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Richardson still doesn't get it.

Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 12:29:19 PM PDT

Gov. Bill Richardson has been trying to 'fix' his flubs at the Logo/HRC forum last week from the moment he walked off the stage. But it doesn't seem to be helping. Now he has talked about it in an interview in the NY Daily News:

Richardson again apologized for saying last week he believes homosexuality is a lifestyle choice rather than a biological characteristic. The comment at a candidates' forum on gay issues sparked outrage in the gay community.

"I made a mistake. I screwed up," he said, acknowledging that the gay blogosphere is upset with him.

That's all well and good, but then he unravels again. More after the flip...

He starts to get in trouble with his next statement:

"[The blogs] went nuts saying, you know, that I literally was a moron and that I didn't understand their struggle," he said.

Now, I didn't think he was a moron, although I'm not surprised some people called him that. I did think that he looked not-ready-for-prime time as he fumbled around and not nearly as strong as I have seen him at other events. But he definitely left the idea that he doesn't understand our struggle (and he looked the most uncomfortable of any of the candidates that night).

But where he really starts sinking is on the continuation:

Richardson, who supports civil unions, was asked if he would veto a gay marriage bill because he believed in his heart that same-sex marriage is wrong. He replied, "I don't want to get into that. I thought you guys were going to ask me about other stuff. Don't you care about other stuff?"

Oh, how do I flub thee--let me count the ways! "I wanna talk about other stuff...whaaaaaaa!" What is up with that? Sorry, Gov, but ya gives yer interviews, ya takes yer chances. Ya gotsta roll with it. At the LGBT forum he dodged the question of whether he would sign a marriage equality bill if it passed the NM legislature. He's still dodging it. If he understood our struggle, he would address the components of this issue and demonstrate his grasp of them. Other candidates have spoken about their misgivings with calling our committed relationships 'marriage' and I respect that. I have commented elsewhere that I am less concerned with a Presidential candidate being 100% pro-marriage equality (including calling it 'marriage') than I am about other issues facing LGBT communities that the next President will have a vast impact on. But Richardson is a sitting DEMOCRATIC governor. Here in CA we had the first marriage equality bill ever passed by a state legislature vetoed by Ahnold. While it's less likely that NM would pass one any time soon, I think it's a fair question.

My biggest problem is that he refuses to engage in the discussion in substantive terms. Yes, he said he supported some form of domestic partnerships/civil unions. And I appreciate the fact that he has called the NM legislature into emergency session to address it. But he's having so much trouble articulating his position, support, and basic understanding of our issues. He almost acts like he feels some sense of entitlement to our support. Maybe LGBT people in NM are confident in him, but he needs to work a lot harder (and more effectively) to convince the rest of us.

This also goes beyond LGBT concerns. The road to getting the party's nomination is a winnowing process. Over time the voters get a chance to see how candidates respond to pressure, adapt to changes in their political fortunes, take advantage of opportunities, and think on their feet. Richardson is a very smart guy who has done some great things. He would be a great SecState and I'd be comfortable with him as Veep, although I'm not sure what he would bring to the ticket. But in this last week he has not made me any more confident. I think he needs to stop digging, because the hole just keeps getting deeper.

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  •  Tip jar. (23+ / 0-)

    And thanks to all.

    Well fuck it all, I'm still not leaving. I'm too goddamn mean and stubborn to be run off by a swarm of annoying insects.

    by homogenius on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 12:29:13 PM PDT

    •  Please don't edit tags. (2+ / 0-)

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      Unless you know what you are doing. Whoever added "Governor" in front of "Bill Richardson", that's not the correct tag. "Bill Richardson" is the correct tag. Please check the FAQ if you're not sure.

      Well fuck it all, I'm still not leaving. I'm too goddamn mean and stubborn to be run off by a swarm of annoying insects.

      by homogenius on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 01:43:00 PM PDT

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  •  Why does Richardson have so much trouble (12+ / 0-)

    articulating his position? .....

    He doesn't know what his position is.

    Its like writing an essay in college (and I am quoting a v. helpful professor here): If you don't know your subject and do not have your ideas and opinions clear in your mind out comes a big mess.

    I still can't get over his Alberto Gonzales comments during the first debate.

    It was downhill from there.

