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Updated Title: Saturday Morning USA Scandal News - Rove and Immigration Judge Edition

Sat May 26, 2007 at 07:59:16 AM PDT

Good morning, campers.  I saw this story last evening on TPMuckraker and wanted to bring it to folks' attention but I'd already diaried and that diary had already sunsetted...sunk below the horizon line of purview.

TPMuckraker Article

I don't know about you, gentle reader, but I've become a scandal junkie. I hunger for scraps and pieces of news and evidence because I consider the path through oversight to be the quickest and most expedient path toward ridding ourselves of the metastatic criminality that has spread through every aspect of the federal government.  One of the people who planned for years to birth and spread this rot is Karl Rove.  The problem is, he has been like Fog Man...there's been so much deceit, such profound smoke that it's been difficult to find anything to hold onto.  Finally, an email has been uncovered that may be cause to expand the enquiry into his direct role.  

More over the orange rapids...

The email is from Tim Griffin, one of Rove's former aids and a pernicious political operative with close ties to Monica Goodling.  Griffin is best know for contratemps with voter suppression and caging issues in Arkansas.  (Exactly the kinda guy one would expect Rove to want as a replacement for Bud Cummins, a highly respected and effective USA.)  In the e-mail, Griffin discusses his appointment (using the now notorious Patriot Act provision which allowed replacement without Senatorial confirmation). Griffin also discusses his dealings with Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR)  The e-mail (bates stamp 0AG000001733) was part of Monica Goodling's May 22, 2007, document dump, found here, toward the very end:

Goodling's Documents

Here's an excerpt from Paul Kiel's article which discusses the e-mail at length:

Responding to the email, Michael Teague, spokesman for Sen. Pryor, wondered how many other contacts Griffin had with Rove. "This is just an email. Was he calling him every day?"

In fact, the email was only produced by the Justice Department because Oprison of the White House counsel's office had forwarded it on to Monica Goodling at the Justice Department, who forwarded it to Kyle Sampson the same morning. Despite requests from Congress, the White House has not produced any emails related to the firings.

Sampson's and Oprison's appearance in the email raises an additional question.

On February 24th, just eight days after the email, the Justice Department wrote in a letter to Congress that the department wasn't aware of Karl Rove playing "any role" in the decision to appoint Griffin. The letter was drafted by Sampson and signed off on by Oprison of the White House.

According to Kiel's article, David Iglesias, one of the few and the proud who was also fired for refusing to obey Bushist pressures to pursue spurious voter fraud claims, has found this link to be highly inappropriate.

So, fellow scandal junkies, while not necessarily substantive red meat in itself, this e-mail is the first evidence showing that Rove was in the loop at least with one of the new Bushist replacement USAs and Rove.  Here's hoping that this will be a small piece of evidence that is large enough to pry open the bunker doors of the WH RICO conspiracy.  Feel free to discuss and to use this diary to discuss and/or analyze other material from the May 22, 2007 doc dump, or any other aspect of this case, should you be inclined.

UPDATE: The immigration judge practices are beginning to cause their own stink.  The LA Times has a story regarding the lack of any conceivable reason for the appointments other than being a loyal Bushist operative.  While this should probably be part of another diary, or perhaps I should revamp the title of this one, I didn't want the story to go unnoticed during weekend festivities and observances.

The new jurists include a former treasurer of the Louisiana Republican Party, who was a legal advisor to the Bush Florida recount team after the 2000 presidential election. There is also a former GOP congressional aide who had tracked voter fraud issues for the Justice Department, and a Texan appointed by then-Gov. George W. Bush to a seat on the state library commission.

One thing missing on many of their resumes: a background in immigration law.

These lawyers are among a growing number of the nation's more than 200 immigration judges who have little or no experience in the law they were appointed to enforce.

LA Time:  New Immigration Judges Lack Immigration Experience

Tags: Karl Rove, Timothy Griffin, Monica Goodling, Alberto Gonzales, U.S. attorneys, House Judiciary Committee, Christopher Oprison (all tags) :: Previous Tag Versions

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  •  Not much red meat... (8+ / 0-)

    but enough to keep a scandal junkie going through the long weekend.  

    This does however provide the first hard link to Rove and his minion...and may just be enough to be the first step toward exploding the foul murk surrounding his role with DOJ.

    "We're all working for the Pharaoh" - Richard Thompson

    by mayan on Sat May 26, 2007 at 07:49:23 AM PDT

    •  What is the Status (2+ / 0-)

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      mayan, MichiganGirl

      of Senate confirmation of these characters, now that they have amended those provisions of the Patriot Act?????

      •  No friggin' clue here... (2+ / 0-)

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        serrano, MichiganGirl

        Was the "fix" retroactive or were the yeggs grandfathered in?

