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The roots of Bush-Cheney's New World Order

Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 01:46:39 AM PDT

Much attention has been devoted to Dick Cheney's role in supporting the "unitary executive" doctrine, and his assault on the Constitutional balance of powers. Much has also been made of the role of the "Neo-con cabal" of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and others, including one of their most prominent think-tanks, the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). But wait! There's more!

What's less well known is the association of this bunch with the elite "Bilderberger Group."

Wikipedia provides this description today:

The Bilderberg Group or Bilderberg conference is an unofficial annual invitation-only conference of around 130 guests, most of whom are persons of influence in the fields of business, media, and politics.

Due to discussions by public officials and powerful business leaders (and others) being off the record, these annual meetings are the subject of much criticism (for circumventing the democratic process of discussing issues openly and publicly) and numerous conspiracy theories.

The elite group meets annually at exclusive, four or five-star resorts throughout the world, normally in Europe, once every four years in the United States or Canada. It has an office in Leiden, South Holland, Netherlands.

The Declared Purpose:

The original intention of the Bilderberg Group was to further the understanding between Western Europe and North America through informal meetings between powerful individuals. Each year, a "steering committee" devises a selected invitation list with a maximum of 100 names. Invitations are only extended to residents of Europe and North America. The location of their annual meeting is not secret, but the public and press are strictly kept at distance by police force and private security guards. Although the agenda and list of participants are openly available to the public meanwhile - mainly in the internet and posted there by outsiders - whose sources and reliability are not known — it is not clear that such details are disclosed by the group itself. Also the contents of the meetings are kept secret and attendees pledge not to divulge what was discussed.

The group's stated justification for secrecy is that it enables people to speak freely without the need to carefully consider how every word might be interpreted by the mass media. However, it could easily be argued that the elite and secretive nature of the meeting antithetical to the democratic ideals of public debate.

According to another source,

The group has been depicted as an international cabal of the influential and the affluent: politicians, financiers, and media and business moguls; the elite of the elite. Some believe that they have dictated national policies, rigged (or outright stolen) national elections, caused wars, recessions, and ordered murders and ousters of world leaders such as American president John F. Kennedy and British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. . . .
The official stance of the Bilderberg Group is that their secrecy prevents these individuals' discussions from being manipulated by the media. However, social class-related exclusivity is considered by many to be the primary motive. Security is managed by military intelligence.

A detailed source on each annual meeting is here.

According to Uri Dowbenko,

1998 Bilderberg Group attendees included the usual Globalist Good Ole Boys, regulars like David Rockefeller, Chairman of Chase Manhattan Bank; and Henry Kissinger, former U.S. Secretary of State and current Chairman of Kissinger Associates, Inc., a schmooze-for-hire firm that sells high-level introductions to world-class tyrants, arms dealers and their ilk.

Dowbenko quoted from Peter Thompson's essay, "Bilderberg and the West," published in the book "Trilateralism" (edited by Holly Sklar, South End Press, Boston). Thompson wrote,

Bilderberg is not the only means of Western collective management of the world order, it is part of an increasingly dense system of transnational management. . . Where necessary, a consensus is engineered on issues which must get congressional/parliamentary approval, but wherever possible executive agreements between governments are used to avoid the democratic process altogether.

. . .bodies like the U.S. Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the British Royal Institute for International Affairs, commonly known as ’Chatham House, and transnational counterparts like Bilderberg and the Trilateral Commission play a crucial role in formulating policy directions, molding establishment consensus and even testing for likely opposition.

Dowbenko continued,

Since its founding, the Bilderberg Group has functioned as a defacto private Global Politburo with 120 attendees at recent yearly meetings.

The New World Order? In any case, this group's love of Democracy seems in doubt.

Who might these folks be? According to Wikipedia, "Donald Rumsfeld is an active Bilderberger," and "Former U.S. Deputy Defense Secretary and current World Bank head Paul Wolfowitz is also a member..." Others listed include

  1. Henry Kissinger (2004[5],2005,2006), Secretary of State, 1973 - 1977
  2. Richard Perle (2003), assistant Secretary of Defense, 1981 - 1987

But that's not all. Look who else: According to Dowbenko,

Historically, the Group’s power is awesome. Bill Clinton, an obscure Arkansas governor, was tapped to run for president. Likewise, Margaret Thatcher as well as Tony Blair were tapped by the Bilderbergers to assume the reins of government in the United Kingdom.

Bill Clinton, (1991)[3], US President, was a member from 1993 - 2001 according to the Wikipedia.

