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Can any kingdom so out of touch with reality and in such utter dissolution as the US ever be in accordance with any abstract principle, even Chaos Theory?

Have you considered early Chinese wisdom?

Chapter 3

  1. Not to value and employ men of superior ability is the way to keep the people from rivalry among themselves; not to prize articles which are difficult to procure is the way to keep them from becoming thieves; not to show them what is likely to excite their desires is the way to keep their minds from disorder.
  1. Therefore the sage, in the exercise of his government, empties their minds, fills their bellies, weakens their wills, and strengthens their bones.
  1. He constantly (tries to) keep them without knowledge and without desire, and where there are those who have knowledge, to keep them from presuming to act (on it). When there is this abstinence from action, good order is universal.

Consider the current regime. They assiduously avoid hiring the competent, the knowledgeable, the adept, in favor of the ignorant, the slavish, the mediocre, the fool. They are themselves hired by the same sort, for their constituency comprises a minor key of venality and a mass of utter stupidity which accepts holy hominies for worldly goods and in place of advancement they are assured their enemies Left Behind shall suffer horribly once the chosen are whisked away to Never Neverland.

This is an administration in total accord with The Tao-te Ching. So, was Lao Tsu the first Republican?

Originally posted to Timus on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 03:33 PM PST.

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Comment Preferences

  •  I think you have sort of... (1+ / 0-)
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    Pluto

    ...grazed this idea of yours, rather than hitting it between the eyes.  You might want to flesh out your arguments a little more and re-publish.  But it's your call.

    Interesting.

    "Resist all the urges that make you wanna go out and kill."

    by The Termite on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 03:46:56 PM PST

  •  I agree with TT (1+ / 0-)
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    The Termite

    but in regards to your closing question: Paleocon?

    "I don't mind being called a pinko, faggot or coward. It says alot about whoever's doing the calling"- the Badger

    by Independant Man on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 04:02:57 PM PST

  •  Why do you have a "Hindu" tag among your tags? (2+ / 0-)
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    The Termite, slksfca

    The Tao Te Ching has nothing to do with Hinduism or India. Interesting idea you've broached, but it needs some flesh on its bones.


    -7.25/-6.41 If you don't like what you hear on the news, go out and make some of your own. -Scoop Nisker

    by sravaka on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 04:03:12 PM PST

  •  Zen Flesh, Dem Dry Bones (0+ / 0-)

    When I have some flesh on the bones, it may relate to "Cowabonga, Buffalo Bob!" which represents both the expression of Claribell in the first Howdy Doody regime and the holy cattle of India.

    I thought I would nail it down further if there were a minimum of ten comments. If not, why bother? If bother, why not if?

    ubi dubium iba libertad "certainty is sickness"

    by Timus on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 04:22:24 PM PST

  •  No. Confucius Was the First Republican (1+ / 0-)
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    The Termite

    Lao Tzu was a RINO.

    __________________
    Fascism ought to more properly be called Corporatism since it is the merger of state and corporate power. - Mussolini

    by Pluto on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 05:29:52 PM PST

  •  Don't write about... (0+ / 0-)

    ...that which you clearly do not understand.

  •  Authoritarianism was the norm (0+ / 0-)

    back in the third century BCE, and so there was a lot of "how to" written about maintaining power -- though Laozi was nowhere as interested in the topic as Han Feizi and the "Legalists." I think you're on to something, but at the same time, "Republican" doesn't quite fit.

    Although authoritarianism was the norm in Warring States China, different thinkers tried to come up with ways to restrict the arbitrary exercise of power. The Confucians were interested in teaching the rulers compassion as a way of tempering their exercise of power, while the Laozi was much more of a variety of Libertarian. So he definitely was not an "invade Iraq" Republican, if he was one.

    He is, if anything, a laissez-faire sort, as evidenced by this quotation from Ronald Reagan's Seventh State of the Union Speech:

    History records the power of the ideas that brought us here those seven years ago. Ideas like the individual's right to reach as far and as high as his or her talents will permit, the free market as an engine of economic progress and, as an ancient Chinese philosopher, Lao-tzu, said, "Govern a great nation as you would cook a small fish; do not overdo it."

    As such he was very ant-war, and he would have also been a strong supporter of separation of church and state. So some aspects of Republicans, but other aspects of Democrats.

    We are all, by any practical definition of the words, foolproof and incapable of error. - HAL 9000

    by MarkC on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 05:50:17 PM PST

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