    What a pity, I say.
    I always liked him but familiary does breed contempt. Too many times.

    •  I've lost confidence in him. (4+ / 0-)

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      But he's supposed to be a really smart guy. Does he actually KNOW any gay people?

      Well fuck it all, I'm still not leaving. I'm too goddamn mean and stubborn to be run off by a swarm of annoying insects.

      by homogenius on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 01:04:59 PM PDT

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    •  Sounds to me like (2+ / 0-)

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      Richardson had never before thought about having a position on LGBT issues.

      •  But that's at odds with his record. (2+ / 0-)

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        I mean, he called the NM legislature into emergency session for domestic partnerships. He just doesn't seem to grok it--that's all I can say. Contrast it with Bill Clinton appearing at a Black Church--they know he gets it.

        Well fuck it all, I'm still not leaving. I'm too goddamn mean and stubborn to be run off by a swarm of annoying insects.

        by homogenius on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 01:11:10 PM PDT

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    •  I think he is trying to be too careful (3+ / 0-)

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      I believe Bill knows exactly where he stands on stuff. But he is trying to be too careful. He should just tell us what he thinks and see what happens. I think he would be pleasantly surprised even when he says something unpopular.

      His problem the other day was that he tripped over his tongue and did in fact say something "moronic", which I believe he is acknowledging.

      Basically, he is just trying too damn hard to have everybody like him. He doesn't realize that I don't need to agree with him 100% of the time to support him.

      I am a white, middle-aged, male veteran and I support Obama!

      by TekBoss on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 01:50:57 PM PDT

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      •  I think he does (1+ / 0-)

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        and here is what I honestly think.  I know Richardson had been all over the place in the previous few days to the forum.  I know he had been in New Hampshire and drove all over that state the day before, and flew all night to get to California.  I think his schedule is probably more brutal than any of the other candidates.  I know he works until about 1 am and gets up before 5 to get a jump on the day.  No one is working harder to get the nomination.  I hope, as someone who really just loves the guy, that he is taking care of himself and will get some more rest...once in a while at least!

        "The people have spoken, the bastards." Dick Tuck, as classy as his name implied.

        by liberaltruthsayer on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 02:08:59 PM PDT

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    •  Resume (1+ / 0-)

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      Man for someone with his resume and experience he DOES come off like a moron...

      Hillary Clinton: Because Experience, Leadership, and Standing up for those less fortunate do matter.

      by concernednyer2005 on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 02:13:12 PM PDT

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      •  Moron is really unkind and unnecessary (1+ / 0-)

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        the fact is he has said a few things that didn't come across as he had hoped.

        I have done that plenty of times.  Have you?

        It isn't just a resume, he has honestly been a saving grace to New Mexico.  Our state is much better for him having served it.  If he can do half as much for the country he will be the greatest president since FDR.

        "The people have spoken, the bastards." Dick Tuck, as classy as his name implied.

        by liberaltruthsayer on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 02:18:26 PM PDT

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        •  We all have... (0+ / 0-)

          We all have said stupid things and things that we could have stated better no doubt.  Sadly this has become a pattern for Richardson since he entered the race and it does not matter what your resume is or all the amazing things that you have done in your life that determines where you end up in the Democratic Presidential nomination process.  What determines it (admittedly not fully) is what you say and how you act on the campaign trail and so far Richardson has not impressed me at all.  If you need any further proof of how a great resume, amazing life experiences, and being a hero will not count in a Democratic Presidential nominating process if you cannot articulate your positions just refer to Wes Clark in 2004.  

          Hillary Clinton: Because Experience, Leadership, and Standing up for those less fortunate do matter.

          by concernednyer2005 on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 08:58:05 PM PDT

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  •  no one who has been watching Richardson (5+ / 0-)

    was the slightest bit surprised by this gaffe. His buffoonery was so obvious in this instance that as a gay man, I didn't even have to comment on it...

    Though in fact, I've known Richardson sucks for a long time (see poll).

  •  Richardson's tin ear on civil rights issues (14+ / 0-)

    In the candidate's forum, when Melissa Etheridge asked Gov. Richardson about whether he believes people are born gay or whether he believes they make a lifestyle choice, he answered plainly that he believes it is a choice. Etheridge even restated the question to give him an opportunity to clarify or expand, but he clung to his original statement of his belief that homosexuality is a choice. In other words, he embarrassed himself by saying just what he meant.