        "We're all working for the Pharaoh" - Richard Thompson

        by mayan on Sat May 26, 2007 at 08:07:10 AM PDT

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        •  That's What I'm Wondering!!! (2+ / 0-)

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          I sure hope they have to go back and face the music!!!  Could be entertaining, since none of them can carry a tune, and they dance like bad neocon White people!!!

          •  SOP in hiring is that the terms you were hired (2+ / 0-)

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            mayan, MichiganGirl

            under are the terms you can be fired under.

            If and this is a major if, IF the standard holds true, then since there was no Senate confirmation, there can be no impeachment. Clinton fired a couple of USAs, at least one 'for cause' (physical violence), and I think that is the way Griffen would have to be treated.  One would have to find cause in order to get him fired. Example: get him convicted of a felony (such as caging).  I don't know what the time limitation on caging charges are, maybe only the 2006 election would apply. It should be noted that the entire Republican Party is under a cease and desist order dating from 1986 regarding caging, so that may be an avenue to explore.

            Take this post with a major grain of salt because the regular hiring practices for this USA were voided and the rules seem be being made up as the Bush folk go along. In light of his words with Pryor, Griffen does not seem like a man likely to resign, unless a major kleig light is shown upon his work.  

            Remember how Griffen said he was not going to put his name before the Senate, and most people backed off, thinking that he meant that he meant that he was not putting his name forward period? He DID go forward with out nomination or confirmation, and he is still there AFTER the 120 day interim period that Abu talked about. Will Congress will have to query the DoJ Office of Profesional Management for a ruling on how to get rid of Griffen?

            "You don't make peace with friends. You make it with very unsavory enemies." -Yitzhak Rabin

            by sailmaker on Sat May 26, 2007 at 09:23:59 AM PDT

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  •  Questions Raised (3+ / 0-)

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    mayan, serrano, MichiganGirl

    And the answer will be!

    "I Don't Recall" "I Don't Recall" "I Don't Recall"

    Shampoo, rinse and repeat!

    If America were to die and an autopsy was to be performed the media would be the cause of death.

    by dynamicstand on Sat May 26, 2007 at 07:54:21 AM PDT

    •  Perhaps... (3+ / 0-)

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      But I reject the concept of Rovian invincibility and believe that the oversight committees have decided to target Rove.  This is the first arrow in the quiver that falls directly in his lap.  

      The more hard evidence, the less they will be able to resist document production through counsel or via Court order.

      From tiny acorns, might oak trees...the better to hang 'em...grow.  Keep the faith, there's precious little of it to go around.

      "We're all working for the Pharaoh" - Richard Thompson

      by mayan on Sat May 26, 2007 at 08:00:34 AM PDT

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  •  Was wondering when this email would get noticed. (2+ / 0-)

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  •  And the WH wants us to believe only email? (4+ / 0-)

    "Cage" Griffin has Rove's email address and uses it to inform Rove that the Little Rock newspaper has caught a whiff of fetid political patronage. Why must Rove he informed? Is it because "Cage" fears that the fix on his appointment will lead back to Rove and he wants Rove to produce some extra fog to protect both he and Karl?

    Why else? And if this little tidbit out of Arkansas is so important that Rove must be informed it is only logical to assume that other emails exist both before the appointment and after between the two.

    Remember that earlier this week it became known that Gonzales backdated "Cage's" appointment. The White House is sitting on a mind field of material that ties Rove to this appointment and likely to some or all of the other dismissals and appointments of the US attorneys. Yet the media is screaming. It is a juicy story and the media isn't screaming. The 4th estate has foundational rot equal to an abandoned antebellum mansion.
     

    Roman Catholic by birth---thoroughly confused by life.

    by alasmoses on Sat May 26, 2007 at 08:13:22 AM PDT

    •  Good call on the backdating aspect. (3+ / 0-)

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      mayan, MichiganGirl, alasmoses

      I had forgotten about this. i knew when I saw this email-something smelled rotten-now you're right. It's rotten.

    •  Great call on the backdating... (2+ / 0-)

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      In order to go forward with someone as congenitally slippery as Rove, you need the hard evidence.  This e-mail is the first piece of the puzzle that connects Rove to the purge...apart from his visit to prepare Gozno's underlings to testify in a manner that would protect the Reich.

      But this knotted skein, composed of fog, aethers, and vapors, is untangeling...thread by slimey thread.  A picture is beginning to emerge that will be difficult to ignore.  My sense is that the Congressionals are leading up to an early summer Gotterdamerung with the no-confidence vote and that there will be revelaions and "leaks" aplenty over the next three weeks.  At least, I hope...

