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McCain in Nashua: Last Man Standing?

Sun Dec 09, 2007 at 03:46:00 PM PDT

The last time I saw John McCain, he had just won the 2000 New Hampshire primary. My wife and I, to our own surprise and largely out of apathy with the Gore-Bradley race, had voted for him. As the returns started coming in and the magnitude of his upset of George W. Bush was becoming clear, I heard a CNN reporter sign off from the hotel where the victory party was starting. "That's just a few miles from here," I said. "We could go."

Nobody stopped us at the door and we shoe-horned ourselves into the crowd of people standing in the ballroom. Eventually McCain came out to make a victory announcement. I don't remember a word he said, just the buzz of hope and excitement in the room. Only a week or two before, the nomination of George II had been inevitable. And now it wasn't. Anything could happen.

That was a long time ago. But Saturday morning John McCain was back in Nashua.

[cross-posted on Blue Hampshire and Open Source Journalism]

At a town-hall meeting in the Senior Center, about 300 of us surrounded a square plywood platform six inches high and ten feet on a side. From my front-row seat, I kept worrying that McCain, older now and less steady, would back off the edge of the platform and fall. But he never did.

McCain is  still a master of the town-hall format.  He answers questions -- even hostile questions -- patiently and with empathy.  ("Meeting adjourned," he announces in response to the first gotcha. The room erupts in laughter, and then he answers.) He tells corny jokes and at the same time manages to wink at you, as if the real joke is that you have to tell jokes to win the world's most serious job. He runs himself down, confessing to being fifth from the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy, saying that his candidacy proves that "in America anything is possible." And yet no one in the room forgets that he is John McCain, and he has survived things that would have destroyed any mere mortal. It is an amazing balancing act, much better than answering questions from all sides without falling off a plywood platform.

McCain's campaign centers on character. The warm-up video starts with his POW experience, and is full of testimonials from people who have known him for a very long time, concluding with his mother -- a surprisingly youthful woman -- telling us how lucky this country would be to have Johnny as its president. (I doubt my mom would describe my virtues with nearly so much conviction.) The same themes sound again and again: country before self, volunteering for the hard job, refusing to take the easy way out.

He is at his best when he can translate those character themes directly into issues like "the challenge of radical Islamic extremism." The other Republicans (besides Ron Paul) are running on a lesser-evil platform: We have to be bad because our enemies are worse. Strength means abandoning airy-fairy ideals and cutting corners on morality. But to McCain, idealism is strength. "We won the Cold War not with a tank battle on the plains of Western Europe. We won the Cold War because we were able to prove that we and everything we stood for were far superior to the forces of communism and the evil represented by the Soviet Union. That’s the way we’re going to win this ideological struggle over the long run. And that’s why I will declare we will not torture anyone in our custody and I will close Guantanamo Bay."

I came to watch the audience as much as the candidate. During the Bush years I have grown increasingly alienated from Republicans and suspicious of their base. The televised Republican debates seem like Saturday Night Live skits, as the candidates compete to see who can be nastier to illegal immigrants and more vicious towards suspected terrorists. (Romney promises to double Guantanamo's prison, not close it. He doesn't say who he will put there.) What kind of freak show, I wondered, is a Republican rally these days?

Not much of one at all, if this was typical. True, we were overwhelmingly white -- one black was there to collect signatures for Health Care Voters and the other was part of a class field trip from Tufts. But in New Hampshire even Obama doesn't draw many more. One lunatic question -- about par for the course -- promoted some conspiracy theory about the UN. Democratic rallies have their own lunatics, and the questions are different but no better. At worst everyone else sounded like someone you could have a reasonable disagreement with. A question expressing "rage" about illegal immigration got only a smattering of applause. (The round of applause I started in response to the no-torture pledge was louder.) The hot-button social issues -- abortion, gay marriage -- were conspicuously absent. McCain didn't mention them and neither did we.

