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THE OSTRICH PAPERS: It Will Take ALL Decent Citizens to Save America

Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 01:14:59 AM PDT

For some time, I’ve called upon moderate and liberal Americans to gather the fortitude and determination to fight for our nation’s survival  where it matters most.  

Not by attending rallies, or going door-to-door, or energizing the base, or hanging around like-minded people, or posting livid screeds, or even sending cash to your favorite candidate.   Those are all fine things.  But they miss the most important fact -- and opportunity -- about this crucial election cycle.  

Today’s critical issue has nothing to do with the outdated so-called "left-right" political axis.

With the very survival of Constitutional government and the American Experiment at stake, we cannot afford to leave this to simpleminded partisanship.

Our opportunity - and obligation - is to rip open Karl Rove’s "big tent conservative coalition."

To pry it apart - one person at a time - by approaching millions of decent fellow citizens who were duped into supporting a criminal gang.

One person at a time.

What? Am I really suggesting we should reach out to... conservatives?

Well, yes... some of them.
Absolutely.  
Indeed, this is the only possible way to win an overwhelming victory.

Not for liberals or Democrats or even moderates.  
But for America.

Ponder this absolute lesson of history.  

The surest way to achieve success - in war or peace or politics - is to break up your foe’s alliance.

To strip away his supporters.  
In this case, by showing some of them that they’re more at home in our Big Tent.  
At least this time around.  

At least long enough to save America.

Yes, I know this will be hard.  
It can feel so satisfying to demonize others with a single, strawman image.  
(Don’t they do it to us?)  
Alas, though, it is also self-indulgent and stupid.  

Suppose we could succeed in shattering Rove’s coalition, would that not be worth applying a little nuance to our oversimplified stereotype of "conservatives?

The potential benefit? It would not only end the Bush era in a landslide. We might also permanently discredit the neoconservative "revolution" and help to end the bitter, artificial Culture War that was deliberately concocted to tear our country apart.  

That final point is crucial.

For, if Culture War continues, even after a Democratic victory, then any Hillary Clinton presidency (for example) will be ashes in our mouths.  

Sure, law and openness and respect for truth will return.  
Great.  
But we will also endure nothing less than a bitter resumption of the regional hatreds that sparked American Civil War.  

Not her fault, you say?  
You say that "culture war" was foisted on us by cynical manipulators?
So?  
We’ll still be consigned to four or eight years of living hell.  Think Whitewater and Monica... multiplied by a hundred.

We don’t just need victory for one electoral side, kicking out a set of bums .  We need a victory for the very concept of decency and openness and accountability.  
And, for that to happen there must be a seismic change on the right.  

The dream we should hold out to our neighbors is the restoration of a conservatism that is worth talking to. A version no longer tied to jibbering loonies and an outright criminal gang.

If we reach out and steal "decent conservatives" from Rove’s Big Tent, we will not only weaken the monstrous, undead thing called neoconservatism, but we may even (to our own surprise) gain new friends.  

Neighbors we can argue and negotiate with sensibly, like adults.

Indeed, possibly fellow citizens who (though conservative) may have a good idea or two.

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Using this handy guide to waking-up a Republican ostrich.

This essay is long and thorough, making it useful as a reference for any of you militant-moderates looking for "ostrich ammo."  Do NOT send your favorite "decent conservative" here saying "read this!"  All they’ll see is another online tirade. This chore must be done in person.  One on one.  

Said one experienced ostrich converter: "You need to make firm contact with the bit that's in the sand rather than what's poking up above it. Engage them on their terms. Don't harangue."

Ask them: "what it is that makes them believe the GOP and Bush are better for America?"You can then focus your counter-arguments on what's important to your ostrich, by their own admission.

Yes, relentless pursuit is necessary, while your ostrich is in denial! But if you do make headway, there will come a time when they run out of excuses and face the uncomfortable fact they’ve been wrong. Let them come to terms with that in their own way.

Resist backsliding and your own urge to gloat!  (After all, the left had its own era of foolish association with monsters, and it may again. Admit it!)  Be supportive... but... do... not... let... go.

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So, you ask -
"HOW do I help break up the Rove big-tent conservative coalition?"

Here’s how.

1) Recognize that Rove’s "big tent" is filled with contradictions. With people holding their noses.  
With constituencies who have never actually received anything tangible from the Bushites, for all their loyalty.  
With (for example) libertarians who despise religious fanaticism, but put up with raving fundies, because they imagine that -"the GOP is better for free markets than the Democrats would be."   (Ha!)

