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Media coverage to the contrary I never bought for even ten seconds that Hillary Clinton is going to be the next President. She's not even the next Democratic contender. Too far Right of the Zeitgeist is my sense of it. People want out of Iraq and they don't want to go to Iran and Hills bolloxed it up badly when she voted to name the Iranian Whoozitswhatzits as a terrorist organization, knowingly opening the door for Retarded George to have one more vicious, failing stab at a Middle East Apocalypse during his mad reign. It's her biggest mistake yet. She can't blow it off, she just voted for it. Edwards called it 'a neocon dream' and scored huge points for that one sentence and rightfully so.

Hills is the Republican-lite candidate, has her eyes on gaining the middle ground in the general election when she hasn’t won the first battle amongst her fellow Democrats. Edwards can go far by continuing to demonstrate how deeply cozy Hills is with the Big Business establishment and the status quo and should beat her like a drum daily for her vote on the Iran deal, all of which will benefit Barrack Obama more than anybody else.

As for the other media generated, Big Business champion/frontrunner, Guiliani toes the Bush-line without reservation and, in a sane world, should be utterly doomed for that and that alone. What it actually means is that Rudy 'Always 911' Guliani enjoys full neoconservative support, materials, funding, department of dirty tricks, timely governmental threat alerts, prob'ly Rove and the gargantuan weight of the Far Right, Fight-to-the-Death Cult. Having said all that, I just don’t believe anybody can win the Republican nomination if he’s been photographed wearing a dress on at least seven different occasions, which Gules most certainly has.

Vegas odds have it an even bet that should this man ever get elected he’ll get caught smooching an expensive portrait of John F. Kennedy while dressed up like Marilyn Monroe and singing "I Feel Pretty" inside of three weeks in the White House.

Originally posted to iSenseChange on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 12:12 PM PST.

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With the least electable gang of miscreants and freaks in American political history, who'll Republicans elect as their candidate?

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  •  Hills and Gules? (3+ / 0-)

    Are you channeling Maureen Dowd?

  •  Can we please stop the bashing of "Gules" (3+ / 0-)

    Based on his few drag pictures?  Seriously, there is a lot about him that deserves ridicule, but this is low enough to be a right wing smear.

    Smear on principle, please.  

    •  I think those photos are awesome (2+ / 0-)
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      VickiStein, masslib

      Whoever outfitted him and did his makeup did a great job.

      Not that I like him, ugh.  But the photos are great.


      There's no swimming in the heavy water / No singing in the acid rain...

      by Page van der Linden on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 12:28:34 PM PST

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    •  Gules in a Dress: No Smear (2+ / 0-)
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      deaniac83, Right Wing Zombie

      I don't think it's a smear. A single photo of Obama or god forbid Edwards in a dress would be enough to sink either man forever. CNN would play it on a loop for three days (ala the 'Dean scream')and that would be that. Gules' pics haven't come up as a factor in the election yet but you don't think they will? If they're a factor in the election then they are not a smear is the way I see it but I've been wrong before.

      •  Yeah, you'd never use it as a smear (2+ / 0-)

        Vegas odds have it an even bet that should this man ever get elected he’ll get caught smooching an expensive portrait of John F. Kennedy while dressed up like Marilyn Monroe and singing "I Feel Pretty" inside of three weeks in the White House.

        Of course not...

        •  Dress Sensitivity (0+ / 0-)

          Didn't realize how sensitive everybody was about dress stuff. Yeesh, I apologize. I still think it's gonna be a big deal and that somebody on the Rpub side will pull it out and make some noise about it in the coming months. I say again: Dean's scream alone was enough to sink him. What about that footage of Gules giggling like a schoolgirl and getting pawed up by Donald Trump? Is this a smear or is it comparable?

          The interesting thing to me is that many people in the Media, in politics and even here on the web are willing to give this particular candidate a free pass on this when Edwards still gets heat for the cost of his haircut. Am I crazy here? The hell is going on?!?

          Fair enough. Maybe I went over the top with the whole 'dressed up like Marilyn-I Feel Pretty thing.' What do you want, your money back?

      •  Yeah, and if it was even implied (4+ / 0-)

        that Obama or Edwards had been in a dress before, we would call it a smear.

        Get off the dress thing.  The man is a monster--I'm much less concerned about the dress than the utter lack of decency he possesses.  

    •  it's not the pictures (0+ / 0-)

      it's the hypocrisy that he is running for the nomination of a party that prides itself on hatred of gays, crossdressers and really any form of diversity.

      "The Power to change this party, and the power to change this country is in your hands, not mine." - Gov. Howard Dean, MD

      by deaniac83 on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 12:41:53 PM PST

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  •  What a thought provoking diary. (6+ / 0-)

    except for the thought part.

