Daily Kos

Mohammad in Gaza

Sat May 26, 2007 at 05:32:55 AM PDT

Mohammad Omer, international independent reporter and correspondent for the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, spoke from Gaza with Arab Talk Radio in San Francisco as events unfolded in the Gaza Strip on May 25, 2007:

"I don't know who are these militants. I'm not sure if they are Hamas. I'm not sure if they are Fatah. Because who would shoot Palestinians?...I think that those people are not Hamas and they are not Fatah then they are working for whom? The question remains, for who are those people working and whose benefit from killing Palestinians and targeting civilians in the Gaza Strip?"

"At this moment, right now, the Israeli helicopters, F16s helicopters, hovering over the ...different offices of government ministry...a number of missiles from the Israeli war planes hit one of the places at the "X" settlement in the Gaza Strip. One in the north of Gaza Strip and one in the south...ambulances are moving to the hospitals at the moment and they are carrying some of the people who were injured. The attack has been going on in very difficult circumstances where the Israeli helicopters hovering from one time to another and launching rockets. This is for the second time today...the Ministry of the Interior was attacked ten minutes before 4 o'clock and again ten minutes ago it was also attacked once more by the Israeli helicopters leaving from the people injured. The first attack six people were injured, some of them in critical situations. The helicopters are hovering at the moment while I'm speaking to you on the phone and it is getting even worse and it makes people worry... house of parliament member-few days ago was bombed by the Israeli helicopters leaving seven family members of his injured. The situations are very difficult and there is obvious escalation from the Israeli side and if this continues then the situation are getting to be even worse with the fact that the Gaza Strip is totally closed at the moment and it's not possible for anyone to get in or out of the Gaza Strip.

"...The conditions are very dire situations here...factional fighting between Hamas and Fatah ...the question remains is Israel going to continue its attacks targeting militants and targeting civilians even in their houses and different places. In the northern part of Gaza Strip numbers of tanks are patrolling all over the borderline. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem that the situations are going to be easy in the coming days because the numbers of the attacks and bulldozers patrolling on the edge of Gaza Strip are quite a lot. The Israeli helicopters keep hovering from time to time up to the moment as I speak. The situations are not really good here and it's even getting worse by the fact that people have not received this salary for many months now and they are in a very edge of poverty. That's why most of the people are suffering and they can not find their food. This is not the part of a humanitarian crisis, but this poverty that targets all Palestinians living in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.

"...the intent to send International Forces should have done it from the back, but I'm not sure if this is a very serious issue and I'm not sure if they mean to protect the Palestinians. If they mean to protect the Palestinians, then the easiest way is to tell the Israelis to crack down on Israel and to stop attacking civilians. This is the easiest way to do it. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem that they are really interested making the situation calm...they are interested in making the situation worse and worse in the Gaza Strip. Unfortunately, this is just getting to be old rumors that there might be some international forces coming or these keepers coming to the area. I doubt this is going to happen and lots of people doubt if it's going to happen because what is the trouble of these keepers? Is it going to be as observers of the European Union, just patrolling and doing what they have been told to do by Israel? Then I think there is no point of sending them to Gaza...one of the things that the one who's behind all this fighting has some hidden agendas. No doubt they should say that. It should be clear that having Palestinian factions being engaged in a civil war or civil fighting [relives] Israel from any pressure to reduce its checkpoints and its responsibility negotiating for even a Palestinian State under the Arab League. I hear this plan which increases the number of settlements and the settlers in East Jerusalem. Land confiscation and targeting civilians and...in addition to that, to make the Palestinians, people of one skin, fight each other and kill each other in the Gaza Strip.