      "We're all working for the Pharaoh" - Richard Thompson

      by mayan on Sat May 26, 2007 at 10:25:12 AM PDT

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  •  I'm still catching up (5+ / 0-)

    from having missed Goodling's testimony. The Denver Post editorial staff had this to say about part of her testimony regarding Griffin.

    In an interesting moment in her testimony, Goodling said she heard about the potential firings in 2005 from Tim Griffin, who was then an aide to White House political adviser Karl Rove. She said Griffin told her he might get the chance to go home to Arkansas because some U.S. attorneys might be replaced. If the prosecutor who held the job in Little Rock, Bud Cummins, was one of them, perhaps Griffin would get that job. As it turns out, he did.

    Her account raises an important question: How could the White House aide have known that at that early date?

    It's a question that clearly leads to the White House and to Rove and former White House counsel Harriet Miers. It's high time they testified before Congress - under oath and on the record - about their roles in this festering scandal.

    Denver Post

    From the testimony transcript:

    REP. SMITH: And did you talk to anybody at the White House about the need to replace U.S. attorneys?

    MS. GOODLING: About the need to replace U.S. attorneys? I don't believe I recall any conversations. But to be complete I should inform the committee that there was, I believe -- in 2005 I had a social call at some point with Tim Griffin, who indicated to me, and he was working at the White House at the time, that he may have the opportunity to go back to Arkansas because some U.S. attorneys may be replaced, and if Mr. Cummins was one of them, he might get a chance to go home....

    And from her opening remarks:

    I first learned that others more senior to me were discussing the possibility of replacing some U.S. attorneys at some point in mid-2005, and I believe I first saw a list of candidates for replacement in January 2006, when Mr. Sampson showed me a draft memorandum he was preparing for Harriet Miers.

    Transcript at the NY Times.

  •  Griffin making future plans? (1+ / 0-)

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    mayan

    I found this tidbit in the Wall Street Journal Online:

    Backers look for Fred Thompson to use a June 2 speech to Virginia Republicans to step closer toward the race. Thompson allies have had discussions with Tim Griffin, the Arkansas U.S. attorney and Rove protégé, about taking a top job with the campaign.

    wsj.com

  •  I'm interested... (2+ / 0-)

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    in peoples' ideas as to how to handle the problem of criminally investigating a thoroughly corrupted and criminally involved Department of Justice.

    If there is no Independent Counsel statute...and the entire upper echelon (and quite many of the lower echelon) are either involved or conflicted...where does Congress go in terms of the investigation?

    Does it stay in Congress and get fought in the court of public opinion?  Do they legislate a position to investigate?  Do they seek someone within DOJ, like Fitzgerald, who will be given independent status?  Lots of questions...and I just don't know enough about this level of the law or Congressional procedure to get a fix on it.

    Any legal eagles out there with some thoughts regarding the strategy?  I've seen much about how hard it will be for Congress to proceed but I can't believe that's how Congress is seeing it.  So...where do we go?  It seems like there's more than enough evidence to show that there is a substantial likelihood that a variety of felonies and ethical violations have been violated.  

    "We're all working for the Pharaoh" - Richard Thompson

    by mayan on Sat May 26, 2007 at 08:33:35 AM PDT

  •  Am I wrong on this? (2+ / 0-)

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    peace voter, mayan

    Where these emails of Griffin's sent WHILE he was a US Attorney?

    If he was a US Attorney during this time-frame, why is his email address redacted on every email?

    Could it be because he was using his old RNC email account for official business WHILE he was a sitting US Attorney? If that is the case, are there penalties for this behavior?

    I just can't see any other reason why his email address would be blacked out on every email provided.  

    "It is through disobedience that progress has been made, through disobedience and through rebellion." Oscar Wilde, 1891

    by MichiganGirl on Sat May 26, 2007 at 08:52:55 AM PDT

  •  The great thing about this administration (2+ / 0-)

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    is that, if you're a scandal junkie (me, TOO), you never have to wait long to get your next fix.

  •  RICO charges should be levied against the RNC (2+ / 0-)

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    lurks a lot, MichiganGirl

    Under RICO..a criminal conspiracy is a predicate act to filing RICO charges against bad actors..the RNC is the quickest way to get to Rove, BUSH and CHENEY and ultimately Alberto Gonzales...The caging issue was a matter of a court order from 1987...the RNC violated a court order...caging is illegal..

    The RNC and the White House are engaged in a pattern of criminal behavior...Extortion, blackmail, murder, mass murder, war crimes, torture, kidnapping, false imprisonment, rape, embezzlement, theft of the funds in Iraq..etc. etc. etc...

    While there may not be Federal charges of a RICO conspiracy levied against the White House and the RNC any time soon...the states do have similar RICO type of laws at the state level that can be applied especially in those states where the RNC and White House were involved in voter caging...

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