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After the Parade: What Happens to the Veterans After the Ticker Tape's Swept Up?

Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 12:29:25 PM PDT

When Johnny comes marching home again,
Hurrah! Hurrah!
We'll give him a hearty welcome then
Hurrah! Hurrah!
The men will cheer and the boys will shout
The ladies they will all turn out
And we'll all feel gay when Johnny comes marching home. link

The trumpets blare. The drums sound off. The hands are clapping. Hands are waving. People are cheering.

The soldiers...our soldiers...roll, march, and limp past.

What happens after the parade?

AS AMERICANS finishing their service in Iraq or Afghanistan are now seeing, the journey home after military service can be grueling. While the majority end up rejoining civilian life successfully, the burden of injuries, mental illness or economic disruption proves too great for many others. And as a new report details, a disturbingly high number of veterans end up homeless.

And although the Globe has since revised its numbers down from the original 467,000 to

Because of a miscalculation by the National Alliance to End Homelessness, an editorial Monday cited an incorrect estimate of the number of US veterans who were homeless at some point during 2006. The proper estimate is 337,000,

the fact that there are still over a quarter of a million homeless veterans is still incredibly troubling regardless of what Dean Barnett over at the Weekly Standard thinks in his piece "The Last Talking Point of the Left":

For every vet with problems--and they certainly exist, though I would guess in percentages far below that of the comparable civilian population--there are dozens of vets out there building businesses, raising families, and leading communities. Many give up weekends and vacations to stay in the Guard and Reserve. But I guess those guys aren't cool enough or useful enough.

That Dean is able to point out that there are veterans who are able to come back and reintegrate into society is awesome...incredible...and should be celebrated from the rooftops. Each one deserves to lauded for his or her ability to adjust and readjust to an old familiar surroundings that isn't quite as familiar as it used to be.

However, after the parade is over and those veterans begin to reintegrate, some...many...don't succeed with the speed or ability that you seem to think they should. Many fall behind and don't ever really come back.

Those ones? The ones that the Globe is talking about?

These veterans:

Veterans are at risk. Many grapple with traumatic brain injuries, the loss of limbs, posttraumatic stress disorder, and mental illness. Some need to find jobs and housing. Others lack social ties to family and friends, especially after having served on long tours of duty.

They need help to make it back...as best as they can and as best as we can offer:

Every soldier who returns home either from combat or regular duty has to reintegrate, whether into familiar or new environments. Therefore programs to assist those with the most challenges are vital to the well-being of the soldiers, their families and friends, and their communities. link

And Dean? As Eddie Lucio also pointed out last month:

On Veterans Day we remember our troops but honoring those who have served or are serving without meeting their pressing needs is akin to christening a naval ship and keeping it dry docked.

There are other things that can be done to help returning veterans on a local, state, and national levels.

For example, the National Alliance to End Homelessness

recommends creating 25,000 units of supportive housing for chronically homeless veterans - those who are homeless repeatedly or continuously for long periods of time. This would create communities where veterans could support one another. The estimated construction costs would be $3 billion, and another $1.2 billion would cover five years of operating costs. Such an investment could also help future generations of veterans, if the housing is well maintained.

Additionally big cheers go out to WWII veteran (and I think Iraq War critic) Jerome Kohlberg

I know how important an education is, and how well the country will be served by making this investment in our veterans," he said. "Regardless of your feeling about the war, we're spending trillions of dollars on it and almost nothing on the people fighting it. We owe them so much, and we're not doing a damned thing for them. I want to see that change."

Kohlberg's national scholarship program is designed to bridge what he calls the "GI gap" between the actual costs of a college education and the funds available to veterans through military benefits and other grants. The plan is to provide scholarships to at least one veteran in every state and the District of Columbia for the spring and fall college terms in 2008. He said he hoped that as other individuals, corporations and foundations made contributions, the effort could expand.

Also, a new GI Bill needs to make it through Congress:

To that end, Sens. Jim Webb of Virginia, Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas have introduced the Post 9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Act - legislation that would match the educational benefits received by World War II veterans.

Where the original GI Bill was able to help returning veterans get a bang up education, the current plan

entitles Iraq and Afghanistan veterans to receive a maximum education benefit of $1,101 per month, or $39,636 over four years. National Guard members and reservists who serve in combat zones are entitled to even less. Meanwhile, the College Board reports that the average four-year state school costs upward of $65,000, while some private colleges can charge more than $133,000 over four years.

There are many many other items for this list. PTSD treatment plans...VA benefits...Walter Reed maintenance...disability advocacy...educational opportunities...credit card counseling...

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  •  Please contact your reps (9+ / 0-)

    regarding the need for the Webb-Hagel GI Bill.

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    by kredwyn on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 12:34:00 PM PDT

  •  Most parades and veteran day events (6+ / 0-)

    feature gun salutes, jet flyovers, or a few words by a politician next to a grave site.

    The "troops" to the Republicans are just a prop used in their election campaigns, just like the wedge issues.

    You're right about the GI Bill. For me, it was the first step toward earning a Ph.D.

    Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity. Horace Mann (and btw, the bike in kayakbiker is a bicycle)

    by Kayakbiker on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 12:38:08 PM PDT

    •  Kohlberg's scholarship plan... (3+ / 0-)

      is going to be a solid help. But he's right...it's a drop in the bucket to what needs to be done.

      The Alliance's plan is a big one. Was talking with a vet/cop friend of mine last night. Our county's $4M in the hole...they've had to cut back on hiring new police officers and cutting out the extra hours.
      Funding issues are big big problems right now.

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      by kredwyn on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 12:46:32 PM PDT

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  •  A more appropriate set of lyrics, (3+ / 0-)

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    the originals, for the same tune.  ANd all too chillingly, heart achingly true.  WHen sung properly, this song gives me chills.