We must exploit these contradictions, using blatant truth as a wedge to pry apart groups that shouldn’t be allies in the first place.

2) Go ahead and be proud that moderate-liberalism has been responsible for most of the great American accomplishments of the last 100 years.  True enough.

Nevertheless, accept that there is a decent and honorable side to conservatism.  The Goldwater version - minus today’s venality and bigotry - that always offered an important balance to the liberal urge to frantically meddle.    If we appeal to this better side - describing how Goldwater himself despised the neocon movement - and showing how the Bushites betray even conservative standards, then you may be listened-to.  Better than if you scream.

3) The key point. You can do your part, at the grass roots, by choosing one or two "Ostrich Republicans"... decent folks like your crewcut-wearing Uncle Jack, who has a good heart, but watches Fox News and wallows in the delusion that Democrats are ALL like that silly, postmodernist college professor that Bill O’Reilly railed at, last night on the boob tube. (Um... we’re not!)

Poor, deluded Uncle Jack, who actually believes that these thieving, lying, vicious, klepto manipulative neocon loons are "conservatives" ... just like him.

OSTRICH AMMO: We’ll break up this lengthy missive (rant?;-) with small dollops of "ammo" to use on your favorite ostrich-uncle.  Later on - some Killer YouTube clips, for the 50% of Americans who have mid-band. (NONE of us has real "broadband." Ask any Korean.)  

Your stereotypical ostrich sees himself as a stand-up guy.  Open. Honest. And he despises hypocrisy!  Except, of course, from his own "side."  So stick some of these in front of him and don’t let him turn away.

http://www.issuepedia.org/...   Bush attacking Clinton during the (outstandingly successful) Balkans Intervention:

Victory means an exit strategy, and it’s important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is.
and
I think it’s also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.

http://www.cnn.com/...   Bush making at least twenty promises to the military men and women he has since betrayed.Check out where he denounces the practice of "using our troops as nation-builders."

But enough ammo for now. Back to the main article.

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"So, I’ve chosen my Ostrich.  What do I say to him?"
 
I’ve spent years trying to refine this message.  
Some attempts were too intellectual ... or steeped in history...
...or offered detailed comparisons of the Iraq and Balkans wars, (hint: Bill Clinton was vastly better at war than our current "leader.")  
Or exposing the weird - but indisputable - fact that Democrats guard our borders vastly better than republicans do, despite contradicting rhetoric.

If your ostrich likes that sort of fact-drenched discourse, you could dive deep into the roots of neoconservatism and see how this mad movement fits in the rogues gallery of enemies of freedom, right alongside communism.  

 If your ostich reads, point him or her to a recent article in the genuinely (if flexibly) conservative journal, The Economist, about reasons for the death spiral of the Republican Party.  EXCERPT:

"Many conservative activists would like to pin the blame [for the decline of the Republican party] on Mr Bush alone either because he pursued foolish policies (the paleo-conservative version) or because he pursued sensible policies in a cack-handed manner (the neoconservative version).  In fact, the Republican Party in Congress is just as responsible as Mr Bush for most of the recent troubles. The Republican majority routinely appropriated more spending than the president asked for. It also larded spending bills with as much extra pork as possible. The number of congressional earmarks for projects in members' districts increased from 1,300 in 1994, when the Republicans took over Congress, to 14,000 in 2005.  The Republican majority also cheered Mr Bush all the way to Baghdad . Add to this the corruption of congressmen like Tom DeLay, a conservative hero, and the semi corrupt institutional relationship that the Republicans formed with lobbyists, and you see that Mr Bush was only part of a much bigger problem. ... It is a sign of weakness that the conservatives are retreating to their old posture as insurgents, and need a bogeywoman like Mrs Clinton to hold them together."

Or, if you and your ostrich share a deliciously paranoid streak, you might ponder how deeply suborned the entire political process may have become, given basic flaws of human nature, and  by bad men with unlimited resources.    (See:
http://www.davidbrin.com/...

Heck, explore together the comparison of two words... "whitewater" and "blackwater"... (try Google)... and ask him which turned out to be scarier.

Lately though, I’ve come to realize that what’s needed isn’t very complicated.  

In fact, it’s simple.  

Relentlessness!  