"... who started it in the first place? Of course, some people are employed to do this job and they are just shooting at Hamas and shooting at Fatah and everyone will think that the one who is shooting is the other party and then they will start fighting and fighting and it will continue on and on by targeting more and more civilians and by killing more and more. I have been in very difficult situations and I came from a very horrible experience myself by militants who tried to shoot me while I was working in the streets of Gaza Strip. It was one of the most tragic experiences I have ever had in my life and I was almost killed by militants. I don't know what the identity of those militants is. All I know is that they are young people who stopped me in the streets and then they ask me, "Stop here." Then I stop. And then they say, "Raise your hands. Come closer." Then I raised my hands. "Come closer. Turn your back." I turned then they started to shout at me, "Come closer, slowly." And then, suddenly I found two bullets hitting under my feet. One of the militants shot two bullets under my feet who was a marksman. I came up to his face, but I could see he's not older than me. I would say he's in the early 20's...from his voice and his body builds. I should say that when I asked him why should they stop me and then they were asking themselves, "Let's shoot him in the head." And then the other one says, "No, no, no. Let's shoot him in his legs." And then the other guy said, "Well, let's shoot him in the head," again. The three of them said that we want to shoot them in the head and the other one said we want to shoot him in the leg. Then I said, "Do you know who I am? Why do you intend to shoot me? Do you know who I am? I have done nothing to you so you can't decide on that."

"I had just gone to Gaza City and couldn't find any taxi in the street because it was very difficult to move in and out. Then when I asked them why you want to shoot me and then they just say, "Shut up!" Then I said, "Okay." Then I said, "Do you know who I am, so you can decide?" They said, "Even if you are the son of God we will shoot you!"

"Then he said bring me your ID. I give him my ID. I give him my press card and then he understands that I'm a journalist. He said, "You are a journalist?" I said, "Yes." He said, "Okay, I don't want to see your face here again. Go away from here."

"...I'm under the impression that most of the time they will target people in their back. So they tell you go and then they shoot you in the back. That's why I didn't show them my back. I was working the way around to keep eye contact with them and to make sure that they won't shoot me all the way. I was walking all the way to find a taxi to Rafah camp where I live...I don't know who are these militants. I'm not sure if they are Hamas. I'm not sure if they are Fatah. Because who would shoot Palestinians? Because they find other young man walking by and shot him in the leg and they target other Palestinians also in different places...I talked to the head of operations and he said that the same group at the same junction tried to shoot at him while he was going to his car.

"...So, I think that those people are not Hamas and they are not Fatah then they are working for whom? The question remains, for who are those people working and whose benefit from killing Palestinians and targeting civilians in the Gaza Strip?"

Mohammad's site:
http://www.rahahtoday.org

Updated Reports:
http://rafah.virtualactivism.net/...

The thirty minute radio broadcast can be downloaded @
http://www.progressiveindependent.co...  
Thank you for making a donation at the same time to make it possible to continue .

This article made possible by the collaborative efforts of Tinore and Tlcandie @

http://www.progressiveindependent.com/

Tags: Israel, Palestine, Gaza, terrorism, Hamas, Fatah, settlements (all tags) :: Previous Tag Versions

Permalink | 69 comments

  •  So how does Mohammad explain (9+ / 0-)

    that Hamas and Fatah keep negotiating ceasefires with each other? Apparently they think they're the ones shooting at each other. It never ceases to amaze me how people will just regurgitate something they've read without thinking about it. This is as silly as the diary yesterday where someone just accepted as fact a BBC analysis that Israel was strengthening Hamas, despite all the evidence to the contrary. At some point the Palestinians and their supporters need to realize that responsibility and self-determination go hand-in-hand.

    McCain's 3AM ad is really a Flomax commercial.

    by jhecht on Sat May 26, 2007 at 05:50:46 AM PDT

  •  Mind the FAQ (8+ / 0-)

    The rule regarding conspiracy theory diaries is is "'Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence'."

    The more extreme the claim, the higher the burden of proof that commenters will demand. If you can't provide evidence to back up your claim, it is best not to post the diary. This guideline also applies to recommending extraordinary-claims diaries. If a diary makes an extreme claim with little or no evidence to back up that claim, it shouldn't be recommended, no matter what that claim is.

    Moreover, "[r]epeat offenders can and will be banned."

    I cite these portions of the FAQ because, essentially, this diary is retailing a conspiracy theory regarding the current fighting in Gaza: it's all being done by Israel and Israel's agents.

    Eileen, with all due respect, quoting one person's conspiratorial speculations is not evidence that the insinuated conspiracy exists.  "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Your diary presents an extraordinary claim but lacks anything approaching even the hinterlands of extraordinary evidence.