    Etheridge wasn't trying to ambush the governor, and the question did not come sailing out of the blue. He was at an LGBT candidates' forum; the question could and should have been anticipated.

    Then Richardon's campaign staff has been issuing a series of "clarifications," spinning out the word that the governor actually meant to say the opposite of what he clearly said.

    This is not the first time Richardson has shown a tin ear on civil rights issues. On a Sunday morning talk show, Richardon was asked about shock jock Don Imus's racist comments on the Rutgers women's basketball team (we all remember Imus's "nappy headed ho's" idiocy). Yet Richardson refused to condemn Imus's racist bile, and instead talked about how he was such a good friend and supporter from New Mexico.

    Damn. That is just plain lousy. Richardson is tripping up on civil rights issues. Maybe we should just take him at his words: he's saying what he really means. If not, he's got the worst tin ear in Democratic politics. Either way, this is no way to win a Democratic primary.

    Obama is to primary as Hillary is to... secondary.

    by jhutson on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 12:47:04 PM PDT

    •  Very well-said. (7+ / 0-)

      Doesn't matter whether he means it or can't articulate. This isn't a race for amateurs.

      Well fuck it all, I'm still not leaving. I'm too goddamn mean and stubborn to be run off by a swarm of annoying insects.

      by homogenius on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 12:50:47 PM PDT

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    •  Richardson made his 'maricon' comment (4+ / 0-)

      on Don Imus, which was shocking to me mostly for its glibness. How many times has Richardson said something like this? you have to wonder...

      In a statement later released by his campaign 15 months after the gaffe, Richardson said that in the Spanish he grew up speaking, "the term means simply 'gay,' not positive or negative." What bullshit! In fact, it's the first gay slur that was ever directed at me, by a Spanish-speaking classmate when I was barely eight years old. (Video here.... Look at the way Imus' sidekick reacts and tell me that wasn't a slur!)

      But again, I expect nothing less than an opportunistic lie from a man who has consistently misrepresented his resumé, claiming for nearly four decades he was "drafted" by the Kansas City Athletics. In fact, he was only "scouted" as a potential pitcher in high school... While his campaign says there wasn't much difference between "scouted" and "drafted" in 1965, I beg to differ. The difference between "scouted" and "drafted", then as now, is the difference between "interviewed" and "hired." (He also claimed for a time to have been "drafted" by the LA Dodgers as well...another lie.)

      Richardson also exagerrates his diplomatic successes, taking credit for negotiations by others (in Darfur and North Korea). And need I say it? He's just not that smart... The Democratic Party can do better.

    •  Richardson used to be a regular on the Imus Show (2+ / 0-)

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      along with just about every other Dem candidate, esp. Biden and Dodd.

      And the way it usually is, it was a mutual appreciation society: Imus gave R. (and the others) plenty of air time, R. loved Imus in return and remained loyal over the years.

      I decided long time ago not to vote for anyone ANYONE who appears on the Imus Show.

      Turns out I am left only with Imus' fav. bash subjects Hillary Clinton and Al Gore should he still decide to jump in the race which I doubt).

      Don't know about Kucinich. If he stayed away from Imus, too, I am in luck there ;-)

      •  Imus Bashed Richardson Too (0+ / 0-)

        It's not the mutual admiration society that you think it is.

        On the February 1 edition of MSNBC's Imus in the Morning, host Don Imus offered a message to New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM): "Besa mi culo," which loosely translates as "kiss my ass" in Spanish. Imus was talking about his frustration with officials in New Mexico, and particularly in the governor's office, over a project that he described as "renovating a school in ... Ribera, New Mexico, to provide a community center for a devastated part of New Mexico." After calling Richardson "that fat governor," Imus said, "How 'bout if I whip your fat ass, Bill?" before an unidentified voice said "Besa mi culo," which Imus echoed. Later in the program, Imus referred to Richardson as "Gordo," which is Spanish for "fat one."

  •  Richardson should just level with everyone (4+ / 0-)

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    and tell his honest opinion.  He doesn't support same-sex marriage and believes being gay is a choice.  That's his view and people would have more respect for him if he would just stick by it, even in the face of our disagreement.