    While goin' the road to sweet Athy, hurroo, hurroo
    While goin' the road to sweet Athy, hurroo, hurroo
    While goin' the road to sweet Athy
    A stick in me hand and a drop in me eye
    A doleful damsel I heard cry,
    Johnny I hardly knew ye.
    With your drums and guns and drums and guns, hurroo, hurroo
    With your drums and guns and drums and guns, hurroo, hurroo
    With your drums and guns and drums and guns
    The enemy nearly slew ye
    Oh my darling dear, Ye look so queer
    Johnny I hardly knew ye.

    Where are your eyes that were so mild, hurroo, hurroo
    Where are your eyes that were so mild, hurroo, hurroo
    Where are your eyes that were so mild
    When my heart you so beguiled
    Why did ye run from me and the child
    Oh Johnny, I hardly knew ye.

    Where are your legs that used to run, hurroo, hurroo
    Where are your legs that used to run, hurroo, hurroo
    Where are your legs that used to run
    When you went for to carry a gun
    Indeed your dancing days are done
    Oh Johnny, I hardly knew ye.

    I'm happy for to see ye home, hurroo, hurroo
    I'm happy for to see ye home, hurroo, hurroo
    I'm happy for to see ye home
    All from the island of Sulloon
    So low in flesh, so high in bone
    Oh Johnny I hardly knew ye.

    Ye haven't an arm, ye haven't a leg, hurroo, hurroo
    Ye haven't an arm, ye haven't a leg, hurroo, hurroo
    Ye haven't an arm, ye haven't a leg
    Ye're an armless, boneless, chickenless egg
    Ye'll have to put with a bowl out to beg
    Oh Johnny I hardly knew ye.

    They're rolling out the guns again, hurroo, hurroo
    They're rolling out the guns again, hurroo, hurroo
    They're rolling out the guns again
    But they never will take our sons again
    No they never will take our sons again
    Johnny I'm swearing to ye.

    http://www.ireland-information.com/...

    The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

    by irishwitch on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 01:01:37 PM PDT

    •  was trying for the cheerful (3+ / 0-)

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      ticker tape parade meme as a beginning...

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      by kredwyn on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 01:07:53 PM PDT

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      •  Yeah but this fits how it ends. (0+ / 0-)

        The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

        by irishwitch on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 02:17:41 PM PDT

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        •  I suppose...was trying to point out... (2+ / 0-)

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          that there are people who're trying to make a difference in the situation...and they need help.

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          by kredwyn on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 02:20:39 PM PDT

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          •  I got your point. (1+ / 0-)

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            Really I did. It's just that the original lyrics, to me, say everything about what happens all too often to the vets who survive. And this is pretty close to where we are now.  People are working to change it, but that doesn't change the grimness of the mess we're in. Dumping people with PTSD onto the streets claiming t hey had pre-existing PDs, when it's pretty obvious that PDs make rotten soldiers because they can't handle orders.  Carefully avoiding labeling peopekl as having pTSD or TBIs so they don't have to treat them. Screwing with the amount of disability deliberately to lower thempount the person gets.

            I guess I am justs truck by the differene between When Johnn COmes Marchign home and Johnny, I Hardly Knew Ye as  metaphor between what should be and what is.

            The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

            by irishwitch on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 02:30:10 PM PDT

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  •  After The Parade ... the lyrics (1+ / 0-)

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    kredwyn

    Here are the lyrics of Dan Bern's After The Parade, from his 2004 album My Country II:

    After the Parade

    I shot two men in a military car
    On a road in a country I can't pronounce
    I saw their eyes when I pulled the trigger
    Then checked the back seat for the body count
    I know I'm lucky, I could have been
    The one beneath the clover
    But who do you think will push my chair
    After the parade is over

    A three star general at my back
    And another one up at the microphone
    They call me a hero
    And sing 'say can you see'
    To the pole where the flag is flown
    Everyone stands when my name is called
    I alone must sit in the god damn sun, and
    Who do you think will push my chair
    After the parade is done

    Maybe I'll go to college
    GI bill
    GI bill
    Maybe I'll go into politics
    Yes I will
    Yes I will

    I'm glad for the disability benefits
    I'm glad for the medals and the ribbons and the songs
    I hope the blisters on my fingers
    Turn into calluses before too long
    I'm glad my mother could be here today
    I'm glad somebody drove her
    And maybe she will push my chair
    After the parade is over
    Maybe she will push my chair
    After the parade is over

    The way to win is not to move to the right wing; the way to win is to move to the right policy. -- Nameless Soldier

    by N in Seattle on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 02:00:03 PM PDT

  •  Dean Barrnett (2+ / 0-)

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    At what level of homelessness is Dean Barnett comfortable when he gets into his nice comfy bed?

    Unfortunately its another conservative with a cavalier attitude towards the american military.

    Has he no idea that in 06, a record number of service personnel took their own lives?

    Some of this record defense spending should go on the Vets, alot of people have to get beyond the we gave them a parade mentality, and actual support those brave patriotic service personnel who have given so much, yet ask so little of us all.

  •  Homeless Veteran (2+ / 0-)

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    Only a nation on the way to the bottom of the abyss would allow any of its citizens to be labeled a "homeless veteran".

    We have in front of us an opportunity to make this (once again) the greatest country on the planet. But we will never succeed unless we take care of, educate, and challenge our returning veterans.

    They need emotional, financial, medical and psychiatric support to succeed.

    And we need them to succeed because they are the new leaders for which we have been seeking.

    Obama For America (Wesley Clark for VP or Sec. DEF. or ...

    by TekBoss on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 02:12:51 PM PDT

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