Hey Lou Dobbs - One out of Four Ain't Bad !

Dear Lou Dobbs,

One out of four ain't bad...

1. War on the Middle Class. Damn right!!!

2. You have stated as fact that Hugo Chavez is a dictator. This is simply not true. It's bad journalism and you are lying to your viewers. Need I remind you he was democratically elected? Twice! His big sin? He called President Bush the devil. Need I remind you, Lou, how much blood Bush and Cheney have on their hands? Oh, and Chavez doesn't play nice with the big U.S. oil companies. So, like, that's a bad thing? If you want to talk about a fascist regime, why not start right here in the U.S?

3. "The War Within". Again, you lie by overstating the dangers associated with marijuana. What is with the reefer madness crusade against pot smokers? You offer no solutions. The U.S. has among the highest incarceration rates in the world! Do you propose to throw more Americans in prison for contraband offenses so they can be sodomized by hardened criminals? Has it occurred to you that a significant portion of your audience engages in recreational drug use - and does so responsibly?

4. Broken Borders / Illegal Aliens. PLEASE, Lou, give it a rest!!! Stop wasting my time with your little personal crusade! We get it, OK? Enough!!!!

Based on the above, you are clearly out of touch 75% of the time. I hope CNN cancels your show and replaces it with something relevant.

•  Lou Dobbs panders...

  His stance on the middle class is due to the fact that it will increase veiwers with little controversy. Being in favor of the middle class? What a stand. What courage, since nearly everybody considers themselves "middle class", regardless of economic status.

  by slatsg on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 07:54:20 PM PDT

  •  Number of Shows Worth Watching on CNN

    Number of Shows Worth Watching on Cable Noise Network = Zero.  Really, name one.

    by steviemo on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 07:58:00 PM PDT

    •  I can't.....

      I don't watch CCN.

      by slatsg on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:08:06 PM PDT

    •  The john roberts show

      world at war or something like that. It's usually pretty good, albeit a little too much pandering to the bushies. CNN still has good correspondents like Michael Ware and Christiane Amanpour.  I like their international hour at noon too.  Sometimes they have good specials as well.

      Don't get me started on their "stars" like blitzer, zahn, cooper and dobbs.

      by dougymi on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:14:51 PM PDT

      •  Aaron Brown was OK

        Not exactly Mr. Excitement.  But OK.

        by steviemo on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:18:50 PM PDT

        •  releasing him was a travesty.

          they should have retired larry king and given that spot to Aaron Brown. He's just as good, if not better, than the senile king.

          by dougymi on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:32:06 PM PDT

•  Racism

  Lou Dobbs is trying to do to the progressive movement what Rush Limbaugh did to the conservatarian movement:  give xenophobes who only agree with us on economic issues a reason to join in and eventually bring it down from the inside.

  by thehim on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 07:56:31 PM PDT

  •  While I'm No Fan of Dobbs.....

    ....much of his critique on immigration's proxy role in unraveling the middle class is spot-on.  Jim Webb gets it.  Ted Kennedy doesn't.  If open-borders ideologues like yourself mindlessly insist upon equating the Jim Webbs of the Democratic Party with "racism", you needn't worry about a flurry of economic populists bringing the Democratic party down from the inside.

    by Mark27 on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:29:36 PM PDT

    •  Has Anyone...

      Has anyone actually come out and tried to make a case for open borders? Exactly what whould be their argument?

      by steviemo on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:39:18 PM PDT

      •  I've Heard Many Right Here in this Community....

        ....suggest that all borders should be open.  They come at it from several different angles, but the most common defense of the position from those on the left is that our nation's collective ancestry was able to migrate here to make a better life for themselves so current and future generations of immigrants should have the same opportunity.  I'm guessing very few people who make that argument work with their hands in construction or food processing.

        Most defenders of open-borders immigration come from the Grover Norquist wing of the GOP, who see mass immigration as a way to inflate the low-skill labor market large enough that their peeps at the country club have an unlimited pool of desperate, impoverished workers to shuttle in and out of the revolving doors at their sweatshops.

        by Mark27 on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:45:47 PM PDT

        •  Don't forget

          today's workers support today's retirees. With an imminent projected increase in retirees but only a few workers entering the work force, increased immigration  may be useful. The trick will be in deciding what level of skills new immigrants should have and where they should have priority in our community.

          What would you suggest?

          by Serendipity on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 09:09:55 PM PDT

          •  It's a Very Tough Call....

            ....but I'm off the mind that we can't even begin having this discussion unless we seal the borders.  Right away, that puts me at odds with a very large percentage of this community.

            But assuming we are able to seal the border with either a real or mechanical fence, it will be very hard to balance the interests of our economy with the influx of immigrants allowed to enter legally.  Theoretically, a precise distribution of immigration visas could allocate a useful quotient of laborers to every sector of the economy while avoiding endemic suppression of working-class wage levels.  But this would be all but impossible to pull off given the disparity of the lobbying forces each industry has.  Certainly, construction and agribusiness would be in a breathless fury if their pipeline of impoverished immigrant labor slowed to a trickle...and the misinformation campaign they unleashed on lawmakers and the public would convince them of the need to keep the cheap labor trough full for the barons.