    Listen, for example, to the BBC, a rather more credible source than a sometime correspondent for the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, which is really a lobby and not a news agency, has to say:

    And now there is a power battle going on, which reaches up to the highest levels of Palestinian politics. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas (L) and Prime Minister Ismail Haniya
    Abbas and Haniya have announced several factional ceasefires. Fatah gunmen are loyal to the Palestinian President, Mahmoud Abbas; Hamas gunmen to the Palestinian Prime Minister, Ismail Haniya.

    This makes the situation sound clear-cut. But far from it. Mr Abbas and Mr Haniya have repeatedly announced ceasefires between their factions.

    Or, consider Hamas gunmen 'breach ceasefire':

    Hamas militants have fired on the home of a Palestinian police chief in Gaza despite a newly announced ceasefire, Palestinian security sources say. Gunfire was also exchanged at the home of a head of the governing Palestinian party, Fatah. Several people were hurt.

    The ceasefire had followed several days of fighting between Hamas and Fatah. More talks are expected on Wednesday. Tensions rose when Palestinian Authority forces moved in after Hamas launched rocket attacks on Israel. Fatah and Hamas leaders announced a truce after two people were killed and several more injured during gun battles between militants from both sides.

    Speaking at a late-night Gaza City news conference, the leaders agreed to withdraw all armed forces from the streets of northern Gaza. But within hours, Hamas gunmen refused to stop at a police roadblock in Gaza and then opened fire on the home of Palestinian police chief Rashid Abu Shbak, the Associated Press news agency reports. They then fired shots at the home of Abdullah Efrangi, the head of Fatah in Gaza, security sources said.

  •  Another American: conspiracy theory: NOT! (3+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    Krum, jdcondit, ocdiamond

    I am NOT into conspiracy theories AT ALL;

    BUT, I do see CONNECTIONS,

    And, I know EVERYTHING is interdependent and inter-related.

    Mohammed is a journalist reporting EYE WITNESS EXPERIENCE;

    how in the world can you construe an EYE WITNESS report into a 'conspiracy theory',

    unless of course you are paranoid and see conspiracies all around you?

    or is it because he reports what you rfefuse to see?

    You claim that the The Washington Report on ME Affairs is a "lobby" what PROOF have you got to back that up?

    •  mystery men = black helicopters on legs (6+ / 0-)

      And, I know EVERYTHING is interdependent and inter-related.

      You're pushing a conspiracy theory that the Hamas/Fatah conflict is actually being fought using mystery fighters pretending to be Hamas and Fatah. Your evidence? Something even the guy you quote admits is pure speculation.

      And you still advertise on and crosspost to what you know is a hate site. Have you noticed that you have not had a single defender on that issue from any part of the political spectrum? The only person on DKos who thinks that your affiliation with a hate site is a good thing ("grace") is you.

      In memory of Tom Disch.

      by zemblan on Sat May 26, 2007 at 06:38:45 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  mystery fighters!!! (0+ / 0-)

        r they aliens from another planet?

        actors from a parallel universe?

        r they French?

        this is truly fantastical!

        remarkable!

        bizarre!

        what spin! what a twist!

        it's a new high/low in I/P diaries on dKos!!!

        Even The Best Drummers Get Hungry

        by Keith Moon on Sat May 26, 2007 at 08:47:04 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  for the last time (1+ / 0-)

        Recommended by:
        ocdiamond

        I am receiving FREE advertisment from Peoples Voice, WHY NOT take advantage of that and the possibility to reach others with a different POV?

        I also am correspondent and PAYING for ad on

        http://www.opednews.com

        they publish 500 writers, I DO NOT represent them either!

        SOME of my articles:
        http://www.opednews.com/...  

        •  You forgot to say the anti-Semites are Grace. (0+ / 0-)

          How did I live without him?

          by Pumpkinlove on Sat May 26, 2007 at 12:45:33 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  real simple (1+ / 0-)

          Recommended by:
          Pumpkinlove

          WHY NOT take advantage of that and the possibility to reach others with a different POV?

          Please point me to a single post on that site in which you condemn the site's antisemitism. If you can't, then readers of that site have absolutely no reason to believe you don't agree with the site's essential antisemitic viewpoint.