If you do heed this call -- if you do pick a few decent-but-deluded Ostrich Americans to go after -- grab their lapels and do not let go!

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Start with this:

"Let's agree this is important.  As a patriotic citizen, you should be interested, because these accusations have little to do with normal, left right disputes.  

"The issue is whether the country - and the conservative movement - have been hijacked by a criminal gang.  If a fifth of these things are true, then you, as a conservative, should be angrier than anybody!

"Decent conservatives like you need to rescue your movement, before it!(becomes irretrievably associated with monsters."

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Of course, once you've said that, you have to follow up.  
So heed this fundamental approach:  

Learn the art of seeing the world through "decent conservative eyes"... AND THEN ATTACK THE NEOCON MONSTERS IN CONSERVATIVE TERMS!    
Use facts that are obvious.  
Facts that scream.

  • Like the fact that, in Bill Clinton's day, we did not have to lower our recruitment standards, forcing our long-suffering Army to let in ex felons... or offer $20,000 signing bonuses to bribe new "volunteers."  A sure sign that the nation is not behind this "war."
  • Or the fact that only two (just two!) of our Army's brigades are currently fully trained, equipped and ready for actual war to defend this country! All the rest have been converted into counter insurgency urban swat teams.  (One general said "Bill Clinton's U.S. Army could beat our present force with one hand tied behind its back.")  
  • If Bill Clinton was hiding so much, why did he cut government secrecy in half?  If the Bushites are so responsible, why do they run from facts, from testifying, from oversight? Why have they multiplied government secrecy to levels ten times greater than when we were in a life death Cold War struggle against the Soviet KGB?
  • In past wars, patriotic wealthy Americans stepped up, accepting the need to help pay for a struggle fought by other peoples’ sons.  If we’re now "at war," how come the top neocon billionaires have just two priorities - increasing their tax cuts and getting no-bid, crony contracts to NOT deliver what’s needed in Iraq?

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AMMO CAPSULE!  

After inheriting surpluses from Clinton, Bush has run up over $3 TRILLION dollars in debt.  Bush's FY2002 budget forecast understated the five-year deficit by $2.8 TRILLION dollars.  Federal spending as a percentage of GDP was 21.4% when Clinton took office and 18.5% when he left, but is now back up to 20.8%.  The Dow Jones Industrial Average increased 325% during the Clinton years but only 27% during the Bush years.  The S&P 500 increased of 309% under Clinton and 9% under Bush. Economic growth was considerably higher under Clinton than under Bush and small businesses grew even faster than giant ones.  Isn’t that what we want?  

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Oh, the list of conservative reasons to hate the Bush Gang goes on and on. It's not hard to find zingers and statistics.  
But keep it simple.
Go right to the heart of what your ostrich already knows.

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Try this list of supposedly basic conservative values:

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Respect for professionalism?

Fiscal prudence?  

Respect for the military officer corps?  

Emphasizing military readiness over foreign adventures in "nation building"?  

Respect for science?

A belief in openness, transparency and accountability?  

A distrust of secrecy?  

Gentility and courtesy in argument and discourse?

A dedication to small business?

A belief in free markets where competition is fostered, and not catering to monopolies?  

Government contracts that are open and granted to competent low bidders, instead of cronies of the king?  

Saving for a rainy day?  

Skillful management?

Caution in foreign entanglements?  

Maintaining our reserves and respecting the men and women of the National Guard?

Respecting our allies and world opinion?

Protecting our strategic petroleum reserves?

Belief in leaving people alone in their homes.

Belief in a nation that is as clean in its habits as we are in our homes?

Practicing what we preach - especially in family values...

...and so on...

Exactly which of these conservative values has not been diametrically reversed by these neocon lunatic traitors?

Dare your ostrich to find one.  
Find even one.

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AMMO CAPSULE!   Make a list of YouTube Hypocrisy Moments and force your ostrich to watch them in short jolts.  Bush standing in front of the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED sign... and then later blaming the sailors for it when the White House had ordered it made.

http://agonist.org/...  Here’s a real doozy in Which Dick Cheney explains why it would be crazy to try to topple Saddam and deal with the subsequent quagmire.  Until he later did a 180.

http://www.youtube.com/...  Another "in their own words" YouTube entry exposes a "Symphony of Lies".  If your Ostrich is reachable at all, this will make him or her cringe.

