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Breakfast with Senator Obama in Beverly Hills

Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:12:07 PM PDT

As I waited for the valet to return my car at the Beverly Wilshire after a fund-raising breakfast with Senator Barack Obama, I talked briefly to the guy standing beside me. We agreed that we had both seen and heard everything that we had hoped for, and then some, that Barack Obama could be the transformational candidate that our country needs so badly.

" And I really don't think Hillary could win," said the guy, who will remain nameless.  "It's not that", I replied, "I don't think any Republican could win." "Yes, but can you imagine Giuliani winning?" "No," say I, "But I can imagine a race between Clinton and Giuliani where we all lose."

And that, really, is why I believe we need Barack Obama as our next President.

To backtrack a little, it's still bizarre that I attended an intimate fund-raising breakfast in Beverly Hills and paid $2300.00 for the privilege. I've never traveled in the moneyed crowd, and especially not with the folks who bundle big dollar contributions. There's was a surreal  Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail quality to the experience, especially as I listened to NPR and heard Mara Liasson and Chris Lehane talk about Senator Obama's trip to California, with typically vapid conversation about Hollywood money and fund-raising.

While I have a certain reluctance to gossip about what goes on in private functions, I was given a mission by Senator Obama, as were the other sixty peopled in the room, to be part of a viral campaign that would share his message and my belief in his candidacy, and it doesn't get any more viral than a DK diary.

I was one of several hundred select people who were invited to attend a Dreamworks guys dinner tonight, obviously based on my attendance at a big dollar Kerry lunch in 2004. I also had a choice, for the same price, to attend more intimate events at lunch and dinner, but could really only fit the breakfast into my schedule.

All six ten-person tables were filled, although there wasn't a star in sight. ( I was really hoping for Larry David ) As far as I could tell, most of the attendees were from the business or legal communities of LA, and they were basically there because they wanted to see and hear for themselves, and judge the candidate.

Like me, and most Kossacks, they want to believe in a candidate with a positive vision for change. They just happen to be ones with a lot of money.

I decided to give early money to some candidate this cycle, and my 21 year old son convinced me that Obama was the only candidate with the potential to change the country in a fundamental way, so you pays your money, and you takes your cherce.

As a cynic, I was prepared to be disappointed. How could this slender, humble freshman Senator from Illinois live up to the audacity of my hope - the dream that we might find a national leader who could suck the venom from our snakebit country?  As I was driving down Wilshire, I wished that "Who's Next" was in the CD changer, yet settled for Bob Marley's "Redemption Song".

I wasn't disappointed. Instead, I came away exhilirated.

After Senator OBama worked the room, talking personally to each of the attendees, he spoke about the campaign. His eloquence was not oratorical, but instead a humble, thoughtful, intelligent discourse about our country and the campaign that he has been called to run. In words foreshadowed, yet never completely articulated by my hero Howard Dean, Barack Obama spoke about being a vehicle, a vessel for a longing that he had observed in Americans, and especially in younger Americans whose entire political life has been one of poison and cynicism.

The Senator was not anxious to run for President. He could easily have completed a term in the Senate, gone back to Illinois to easily win a Governor's seat, and be a young candidate for President in ten years.

Yet as he traveled during 2006, campaigning for other Democrats, he  heard and felt the better spirit, the generosity and goodness of the American people, tuning out the hatred and looking for a transformation in our political climate. He has been convinced that he is the only candidate who can effect that change, that the time is so compelling, that the turning point is so important, that he needs to be the vehicle of this hope.

He's not running against the other candidates. He is running against cynicism, and against the administration that filled the void created when fear and cynicism triumphed.

Senator Obama talked about policy, and about process, and his major goals for reconstituting America's role in the world, beginning a process to fix our health care system, and moving to a sustainable economy where we aren't held hostage by our dependence on oil. He answered questions, and gave the kind of answers that I have always wanted to hear from an American President.

But what he really talked about, and what every person in the room paid to hear, was about transformation of our political system.

In re-reading this diary, I know I'm only capturing a part of what I saw, heard, and felt this morning, but Barack Obama was compelling in a way that we haven't seen since Bobby Kennedy was shot, and it is genuine in a way that  give me hope for this country, for the first time in a long time.

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    •  Thank you, Aeolus (7+ / 0-)

      Reading your diary made me feel like I was in the room with you and the others.

      I got a chance to see him in Las Vegas on Sunday with 4,000 other people who came to hear his message of hope.  He is very special.

