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2009: Pick the Next Cabinet

Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 10:40:32 PM PDT

Instead of imagining some of the dire possibilities that could intervene between now and then, let's imagine something more cheerful: the 2008 election goes forward as planned and we win! Imagine you're the new Democratic President taking office in 2009. Now the next question is, who should be in the new cabinet?

In the UK, with its parliamentary system, the parties out of power each have a "Shadow Cabinet" that consists of the people who would most likely get each ministry portfolio if their party took over the government. I've often thought it would be an excellent idea for Presidential nominees to announce their shadow cabinets once they won their party's nomination, since this would give the voters a lot better idea of what to expect from the candidate's administration--realizing that some of them might not ultimately get the job if scandal or health problems or some other factor made them bow out or fail to get Congressional approval. Knowing at least who the candidate preferred for some of the major posts like Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense would help voters gauge how the candidate's government might shape up.

You almost never see radical outsiders picked. Or outsiders of any persuasion for that matter. Sorry, Michael. (And Ralph.) Occasionally an insider goes outside after leaving office (Ramsey Clark or Paul Craig Roberts come to mind), but you have to be inside first in order to be considered.

Historically Presidents seem to appoint one or two close friends or political allies of slightly lesser fame but unquestionable loyalty to cabinet positions that they feel are especially sensitive. Attorney General seems to be a favorite--hence we've had Bobby Kennedy, John Mitchell, Griffin Bell and now Alberto Gonzales. A bad choice for Attorney General (from the perspective of the President's political fortunes, that is) like Janet Reno for Clinton (his own bad choice) or Elliot Richardson for Nixon (more or less forced on him?) can land the President in a world of hurt.

Then there are a number of appointments given out to safe establishment figures whose political pedigree is well known. Clinton had three of these as Treasury Secretaries--Bentsen (good choice) to begin with, followed by Rubin (not so much) and Summers (not so much). Carter had Cyrus Vance as Secretary of State, a classic establishment blueblood.

There are also some people regarded as rising stars in the party who get a crack at cabinet posts, like Henry Cisneros or Elizabeth Dole (yep, she was considered a rising star once upon a time).

I tried to come up with names that I would like to see for 6 cabinet departments: State, Defense, Attorney General, Homeland Security, Treasury, and National Security Advisor. Since we don't know yet who the new Democratic President is, I ruled out all of the candidates now running, plus Al Gore and Wesley Clark, since some of us are hoping one or the other of those two will get into the race. Since we don't know how big the Democratic majorities in Congress will be, I also avoided poaching any current members of Congress to serve in the cabinet.

This is who I came up with:

  • State - Joe Wilson
  • Defense - Max Cleland
  • Attorney General - Elizabeth Holtzman
  • Homeland Security - Gary Hart
  • Treasury - Joseph Stiglitz
  • National Security Advisor - Bob Graham

I can't remember if Joe Wilson is even a Democrat, but he's stood up to Saddam Hussein (in person) and he's stood up to the Bush mafia, so that counts for a lot. State and Treasury are the most likely places to put establishment insiders, which I consider Wilson to be, and the most likely rising stars for State (initials BR & WC) are active or potential candidates now and I already ruled them out. You got it, Joe!

My first thought for Defense was Gary Hart. He may be the best qualified person too, but the situation over at Homeland Security is dire, a dreadful mess that could easily explode on the new President. Max Cleland is the guy I thought Kerry should've picked as his Vice Presidential candidate (heck, if he was going to go with the "reporting for duty" concept he might as well have gone all the way!). It's not certain but it seems all too likely that Cleland may have been robbed in his Senate re-election bid, but he didn't cry about it and went on to serve on the 9/11 Commission (and was outspoken about the problems with that, unlike some the wooden dummies we had in there as placeholder Democrats). He can handle Defense while Gary tries desperately to straighten out the horror-show in Homeland Security before we get attacked again.

Elizabeth Holtzman...didn't she have something to do with Watergate? Well, yes, and ERA, but she has also, since going back to law practice these many years, come out in print with a detailed case for impeaching Bush. She has no soft center of gooey moral relativism where things like torture and spying on patriotic Americans are concerned. She provides a quick antidote to the Addington-Bybee-Gonzales-Yoo creep squad.

Josesph Stiglitz, Nobel prize winner, is also Joseph Stiglitz, former fan of globalization now turned into one of its harsher critics. And no fan of Mr. Greenspan. The financial system has more bodies buried in it than most people know, but he has the insider's knowledge plus a jaundiced eye for the mismatch between the utopian claims for unfettered global capital and the much uglier reality.

Bob Graham, former Senator from Florida, former Presidential candidate in 2004 (I confess: I supported him early on), also served on the Senate Intelligence Committee and conducted an investigation of 9/11 that had a large portion of its findings classified. He definitely knows that 9/11 had a lot more to do with the Saudis and Pakistanis than with anyone in or from Iraq, Syria or Iran. Probably knows where a lot of bodies are buried but is not allowed to say. I don't know who could better advise the new President on national security issues than Bob.

