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Oprah...Smack Down

Sat Feb 24, 2007 at 12:22:10 AM PDT

Just in case you missed it, liar & divider estraordinaire Bill O'Leilly was a (remote) guest on Oprah a coupla days ago.  The topic:  Abused Children.

Pick yourself up off of the floor for a show recap & to see what her legions on the Oprah MBoards thought about it.

Yes, I watched the program.  You can imagine my dismay when I realized that O'Liar was going to be a guest as well.  We all remember the Shawn Hornbeck case in which O'Liar surmised that Shawn must have liked something about his captivity and that's why he never escaped his captor.  The bottom-feeder in his glory trying to cultivate his culture wars on the backs of innocent children.  Right.  Big surprise.  

Well, you'd think Oprah's people would have been on top of this before inviting O'Liar to join this particular program.  Oh & no one from this top notch staff knew that The Center for Missing Children had just dumped him as a keynote speaker because of his despicable comments?  

Oprah's first guest was an adult man who had been kidnapped & sexually abused for 4 years in the 70's when he was 13.  To her credit, O gave him the opportunity to express his anguish at what had been done to him and then asked him how he would respond to those who wondered why/how he had never left his captor.  In his case, it was not only fear of a man 100 lbs heavier, who was scary as shit, and, oh...there was the gun & threats against his person & his family.  Not that it really matters what the threat was when we are talking about a predatory adult taking control of a child.  He said it is wrong to even ask the question.  As a child, you are simply trying to survive any way you can.

Elizabeth Smart's father was next & she asked him the same question.  He also reiterated basically the same theme.  A child cannot be made the victim; the question shouldn't even be asked.  They survive...any way they can.

Then came O'Liar who took this opportunity (without any background given to the show but with a whopper of a backstory to be sure) to bring up Stockholm Syndrome. This we know was his reason for uttering his famous slime comment about Shawn Hornbeck... the I don't believe in SS and the kid must've liked being with his captor cause he was free to leave, but didn't...and it couldn't be SS...cause that's not a real syndrome. Then he proceeded to cover his smarmy behind with both fat hands as relates to these comments about Shawn Hornbeck, by naming another reason why children/victims would stay with their abusers.  Like he really believes there is one.  Sha.....  

I'm wondering why Oprah never had to ask O'Liar why he thinks kidnapped & sexually abused children don't leave their abusers.  Hmmm.  Seems like his whole opening shpiel was meant to take him off the hook before the question could be asked.  I guess it's not just the MSM who are marching to wingnut talking points & direction any more.  

To complete his worthless participation in the program he dragged up another of his topics du jour ... that it's all about the judges (especially in Vermont) who will not punish these despots and just fine them, like, $5 or something.

Thankfully, I am not the only outraged member of the peanut gallery.  I fired off an email to Oprah when the show concluded to catch her & her staff up on the facts and to make her aware that her other guest's organization (ironically enough from The Center for Missing Children) had kicked O'Liar to the curb because of comments made on this same subject.  As I perused C&L tonite, they made mention of the thousand+ comments on Oprah's message boards that seem to be a carbon copy of my own.  

If I am any judge of character, the subject will come up again on Oprah and O'Liar's name will be mentioned.  And if it doesn't... I may have to now and forever refer to Oprah as a born again Republic and close the door.

Tags: Oprah Winfrey, Bill O'Reilly, Liar, Republicans (all tags) :: Previous Tag Versions

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  •  When will folk figure out that Oprah (13+ / 0-)

    is mostly a fraud...

    a billion dollar fraud...

    it's her money that matters...

    "History is a tragedy, not a melodrama." - I.F.Stone

    by bigchin on Sat Feb 24, 2007 at 12:28:02 AM PDT

    •  I don't think she is a fraud. (6+ / 0-)

      I don't think she is a billion dollar fraud.  I think her money matters.  AND I think she is a smart woman who won't let this issue go to bed unaddressed.  Those that don't like her might prefer to watch a different program.  What Oprah is doing and financing around the world is remarkable.  Let's see what happens here.

      •  Oprah uses a lot of other people's money. (7+ / 0-)

        Everyone wins a car! That GM paid for.

        Let's build some homes in New Orleans! That building companies paid for in return for advertising.

        Let's give away my favorite things! That companies gvae us for free in return for air time.

        Anyone who reads a paper should have known about O'Reilly's idiocy, but we're talking the same Oprah that defended Mr Million Little Pieces on Larry King, without bothering to look at the evidence of plagiarism on Smoking Gun.

        This is another 'oops' moment, where the Oprah people didn't do the most basic background check before letting a moron on air.

        Fool me once, I'll punch you in the fucking head.

        by HollywoodOz on Sat Feb 24, 2007 at 01:53:42 AM PDT

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        •  Yeah, but (0+ / 0-)

          as soon as her rose colored glasses came off, Mr. Little Pieces was on her show eating crow and apologizing profusely.  He also lost a boatload of moolah after that when everyone who bought the book (who wanted it) got a refund.

          She did make it right...

          •  No, she didn't make it right. (0+ / 0-)

            She played damage control.

            Making it right would be, seeing that the guy is being accused of plagiarism, then reading the details and evidence, then doing some checking for herself, and then coming out and saying "I was had."

            Making it right is not calling Larry King on the air and saying that people are just trying to cut him down and she stands by him and his book is wonderful... and only later deciding to actually see what the hell she was just on national TV supporting.