      "The struggle of humanity against power, is the struggle of memory against forgetting." -- Milan Kundera

      by LV Pol Girl on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:31:23 PM PDT

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    •  You know (7+ / 0-)

      I am totally sympathetic to the need for hardcore policy change to even begin to undo the damage done the past six years.  And I will be more and more agitated to see that change as days/weeks/months wear on.  However, the thing that moved you is what moves me about Obama.  His vision is to transform the system in a way that makes all those other changes possible...Give people a reason to believe in public service and government again.  

      "Politics didn't lead me to working people. Working people led me to politics." Barack Obama

      by MLDB on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:33:37 PM PDT

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    •  You saw what I saw (11+ / 0-)

      and experienced when I went to his town hall mtg. in my little conservative corner of Illinois.  Skeptics became believers, and everyone left just saying "wow" to each other.  He is just so different than the typical candidate.  He speaks from the heart and people feel his sincerity. I deeply feel he offers the best hope to change the political climate in this country and around the world.

      •  That's what concerned me - the "wow". (3+ / 0-)

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        I want a candidate who I agree with on policy and who will make real change.  "Wow" is too much of a cult of personality.  

        I do not believe Obama will make real change if he wins -- not the kind I want.  If I did, I would have supported him.  The "wow" just was not enough for me.  I know many here disagree and think he will transform America.  If he is nominated, I hope you are right.  I think he will be a "progressive," a moderate and not a liberal, too moderate for me, and we will miss a chance to make trasnformative change.

        I know you all believe in him and I would not seek to change your faith.  We will see.  If he wins the nomination, I certianly would work hard for his election.    

        "The answer is to end our reliance on carbon-based fuels." Al Gore, 7/17/08

        by TomP on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:55:34 PM PDT

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        •  Obama as policy wonk (11+ / 0-)

          My diary didn't touch on it enough, but I am very much a policy wonk and one of the exciting things about Senator Obama is the way that he talks about policy, how to reach consensus on policy, and how to implement changes in policy intelligently.

          On health care, he was went into details about the problems of transition from our current broken system to an efficient single-payer system, beginning with managing information well and managing the care of the 20% of the population who consume 80% of the health-care.

        •  The wow is not because (6+ / 0-)

          we just saw Elvis.  It's because we believe that this is the person, who appears to be at remarkable ease with himself and his view of what can be, offers so much hope for a better America.  It's an elevated view that he has, something above the norm.

        •  Is there such a thing as a "perfect candidate?" (6+ / 0-)

          Of course not, but I believe that Obama is the right man at the right time to lead our country.  I believe that a true leader leads with inspiration and hope.

          I heard a little old lady last night say that she was reading his book and she kept asking her daughter what some of the words in the book meant.  Her daughter told her to get a dictionary. This little old lady is grasping onto the audacity of hope for the future and scrutinizing every word in his book.

          I can say the same about my kids.  They are interested in a candidate for the first time. My daughter heard Hillary in person twice but she donated for the first time to a candidate a couple of weeks ago.  

          That donation went Senator Barack Obama.

          "There's not a liberal America and a conservative America - there's the United States of America." Barack Obama

          by thefos on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 01:26:45 PM PDT

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    •  Barack in SF: a repost of my barackobama.com blog (1+ / 0-)

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      ... because so much of what has been said here mirrors my thoughts

      Oh, how I wish I still had a press pass last night.

      It's 4:45pm downtown San Francisco. Union Square, across from the venerable St, Francis Hotel where the Senator will soon be speaking to honor Senator Boxer's 30 years in politics. No kidding, you can tell just by looking at people's faces who has a ticket and who has no idea Barack is coming. A few news vans, cameras set up. One of those incredile San Francisco afternoons, a crescent moon rising over the skyscrapers. Sportcoat temperature.

      A troupe of African drummers and dancers are performing just outside the square, so perfect we walk over to snap pictures and ask if they are here for Obama. They had no idea but when I tell them he's coming they churn it up big time and soon people are stopping to watch.

      The line heading into the ballroom are wide and long --about 1400 paid from $100 to $4000 (for private session) to listen to Barack. Nobody's pretending otherwise, even  Boxer when the progrm finally begins at 6:45, thanks her supporters and turns the microphone over to Obama.

      But during the wait, I spoke with just about everyone I could in the group around me. A long married couple who had attended a global warming conference the day before and said they'd been waiting for a moment like this since the 60s; a middle aged mom proud that her son would be at the LA rally the next day and was determined to shake Obama's hand (she did!); a group of college students looking dazed and a tad out of place in such opulent surroundings. The room quickly became quite stuffy, one of the girls passed out. A doctor came. They found her a chair because there was no way she was leaving now after getting so close.