OK, those are my choices, and I only picked 6 positions. Thought about people like RFK, Jr., Scott Ritter and Andrew Bacevich, but figured they didn't have the insider cachet to get past Congress. Do you think other cabinet departments are equally or more important? Who would you name to what post, and why?

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  •  what the heck was that saying? (tip jar) (8+ / 0-)

    "Mojo will get you through times of no dope better than dope will get you through times of no mojo." Or something like that?? I used to have a memory once upon a time...

    •  You're definitely being creative in suggesting (0+ / 0-)

      Joe Wilson at State, but I think he's been too tainted by the fight with the Bushies.  But definitely Hart needs to be in the Cabinet.

      I'm willing to dip into the candidate pool, recognizing that my choice for Pres isn't likely to win:

      Richardson for State.
      Murtha out of the House and into Defense
      Clark (since he hasn't declared) at Homeland
      Hart for National Security Advisor
      Reich back at Labor would indeed be good
      Mort Zuckerman (yes, he's a Dem) at Treasury?

      Attorney General..hard. so hard....

  •  I want Reich back at Labor. (0+ / 0-)

    Or somewhere else.  Rep. Blumenauer at Transportation?

  •  Anyone and everyone who restores merit (2+ / 0-)

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    to civil service would be better then what we have now.

    The Attorney General position in the next administration Must be filled be an individual devoted to the rule of law and the Constitution.  Perhaps Russ Feingold?

    The EPA is another department depleted by Bush cronies.  Barring Gore himself we need a real maverick to restore this agency.

    The VA... I want Mike Gravel.  I know it seems silly, but he would fight like heck for Vets and Vets will need a fighter.

    •  Generally I think the Dem president (7+ / 0-)

      will need to avoid tapping sitting Senators for cabinet posts - especially from any state not irrepressibly blue.  I see no one in the Dem field in Wisconsin who would be a guaranteed winner if Feingold moved to AG.  We had mixed results in the '06 state-wide races and in our most recent state-wide election (Apr '07 - Supreme Court) a tainted Repug soundly defeated a Dem.  That said, Finegold would make a fine, fine AG.

      •  Russ would make a great AG but (6+ / 0-)

        we need him in the Senate even more. It's generally not a good idea to take a good progressive voice out of the Senate as there just are not many of them

      •  I agree... just wishful thinking. (0+ / 0-)

        I was there when he beat Niedermayer... I mean Neumann.

        Go Badgers.  Colbert has declared war now.  :P

      •  who are our rising stars? (0+ / 0-)

        Outside the Beltway, I mean. Used to be that you could name some big to moderately big city mayors (wasn't that what Cisneros was?) that could benefit from the cabinet position on their resume. How about that guy in Salt Lake City? Or there were state officials below the governor level, state attorney generals or lieutenant governors that might also have the ability to move up to a cabinet job. We should know what our bench strength is, know the names of some prospects that could be moved up if the openings arise. Again preferably folks without the existing Beltway association (and associated blinders).

  •  No Republicans (4+ / 0-)

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    Until they can disavow the ideological nuttiness of their party, until they can show they can be trusted to act like reasonable adults again no more Republicans in the spirit of "bi-partisanship".  

    I'm sure there will be pressure to be "bi-partisan" and appoint some Republican to some positions.  This administration, assuming we get a Democrat elected, will have a serious problem with the disaster left behind by the Bushies.  They will need to have everyone working together to fix that.  They can't afford to have someone in the cabinet who is more worried about his party then fixing the mess his party and his president left behind.

    ...that cannot be a wise contrivance which in its operation may commit the government of a nation to the wisdom of an idiot. Thomas Paine Rights of Man

    by Rebecca on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 11:01:51 PM PDT

  •  Team of Rivals? (0+ / 0-)

    As an Obama supporter I definitely see a lot of our presidential candidates in an Obama cabinet.

    VP:  Biden
    State:  Richardson
    Treasury:  Dodd (He is chairman of the Senate Banking Committee)

    John McCain wants to stay in Iraq for a century.

    by jkfp2004 on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 11:03:31 PM PDT

    •  Good point. (0+ / 0-)

      It looks like Dodd and Biden are going to be retiring soon.  I wouldn't want them at those positions, though.
      Biden-Defense.
      Dodd-State.  He reminds me of Brickley Paiste.  He's good on Latin America.

  •  Jim Webb in Defense (5+ / 0-)

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    & Mark Warner as replacement Senator.

    It's Obamazing!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by Chamonix on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 11:05:43 PM PDT

  •  Great diary (0+ / 0-)

    I think that Cleland, Hart, and Stiglitz are fantastic choices. Joe Wilson is a good guy, but wasn't he just an ambassador? That's a pretty big jump to Secretary of Defense. Bob Graham is a moderate so he wouldn't be my first choice, but he does no a lot about national security so I'm not sure. And I don't know anything about Holtzman.  

  •  If John Edwards is elected, David Bonior will (2+ / 0-)

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    probally be appointed as Secretary of Labor.

  •  President Al Gore (1+ / 0-)

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    Vice President Obama
    Secretary of State Richardson
    Secretary of Defense Webb (sorry VA, but we need someone who can rebuild the infrastructure outsourced and destroyed by the last 8 years and Wes Clark can't fit the time frame...)
    Attorney General Spitzer

    I admit I have no clue who could fill the rest of the slots...