No candidate is more identified with the Iraq War than McCain. Up to now it has worked against him, but (at least among Republican voters) it may be turning in his favor. Saturday he told the story like this: "I believed like everybody else did that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, and I believed that we could win a quick initial military victory." He admits Saddam did not have WMDs, but defends the decision to remove him from power. And we did "win a lightning-like initial victory." But he blames Donald Rumsfeld's few-boots-on-the-ground strategy for botching the promise of that success.

He portrays himself as a consistent critic of that strategy, and sees the Surge as his vindication. "I went over there and I saw that the Rumsfeld strategy was not only not working, but it was doomed to failure. And I came back and I gave speeches and I said we’ve got to stop this. We’ve got to change the strategy to one that can succeed. ... After nearly four years of failure we finally got rid of Rumsfeld and we got a new strategy. ... Now we are succeeding in Iraq. ... I’m the only one of those running for the nomination of this party that said Rumsfeld would fail and what we needed to do, who stood up while [the other Republican candidates] were either quiet or supported other courses of action. I did that because I’ve had the background and experience to make the right judgment."

I have scruples about questioning candidates I have decided not to vote for. (I'm voting in the Democratic primary this year, probably for Edwards.) I consider myself a guest at their rallies, so I won't ask a question just to embarrass them. But I really wanted to know, so I pushed McCain on Iraq: "I understand why you don’t want to set a date to get all our troops out of Iraq. But all the hopeful things I hear about Iraq seem awfully vague. And I want to know: Are we still going to be losing people there ten years from now, twenty years from now? Are we still going to be spending $10 billion a month ten years from now, twenty years from now?"

And he answered: "No. I understand your skepticism/cynicism. Because for nearly four years we were told ‘mission accomplished', 'a few dead enders', 'the last throes', 'stuff happens’ -- I’m sure you remember all those – while things were going bad in Iraq." He pointed to the recent drop in casualties and other improving statistics as evidence that the Surge is finally the right strategy. He predicted that within months ("I can't say exactly how many months") General Petraeus would announce that the situation had improved to the point where we could start drawing down troop levels. (He'd better. There aren't any more troops to send.) From there, McCain expects the Iraqi army to take up more and more of the burden until American casualties are essentially zero. He leaves open the possibility of a long-term American presence in Iraq, but thinks the American people will accept that if we aren't constantly losing people.

We'll see. That story can keep working through the primaries. But some further visible improvement will be necessary by November.

I was pleased to hear McCain take global warming seriously. In the 2000 campaign, he admits, "I didn't know anything about climate change." But he credits Senate committee hearings with making him realize "there is an overwhelming body of scientific opinion that climate change is real and that it can have devastating effects on our planet. ... We’ve got to develop green technologies. We’ve got to go back to nuclear power. We have to emphasize wind and solar. We also have to practice conservation. ... We should be able to develop a battery that will take a car 200 miles. We should go to ethanol – all kinds of ethanol. Not just corn-based, but sugar-cane-based and other biofuels. We can do it if we give it the priority it deserves. My friends, green technologies are good." He insists that nuclear power is safe, and points to the French, who get 80% of their power from nuclear plants. "They’re closer to their Kyoto goals than any other country."

When a woman holding an infant asked what a McCain administration had to offer her children, he answered: "A cleaner planet. A government that they can trust in. A safety net system that will be there for them of Social Security and Medicare, and a nation that is a beacon of hope and liberty and freedom and a shining city on a hill."

McCain's status as the early Republican front-runner is long gone. He's in single digits in Iowa and in the teens in New Hampshire. And it's getting late to turn things around. But the Republicans have been playing whack-a-mole with their candidates lately. Scandal is draining Giulani's always luke-warm support. Romney has never had much of a national following, and his Iowa-based strategy seems to be failing. Thompson never caught fire. Huckabee is the surging candidate, but the party's plutocrat wing has no more stomach for him than the evangelicals have for Giuliani. The plutocrats' knives are out now, and we'll see over the next few weeks whether Huckabee can fend them off.