      When Obama takes the stage? Well, it is one of those moments when you just wish you could get your head into your body so you could actually experience what was happening. All these cell phones rolling reminds me of how accustomed we are to mediating our reality. Be in the moment, we have to be in the moment if we're going to win this thing.

      The stump speach is impressive, and you really get the feeling that Obama knows is quite clear about exactly what's happening. When he says its all about you, there is just no doubt about it. And it makes me realize how wise he is right now not to flesh out his policies just yet; how much sense it makes in this point in the campaign to stick to identifying the problems, to continue to drill them into our minds for the time being. We all know what's wrong, he says. But Im going to lay it all out for all of us from up here, on the podium, under the spotlight, to give voice to them. Here comes your power, guys.  

      There we are, I tell you it feels like we are all on that stage, talking about the rift between the government and the people, comparing it to the rift that existed between slave and master. And look what the American people did with that.

      You all know the rap. But if you haven't had the chance to see him yet, don't wait too long. Obama is so comfortable in his skin, unrehearsed. I wanted to find him an armchair and pop open some beers. He's like one of us; they haven't taken him over yet.  We've got to claim this man as ours, find innovative and exciting ways to fund this campaign. We don't want Obama owing too many favors.

      After the speech, I turned around. The room was one big smile. Buoyant, like all our feet were a few inches above the ground. People were just smiling and hugging each other, no strangers in that crowd.

      There's frustration in these blogs about organization, guidelines, the web experience. But let me tell you this. Boxer's son arranged last night's event. They had no idea when they announced this fundraiser that 1400 people would show up. He took to the stage 20 minutes before his mother came out, and apologized profusely for not being prepared to handle the size of the crowd. It usally takes Boxer 6 months to sell an event for 300. This event sold out at 1400 in two days.So we all had to stand, waiting as the crowd filled the room. Things were a little out of control. I remember that's how it was when the web was born. back in the days of The Well and Magellan and Yahoo. All these learners drawn simultaneously to participate in a communication revolution.

      Seems a lot like that to me. If Im right, we'll figure all this out just fine. And it will be years, YEARS before those other guys even have an inkling. By then it will be too late. We will have taken back America while they're still struggling to conceptualize what's happened.

      We just have to stay in the moment. Something so much of the world has forgotten how to do.

      I have to admit, I did try to take a few pictures with my cell phone camera to send them to my daughter. She called me up and said "Mom, he isn't even in the picture! You've got to learn how to focus."

      But that's just the point. I was focusing

  •  Is he still skipping the (4+ / 0-)

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    Nevada debate before union members?

    "The answer is to end our reliance on carbon-based fuels." Al Gore, 7/17/08

    by TomP on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:13:48 PM PDT

    •  It's a forum, isn't it? (6+ / 0-)

      The first of many opportunities to address the union members there.

      Take off your bedroom slippers. Put on your marching shoes. Go do some politics. - Barack Obama

      by 28th Democrat on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:31:43 PM PDT

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    •  it's not a debate but a forum (2+ / 0-)

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      "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens, can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has." -Margaret Mead

      by dpg220 on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:32:27 PM PDT

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    •  He is attending a Nevada SEIU debate on 3/21 (2+ / 0-)

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      Not a forum but a DEBATE.

      "The struggle of humanity against power, is the struggle of memory against forgetting." -- Milan Kundera

      by LV Pol Girl on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:36:39 PM PDT

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      •  So, he is skipping the "forum," (2+ / 0-)

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        but going to the debate later?

        I heard he's flying over Nevada as they have the forum.  Is that correct?  Will he be the only candidate missing or are others also missing the forum?

        "The answer is to end our reliance on carbon-based fuels." Al Gore, 7/17/08

        by TomP on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:39:59 PM PDT

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        •  He is not flying over Nevada (2+ / 0-)

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          He paid us a visit on Sunday 2/28 and he promises to make more visits. We love him in Nevada -- Southern Nevada had over 4,000 turn out to see him and Northern Nevada will get to see him soon. Obama is spreading his message of hope across the Nevada and the country.

          "The struggle of humanity against power, is the struggle of memory against forgetting." -- Milan Kundera

          by LV Pol Girl on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:45:40 PM PDT

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    •  Is this a repeat complaint from yesterday? (6+ / 0-)

      Then I will repeat what I said yesterday, too.