    If not Hills and Gules, then perhaps Edsy and Mittsy, or maybe Barrakoodah and McCaniac, or why not Bills and Hucks...gosh, this is fun AND informative!

    --------
    Why can't we all get along? Because some of us are idiots (nudge, nudge).

    by PBJ Diddy on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 12:25:28 PM PST

  •  My opinions: (0+ / 0-)

    Rudy's a lock on R nomination
    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    HRC can't even fake the prerequisites of for the job of president.
    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    Read Obama's 2002 speech against invading Iraq. http://usliberals.about.com/od/extraordinaryspeeches/a/Obama2002War.htm

    by Inland on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 12:26:14 PM PST

  •  Hills, Jules et al (0+ / 0-)

    No, just lazy. Whenever possible try to reduce candidate's name as close as you can to one syllable. Besides, if I mention Giuliani four times in the same paragraph I can spell his name worng four different times. As for Hills, well, I'm used to referring to Wild Bill as 'Clinton' and don't know the lady well enough to call her Hillary.

    As for MoDo, I read 'Bushworld' entirely from an exercise bike and was seldom unhappy with my choice but haven't come across anything current from her.

  •  Wow, talk about a lack of (4+ / 0-)

    substance. All of this is based on your preception of the moment.

    That has its place, but don't you think we have more than enough to go around right now?

    You may be right that Mr. Gulliani will not be the Republican nominee, but for the same reason you are likely wrong about Sen. Clinton.

    Mr. Gulliani has a falling trend line in the polls from all of the early primary states. This is very bad news for him, as it shows regardless of any single poll that he is not gathering the support of Republican primary voters.

    Sen. Clinton, on the other hand, has raising trend lines(with the expection of Iowa). In fact her trend line is generally 12 points above her nearest competitor.

    So, while your preception might be based on your experince, the data shows that you are at least 50% inaccurate.

    If you live in fear, then the worst that can happen to you has already happened. Will You live in fear?

    by Something the Dog Said on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 12:27:54 PM PST

  •  So, to summarize: (4+ / 0-)

    Hillary won't get the nomination because you don't like her.  

    Huh.

    You campaign with the media you have, not the one you wish you had. I wish my two favorite candidates would figure that out.

    by cardinal on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 12:32:30 PM PST

  •  meh... (1+ / 0-)
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    Something the Dog Said

    moving on...

    Novel? What novel? Oh...that novel...

    by kredwyn on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 12:40:32 PM PST

  •  I thought Rudy was fetching as Marilyn (0+ / 0-)

    but that's just me.

    I'll get you, my pretty.....and your little dog too.

    by chicago minx on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 12:56:56 PM PST

  •  Pity the bookmakers don't agree with you and (1+ / 0-)
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    Jim J

    they are not just sounding off an opinion which seems to bear no resemblance to the ascertainable facts. They have to put their money where their mouth is. I suspect if that was the rule here we'd have a lot less fatuous diaries like this one. Just for the record Intrade the last time I looked had her at 71.00 for the nomination. Bookies in the UK and Australia won't even give you evens on her for the presidency. Obama 6 to 1. You may never have bought it but apparently a lot of people have.      

    •  the Iran Vote/Albatross (0+ / 0-)

      Well, predictions are what they are. We'll see and time will tell, etc. Will have to start betting on these sites if they're all saying she's gonna take it.

      Interesting thing to me? Alot of people giving me grief about Gules and the dress and alot of people talking about how Hills is gonna take this thing and alot of people talking about the substance (or lack thereof, to be precise) in this lil' blog o mine but not one single person has taken on or defended Hillary's vote on the Iran deal, which was, looking back on it, the substance of my case against Hillary.

      Any takers?

      •  Apart from pol junkies noone knows about Iran vot (3+ / 0-)

        vote. On of the most frequent misapprehensions here is that the average American either knows or cares about the Iran vote. In fact a majority would probably agree with her and they are certainly not going to vote against her because of this one rather obscure vote. You may think it important, the thousand or so regulars here may think it important, the million or so who watch Tweety may think it important, the rest of country doesn't give a rat's ass about it.  

      •  Can't defend it but still support her. (2+ / 0-)
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        Jim J, renogal

        but not one single person has taken on or defended Hillary's vote on the Iran deal, which was, looking back on it, the substance of my case against Hillary.

        I believe she is the best of a good field of candidates and while I am as anti-war as anyone else here, it is not the only issue I care about.

        If she gets elected, she will be in a good position to fix a lot of harm and trust me, if she takes us to war with Iran I will be the first to apologize to everyone who warned me.
        I will start taking names just in case.

        1.iSenseChange

    •  Bookies in London had (0+ / 0-)

      Kerry winning against Bush...