Alas, YouTube only work where Americans have "broadband" - at best pathetic by world standards.  As we plummet toward 40th place in lifespan and 50th in student test scores and lose our knack for science, engineering and can-do professionalism, shall we make that decline an ostrich topic too?

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I could go on with this "Ostrich Manifesto".

There are countless, countless zingers that can stick in the gut of your Uncle Jack... and maybe shake him awake.

For example, try this line.

"What would you have said if Bill Clinton had --"

And then fill in the blank with something any conservative ought to find repulsive, if they did not have their head buried in the sand.  

Like "losing" several billion dollars in cash, by the side of an Iraqi road.

Or "losing" a quarter of a million weapons in Iraq without even keeping their serial numbers.

Or "losing" several billion dollars worth of Iraqi oil per month...
...which is vastly more than the right wing screamed about, during the so-called "Oil-For-Food" scandal.

Make a long list and demand -

"What would you have said if this happened under Clinton?
If one thousandth  of any of this had happened then?"

Now tell them how strenuously the Bushites have striven to strengthen the Presidency and insulate it from all supervision, oversight or duty - not only to Congress but the people - sending secrecy skyrocketing far beyond anything we saw in the Cold War. And ask this. "Do you really want future Democratic presidents to have such power?  Or do you feel that the Bushites are doing this because they don’t intend to ever let that happen?"

Ask them to ponder just how far loyalty to their side goes.  (Psychologically, this is the trait that keeps most conservatives standing by the GOP, despite all these listed betrayals and horrors.)  Do they really hate "liberals and moderates" so much that another conservative value respect for law and due process, can just be thrown away?

Hammer home that no administration has been more universally detested by our military officers, or by the middle ranking officers of the intelligence community, or by government scientists, or - indeed - by almost any professional person in the United States of America, than our present band of frat-boy know-nothings.

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To reiterate: these are all zingers that argue with your ostrich in conservative terms!  

Again, don’t even bother trying to remonstrate with him or her about pollution or torture or global warming or health care!  
Their defenses against these issues are up, prepped by Fox News.  
Those appeals will flow off their backs.  For heaven’s sake, leave off social jabs about marriage, in all its newly varied forms.

(Unless you’d like to compare the vastly different rates of messy divorce seen in top leaders of the two parties.  Or the rate at which party leaders are arrested for sexual perversion.  Ratios that are astronomically different!  So much for "family values.")

No.  DON’T give in to jabs and jibes and invitations to argue with him or her across the sterotypical left-right divide.  Fox has armed him for that!  So keep it about conservatism.  ALL conservative stuff, all the way!

Where they are vulnerable -- where you can get through -- is by showing your ostrich that no decent conservative American should have anything to do with this gang of  monstrous liars, morons and thieves...

...or the awful, awful pack of guys (with the exception of Ron Paul) who are parroting the same crazy stuff, all over the country, right now, while vying for leadership  over a party that has simply gone quite, jibbering mad.

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Oh... don’t forget to lace your riffs with lots of patriotism! And make it sincere, because it ought to be.

For too long, liberals have allowed conservatives to preen and pretend they own that word.  Remind your ostrich that this is about our country.  It’s about America, the light of freedom and center of the Enlightenment.  The nation that embraced science and progress as no other ever did.  The one that first put law above men. The first victor in war who showed kindness to the vanquished.  The first to lead a world by virtue and example, rather than force. The one country that absorbed half of the refugees and immigrants who ever struggled to find new lives and better themselves and their children.  

An America that is being hijacked, as we speak, by homegrown monsters who are every bit as dangerous as foreign communists once were.

If loyalty is the chief conservative virtue... the glue keeping so many decent conservative Americans attached to a GOP gone-mad... then USE LOYALTY to melt that bond!  Loyalty to something better, greater, more important than a political party.   Yes, mention humanity and the Earth and the future and posterity... all the things that give liberals goosebumps....

...but try adding loyalty to America, too.

Because America IS KEY to all those other things prospering!

Because, despite all our faults, this nation remains the light of the world and the best hope of humankind.

But, above all, because your ostrich just may listen to you then.  And perhaps even remember that liberals and moderates are Americans, too.

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  *  CONCLUSION *

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Want to know the real tragedy?  

It really is the Democratic Party’s fault.
If they spent just a little time and effort on this kind of  plan...
...the way the early neocons did, at the Heritage Foundation...
...there could emerge a fantastic web-based campaign reaching out to "decent conservatives".  
One of potentially staggering effectiveness.