Hmmm. Lookee here:

After Clinton was invited to a 1991 meeting of the Bilderberg Group in Baden-Baden, Germany, he became a front-running candidate for President in 1992. Then, despite --- or maybe because of -- his well-known sexual/drug addictions and compromised background, Clinton was selected as the Group’s choice for U.S. President.

Does the stance Clinton's DLC takes on international issues, and Bill's coziness with Poppy Bush suddenly start to make more sense?

Dowbenko also added

Congressman Gerald Ford --- later U.S. president --- also attended Group meetings in 1964 and 1966.

It should be noted, however, that Ford is not mentioned in Wikipedia's not-entirely-complete list of attendees, nor on the most complete list of attendees I know of.

Let's try to connect the dots a little bit here.

  1. Henry Kissinger, Secretary of State under Richard Nixon, was a long-standing Bilderberger. Nixon, of course, was the first 'modern' president who sought to greatly expand presidential powers to imperial proportions, and was forced to resign due to over-reach. And guess who still has frequent access to the White House, in recent years, as well as years gone by? (H/t to Bob Woodward's book, 'State of Denial'). Here's what good ol' Henry the K said at the Bilderberger meeting in 1991:

"Today, America would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all people of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the world government." - Henry Kissinger (Bilderburg Conference 1991 Evians, France)

That worked pretty well after 9/11, didn't it?

  1. Gerald Ford attended the Group's meetings in 1964 & 1966, according to Dowbenko-- before Ford became President. One of Ford's protegés, Donald Rumsfeld became an important member. A Rumsfeld protegé, Paul Wolfowitz, also gets invited, and is now president of the World Bank.  
  1. Is it enough to know that the Cheney-Rumsfeld government-within-the-government was run by Bilderbergers, and that Cheney himself, if not a Bilderberger, seems like-minded?

But wait! There's more!
David Rockefeller was an original U.S. founding member, life member, and member of the Steering Committee (1954-).

Bilderberger proceedings are supposed to be secret. But one short statement by Rockefeller is all over the Internet:

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the NY Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings, and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years. It would have been impossible for us to develop OUR PLAN for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a World Government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual ELITE and World Bankers is surely preferable to the national auto - determination practiced in past centuries." - David Rockefeller  CFR Kingpin, Founder of the Trilateral Commission, NOW Godfather / June 1991

The same web page quotes David Rockefeller again with this:

"We are on the verge of a Global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller

So much, I guess, for good ol' democracy.

Oh, and what about Jay Rockefeller, "the only Democrat in what has been traditionally a staunchly Republican dynasty"? Isn't he chairman of the Select Committee on Intelligence? What does he think of Uncle David, the only surviving brother of Jay's father's generation?

I think someone ought to ask him. He is in a very critical position, and we need him to do his sworn duty and defend the Constitution.

Bob in HI

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  •  I have some real doubts about your sources. (3+ / 0-)

    -- his well-known sexual/drug addictions and compromised background, Clinton was selected as the Group’s choice for U.S. President.

    I do believe this is the first I've heard of
    Clinton being a "drug addict".

    CHRISTIAN, n. One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor. A. Bierce

    by irate on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 02:11:13 AM PDT

    •  If it's on the internet... (2+ / 0-)

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      Caldonia, irate

      ... it must be true.


      Blind faith in your leaders, or in anything, will get you killed. -- Bruce Springsteen

      by Plutonium Page on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 02:35:34 AM PDT

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    •  Sources (2+ / 0-)

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      irate, peaceloveandkucinich

      Yes, some of the sources are a bit loopy. But when you want details on something like the Bilderberg Group, you either have to rely on the crazies who are the biggest fans and are really motivated to compile every scrap of info on their fave Group, or you have to rely on investigative reporters, who can be just as fanatical on the other end, and who may be few in number, and with incomplete information.

      All membership lists are unofficial, so important facts need confirmation, such as

      *Was Gerald Ford an invited member, or not?
      *Is Hilary Clinton now a member, as one website claims?
      *Was Dick Cheney ever a member?

      There are degrees of involvement, as well. Most peripheral apparently are the "guests". John Edwards was a "guest" in 2004. Then, those who received invitations by the "steering committee," which obviously is the elite within the elite. Then there are "advisors," who rank high because David Rockefeller has been one in recent decades. Maybe "advisors" are those whose opinion matters, but who aren't necessarily up to traveling to the meeting every year to attend.

      Further investigative reporting is needed, especially in view of the secrecy of their deliberations. But clearly, these people are elitists.

      Bob in HI

    •  Sources (2+ / 0-)

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      irate, peaceloveandkucinich

      Yes, some of the sources are extreme. For example, the motivated fans of this group are mostly Republicans or Neo-cons, or other right-wing crazies, and we know what they think of Clinton. But they're the ones who have taken the time to compile the information.