      I have only one eye, I have a right to be blind sometimes... I really do not see the signal! -Horatio Nelson

      by Salo on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 01:38:39 PM PST

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      •  Not true. (0+ / 0-)

        Their odds were marginally shorter on Bush than Kerry for most of the contest, towards the end they were offering evens on both to them.

        •  I was in London at the time. (0+ / 0-)

          I lost my bet on Kerry.

          Not true. fer fecks sake.

          I have only one eye, I have a right to be blind sometimes... I really do not see the signal! -Horatio Nelson

          by Salo on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 01:49:01 PM PST

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          •  On Betting and Politics (0+ / 0-)

            What were the odds on Dean at one point, in 2004? Anybody lose money on that? Bookies don't have anything close to a lock on these things. Nobody does. Too dynamic.

            And, fatuous diary or no, I'm all for putting my money where my mouth is, OttoVV. You? A friendly fifty dollars says Hillary does not win the nomination. Interested?

            -iSC

            Fatuous. Hmmm. Haven't heard the word in years. Nice one. Any blogs of your own you'd recommend to me so I can see how real, cutting-edge political writers do it? Like I say, I'm new here and could obviously use the insight. Thanks, I'll be right here.

            "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy." Rowdy Roddy Piper

            by iSenseChange on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 02:04:50 PM PST

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            •  ISENSE make it a hundred. (1+ / 0-)
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              tucsonlynn

              Dean was never leading by 15 to 35 points in every primary other than IA. She is virtually unstoppable for the nomination but if you are so confident who am I to stop you having little bet.

              •  I Love It (0+ / 0-)

                You're on, OVV. I don't mind taking your money. Do we do a PayPal thing or what?

                "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy." Rowdy Roddy Piper

                by iSenseChange on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 02:15:55 PM PST

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                •  Not sure how we do it but if you can suggest mech (0+ / 0-)

                  mechanism I'm quite happy to go along.

                  •  Cool (0+ / 0-)

                    Anywho, the only online monetary management system I've been involved with was PayPal but we might be able to use something else. Will take all suggestions in this regard.

                    Good on you, OVV. might as well make this thing interesting.

                    "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy." Rowdy Roddy Piper

                    by iSenseChange on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 02:23:57 PM PST

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                    •  I've no idea how to do it (0+ / 0-)

                      Quite happy to accept any suggestions. It sounds as if you haven't any. In which case we'll have to put it down to Braggodocio on both our parts. She really is virtually unstoppable though given calendar and the size of her leads in all other states. IA simply is not as important as it would be if there were only a few points between them. I also think she will actually pull it out in IA despite Oprah but unlike Obama she doesn't have to. Susan Estrich had a long piece on Faux news of all places about two weeks ago about the woman running Hillary's campaign in the state. Have you any idea of how the caucus system works. From what I've read it sounds like a game of monopoly.    

                      •  Like I say, I've used PayPal (0+ / 0-)

                        No, I'd definitely take the bet, if your interested and understand if you're not. I don't think it's rocket science to exchange bet winnings over the internet.

                        My understanding (and its limited, only started vaguely paying attention to primaries in 2004) is that each party only has so many delegates and after a certain point in these things it becomes mathematically impossible for candidates low on the totem pole to win the nomination.

                        "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy." Rowdy Roddy Piper

                        by iSenseChange on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 02:43:11 PM PST

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            •  Lots of money, (not betting, but..) (0+ / 0-)

              and my heart and soul since then....

              What were the odds on Dean at one point, in 2004? Anybody lose money on that?

          •  And so was I. (0+ / 0-)

            In truth they probably wavered up and down a bit during the course of the election which did after all last for a year. About ten days before the election I was in London and colleague of mine who used to be a Bush fan, but has now come to his senses, put some money on Dubya and he got evens. Doesn't alter my basic contention. Talk is cheap, the bookies are using real money. Btw Nelson used to be childhood hero.    

  •  Another day, another repetition of (0+ / 0-)

    the tired mantra "Republican lite" directed toward one of the most loyally liberal U.S. senators.

    As for your poll: In what universe is Ron Paul to "the left of most Democrats?" Do you even know who Ron Paul is?

    •  On Foreign Policy Alone (0+ / 0-)

      Yeah, you may have a point of the Paul thing. I deserve whatever slagging I get on this. Apologies all around.

      I will give him credit for voting against the Iraq War and the Patriot Act and the Iran thinger..

      "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy." Rowdy Roddy Piper

      by iSenseChange on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 02:38:00 PM PST

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  •  w/out hillary there is no rudy candidacy (0+ / 0-)

    he is the GOP reaction to her.  Remove her, the other side of the equation collapses.  She needs him too, but not as much.

    History is a comedy to those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel. --Henry Walpole

    by Zacapoet on Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 02:19:10 PM PST

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