    According to Hillary, "lobbyists are people, too."

    by Prince Georges for Obama on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 12:51:03 PM PDT

  •  How hard is it (7+ / 0-)

    for politicians to come out and say:

    Gay Americans are Americans and as such, they are entitled to exactly the same rights enjoyed by every other American--no more, no less.  That includes the right to marry the spouse of their choosing (subject to laws respecting incest, etc. that also affect heterosexual Americans).

  •  I'm sure this isn't the first time this was said (6+ / 0-)

    about a Democrat (in fact, it should be emblazoned on the party logo in Latin):

    He almost acts like he feels some sense of entitlement to our support.
  •  yup... (5+ / 0-)

    he's in the "i'm not even listening anymore" pile.  a truly pathetic, humanly dreadful, politically tone deaf performance.  melissa etheridge tried really hard to give him a chance to pull it out: "maybe you didn't hear the question quite right..."  

    richardson's a walking self parody.  i was in the kitchen at my office the other day, the day after the afl-cio debate.  someone who hadn't seen it was asking about how it had gone; i went over my take on several of the candidates but hadn't gotten to this one.  my colleague said, "what about richardson?"  i said, "well, number ONE, ....."  my colleague cracked up.

    Generally speaking, it is inhumane to detain a fleeting insight - Fran Lebowitz

    by jmonch on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 12:54:46 PM PDT

  •  With these gaffes... (3+ / 0-)

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    ...Richardson has fallen so far off my A-list that he's now down there with Gravel.

    What a shame. He has so much useful experience.

    I know. But I do not approve. And I am not resigned. -Edna St. Vincent Millay

    by StrangeAnimals on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 12:56:09 PM PDT

  •  I take serious issue with the comments here. (1+ / 0-)

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    Look, I have been a vocal Bill Richardson supporter.  I understand the anger and hurt in the gay community, but I have to ask you this...is this the only issue with which you vote?  

    If it is, then you can look at Bill Richardson's actual record when it comes to LGBT rights, where he has fought time and again for equality for all.  Bill Richardson is the ONLY candidate with an actual RECORD on the issue, with the exception of Dennis Kucinich.

    If it isn't, and I don't think it should be for anyone, then Richardson has the best record on all the other issues, energy, jobs, taxes, health care, education, diplomacy, foriegn policy...

    Do we want someone who has merely sat on committees for their political experience at the HELM of our government?  Or would we rather have someone who has actually GOVERNED?

    I vote for experience.

    "The people have spoken, the bastards." Dick Tuck, as classy as his name implied.

    by liberaltruthsayer on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 01:25:16 PM PDT

    •  A little defensive there. (3+ / 0-)

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      Most of the comments here have been pretty substantive. I don't see a lot of cheap shots.

      By all means go and advocate for your guy. But his handling of this mess says a lot about him. He keeps flubbing it.

      I'm not exactly a single-issue voter. All the candidates at the forum meet my threshold for a presidential candidate--I'm willing to focus the need to support full marriage equality on candidates for congress and state and local offices. But support for my civil rights is non-negotiable. At least Richardson showed up--Dodd and Biden couldn't even do that. And I was starting to like Dodd.

      Well fuck it all, I'm still not leaving. I'm too goddamn mean and stubborn to be run off by a swarm of annoying insects.

      by homogenius on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 01:30:30 PM PDT

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    •  with all due respect (5+ / 0-)

      this diary is about richardson's performance at a particular forum.  dismissing the critics of his performance in that forum as single issue voters will win you few open minds about your candidate.

      and one more thing: single issue voters are generally called by another name on dailykos; they're considered purity trolls.  surely that's not what you're suggesting, here.

      Generally speaking, it is inhumane to detain a fleeting insight - Fran Lebowitz

      by jmonch on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 01:39:29 PM PDT

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      •  not entirely hip to all the Kos vernacular (1+ / 0-)

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        and would have been hard pressed to define purity trolls...and I sure am not saying that.

        I sincerely and honestly understand the hurt and anger and bewilderment that the HRC/LOGO debate performance caused.  I know the Governor and his record well because I live in NM.  It is a small state. I believe in him, and I know where his heart really is in these matters.  I know he would make the best president.  