          That is, you can't run the sorry, shaggy, threadbare excuse that you're posting there to show them the errors of their ways, if you never quite get around to pointing out to them what their errors actually are. What you're left to instead is, apparently, the belief that because you believe so strongly in what you do, this somehow creates a magic shield of innocense so strong that you can frolic among the goosesteppers of thepeoplesvoice.org and come out untainted. That's more than naive. It's moronic.

          In memory of Tom Disch.

          by zemblan on Sat May 26, 2007 at 01:38:42 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (4+ / 0-)

      "is published by the American Educational Trust (AET), a non-profit foundation incorporated in Washington, DC by retired U.S. foreign service officers to provide the American public with balanced and accurate information concerning U.S. relations with Middle Eastern states."

      That's "balanced and accurate" as in Faux News.

      The American Educational Trust was founded in Washington, DC in January, 1982. Its founding chairman was Edward Firth Henderson, a British Army Officer during World War II who served in Europe, North Africa and the Middle East.

      According to the WRMEA website, Edward Firth Henderson

      was employed as an Arabist negotiator and adviser by the Anglo-Iranian oil company in the present day United Arab Emirates and Oman, before joining the British diplomatic service.

      He served as resident political officer in Abu Dhabi, as British consul in Jerusalem, and was the first British ambassador to the State of Qatar. After his retirement from British government service he served in 1980 and 1981 as executive director of the Council for the Advancement of Arab-British Understanding (CAABU) in London.

      Ambassador Henderson left AET in June 1983 to accept a position in the national archives of the United Arab Emirates. While there he published a book of memoirs focused on the formative years of the present Arab states of the Gulf: This Strange, Eventful History, available from the AET Book Club. He died in April, 1995.

      According to his obituary in The Independent, Henderson

      served briefly in the army of occupation in Germany and then, for two years, with Glubb Pasha's Arab Legion in Jordan and Palestine. . . .

  •  Because Palestinians are good, sweet and passive? (6+ / 0-)

    Huh.

    Palestinians are killing Palestinians but that isn't a politically expediant narrative so we must look for a conspiracy or at the very least blame Israel.

    How did I live without him?

    by Pumpkinlove on Sat May 26, 2007 at 06:34:39 AM PDT

  •  Is any of this your work? (3+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    Adam B, Red Sox, eileen fleming

    Because I see nothing after the first sentence that isn't quoted.

    How did I live without him?

    by Pumpkinlove on Sat May 26, 2007 at 06:35:35 AM PDT

  •  Hamas and Fatah are fatally flawed (1+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    ocdiamond

    They are both run by religious fundamentalist power hungry males (OK, the US and Israel, too.)

    Obama doesn't look like Thomas Jefferson, just Jefferson's children.

    by OHdog on Sat May 26, 2007 at 07:04:51 AM PDT

  •  Jerusalem, Ahmadinejad resolutions (1+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    ocdiamond

    House to consider Jerusalem, Ahmadinejad resolutions

    The U.S. House of Representatives will consider resolutions congratulating Israel on 40 years of a reunified Jerusalem and urging the genocide prosecution of Iran's president.
    The House's Foreign Affairs Committee referred the two non-binding resolutions to the full House on Wednesday. They will probably be considered in the first week of June, and are likely to pass.
    The committee's chairman, Rep. Tom Lantos (D-Calif.), sponsored the resolution on Jerusalem, which "commends Israel for its administration of the undivided city of Jerusalem for the past 40 years, during which Israel has respected the rights of all religious groups" and calls on President Bush to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. A similar resolution is under consideration in the Senate.
    The resolution on Mahmoud Ahmadienejad urges the U.N. Security Council to prosecute him under its genocide convention for his calls to wipe out Israel.

    http://www.jta.org/...

    Will the elite be happy living behind gated communities in the potential meltdown? Peace now. -7.00, -2.92

    by mattes on Sat May 26, 2007 at 08:06:20 AM PDT

  •  how does Israel (4+ / 0-)

    benefit from constant fighting among the palestinians?

    What would prevent Captain America from being a hero "Death, Maybe"

    by Doughnutman on Sat May 26, 2007 at 11:23:32 AM PDT

  •  Tags changed (2+ / 1-)

    Recommended by:
    PaintyKat, word is bond
    Hidden by:
    TeresaInPa

    Apartheid refers to a specific set of laws in place in South Africa which were ended in 1994. Unless you intend to write a diary which pertains to the Apartheid laws of South Africa you should stop listing "Apartheid" as one of your tags. It's both misleading and incorrect and every time I see it I am going to remove it and alert the admins.