As a side benefit - a huge one - such an effort could also encourage whistle-blowing by civil servants who are sick and tired of the neocon "War Against Professionalism."  

Even better, picture if some democratic candidate -- or a convention speaker -- were to take up this theme.  A stirring moment reaching across all our political divides, appealing for a coalition of the honest.  An alliance of the sane.

It could turn into the most potent gesture and effective move against political madness since the US Army (in the person of  JAG Joseph Welch) finally turned on the infamous demagogue Sen. Joseph McCarthy and demanded "At long last, Sir, have you left no sense of decency?"

Thereupon sending THAT generation’s right wing monster slinking away and letting the rest of us - (conservatives too) - get back to the business of civilization.

All of this could happen.

But only if we are willing to gird ourselves not to play Karl Rove’s game.

He WANTS us to align ourselves left versus right.  
That way, all people who see themselves as right-of-center MUST support him, even if they feel ashamed.   (Long ago, the communists tried this same trick on the moderate left, which proved smart enough to stand up and say no way! But apparently it works fine on conservatives.)

We can thwart this vile scheme, but only if we make our Big Tent truly inclusive, welcoming. A coalition fiercely focused upon a single issue that transcends cliches of left/right.. Liberal vs conservative arguments - like health care - can and must wait.  

We have one job now.  Not only to defeat and eject the criminal gang that has seized our nation, but to utterly repudiate it, forever, denying it even a sizeable base to hide in, licking its wounds and swearing vengeance upon the Age of Reason.

Let neoconservatism flutter away into kooky corners and archaic silliness, like communism, with which it shares so many dismal traits. (Remember, the left once went mad, too.)

Sound good? Well, that repudiation can only happen if we enlist millions of decent citizens from all parts of America.  Including millions who happen to be "decent conservatives."

Millions who will stand up for America, if we stay after them, politely refusing to let go, relentlessly asking that they lift their heads out of the sand and see what has been done to the honor of conservatism.  

An honor that's been stained and tainted, but that could still be restored... there’s  time!

But only if they stand up soon.

If they rise up and join the rest of us.

Helping to rescue this threatened America, our beloved country.

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"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men." Edward R. Murrow

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Check out "comments" below, as other readers send in some of their own, favorite "great moments in hypocrisy."

Tags: conservatives, outreach, psychology, activism, framing, Rescued (all tags) :: Previous Tag Versions

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  •  So post a tip jar!!! (3+ / 0-)

    Jeeez!  Rec'ced.  If you had a tip jar, I'd tip you too!  Nicely done!

  •  I agree with your enthusiasm (4+ / 0-)

    And with your basic premise, at least at it's core.  But I would offer two critiques, not meant to be insulting:

    1. A little too wordy.  In my experience, after about four or five average-sized paragraphs, people lose interest.  It's frustrating, especially when you have a lot you're trying to say.  But excess verbiage was John Kerry's problem – and look where it got him!  Better to keep it to a manageable number of points.  Maybe break up a big diary into a few smaller ones if necessary.
    1. When it comes to boldface, a little goes a long way.  God knows I like to place emphasis on certain words (although I'm more of an italics man myself), but too much of it runs the risk of coming off as condescending, as if you're saying that the reader can't decide for himself what's important.

    I agree with you in that we are facing a crisis in this country.  More personally, I also believe that the events of the last few years only serve to underscore some of the glaring structural inadequacies of our Constitution, which demand correcting if similar – or worse – crises are to be avoided in the future.  I highly recommend Sanford Levinson's recent work on this topic, Our Undemocratic Constitution: Where The Constitution Goes Wrong And How We The People Can Correct It.

    Finally, there is a glimmer of hope:  Karl Rove's coalition seems to be unraveling all by itself.  If Rudy Giuliani is the GOP nominee that could very well be the final nail in the coffin.

    "We must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom." - Kodos

    by Jon Stafford on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 01:27:48 AM PDT

    •  Yes, this was a slog (2+ / 0-)

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      ... and I didn't make it all the way through. This diary is 4,000 words. Sorry, but when I want to read 4,000 words, I don't generally come to DailyKos diaries.

      As for bolding, I mostly agree with you. I also use it visually (i.e., to catch the eye on the screen) as well as aurally (i.e., to provide emphasis).

  •  I'd post this same challenge (6+ / 0-)

    to Blue Dog Democrats.  They are the the closest to the ostriches, and so have the best leverage to pull their heads out.