        "The people have spoken, the bastards." Dick Tuck, as classy as his name implied.

        by liberaltruthsayer on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 01:46:01 PM PDT

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        •  i've lived in dc all my life (2+ / 0-)

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          and i know he's a good man, and a fine public servant.  he has, however, done really poorly in these debates and public fora; people who've known him for years are wondering why he seems so off and clumsy.  he's a highly skilled, brilliant guy but he usually looks bad and seems over trained, starting at too high a pitch; it makes him look uncomfortable.

          Generally speaking, it is inhumane to detain a fleeting insight - Fran Lebowitz

          by jmonch on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 02:01:18 PM PDT

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          •  I see your point. (1+ / 0-)

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            I hate to see it myself.  I know how brilliant and good he is.  I know how skilled and ethical and honest he is.  He isn't astroturf, he isn't a perfect media puppet, he is just a decent human being seeking a job that he is most qualified for.

            "The people have spoken, the bastards." Dick Tuck, as classy as his name implied.

            by liberaltruthsayer on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 02:15:25 PM PDT

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  •  Anybody but Hillary . . . (1+ / 0-)

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    and this includes Richardson

    •  Oh no! The dreaded "H" word. (2+ / 0-)

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      Hold on, the pie concession stand isn't open yet and we don't have the plastic tarps down. And would somebody PLEASE hoist the crystal chandelier out of firing range.

      Well fuck it all, I'm still not leaving. I'm too goddamn mean and stubborn to be run off by a swarm of annoying insects.

      by homogenius on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 01:46:30 PM PDT

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    •  How about ANYBODY BUT A REPUBLICAN??? (4+ / 0-)

      I don't think my heart or soul could take another republican presidency.

      Let's not get distracted by petty bickering.  A democrat in the white house, as well as democrats leading the house and senate, are what we need to get America back on course.  The rest will come out in the wash.

      "The people have spoken, the bastards." Dick Tuck, as classy as his name implied.

      by liberaltruthsayer on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 01:48:45 PM PDT

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  •  On the marriage-bill question (3+ / 0-)

    One commenter over at Pam's House Blend suggested that Richardson might be deliberately being evasive about that question because of concerns over how his answer would affect the progress of the domestic-partnership bill currently being considered in NM. I'm not really familiar with the situation in NM, but it's at least plausible.

    I do like conducting hearings in an actual hearing room -- John Conyers

    by ebohlman on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 02:31:56 PM PDT

    •  I hadn't thought about that, but it is an (0+ / 0-)

      interesting point.  I know he is fighting hard to get a domestic partnership bill through a very difficult legislature.  

      "The people have spoken, the bastards." Dick Tuck, as classy as his name implied.

      by liberaltruthsayer on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 02:33:54 PM PDT

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      •  And I geniunely appreciate his efforts. (2+ / 0-)

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        I think it's really awesome. I just have a hard time understanding why he fumbles so. It seems like his heart is in the right place, but he has such a hard time articulating it.

        Well fuck it all, I'm still not leaving. I'm too goddamn mean and stubborn to be run off by a swarm of annoying insects.

        by homogenius on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 02:47:00 PM PDT

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  •  I've Concluded He's Homophobic And He Hasn't (0+ / 0-)

    realized it.

  •  Progressive NM LGBT voters on Richardson (2+ / 0-)

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    From Democracy for New Mexico:

    I'm gay, and I'm also a progressive Democrat. I write this blog and help coordinate a progressive grassroots group. I have both supported and been opposed to any number of Gov. Bill Richardson's actions and positions during his time in office here in New Mexico, whether related to health care, campaign funding, ethics, the environment, energy, education, budget matters or paper ballot voting (where election reform activists worked closely and sucessfully with Richardson and Dem legislators). I haven't decided on a presidential candidate and I'm keeping my options open. I have no axe to grind.

    Sometimes I've applauded what Gov. Richardson has accomplished. At times I've been highly critical of him. Sometimes I've lacked trust in what he's saying. But one thing I've learned to trust him on over time is his strong support on issues of importance to the GLBT community -- because I've watched him push through a number of pro-equality initiatives, even when it's been difficult to do so in a state that's conservative in many respects. And I've witnessed him keep trying when a measure like a domestic partnership bill is being bashed by legislators on both sides of the aisle. (During our last legislative sesssion, such a bill lost by one vote.) And as far as I know, he has always interacted with members of the GLBT community with real ease and compassion, whether at pride events, or at a GLBT retirement community ribbon cutting or in other settings.