    •  aparthied tag is appropriate (0+ / 1-)

      Hidden by:
      Shane Hensinger

      stop being a bully and stop changing tags, it is against the FAQ.  Israel is no sacred cow around here just because a small group of people wish it to be so.

      •  Thanks for Insight TeresaInPa (0+ / 0-)

        Seems many readers do not believe in freedom of speech or value independent thought.

        I also wonder if perhaps their comfort zones are so disturbed by the truth they cannot bear to look at, so, they attack anything other than the topic at hand.

      •  I have alerted the admins. (0+ / 0-)

        on this and this is the reply I received:

        That sounds reasonable enough. :-)

        Tags are designed to categorize a story, to make it easier to group. I just finished an African Studies class at NYU and we extensively researched the set of laws which comprised Apartheid in South Africa, so I'm a bit of a stickler on the use of the term. If anyone were attempting to do research on the subject and searched the site for "Apartheid" they would keep running into these diaries - which don't pertain to the subject - at all.

        I have the backing of the admins on this issue. I'm not going to fight about this with you or any other commenter. The tags are wrong and they will be changed according to policy for this site. Anyone who changes them back, in essence using tags as propaganda, is going to have to answer to the admins.

        •  Laura is wrong (0+ / 0-)

          the word has come to mean segregation and separation of racial groups with in a society.
          I don't give a damn about your college class.  In about 10 years you are going to realize how silly you sound saying "I'm right because I got an A in a college class...lol

          I am sure that if I wrote a whiney email to the admins I might be able to pretend they back me up too.

          ps... thanks for cluing me in to your general age and status as a student.  It  explains a lot.

      •  Your TR abuse is (0+ / 0-)

        noted Teresa. I'd suggest you TR the admins as well because they approved the removal of the tag. I am on eminiently solid ground here, which I why I checked with the admins. before removing the tag.

        With your records of hidden comments and inappropriate language it would seem to me YOU'RE the one who should be TR'd. If I were you I would remove the TR.

        •  apartheid is not listed on the approved tag list (1+ / 0-)

          Recommended by:
          Shane Hensinger

             List of approved tags

          You may consult this list by simply accessing it.  As you will see apartheid is not listed among the approved tags suggested for use by the tag librarians.

          PaintyKat

          WWYTR? Voting, contributing, supporting, and electing Democrats

          by PaintyKat on Sun May 27, 2007 at 08:42:55 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  my record of hidden (0+ / 0-)

          comments started the other day because a lot of ignorant hypocrits didn't like that I said the same sort of stupid things about Jews that they were saying about Christians.

          I will troll rate you as long as you abuse the tag system.  New tags can be created.  Tags are not writen in stone and the tag apartied is now on the list. If it is good enough for Jimmy Carter it is good enough for dkos.

          a·part·heid  

          1. An official policy of racial segregation formerly practiced in the Republic of South Africa, involving political, legal, and economic discrimination against nonwhites.

          1. A policy or practice of separating or segregating groups.
          1. The condition of being separated from others; segregation.


          http://www.thefreedictionary.com/...

    •  Beg to differ re: Apartheid (1+ / 0-)

      Recommended by:
      TeresaInPa

      Apartheid is defined in Websters:

      The state of being separate; policies of segregation; political and economic.

      "Israel like South Africa, is an apartheid state."-Former So. African President Hendrick Verwoerd, Rand Daily Mail, Nov. 23, 1961

      YES, he said that in 1961!

      Even after the disengagement 2005, Israel has maintained complete contol of ALL air, land and sea borders of Gaza- nobody gets out; that is Apartheid.

      •  Definition of apartheid (1+ / 0-)

        Recommended by:
        Shane Hensinger

        Google much?

