you right now. Just because I think the school made a REASONABLE decision does not mean I think kids wearing that school is going to cause the apocalypse.

        It explains why our schools are failing so dramatically, and are producing little automatons that perform to tests but yet cannot think for themselves.

        You really think THAT is the reason? Because they banned hemp shirts? Wow. I was under the impression that our problem with education was a very complicated, diverse and dynamic one. Silly me.

        •  Schools are most certainly being hysterical (1+ / 0-)

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          about the issue of drugs, especially pot.

          Kids are not stupid, and know that pot is not dangerous. When I was growing up, in the late 60's I knew all the facts, because I bothered to read about it. But it wasn't offered in school, for the most part.

          The real issue to be concerned about isn't a damn T-Shirt, it's about telling kids the truth - that pot is overall much less dangerous than alcohol, and that other drugs like speed, coke, LSD and heroin are much more dangerous.

          The ignorance you are condoning is resulting in children dismissing all of the information out of hand, because of the outright lies told about pot.

          Some of these kids end up dead or addicted, thanks to mindless claptrap like what this school did.

          The real reasonable solution about drug education is to have honest, real drug education, and stop the asinine hysteria about T-Shirts.

          McCain just flushed his own campaign by his appearance at the FBF on Aug 16th, 2008.

          by shpilk on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 07:12:21 PM PDT

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          •  Seriously dude (0+ / 0-)

            Take a valium.

            The school has a policy against drug related shirts. They forbid him to wear a hemp shirt with cannabis leaves due to its association with association with marijuana. Others have been able to debate this issue in a calm and rational manner. For some reason, with you, it appears deeply personal.

            Also, marijuana IS harmful, albeit to a much lesser extend than other drugs, including alcohol.

            On a side note I am FOR legalizing marijuana. But certainly not for minors.

  •  I use hemp (10+ / 0-)

    to make plaster molds for sculptures.  It strengthens the molds without adding more weight.  A very old use.
    Burlap is common to use as well, but I prefer to use hemp.
    Trouble is, the hemp is really expensive because the stuff I get is shipped from China because our country is crazy.  The paper companies help play up the hemp/marijuana angle to prevent the mass growing of hemp, which lasts longer than paper, grows quickly, and doesn't involve the harvesting of trees.

    /FTR, I do not and have never smoked anything, including pot.

    First Gore, then Edwards, now Obama. But that's it!!!

    by EvilPaula on Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 09:49:23 AM PDT

  •  I'm all about suppressing that kid's speech. (0+ / 0-)

    He sounds annoying.

  •  I'm curious (1+ / 0-)

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    I agree with the person above... if hemp wasn't associated with marijuana culture, students wouldn't give a damn about it. You don't see kids wearing t-shirts extolling the virtues of bamboo flooring either, even though it is ecologically sound.

    The mashing together of hemp, marijuana reform laws and the stoner ethos (my term) bands like DMB, widespread panic (yes, I got the reference to the NORML-sponsoring band on the t-shirt), etc... are not helping the issue.

    On the scale of things I'd march in the streets for, hemp/pot reform is pretty low on my list.