      Membership data is 100% unofficial, so my sources are in conflict, e.g., concerning whether or not Gerald Ford was a member, as I made clear. More investigative work is needed, including questions such as:

      *Was Cheney ever a member?
      *Is Hilary Clinton now a member, as one website now alleges?

      Check out the links. Its interesting stuff.

      Bob in HI

  •  Bilderberg is (1+ / 0-)

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    serrano

    like any group where elites from the political and business world come together to discuss policy.  It's just that, discussing policy, not a conspiracy.  Attendance at a Bilderberg meeting doesn't prove much of anything, least not that a person is an agent of the alleged conspiracy.  Like other such groups Bilderberg needs closely watched but there is a lot of conspiracy theorist bilge floating around about that group that makes little sense.  The conspiracy mindset can just as easily serve progressive or conservative interests depending on who is in power, it's mostly a matter of their always being opposed to whatever party has the reins of government because they are all part of the "conspiracy".  With Bush in power it sounds progressive to chase conspiracies but when Dems are in power these same conspiracy theories work against us and serve the right.  During the 1990s the conspiracy theorists were using Clinton's attendance at Bilderberg to attack him.  They'll do the same with Edwards having attended.

    •  It's just that, discussing policy (0+ / 0-)

      except that it is behind closed doors and does seems to be setting policy against the will of a lot of "we, the people."
         Even the Board of Trustees of our town's little tiny library here legally must keep their meetings open to the public, according to the laws of the state. They aren't even supposed to discuss business at all outside of their approved forum. NOT even e-mail chat outside of the official e-mail list. Seems to me it was bad enough for people in the whitehouse to be using the RNC e-mail, nevermind having a bunch of "interested" but unelected strangers talking about our future in an organized, secret forum. What right do these people have to make "choices" that they have the power to carry forward? We the people are the 'stockholders' here, right?

      I like to play monopoly with kids for a while, and then start asking them questions about hegemony and how it would work at the gameboard... Next,
      The Grand Chessboard.  
      ps: thanks Bobschacht. This is important, and hard to get out there to the 'reasonable' public.

      •  I don't disagree with you (0+ / 0-)

        that these groups including Bilderberg should not be meeting and discussing and setting policy behind closed doors, without public oversight.  But they aren't a "conspiracy".  Thinking of world events in terms of a global conspiracy has been problematic for progressive Democrats in the past.  I personally saw how this worked in the 1992 elections and got caught up in that thinking myself, back when Bush 41 was the target, only to see the same conspiracy theories turned against Democrats as soon as Clinton got into office.  

  •  With respect to Jay Rockefeller (2+ / 0-)

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    Owllwoman, peaceloveandkucinich

    and for what it's worth in this discussion, he was one of a handful of Democrats in the senate to vote for "The Torture Bill".

    "Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control people..." Henry Kissinger

    by truong son traveler on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 04:01:24 AM PDT

  •  True or not (0+ / 0-)

    It seems that government can no longer be discussed outside of the context of the economy and without the discussion being led by big business leaders.

    Are union leaders being invited? Who the hell is representing the workers?

  •  You forgot the human sacrifices (0+ / 0-)

    Isn't that how Bilderberg ends every year? I read it on the web.

    <snark>

  •  I think you're thinking way too hard about it. (0+ / 0-)

    The roots of the Bush-Cheney New World Order are that they, that is Bush, Cheney and those who support them, get to do whatever they want, spy on whoever they want, write the laws however they want, hire and fire whoever they want, use all the resources they want and start wars to kill anyone who doesn't let them do any of this, all so that they can make tremendous amounts of money and feel like they deserve it. Maybe the group and the things they say there are symptoms, but I think the roots are in simple tribalism.

    The above comment is probably disrespectful of John McCain's military service somehow.

    by RickMassimo on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 07:08:35 AM PDT

  •  If you're anx to shut them down (0+ / 0-)

    do like the Filipinos did: instead of protesting, surround them and squeeze them out. Like it or not they are human. Except of course their anti-Christ leader.

    Then again- conspiracy theory gets boring pretty fast.

    Mandatory military service for EVERYONE; you, your wife, your daughter in college and your stockbroker. Yes, you CAN.

    by glbTVET on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 07:16:05 AM PDT

  •  Dates back to 1898 (0+ / 0-)

    Spanish-American War, dawn of American Imperialism.

    Best Diary of the Year? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/23/03912/3990

    by LNK on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 08:58:18 AM PDT

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