            It would ultimately be a learning curve and require a few years before the process ran as effectively as we'd like, but as I see every working-class person I know undermined by low-wage labor from south of the border, I am certain that the status quo is unacceptable...and several of the provisions of McCain-Kennedy would likely make the situation worse.

            by Mark27 on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 09:23:47 PM PDT

      •  Yes, the Trilateral Commission and the Council

        on Foreign Relations want to do away with he borders both north and south. The new world order starring the North American Union.

        So, steviemo, it looks like you might support them whereas Dobbs doesn't for which I'll be for ever thankful.

        by 0hio on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 11:18:37 PM PDT

    •  people wouldn't come into this country illegally

      if they could find employers willing to break the law and hire them.

      That's all of it, in a nutshell. All the rest is so much bullshit. 'Open borders', bullshit.

      It's the people that know they are breaking State and Federal laws by paying people $2/hr that are the root cause of the problem.

      End of discussion.

      by shpilk on Sat Mar 03, 2007 at 12:19:43 AM PDT

•  He Belongs on FOX Noise Channel . . . . n/t

  by steviemo on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:00:11 PM PDT

•  A Suitable Replacement for Lou's Time Slot...

  Brian Unger.  I really liked him as Countdown guest host.  From Wikipedia

  Brian Unger is an American comedian, writer, producer, and commentator. He was an original contributor to The Daily Show, from 1996 to 1998. Currently, he provides regular commentary for the NPR show Day to Day and guest hosts MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann.

  Unger is a native of Granville, Ohio. He graduated from Ohio University in 1987, where he majored in communication. While working for The Daily Show in 1998, he was named one of Entertainment Weekly's "100 Most Creative People in Entertainment."

  Unger's other television appearances include the Comedy Central shows Reno 911! and The Man Show, various I Love the... shows on VH1, as well as appearances on ABC's Jimmy Kimmel Live, NBC's Later, E!'s Talk Soup, and the syndicated entertainment newsmagazine Extra.

  His written commentary has appeared in The New York Times and The Washington Post.

  by steviemo on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:09:59 PM PDT

•  Interestingly.....

  ....Dobbs has probably done more to lure disaffected Reagan Democrats back to the Democratic Party in the recent years than Keith Olbermann, Al Franken, and Michael Moore combined.  If the Democrats want to squander the Dobbsites and send them racing back to the GOP, then they'll be sure to defund the border fence and rubber stamp Bush's apartheid-esque guest worker program.

  by Mark27 on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:24:35 PM PDT

  •  Yeah - That is Odd

    But I dunno. I just don't see too many of those racist types voting for libruls. And I don't think they watch CNN. But who knows?

    by steviemo on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:32:17 PM PDT

    •  They Don't Vote For "Libruls" Per Se.....

      ...they vote for Jim Webb and Heath Shuler.  I certainly think most dyed-in-the-wool liberals would believe the movement is better off with Jim Webb and Heath Shuler than George Allen and Charles Taylor.  Snubbing the concerns of the Lou Dobbs' crowd will likely reverse the trend and give the GOP the majority again.

      by Mark27 on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:37:38 PM PDT

      •  I think...

        this  person speaks for me better than I can regarding your attitude in the matter of Immigration.

        The end justifies the means is a chewy chunk of degradation that is left better alone.

        Don't let your fear guide your path.

        by peelinglayers on Fri Mar 09, 2007 at 02:41:54 AM PDT

  •  The problem is...

    ....the mouth-breathers would rather focus on the racial aspects of illegal immigration. They don't want to see a "brown menace" of Mexicans coming to America and "polluting" the culture or some nonsense like that. I'm just opposed to a bunch of desperate people being exploited to undermine unions and drive down wages. What we really need to do is re-direct the anti-illegal immigration people's rage from the immigrants themselves and to the greedy corporations that encourage illegal immigration. And then fine the hell out of those corporations.

    by metal prophet on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:44:59 PM PDT

    •  Probably True.....

      .....but I don't think Dobbs come at immigration from that angle....at least not that I've seen.  

      The employers who hire illegal immigrants have avoidance from accountability down to science.  Given the fallout from the Swift meatpacking raids last December, from which those who hired the illegal workers faced no penalties at all, I can't imagine a scenario where stricter enforcement against employers comes to fruition.

      by Mark27 on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:56:43 PM PDT

  •  Racist??

    Losing your job to someone making 2$ an hour isn't racist. It's the truth. If it was up to Bush and his friends at the Chamber of Commerce they would fire all Americans and replace them with guest workers.  

    We get tired of them we send them all home.

    I'm sorry I am a dem that agrees with Lou and if Ted from the Bay State gets his Chamber of Commerce bill through Congress the Dems are through.

    We are suckers for exactly what the Presnit want's and his own party wont pass. Wonder why they wont pass it???

    by jkb246 on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:46:04 PM PDT

  •  Reagan Democrats? I call them Republicans

    However, Lou Dobbs caters to the Minutemen supporters, which are neo-nazis and other individuals with a hate mentality, so I don't want them to have a place in either party.  Would you welcome the KKK to the Democratic party just to get a few more votes?

    by theboz on Sat Mar 03, 2007 at 05:42:55 AM PDT