McCain may yet be the last man standing. Evangelicals prefer him to Giuliani. Plutocrats will take him over Huckabee. And I keep waiting for Republicans to notice that only McCain can deliver the full anti-Hillary message. Romney can't make the case that she's phony and calculating, because who is more phony and calculating than Romney? Giuliani can't point to the Clinton scandals, because the Clintons are a model family next to the Giulianis. Huckabee can't fear-monger about terrorism, because Hillary's security credentials are better than his. If Republicans want to deploy the complete Clinton Attack Armada, they need McCain.

Years ago, McCain's electability was undeniable. His candidacy would have drawn overwhelming support from moderates and even from a few liberals willing to choose character over ideology. But like Colin Powell and Tony Blair, John McCain co-signed for Bush's war and has been left holding the debt. If he's going to make it to the White House now, he's going to need a lot of help from Baghdad. The news has to be good from now to November.

That would take a ridiculous run of luck, both for McCain and for America's war effort. I wouldn't bet on it, but I think he would. "I'm the luckiest guy I've ever known," he says on the campaign video. "I've never known anyone as fortunate as I am."

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  •  we need honest Republicans (1+ / 0-)

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    NYFM

    not necessarily saying McCain is honest, given his BS on Iraq, but compared to the others he towers above. and since the GOp will probably always be a major player, we need some Republicans who aren't completely insane. (again not really saying this fits McCain.)
    I think a Huckabee-McCain ticket would be VERY difficult to beat, especially for our more corporate candidates (no names).

    we should work to defeat any candidate who steals the Democratic nomination.

    by catchaz on Sun Dec 09, 2007 at 03:54:47 PM PDT

  •  Huckabee (3+ / 0-)

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    Marie, seeker, NYFM

    will not be the GOP nominee

    The rape/murder horror will do him in.

    "Proud to proclaim: I am a Bleeding Heart Liberal"

    by sara seattle on Sun Dec 09, 2007 at 03:56:52 PM PDT

  •  I do think a Huckabee and McCain ticket (1+ / 0-)

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    would be formidable. The two guys have chops in intimate settings. I've seen both of them speak, and neither seem particularly fake 90% of the time.

    I don't count McCain out. He's still the dark horse in this race, and we could easily see a resurgence in New Hampshire.

    McCain polls very well against our candidates, and Huckabee increasingly so. He's at a dead heat with Clinton in the latest Rasmussen poll, and beats her in Arkansas. He still trails Obama and Edwards by 4, but that's not much.

    It's worrisome. While I would take McCain or the Huckster over Bush now, it'd be a grave disappointment.

    'Fie upon the Congress' - Sen Bob Byrd

    by Maxwell on Sun Dec 09, 2007 at 04:04:34 PM PDT

  •  nice diary and i agree Mcbush it is, he will be (0+ / 0-)

    on the ticket, and with Brownback?

  •  McCain might have a chance. (2+ / 0-)

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    A big loss in Iowa will hurt him, but if he can take 2nd place or 3rd place in New Hampshire, we might see it come down to Huck/Rom/McCain, with Giuliani sinking like a rock and Thompson dropping out.

    McCain's only chance is to win in Michigan or Nevada, to put himself on the scoreboard before Feb 5th.  Can that happen?  Maybe, if Giuliani & Thompson collapse rapidly enough, and if Romney continues losing support.  Also, McCain will need a massive increase in fundraising.

    I'd say he has about a 5% chance.

  •  McCain has a problem in the early states. (0+ / 0-)

    He could finish 5th or 6th in Iowa, and he can't make a big splash in NH because there are a lot of indy's who will be voting in the dem primary, and a lot of energy from Paul will stop him from getting over the top in NH.  And he's in the back of the pack in SC, and without a win in NH along with a poor showing in SC, he won't make any headway there either.  

    "There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible. But in the end they always fall. Think of it. Always." -- Mahatma Gandhi

    by duha on Sun Dec 09, 2007 at 04:08:47 PM PDT

  •  I think if he is 3rd or strong 4th in Iowa (2+ / 0-)

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    and finishes ahead of Guiliani but not too far off of Romney he has a shot.  I think Guiliani's 'electability' argument is going down in flames.  And I think Romney has maxxed out on his possible support and is already weakening a little (his 'electability' mantra is also DOA.)  