        Definitions of apartheid on the Web:

        "Separateness," (Afrikaans, Dutch); policy implemented by National Party government (1948-94) to maintain separate development of government-demarcated racial groups; also referred to as "separate development," an d later "multinational development"; abolished by Constitution of the Republic of South Africa of 1993.
        reference.allrefer.com/country-guide-study/south-africa/south-africa149.html

        the official policy of racial discrimination that exists in South Africa
        www.imuna.org/c2c/app_a.html

        racial and tribal segregation.
        www.summit.org/resource/dictionary/

        racial, political, and economic segregation of non-European peoples.
        oregonstate.edu/instruct/anth370/gloss.html

        an Afrikaans word which essentially means segregation. The long-term foundation of South African race relations until the 1990s. Whites and non-whites (eg. Africans, Indians, coloureds) were kept separate long before the National Party legislated very specific regulations at the middle of the 20th century defining a de jure version of apartheid. ...
        www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php

        A political philosophy of keeping races apart in South Africa
        jamaat.net/name/name2.html

        System originating in South Africa, designed to prevent blacks from invading their own country. Democratically applied by the New Order to the poor of the world, irrespective of’ colour.
        www.newint.org/issue226/order.htm

        the policy of spatial separation on racial grounds employed in South Africa under National Party rule between the late 1940s and early 1990s.
        media.pearsoncmg.com/intl/ema/uk/0131217666/student/0131217666_glo.html

        a social policy or racial segregation involving political and economic and legal discrimination against people who are not Whites; the former official policy in South Africa
        wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

        Apartheid (International Phonetic Alphabet or in English and in Afrikaans) is the policy and the system of laws implemented and continued by "White" minority governments in South Africa from 1948 to 1990; and by extension any legally sanctioned system of racial segregation. The first recorded use of the word, which means "separateness" in Afrikaans and Dutch, was in 1917 during a speech by Jan Smuts, who became Prime Minister of South Africa in 1919.
        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid

        Every definition refers to South Africa or race.

        Democrats: Members of the Democratic Party working to advance democracy; Republicons: Members of the Republicanist Party working to advance Republicanism

        by word is bond on Sun May 27, 2007 at 11:31:52 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

          •  Aren't you the one cherry picking? (1+ / 0-)

            Recommended by:
            Shane Hensinger

            I gave all ten definitions provided by googling "definition apartheid". No cherry picking.

            You link a site that supports the South African context both as primary definition and as etymology. It also distinguishes between the primary denotation of "apartheid" and numerous instances in which the term has been used as an allegation or epithet. If you follow the links on the page, you find:

            disambiguation: a distinction between the crime of apartheid in South Africa and allegations of apartheid:

            List of apartheid allegations, allegations made against numerous countries that their practices resemble apartheid, including "global apartheid", "gender apartheid" and "sexual apartheid" (referring either to gender or sexual minorites), and "nuclear apartheid"
            Allegations of Israeli apartheid, used to describe the allegations of mistreatment by Israel of the Palestinian population
            Allegations of tourist apartheid in Cuba, used to described allegations of mistreatment by Cuba of its citizens

            Another link at the site you link relates to apartheid (political epithet) and lists the following countries in which it has been used:

            Australia
            Afghanistan
            Bosnia and Herzegovina
            Brazil
            Canada
            People's Republic of China
            Cuba
            France
            India
            Iran
            Israel
            Malaysia
            New Zealand
            Saudi Arabia
            Former Soviet Union
            Sri Lanka
            United Kingdom
            United States

            It's clear that the term "apartheid" has been widely abused as an epithet outside of its true South African context. It would be unfortunate if the tragedy of the South African experience were diluted by the careless use of this epithet.

            Frankly, I think using "apartheid" outside the South African context is a cheap attempt to exploit the suffering of the South African victims by borrowing the emotional impact of ther experience for polemical purposes. They deserve better.

            Democrats: Members of the Democratic Party working to advance democracy; Republicons: Members of the Republicanist Party working to advance Republicanism

            by word is bond on Mon May 28, 2007 at 07:10:09 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

    •  Use of "apartheid" here is tag abuse (2+ / 0-)

      Recommended by:
      PaintyKat, Shane Hensinger

      Shane, I share your concern, and I have done some research which may be of interest if you are contacting the admins.

      First of all, there is a list of approved tags. "Apartheid" is not on it.

      However, the approved list includes "Israel", "Palestine", "Palestinians", "Gaza", "Hamas", "occupation", "racism", "discrimination", and "protests" among other tags that might be deemed relevant by the diarist. Those (or some of them) should be sufficient for anyone who wants to use tags to search for diaries on this subject.