    Unfortunately, most of the "conservatives" that I've had the displeasure to meet are the Southern Baptist theocratic types.

    •  There are two kinds of "God" (3+ / 0-)

      The first "God" agrees with whatever the ostrich thinks.  In other words, "God" is always, literally, on their side.  Think the Reverend Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church.

      For these folks, go for their pocketbooks.  They'll use "God" as their shield when it comes to intellectual arguments but they have to pay their bills like anyone else.

      The second "God" is a higher being who is more interested in people's souls than their politics.  To reach these people, you may or may not use religious tenets like "Care for the sick.".

      (If you need to see an example of the first "God" look up the books BabyWise and To Train Up a Child.  Both take a few cherry picked scraps of the Old Testament to justify "chastising" children with various implements.  It's pretty amazing what people can justify by declaring that it is "God's Will".)

      Proud member of the Cult of Issues and Substance!

      by Fabian on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 02:53:03 AM PDT

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  •  Changing minds (4+ / 0-)

    I believe that the real challenge today is not so much changing minds about Republicans and conservatives, but changing minds about democrats.

    "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." --Samuel Johnson

    by joanneleon on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 03:20:51 AM PDT

  •  Many of the neo-cons I know are unreachable (7+ / 0-)

    because of the protections they surrond themselves with.  If they feel threatened or challenged the smears start. Deep inside they know there is something wrong with their party. But, thats all they have. They have built their identity on the words of Repubs. They don't want to talk, they want to belittle. Any ideas how to approach?

    "Though the Mills of the Gods grind slowly,Yet they grind exceeding small."

    by Owllwoman on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 03:47:25 AM PDT

    •  This is true -- there are few 'full-fledged' (3+ / 0-)

      neocons who are not rabidly tied to the dogma.

      Those are the ones to target.

      ...hopefully, they'll find a way to immunize others, and "infect" the ones who are too far gone for us to reach with something akin to a "cognitive disconnect awareness" that helps bring 'em back down to earth, and reality.

      (most of 'em are beyond even that small hope, I fear, but I do believe some may be reached and restored to a base degree of actual humanity)

      Never, never brave me, nor my fury tempt:
        Downy wings, but wroth they beat;
      Tempest even in reason's seat.

      by GreyHawk on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 04:00:15 AM PDT

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  •  A lot to consider, but worth it -- thanks for (11+ / 0-)

    putting it on the table and preparing a "banquet" of thoughtful ideas.

    If you want to make peace, you don't talk to your friends. You talk to your enemies.
        --  Moshe Dayan (1915 - 1981)

    That's something important which many folks forget.

    Never, never brave me, nor my fury tempt:
      Downy wings, but wroth they beat;
    Tempest even in reason's seat.

    by GreyHawk on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 03:58:00 AM PDT

  •  Basic guide to divide the GOP (5+ / 0-)

    Great article... check out David Brin's books too.

    To elaborate on splitting open the big tent...

    If you meet a Republican who is a resolute "social conservative" (i.e. not about to change their mind on abortion, etc.), focus on family finance instead:  they should be angry that nearly all the Bush tax breaks are helping millionaires and not regular people, and they should be very uncomfortable with the spendthrift policies documented in this article.

    If you meet the other kind of Republican - one who is mainly interested in reducing the size of government - again point out the Bush administration's ballooning bureaucracy, and also try to bring out their squeamishness at being forced to team up with radical fundamentalists.  

    The fundamentalist-plutocrat alliance can be broken, and I think it will.  When that happens, I see the religious right keeping the Republican party, and the big money contingent looking for another party to dominate - Democrats beware, who's to say it isn't happening already?  http://unitedagainsthillary.wordpres...

    "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." Mark Twain, as quoted by Barack Obama 6/30/08 Independence, MO.

    by SunWolf78 on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 04:53:25 AM PDT

  •  I only know 2 conservatives (1+ / 0-)

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    dangangry

    Even though I live in Texas, I'm in Austin, and I deliberately live in the most liberal part of town. Shop at a co-op, go to liberal churches. So I won't havea lot of opportunity to try these techniques. But I will keep them in mind & try them out when the opportunity comes up.

  •  The interesting part (1+ / 0-)

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    vickie feminist

    is that most of the "middle of the road" sort of conservatives I know are mostly on our side.  The hard core conservatives aren't listening to anything...they still like Bush.  I don't know how to talk to them because, for once in my life I cannot begin to see why.