    I also think Thompson's support will evaporate after Iowa and McCain will be the benificary. It is really a game of inches but it looks like McCain may do well if he can go top 4 in Iowa/ 3 in NH/ 2 in SC and then pick up the support of the candidates who either drop out or are ditched for underperfroming.  I think the wingnuts will be arguing into spring and the farther he goes the better McCain will look (in comparison to hi opponents.)  

  •  I predict the safe Republican Choice (1+ / 0-)

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    Dallasdoc

    will default to John McCain.

    McCain, who is past his prime and past his time, will be run over by any eventual Democratic Nominee.

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    by ROGNM on Sun Dec 09, 2007 at 04:55:33 PM PDT

    •  Nope. (0+ / 0-)

      He has a strong appeal to the middle.

      •  I'm not sure of that (0+ / 0-)

        His appeal to the indies and moderate Democrats in 2000 was mostly seen in NH and MI where there was a big crossover vote because the Democratic primaries were either boring or moot, as the diarist suggests. Any Democratic and indie support this time around will have to be earned in the backdrop of a vigorous Democratic primary.

        Here in MI he might have a chance because of the way the DNC and MDP have screwed over the voters, but I have to think that any mischief makers (like me) will find a more fertile area for trouble in voting for ron paul than john mccain, as a win in MI for paul would send huge shock waves through the tradmedia elite and thus would provide more fun.

        mccain's appeal to the center is long dead.  It died with his embrace of bush. That's going to be tied around mccain's neck like george will's bow tie.

        A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

        by dougymi on Sun Dec 09, 2007 at 05:42:16 PM PDT

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    •  Agree -- he's too old (1+ / 0-)

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      The Pew poll this spring showed that being over 70 was one of the stronger disqualifiers for a candidate.  McCain not only is that old, he looks that old.  A general election campaign will not show him off to best advantage, either.  You can't rest up and run a Rose Garden campaign if you're trying to overcome the odds.

      McCain's support for the war is wide and deep, and campaign ads featuring his long record of support for the Iraq occupation would finish him off.

      Hanoi didn't break John McCain, but Washington did.

      by Dallasdoc on Sun Dec 09, 2007 at 05:10:42 PM PDT

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  •  I agree that McCain is the formidable candidate.. (1+ / 0-)

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    ...now that Huckabee has more than trivial issues.  Once that woman goes on TV, as I'm sure she will (because she all but promised she would back in 1992, if it ever became necessary) to reprise the "as close to my face as I am to yours," he will be roadkill.  I was a big believer in Huck's electoral appeal until this week, and most scandals are survivable, but this one isn't--now that it's a genuine scandal, rather than just a tragic error of judgment that came from an excess of Christian compassion.  For a guy like Huck, whose only asset is aw-shucks candor, any evidence of lies and cover-ups is fatal.

    McCain is hard to attack because he's pre-emtpively attacked himself: about Charles Keating, and to some extent about Iraq.  He does have a vulnerability there, because he back-dates his discomfort with the Rumsfeld approach by many months if not a couple of years. But to an audience that is inclined to believe in the default benevolence of American power, the guy can really rouse them.  Ironically, I think his lack of anything impressive to say about everyday domestic issues would do him in vs. any of the leading Democrats.  He's been a senator way longer than Clinton, and he is as mentally agile as he's ever been, but I think Clinton would run circles around him in domestic issues--he's been too concerned with being a Lugar-type "statesman."

    PS: Depending on how obsessed the Republicans are with immigration--and I suspect it's just the flavor of the day for most of them--McCain might be toast anyway because he's not crazy enough for their tastes.

    -5.38/-3.74 I've suffered for my country. Now it's your turn! --John McCain with apologies to Monty Python's "Protest Song"

    by Rich in PA on Sun Dec 09, 2007 at 05:35:24 PM PDT

    •  The surge (0+ / 0-)

      McCain has tied himself to the surge.  

      What happens when there is no political reconcialiation?

      What happens when the Shia no longer like our arming of the Sunnis?

      And, of course, McCain is not a lunatic about immigration.