      As Marcos has pointed out,

      The big thing to keep in mind when tagging -- they are a search tool.

      A search tool. Not a place to make a contentious argument - that goes in the text of the diary.

      "Apartheid" has a specific meaning in the history of South Africa. Its use in any other context is a debatable analogy. It is not a generic term. The same would be true if "Holocaust", "Nazism" or "Trail of Tears" were used to tag current events.

      I note that in the past 2 weeks, the "apartheid" tag has been used 11 times, in each case either by eileen fleming or joeskillet. Both are new users who may be more interested in "googlebombing" the tag cloud than in the integrity of the search function at Daily Kos.

      I hope the admins will agree that the "apartheid" tag should not be abused in this way and that TU's should make the appropriate corrections.

      Democrats: Members of the Democratic Party working to advance democracy; Republicons: Members of the Republicanist Party working to advance Republicanism

      by word is bond on Sun May 27, 2007 at 11:23:06 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Actually tag librarians are the ones who are (1+ / 0-)

        Recommended by:
        Shane Hensinger

        involved with cleaning up the tag system.  

        You are correct to suggest the tags are not for editorial purposes.  If they are assigned arbitrarily and don't belong they will ultimately be removed by one of your friendly tag librarians who volunteer for this program.  The problem is that the cleaning leaves the database which ct cleans at some later date as I understand it.

        Teresa should remove her troll rating because it is misplaced and results in her abuse of the rating system.  

        It is not my intent to become involved in this argument but to point out access to tools that allow you to answer your own questions concerning tags.

        Happy Holidays,
        PaintyKat

        WWYTR? Voting, contributing, supporting, and electing Democrats

        by PaintyKat on Sun May 27, 2007 at 08:49:50 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  uprated to offset abuse of rating system n/t (1+ / 0-)

      Recommended by:
      Shane Hensinger

      WWYTR? Voting, contributing, supporting, and electing Democrats

      by PaintyKat on Sun May 27, 2007 at 08:50:38 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I think troll rating bullies (0+ / 0-)

        is appropriate.  Did you uprate any of my comments the other day when these same hypocrits didn't like that I was posting the same idiot comments about jews that they were Christians?
        No that's different huh painty?

        •  No, and I didn't see them. (0+ / 0-)

          And my uprating here wasn't intended to agree or disagree with any sentiments expressed on either side.  

          They were intended to express my belief that troll rating is not intended to express disagreement by you or anyone else.

          PaintyKat

          WWYTR? Voting, contributing, supporting, and electing Democrats

          by PaintyKat on Tue May 29, 2007 at 04:11:19 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Apartheid Tag is Relevant and Right (1+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    TeresaInPa

    Amongst the many names scribbled at the fenced wall at the helm of Cape of Good Hope, someone took the time to write "Palestine". In the Apartheid Wall erected by Israel on Palestinian land in the West Bank, the South African parallel is expressed in more ways than one. The relationship cannot be any more obvious. The fight for justice is one, and shall always be.  

    -Ramzy Baroud is a Palestinian author and journalist.

    •  One Apartheid Regime Down; One More To Go (1+ / 0-)

      Recommended by:
      TeresaInPa

      Cape of Good Hope: One Apartheid Regime Down; One More to Go
      http://www.palestinechronicle.com/...

      By Ramzy Baroud
      PalestineChronicle.com

      ...When Bishop Desmond Tutu visited Palestine, Israeli settlers greeted him with racist graffiti and chants across the West Bank...

      ...I have never felt the sense of solidarity and acceptance that I felt in South Africa. There is an unparalleled lesson to be learned in this amazing place...

      ...Amongst the many names scribbled at the fenced wall at the helm of Cape of Good Hope, someone took the time to write "Palestine". In the Apartheid Wall erected by Israel on Palestinian land in the West Bank, the South African parallel is expressed in more ways than one. The relationship cannot be any more obvious. The fight for justice is one, and shall always be.  

      -Ramzy Baroud is a Palestinian journalist and author of The Second Palestinian Intifada: A Chronicle of a People’s Struggle
      He is the editor of PalestineChronicle.com and can be contacted at editor@palestinechronicle.com

Permalink | 69 comments