      Everyone wants a piece of Obama. Teens and Grannies alike are inspired by him.

      We all need to be patient and wait our turn. Let's not behave like spoiled children.
       
      I would like to see Obama in person, too.  But I also realize that he still has an important job to do in the Senate so that is priority #1.  I don't know who was on his schedule last weekend but I bet many people were disappointed when the Senate vote was scheduled for Saturday.  I for one am really glad that he stayed in Washington to do his job.

      Obama only has weekends and non session days for campaigning. I bet that his schedule is pretty tight and booked way in advance.

      This is just the beginning so I will not be asking him what he can do for me, but what can I do to help him.

      "There's not a liberal America and a conservative America - there's the United States of America." Barack Obama

      by thefos on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 01:50:47 PM PDT

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  •  He is really able to raise tons (2+ / 0-)

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    of money to compete with the cash that Hillary is going to raise.  It will be quite the race between those two and I am extremely interested to see how well Edwards continues to do over the next 10 months... not to mention the other candidates.

    Intersecting faith and politics from a liberal perspective, Faithfully Liberal

    by Peace to all on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:16:23 PM PDT

  •  I Saw Him Last Night (17+ / 0-)

    At the SF Boxer fundraiser at which he spoke. The crowd was so big that it spilled out of the ballroom. He had all 1,400 people eating out of his palms.

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."- Thomas Jefferson

    by RandyMI on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:17:11 PM PDT

    •  This makes me wonder... (10+ / 0-)

      Do polls really matter at this early in the 2008 campaign season?  Barack Obama seems to be drawing larger and larger crowds, even as early as this February and one only wonders what the rallies for Obama will be like come December 2007.

      •  It IS a long time (3+ / 0-)

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        The Obama bubble can easily pop between now and January, 2008, which is why I am glad that it was a Boxer fundraiser that I atteneded.

        "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."- Thomas Jefferson

        by RandyMI on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:31:10 PM PDT

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      •  er well (1+ / 0-)

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        lest anyone forget, Dean was a frontrunner for a while, and everyone kept talking about how big his crowds were and how much money he was raising--and yes, he raised a lot.

        What's perhaps a bit more encouraging about Obama is that he's a bit better at "playing the media" and certain members of the media as well as "mainstream Democrats" are still in love with him in a way that they weren't with Dean. Dean, to his political detriment, got too associated with the "Deaniacs", whom in retrospect seemed to have pissed off everyone who wasn't also a Deaniac.

        Barack Obama will only become president if enough people pay attention, so pay attention, dammit!

        by JMS on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 01:03:09 PM PDT

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  •  He was also in San Diego (8+ / 0-)

    and got a great response, with sell out audiences.

    The sad thing is how the money will be spent.  Ads to promote himself and to, subtly I'm sure, denegrate the other Democratic candidates. I'm am writing a diary about a new paradigm, a new way that the billions that goes down the tubes of TV ad land could be spent.

    I am quite impressed with Senator Obama.  I carefully read his faith section in "audacity of hope" and this atheist was encouraged.  The section defies sumarization as it was nuanced and, I believe, genuine. As he responded when asked about the Lakoff framing concept, "I'm not a propagandist."  And he's not.

    He seems to have a rare quality that comes once in a generation, if you're lucky.  

  •  I'm headed over to his (7+ / 0-)

    rally at 2ish today. I'm still not even close to making my decision because I want to hear from the whole field before I do so.

  •  Thank you, Aeolus (2+ / 0-)

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    Fantastic diary. I'm glad to hear that Obama lives up to the hype, because the buzz about him is so strong right now, you begin to wonder if any one human being can live up to it. What was the general response of people in the room, i.e., the other folks you sat with at the breakfast?

  •  I only hope (3+ / 0-)

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    that Barack and other Democrats will allow us working slobs to attend events at prices that we can afford.

    In order to win elections, we MUST include people of the non-monied crowd; make them believe that they too have a "stake" in the race.

    When you go to Santa Anita or Del Mar, you yell louder if you feel your $2.00 is going toward a true hope, a true contender.

    I'm not going anywhere. I'm standing up, which is how one speaks in opposition in a civilized world. - Ainsley Hayes

    by jillian on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:23:10 PM PDT

    •  Today's rally is free. (3+ / 0-)

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      Even us non-working slobs can afford that.

    •  Howard Dean proved it worked (5+ / 0-)

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      Last week, Atrios wrote:

      On May 4, 2003, Howard Dean held a $50/head fundraiser in Philadelphia.