    Do I wish Richardson and every other Democratic politician would just be done with it and proclaim their unequivocal support for gay civil marriage? Of course. I strongly believe that anyone who says they support equal rights for all under the law should have no qualms about doing that. Unfortunately, we're not there yet. I have confidence we will be someday soon, but in the meantime I applaud Democrats for taking positions in support of the fullest domestic partnerships and civil unions that might be achievable legislatively right now. Richardson is one of those Dems.

    In other words, despite all the negative punditry about Bill Richardson's performance at last week's GLBT presidential forum on LOGO, I have no fears that he is a bigot in terms of GLBT folks. None whatsoever. We all know that at times he can be verbally clumsy, inarticulate or unclear, especially when he's harried or tired, and I think this was what caused the snafu at last week's GLBT presidential forum on LOGO. I just wanted to get that said publicly so primary voters will make their decisions pro or con based on analyzing other facets of Richardson's character and positions -- but not on any misperception that he's biased against members of the GLBT community.

    I think the media and others are giving him a real hard time on this, and I just wanted to say my piece. Bill Richardson is many things, but in no way is he an enemy of the GLBT community -- just the opposite in fact.

    Here are some of the follow up comments:

    I had the same thought. Was it a slow news week? Was it just time to pick on him? The reaction seemed way out of line. Gay or not Gay, we see still like to believe we have some lifestyle choices open to us.

    Posted by: suz | Aug 14, 2007 9:04:43 AM

    I think many GLBT people don't have a choice but I also think there are many people in the "gray areas" of sexuality and gender who are more fluid and essentially choose their paths. As Richardson said, whether it's a choice or not, everyone needs to be treated equally under the law, period.

    I also thought Edwards and Hillary were way worse than Richardson on the issues. Edwards never did explain why he is against gay marriage and he pandered by taking back his "religious faith" excuse. Hillary wouldn't commit to much, not even to try and get rid of DOMA.

    Basically, though, I believe all of the Democratic candidates would work hard to improve things for GLBT people. Just a matter of degree and what they are prepared to say publicly during the race.

    Posted by: GLBT voter | Aug 14, 2007 10:19:38 AM

    Thank you for posting this! I think it is incredibly important that we remember as a community our allies and friends. I couldn't agree with your assesment of this situation more! the Governor was tired, and probably uncomfortably so. That said after 14 years of trying in NM to pass Non discrimination in the workplace, he helped us get it, and kept Gender Identity in the bill when many legislators were backing away from that language! The same with Hate Crimes. Executive Order granting DP benefits to state employees, and working hard to keep a DOMA off the books here. The biggest thing to know about our Governor, that has been my experience is that in the GLBT community he has never made a promise he didn't keep, or bust his ass trying!

    Thanks for this post!

    Posted by: Marshall | Aug 14, 2007 11:39:59 AM

    I agree with Richardson when he said that the others were making speeches about gay rights but he has done it-passed bills and issued executive orders to fight for them.

    We need full legal rights. What we call the rights I don't care.

    I think Gravel was right when he said in 5 years this won't even be much of an issue. America's younger people are all for equality for GLBT people and the older bigots are dying off. Minds have changed so much from even the Clinton presidential terms.

    Posted by: Iggy | Aug 14, 2007 1:48:54 PM

    What all this pundit jabber does is take the attention off of Hillary who offered nothing concrete at all for the GLBT community. As Melissa Etheridge told her, the Clinton admin threw gays under the bus after taking much money and support from them and making many promises.

    I wish as much had been made of Hillary's vow to keep taking lobbyists' money at the Yearly Kos forum as is being made of this nonstory. She defended taking money from corporate lobbyists like it was a pure as the driven snow.

    Posted by: Lolly | Aug 14, 2007 2:51:47 PM

    Bill Richardson: "Get out now. Get all our troops out now. It is the only right and responsible choice."

    by Stephen Cassidy on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 04:05:10 PM PDT

  •  Richardson's Record on LGBT Issues (1+ / 0-)

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    Here are some New Mexicans who can tell you how strong Bill Richardson is on LGBT issues.

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