    The prophet is a fool, the spiritual man is mad; For the multitude of thy iniquity, and the great hatred...

    by Tirge Caps on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 11:17:40 PM PDT

  •  Even better,,, (0+ / 0-)

    pick the next AG. Who will bush appoint when Gonzales resigns with Congress in recess?

    CHRISTIAN, n. One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor. A. Bierce

    by irate on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 11:22:42 PM PDT

  •  President Gore/Hillary (0+ / 0-)

    VP: Obama
    State: Joe WIlson
    AG: Patrick Fitzgerald
    Homeland: Richardson
    Defense: Clark
    Veterans: Max Cleland
    EPA: Bobby Kennedy, Jr.
    HHS: Vilsack

    Supreme Court Nominee: John Edwards

    Keep your Senators in their seats, boys. We will not be playing musical chairs.

    Better get back to the web. The internet isn't going to surf itself.

    by RodSerling on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 11:41:36 PM PDT

    •  Fitzmas every day? (0+ / 0-)

      Hah, I was waiting for someone to suggest Fitzgerald! I'm not sure he has enough fire in his eyes, although he certainly is methodical. I think you've found the spot for RFK, Jr., at EPA.

      Energy is one that I feel like I should know some obvious prospects for but they're evidently all fading out of my brain at this hour of the night.

  •  My other cabinet posts: Dean for HHS, RFK Jr. for (0+ / 0-)

    Interior, Murtha for Veterans Affairs... and digressing here, I would rebuild FEMA and reinstall James Lee Witt.

    Bob Graham doesn't get my nod as NSA.  He knows too much crap about Bush 9/11 failures and has kept quiet about it out of "decorum."  

    How about Larry Johnson as NSA or Homeland Security!

    Energy Secretary __ if he's not otherwise occupied in a higher office.

    "There's been a little complication with my complication"

    by dash888 on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 12:05:35 AM PDT

  •  Better way to spend our time: POLICIES (0+ / 0-)

    What policies in 2009, what goals in each Department........and, even more important...

    LET UNDECIDED VOTERS KNOW WHAT GOOD DEM POLICIES WILL GIVE THEM IN 2009!

    Best Diary of the Year? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/23/03912/3990

    by LNK on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 12:07:15 AM PDT

    •  but you have to deliver (1+ / 0-)

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      Dishonest as it was, Newt's Contract With America did have the benefit of identifying some very specific policy measures with the Republicans. Trouble was they hardly fulfilled any of the items on their Contract (I remember term limits as one of the biggies--funny how they forgot all about that once they were in the majority). But I like the idea of having a very short list like that of things you're promising to do, if you can keep it from wonkerizing itself.

      The voters are used to hearing Democrats promise solutions for certain big problems that everyone acknowledges--fix the healthcare mess, make us energy independent of Mideast oil, etc. But like the Republicans we don't seem to ever deliver on those big items once we get in. Don't deliver and you can end up worse off than before in the public's estimation (see 1994 and 1998).

      That's why in a way saying who the people are that will implement the policies is a decent alternate view into what kind of policies are actually likely to get implemented. Although there are some ringers in practice (Robert Reich and the Clinton administration's pro-globalization agenda, Colin Powell and the Bush administration's agenda of military aggression far and wide, etc.).

  •  FANTASY LEAGUE ROSTER PICKS... (0+ / 0-)

    ...for a Gore/Obama ticket--

    (Disregarding egos/personality conflicts)

    STATE: Richardson
    DoD: Cohen
    A.G.: Fitzgerald
    INTERIOR: RFK, Jr.
    AGRICULTURE: Harkin (replace with Vilsack)
    LABOR: Edwards
    HHS: Clinton (replace with Spitzer)
    HUD: Tom McEnery (San Jose)
    ENERGY: Andrew Beebe (Apollo Alliance)
    EDUCATION: Delaine Eastin (California)
    V.A.: Cleland
    DHS: Hart

    Left out Treasury, Commerce and Transpo, but here are a few other picks--

    NSA: Bob Graham
    DNI: Wes Clark
    FEMA: James Lee Witt (recall)

    Pretty strong line-up there, I think, with many consensus choices from other commenters, and safe  replacements for the 2 Senators in the line-up.

    With an Edwards/Obama ticket, put Gore at Interior and RFK, Jr. at EPA; Schweitzer at Agriculture and Harkin at Labor.
    If Dodd was at Commerce, who would replace him in Senate?

  •  I'm too busy (0+ / 0-)

    picking out which country I'll be ambassador to to focus on the cabinet picks.

  •  hmm, let's see... (0+ / 0-)

    state: Bill Richardson
    dod: Chuck Robb
    tre$: Joe Biden
    AG: John Edwards
    homeland: Wes Clark
    NatSecAdv: Richard Clark

    ...more later, when I can think of 'em

    up/dn/down/umop
    Michelle Bachman: nutty even by wingnut standards

    by PaintBoy on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 05:53:54 AM PDT

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