            Fool me once, I'll punch you in the fucking head.

            by HollywoodOz on Sat Feb 24, 2007 at 01:16:57 PM PDT

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      •  I don't think she's a fraud, either (0+ / 0-)

        I do think she is naive about the intentsity of the lying liars like O'Liar and that even one guest spot on her show gives them credibility.  

        That's why I and others (probably now in the multiple thousands) are going to educate Oprah when we see that her rose-colored glasses are on.  I do believe she will address O'Liar again as soon as she hears the clip of what he actually said about Shawn Hornbeck and thankfully so many inundated her with this information.  She's an extremely powerful woman, with a very good heart, who needs to be reminded about how distasteful & divisive a-holes like O'Liar are to our society.

        It is our job to speak out...cause we know the MSM will not.

  •  Media Matters covered this yesterday (2+ / 0-)

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    here's the link

    :-)

  •  Oprah The Exploiter (4+ / 0-)

    Didn't Oprah have as her guests Shawn Hornbeck and his family about a week after he was found?

    Right there is the obvious sign that it is more about ratings and money than compassion with her.

    When do I get to vote on your marriage?

    by tvb on Sat Feb 24, 2007 at 02:17:11 AM PDT

  •  Fucking GAG (4+ / 0-)

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    deben, MariaSquared, llbear, Owllwoman

    Oprah just saying the words to O'Liely "he know's your right" is enough to make a maggot squirm.

    The last time that idiot was right was when he ....
    OK, he has never been right.  Except for the direction of his political slant.  And that is wrong.

    Another day, another devalued Dollar. -6.00, -6.21

    by funluvn1 on Sat Feb 24, 2007 at 02:19:24 AM PDT

  •  actually I thought it was a GOOD show...... (0+ / 0-)

    Oprah did a great job.  Most of the show did not even include Bill O'Reilly.  You are just focusing on the last 20 minutes of the show.

  •  I have always been a believer (1+ / 0-)

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    llbear

    that charity begins at home.  I can only wish that Oprah will do as much in the Katrina area as she does overseas since she earned her money here.  

    She has changed her looks and has lost touch with the regular people.

    She could have used the show to help more parents protect their children.  

    O Reilly has a simple mind with simple answers.  He thinks locking up all predators and if they get out putting their pictures online and handouts of those in a neighborhood is the answer.  That isn't the total answer because it makes people think that is all they have to know.  What about the guy next door who hasn't been caught?  

    Parents need to be paranoid when it comes to their children and not trust many people to be alone with them.

    O'Reilly and his fake experts say that treatment doesn't help predators, even though the real experts say that it does.

    What if a child is taken by a predator and grows up to be a predator?  That would be an interesting topic. Should they still be thrown in prison where their life is in constant danger?  Should their pictures be on the net?

    Chances are that the Missouri boy will fall in love and the female will do more to erase his tragic past than anything else.

    •  O'Reilly and his fake experts... (1+ / 0-)

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      ...that is precisely the point...fake experts. I hate to see Oprah falling into the MSM trap that you have to balance the truth with lies just because powerful people are espousing those lies. They are full of it. They have no valid data to prove their point.

  •  If you want to KNOW Oprah watch (2+ / 0-)

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    dkmich, sarasson007

    her show about traveling across the US with her friend.  She was angry most of the way.  She had to pump gas for crying out loud. Traded hotels when one wasn't good enough. That gave me a different view of the lady.

    "Though the Mills of the Gods grind slowly,Yet they grind exceeding small."

    by Owllwoman on Sat Feb 24, 2007 at 04:35:44 AM PDT

    •  I am no Oprah fan. I don't watch her show and (2+ / 0-)

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      mango, Owllwoman

      don't miss it a bit.  She is too packaged, too out of touch, and too pompous for my taste.  I know lots of people like her.  

      ...once you're willing to say whatever it takes to win, you lose. ~~Dean

      by dkmich on Sat Feb 24, 2007 at 04:47:12 AM PDT

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  •  Your hate for Bill O'REILLY is..... (0+ / 0-)

    clouding your judgement

  •  Give Oprah the Benefit of Any doubt (0+ / 0-)

    She has done way too much good.

    I didn't see the show but if you have the first 40 minutes focusing on real tragic stories and then O'Lielly lamely tries to defend his sick and twisted comments, then perhaps it's possible that she just made him look very bad without having to say anything.

    I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

    by davefromqueens on Sat Feb 24, 2007 at 05:04:33 AM PDT

    •  I did hear Oprah state (0+ / 0-)

      frequently during the show that Children are never at fault for being kidnapped and never at fault for staying with their kidnapper.  I will give Oprah that. I have watched her over the years and I see a change in her that I am not liking.  She seems to be going red.  That doesn't cloud anyones judgement here because we are the IN THE KNOW PEOPLE. We work hard at that.  We are working HARD.

      "Though the Mills of the Gods grind slowly,Yet they grind exceeding small."

      by Owllwoman on Sat Feb 24, 2007 at 05:45:42 AM PDT

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  •  I don't like that Oprah is now making a habit (3+ / 0-)

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    of having O'Reilly on her show. He was just on before the elections, and now he's on again.

    Is this now his second TV home? Is she now part of his PR machine helping to spread his warped, right-wing propaganda?

    Leave it on FOX, Oprah.

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    by Naturegal on Sat Feb 24, 2007 at 05:40:17 AM PDT

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