      Then he followed up the next day with this:

      Second, it's sort of weird that no one seems to have learned the lesson that there is a way to tap into the world of small donors and create a campaign that way. This isn't limited to presidential campaigns either, frankly.

      I'm not saying that people can just abandon those tasty $2300 checks, just that they can reduce reliance on them and the time it takes to collect them if they get creative about reaching out to the masses. I've been to a couple big ticket elite fundraisers, and they're really kind of awful. A lot of rich people have a major sense of entitlement, and tend think they're geniuses, so candidates really have to pander to them.

      Anyway, it just seems like there's an initiative failure here.

      Liberal: "I still think it's a respectable word. Its root is "liber," the Latin word for "free," and isn't that what we are all about?"--Mary McGrory

      by mini mum on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:27:55 PM PDT

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  •  Thanks for the inspiration (5+ / 0-)

    I have not had the pleasure of seeing him in such a gathering (yet!), but I did see & hear him campaign passionately for my (IL-10) district's Democratic candidate.  I also was among several who was able to shake his hand & what I noticed immediately was that he looked each person in the eyes as he shook our hand.  (It's things like that that really made an impression on me as to what kind of person he is.)

    I am firmly in the Obama camp & agree 150% with you that he is the first candidate in a long time to give me hope for our country.  

    "It's not just enough to change the players. We've gotta change the game." ~ Obama

    by madame defarge on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:24:15 PM PDT

  •  It would indeed be wonderful if Candidate Obama (4+ / 0-)

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    is the dream candidate - a compassionate realist with the interests of all Americans at heart and the competence to lead with intelligence, vision, and effective leadership in a spirit of principled cooperation.

    I haven't had your experience with Obama yet, but your words carry much promise.

    Most people assume the fights are going to be the left versus the right, but it always is the reasonable versus the jerks. Jimmy Wales

    by 4Freedom on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:24:26 PM PDT

  •  thanks (6+ / 0-)

    I'm not sold on him like I am on Gore, but the more first-hand descriptions we all read of each candidate, the better prepared we will be to pick the Dem nominee when the time comes.

  •  So how does that work (4+ / 0-)

    I decided to give early money to some candidate this cycle, and my 21 year old son convinced me that Obama was the only candidate with the potential to change the country in a fundamental way, so you pays your money, and you takes your cherce.

    I'm 21 and I fail to convince my parents to donate money.  I wonder if there's a way I can I do this that I just haven't tried yet.  :)-  

    Build the Wilshire Subway!

    by SoCalLiberal on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:28:23 PM PDT

  •  I take a wait and see approach... (4+ / 0-)

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    To me, all this talk about Obama is a bit far flung.

    He's just another person running for office.  Why must we turn these humans into idols?

    He's just the newest rendition of the most tranformational person since RFK or JFK or whomeever, until the next new face comes along.

    Personally, I think Edwards better fills the legacy of RFK because of the things he stresses, his actions and message.  I do not idolize Edwards, however, even if I believe he is the best person to lead America and represent us to the world.

    As for Obama, I want to see just how he performs as a candidate, what his plans are, and why he thinks he is better to lead America than the others, BEFORE he is annointed.

    That's the problem we have these days.  We jump before we look.

    And if we cast someone as superhuman, we are sure to be disappointed when their humanness becomes evident.  And it will!

  •  Thanks for the post. I'm very optimistic (2+ / 0-)

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    about the guy myself. I love these first hand accounts.

    Take off your bedroom slippers. Put on your marching shoes. Go do some politics. - Barack Obama

    by 28th Democrat on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:34:15 PM PDT

  •  Inimate gathering of 5000 in Ames, Iowa (12+ / 0-)

    We were lucky enough to have Senator Obama on his announcement tour, and they had to change the venue twice to accommodate the crowd.

    The most exciting thing I saw was the enthusiasm that the younger people had for Obama. Teenagers and many college students see something different in this candidate, and that is why I support him so enthusiastically. My three teenagers are more excited about Obama than any other political candidate they have met, and they have met quite a few.

    If there is a Dem candidate that can get the youth excited and to the polls, it is Obama. And this is the demographic we need to hook if our party is to grow.

    Experts say that you need to get a young voter to vote your way three times, then they will tend to vote the same way for the rest of their lives. Obama could have a long-lasting effect on our party.