      Wer kämpft, kann verlieren. Wer nicht kämpft, hat schon verloren. Bertolt Brecht

      by MoDem on Sun Dec 09, 2007 at 06:00:35 PM PDT

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  •  The Repubs don't have a candidate this time (0+ / 0-)

    That's a quote from my cousin in Waterloo, IA, but it's also basically what I've heard from several independents, and even a couple of Republicans, as I've been making calls for Obama this week in northern Iowa.  One registered Republican told me that he'd probably caucus with the Democrats this time, because he was impressed by several of the Democrats, and by none of the Republicans.  While I hope he'll caucus for Obama, there's no doubt at all in my mind that he'll vote Democratic next November.

    Eight years ago, I contributed a small amount of money to McCain's campaign and made some calls for him, because the prospect of George W. Bush as President scared me to death (although I've got to admit that even I didn't anticipate quite how bad a President he would be).  That succeeded in getting me on all kinds of Republican mailing lists, but I had some respect for McCain.  However, his embrace of Bush (literally and figuratively) in an effort to move to the GOP center robbed him of much of his legitimacy.  

    In addition, if elected, he would be the oldest President to be inaugurated for a first term in American history.  The polls I've seen indicate that the older a voter is, the more of a negative factor a candidate's advanced age is perceived to be -- and being in my late 50's myself, I can readily understand that.  Being President is an extremely stressful job that visibly ages anybody who holds it.  I don't have the energy level that I had 10 years ago, and the other people I know who are my age don't either.  John McCain is nearly 15 years older than me, and he looks it (although Fred Thompson, who is nearly 10 years younger than McCain, looks and acts even older than McCain).

    I think McCain still has a chance to be the GOP nominee because of the glaring weaknesses of the other GOP candidates, but I don't think he could be elected this time.  But I would look forward to an Obama-McCain campaign as one that would be fought on the real issues, and that would present the American people with a very clear choice on where we see our future as a country.

    "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security." -Ben Franklin

    by leevank on Sun Dec 09, 2007 at 08:20:27 PM PDT

  •  the field is so weak (0+ / 0-)

    that McCain could easily come back.  Heck, if it weren't for the missed filing deadlines, someone entirely new could come in and take the lead.  I think Trapper John had it right in his Republican cattle call:

       [McCain's] broke, he fired his longtime consigliere, he's hit rock bottom.  And yet . . . he's still polling moderately well everywhere, and there's nowhere to go but up.  I'm not ready to drop him from the top tier.

       --Me, August 2007.

    The sad thing is that my assessment was probably the kindest that a desperate McCain camp could have dug up during what was truly a miserable summer.  The erstwhile frontrunner was left for dead by just about everyone, but someone forgot to tell McCain that he was supposed to give up.  He took a scythe to his famously bloated staff, and began running a lean, mean, positive campaign.  Candidates who were no longer afraid of him began to talk about how he'd be their favored candidate, were they not running.  The immigration bill that had torpedoed his campaign faded into memory, as the "frontrunners" began to ape Tancredo and sound increasingly paranoid on the issue.  And his poll numbers never did slide completely off the table -- and so here we are, with McCain climbing back into a tie for second in NH, and Romney in danger of collapse at the hands of Huckabee.  Get ready to be surprised.

  •  The best of a bad bunch is still bad (0+ / 0-)

    Missing completely from this diary is the fact that McCain has sunk in the polls because he decided to slavishly endorse all things Bush, thus abandoning his image as a fiery independent and tying himself to what turned out to be a stone -- as Bush's fortunes fell, so did McCain's.

    McCain's criticism of past actions in Iraq is largely irrelevant -- his vision for the future of the war in no way differs from the pro-surge "they-stand-up-we-stand-down" blather offered by the White House.

    As for his stance on torture, I'm glad to hear he is against it -- but have we really reached the point in this country where being against torture is something for which we congratulate our candidates?  I'm sure McCain and other candidates this year are against going into shopping malls and randomly murdering passersby, but no one would think of mentioning this in their campaign literature... yet.

    McCain: Running for Hoover's 21st term

    by Finck II on Mon Dec 10, 2007 at 12:14:30 AM PDT

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