    •  That's almost what I like most about him (5+ / 0-)

      I feel like we're poised for a generational shift that will put repugs in the minority so we can start to solve some of the larger problems that pro-biz bias has been preventing from being addressed (energy, polution, free culture).  Already I've seen his effect on people I know who usually don't care about politics.  He could help redefine how people see our party and allow us to grow into our rightful place.

      •  That Kennedy thing (6+ / 0-)

        Obama has been making the same point of a generational-shift that made John Kennedy such a strong candidate. Obama is older than JFK was, but he still has the younger-generation spirit.

        I look around at our place in the world and at Washington (including weak Democrats in Congress and their consultants) and see a generation that has largely failed us. I am willing to look at a new generation to take us in a new direction.

        •  Me too (2+ / 0-)

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          The boomers changed a lot of the social pardigms and opened life up for us all in a general way, but they haven't been great in politics.  I started getting interested in Obama when he said it was time to get over the culture wars that began in the sixties.

  •  Thanks for the report! (3+ / 0-)

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    I recently sent Obama some coin, but not nearly as much as you did.  Thanks for kicking in.

  •  Citizen 53 (9+ / 0-)

    It would appear that others have been busier looking than you.  No offense intended, but the man is not being "annointed" and if any candidate is trying for that, you know it's HRC.  The people who support Obama do it for two reasons:

    1. They are blown away by his communication skills.
    1. They have studied his policy.

    This man definitely communicates well.  He has a way of making his ideas understandable to blue collar workers and intellectual elitests all at the same time.  However, that is not why I am supporting him.  Because, oration aside, Obama is quite the policy wonk.  The man writes legislation that addresses concerns in our system that often slip by.  For example, I have been waging a letter writing campaign for verifiable paper trails for voting.  Today, in another diary, I read about Obama's legislation concerning misleading campaign calls.  Basically, his legislation would not only make it illegal to mislead voters in campaign calls, but instant retractions and corrections would need to be made immediately, or more charges would follow.  Or his idea to make the investigative arm of Congress independant, with a public website detailing Ethics violations, the accused rep, who did the accusing, who investigated and the results of the investigation.  This would be accessable to any voter!  I could go on, but I think you get the point.

    Montesquieu and Locke are rolling in their graves right now...

    by Mannabass on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:43:32 PM PDT

    •  Voter reform needs to go further (0+ / 0-)

      It can't just be about robo calls etc. We need to eliminate black box voting entirely! I have not heard a single candidate say they would push for this. The only person I have heard talk about it was Elizabeth Edwards, she said she'd make it one of her top three priorities to eliminate it if she was first lady. I haven't heard her husband say the same, I'm hoping Obama, Edwards and HRC come out for it so I can sleep a little better! I like Obama's legislation making the investigative arm of Congress independent, that's a good first step. Obama's voting record is good, there was only one vote I really resented which was the one where he voted to allow class action lawsuits moved to federal courts, if the amount rewarded could exceed 5 million. All I was thinking about was Walmart! Imagine if that class action lawsuit was moved to federal court to a right wing corporatist judge? Still, that's the only vote I can remember that I disagreed with, there's probably more but too much research...too little time!

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      by sarahlane on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 03:45:51 PM PDT

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  •  The thing that leaves me unsettled (1+ / 0-)

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    I am not concerned about Obama as an individual.  I am sure he would be a fine president.  My concern is about the crowd around him.  Specificallly, the lack of a crowd that has been with him for decades and owes their political life to him.  

    That crowd is why I think governors and former VPs tend to wind up becoming president.  You need a cadre of completely loyal people who are willing to get in the trenches for you and simultaneously take a bullet for you if need be.

    Clinton had that in McClarty, Carville and Stephanopooulos to name a few.

    Bush has it in Rove, Gonzales, and Card.

    Reagan had Deaver, Baker, and Meese.

    Johnson didn't have that crowd around him and was not able to hang on to power.

    Carter didn't have that crowd around him and not able to hang on either.

    Dukakis didn't have that crowd, Dean didn't have that crowd, Kerry didn't  have that crowd.

    Who could possibly fill that role for Obama?

  •  I read your diary twice--it's a real page turner! (2+ / 0-)

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    Thanks for giving us this report--it was very interesting.

    I keep telling myself that I haven't picked a candidate yet.  My husband is an Edwards fan and I like Edwards a lot.  But when Obama is around--a diary, a news show--I can't take my eyes off of him.  He might be that guy so many people are coming to believe he is.  And wouldn't that be wonderful?

  •  Nice diary! (4+ / 0-)

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    I'm feeling John Edwards message right now, so it's really good to hear from those that are feeling other candidates message.

    I'm really proud of our Democratic 2008 Presidential field.

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    by funluvn1 on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 12:59:25 PM PDT

  •  I heard him speak back in December, 2005. (5+ / 0-)

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    Can't wait to hear him in person again.  

    Here is what I wrote about Obama back then:

    Barack Obama's speech was so riveting that you could almost hear a pin drop.  He finished to a thundering standing ovation.  It is my understanding that at first he turned down the request to speak at our convention because of a conflict with his daughter's piano recital.  The Florida Democratic Party countered with a promise to fly him down after the recital and have him back home to kiss his girls good night.  He not only accepted the invitation to speak but cut a check to the Florida Democratic Party as well.

    In my humble opinion, Obama is a class act.  He has intelligence, grace, humility and charisma.  I remember one priceless moment about midway through his speech, when he was mentioning something about the future of the Democratic Party looking good, some female in the audience shouted "Well, you're looking good!"  Obama put his head down momentarily trying to maintain his focus but as the room erupted in laughter, he couldn't hold back that engaging smile.

    "There's not a liberal America and a conservative America - there's the United States of America." Barack Obama

    by thefos on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 01:05:43 PM PDT

  •  Thanks and how does Obama play among latinos? (0+ / 0-)

    DURING THE DEBATES HE WILL SHINE
    THE SCEPTICS ESP THE BLACK FOLKS AND HISPANICS WILL BE WOWED

  •  Yeah, I saw that movie ... (0+ / 0-)

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    ... "Close Encounters" ... guy couldn't help himself as a mysteriously hypnotic force overcame his reason.

    Next thing he knew, he was traveling somewhere far from home to meet creatures from an alien culture.

    In your case, you ended up in Hollywood.

    Kind of creepy, no?

  •  Last night in S.F. I shook Obama's hand. (4+ / 0-)

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    And I only had to pay $160, plus stand for 2 hours, for the privilege.
     Obama didn't say much more than I've heard him say in other speeches or on TV programs, but he the crowd of 1,300+ went wild nonetheless (I almost got mashed when a group aggressively tried to get to him when he exited the room.)
     http://www.sfgate.com/
    the full story and some quotes
     This line got a big response from the audience -

    "The American people have been fed so much cynicism ... that they no longer believe that government is actually going to do them any good,'' he said.

     But he followed that up with something like (sorry, I don't have the exact quote) "and they fear it may do them any harm."

    My Karma just ran over your Dogma

    by FoundingFatherDAR on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 01:18:29 PM PDT

  •  Great report (2+ / 0-)

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    Thanks, it's up to all of us to provide this kind of content, the kind that's needed, in the coming election because the media is going to phone another one in.

    Although, I'm an Edwards supporter I totally agree that the country needs transformative change. As a Democrat, I want my party back and I want it, the party, to stand for something other than incremental change and a close alternative to the R's.

    " And I really don't think Hillary could win," said the guy, who will remain nameless.  "It's not that", I replied, "I don't think any Republican could win." "Yes, but can you imagine Giuliani winning?" "No," say I,

    "But I can imagine a race between Clinton and Giuliani where we all lose."

    Amen, I am so sick of the third way DLC Democratic party.

  •  No Offense to Obama (0+ / 0-)

    but I think talk about a new kind of positive politics is a bunch of bullshit.  Not because I don't want politics to be more civil and because I think Obama is not genuine, it's just that politics is a dirty business.  And if Obama were to win, there would be dirty and nasty attacks on him and responding with "I'm looking for a new kind of positive politics" is not gonna fly.  When things get  competitive, people will do anything to win - ON BOTH PARTIES - so a unilateral call for civility aint gonna get you anywhere but a loss.  

    Partisanship exists for a reason and he's got to kick somebody's ass if he gets attacked, but there goes his philosophy.

    •  He can fight back (4+ / 0-)

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      When he was in Ames, Iowa he chastised the press for superficial coverage (swimsuit photo) and harping on him for not having all the explicit policy positions that the Republicans and the press are hounding him for. He said that the American people are not looking for a stack of white papers yet.

      When a teenager in the press group politely asked him a question about education, Obama answered her and then turned to the press to say that they could learn from her how the press should ask questions.

      He also fought back on the Madrassas eduction BS.

      This isn't partisan fighting so much, but it indicates to me he knows how to fight back when needed.

      •  You're missing my point! (0+ / 0-)

        I'm not saying that he shouldn't dispute charges against him.  He should, does and does it fast.  I'm saying that after getting hit with so much bullshit, and it is bullshit, ie., the madrassa schooling crap, you have to attack your opponent because just going out and saying it is a lie just by itself doesn't work.  By solely just staying positive, you let yourself be framed to an extent.  As much as people say they hate negative adds, they WORK!  

        All I'm saying is that when republicans bring up bullshit he's going to get mad (to some extent he already has) and that when it becomes ugly and nasty and you can chose to fight back with an attack, but that is why it has become so partisan.  I just don't think one man is going to change the way politics is run. It is competitive and nasty with bad media, dumb people who eat that shit up and 527s.  I just think it is naive, although I wish it could work that way.

        •  He does fight back . . . (2+ / 0-)

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          He fights with an effective counter punch to dumb attacks.  There is no need to go on a character assasination campaign.  People who do that realize they have nothing of value to say to the American people so they just their damnest to make their opponent look worse.

          Most guys like Kerry, who just roll over and apologize get clobbered by this kind of campaign so he has to fight back.  But Obama is so skilled at the use of the english language, he usually makes his opponents look stupid for attacking him in the  first place.  Drugs in high school: turn that into a plus.  Australian PM's comments: turned that into a plus.  Madrassa story: turned that into a big plus with the help of CNN.  What is the one constant in all these attacks?  The attacker ended up looking stupid.

          •  It doesnt even need (0+ / 0-)

            to be negative.  Think about abortion.  Now that is an issue that is very divisive in the country and a wedge issue for voters.  It divides them.  To some extent, it's what makes many people blue or red etc.  And people are justifiably passionate about it, i'm passionate about it.  It's all fine and dandy to talk about our county as not being red and blue and democrats and republicans but these issues do divide people and his talk about us all just being americans isnt going to convince me that the right wing zealots aren't bad for the county and completely different than i am.  

            I guess i didnt do a good job explaining that the divisions in the country are to some extent real and exist because people disagree strongly and no talk about us being better than that is going to convince me, on the left, that gun control is bad, gay marriage is a sin, the iraq war is good or lower taxes is the answer, any more that it is going to convince someone on the right that abortion and gays aren't sins, etc..

            as to whether he can turn attacks into positives, well that really remains to be seen.  

            •  Yes he can. (0+ / 0-)

              I am in agreement with you on all those issues, however, you or I will never get 100 percent of the country to agree with us.  What you are proposing though would continue to divide the electorate and whichever side is bigger will do whatever they please with no kinds of checks.  Look at the damage that kind of thinking did for the 'my way or the highway' republican party.

              For abortion, how about a compromise?  Aggressive action for promoting alternatives to abortion without an outright ban.

              For gay marriage, how about civil unions?

              For iraq war, how about diplomacy and fighting smart conflicts?

              For taxes, how getting rid of the tax breaks for the oil companies and the upper 1% of the economic ladder?

              Those are called compromises that benefits everyone.  We can not get everything we want but there is a lot of common ground to cover.

    •  His rapid response is the best of any candidate (6+ / 0-)

      in the race--every attack is addressed head-on within 24 hours--and usually within 12.

      "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

      by Geekesque on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 02:05:54 PM PDT

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  •  THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT BLOG:) (6+ / 0-)

    First time commenting here on DailyKos for me.  I haven't much time as I am in between classes, but had to show my support for Barack after reading all your comments.  Very nice.  GOBAMA!!

    p.s.  at 'techpresident.com' it shows how the internet is being used by candidates.  Barack has 48,000 myspace friends, Hillary has 23,000.  I think that says a lot.  The top Republican candidate I think has 2,300.  LOL.

  •  Great diary! (1+ / 0-)

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    I only wish I was there.  I am eagerly awaiting an appearance by him to Michigan.

  •  Turned on Channel 9 and Obama's (2+ / 0-)

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    rally in South LA is drawing thousands and the sun is shining.  Cameras are everywhere and they showed a clip of the packed house at Senator Boxer's fundraiser last evening in San Francisco when Obama was very enthusiastically embraced.  The report included the mentions of Geffen having a private soiree at his home (the one that comes to mind is on the beach in Malibu)after the Dreamwork's soiree this evening if you collected a certain amount.  It was most impactful on the point that Obama is eating into the Clinton preserve becaus so many people are curious.  

    Every time history repeats itself, the price goes up... Book Tantrum! ! ! Have one with me...

    by Pithy Cherub on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 02:44:02 PM PDT

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