    Usually I am able to see the other side of the argument, now I hear it, but I can't internalize it enough to understand where the hell they are coming from or what alternate universe they are living in.

    There are bagels in the fridge

    by Sychotic1 on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 08:39:05 PM PDT

  •  Can't we reach out to the uninformed? (0+ / 0-)

    I'm at an age when I simply want to slap the wingnuts.  So I do better with the poorly informed independent voter.
    (Pssst David, loved the Uplift books.)

  •  Got a cheat sheet? (1+ / 0-)

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    LNK

    You passion is admirable. Your detail is execerable. I'm guessing your thesis are beyond valid, but how the f--- would I know? I just got home from work, I'm tired. Either provide the short version of question and response talking points or consider the current exercise as a kind of JO session.

  •  About those animals.... (0+ / 0-)

    Some analogies worth understanding when it comes to behavior:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/...

    Keep in mind, too, that we humans live by emotions and mental pictures....not by intellect or rational thought.

    Best Diary of the Year? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/23/03912/3990

    by LNK on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 10:34:08 PM PDT

  •  Engaging Patriotic Conservatives to our cause (0+ / 0-)

    I agree with your premise 100%. And I believe that one way to really start solving the problems we humans face is to repudiate the authoritarians in a clear and explicit fashion.  Too many Republicans don't realize how perverted their party has become.  And too many decent conservative Christians do not know how they are being used.  There are many Republicans that are beginning to reject the extremism of their leaders because they really do believe and love the government our founders bequeathed us.  There are many evangelicals who are convinced that global warming is happening and decent Christians cannot just sit back when this type of threat faces the world.  They've recognized that Dobson's obsessions do not make sense and reality has intruded in their lives.  

    We need to work with these people and help encourage others who really believe in the Constitution or their obligation to the world to speak up about what they see and why they've decided to stand up in opposition to their leaders.  Many of them will become heroes in their communities.

    Heroes are very important in giving role models to ordinary people -- especially ones that remind us of what our better natures demand.  There are many who will refuse to listen, but surprisingly there are more than we might expect who will join us to rescue our country and our world.   Through their actions they truly become heroes.

    BTW: I love your books - they are wonderful in making one think of the deeper ethical aspects of life.  

    "The less satisfaction we derive from being ourselves, the greater is our desire to be like others." - Eric Hoffer

    by Mary on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 11:00:45 PM PDT

  •  Well Argued (0+ / 0-)

    One thing you hit on here, which I think should be a major campaign theme for the Democrats is that of "decline."  It's outrageous how slow the internet is in America.  It's ridiculous how crappy our health care system is.  It's unconscionable that we have generations being raised to question the very idea of objective truth (though truth be told postmodern lefties share some of the blame for this).

    I think lists of statistics about the rank of the US in categories before the Bush administration and after the Bush administration need to be prepared and hammered home.

    There is one thing that conservatives the world around hate and that is the idea that their tribe is losing ground.  They usually blame it on the liberals, and they will probably try to do so this time, but I think that there is the possibility of converting enough of these people to make a difference.

    I also think that we need to spread the idea that the US has gone from the world's only hyperpower to a third-world kleptocracy under the GOP.

    That won't sit well with the flag-waving types.  The more they can be made to feel that it is true, the more effective it will be in either converting or neutralizing them.

  •  The only chance of converting a republican (0+ / 0-)

    comes by cutting their cable and breaking their auto antenna and then taking them on a fishing trip for a couple weeks. You have very small odds against round-the-clock broadcast wingnuttery.

    "I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is over self." --Aristotle

    by java4every1 on Thu Aug 16, 2007 at 03:44:22 AM PDT

  •  Thanks from David Brin (0+ / 0-)

    Many great comments and some of you would be welcome additions at: http://www.davidbrin.blogspot.com/

    (When I resume there in September)  It's a lively community.

    I am glad this hard work was rewarded with a brief front page.

    I KNOW this missive was vastly too long.  It is offered here as a RESOURCE for folks to refer to, in gathering the will and determination and arguments to use with these crucial wavering Republicans.

    Alas, if Hillary is nominated, all our "ostrich" work will be for nothing. Rove's tent will re-fill with utter ferocity.  Sad (it's not her fault) but true.

    Just remember to talk about a restored and renewed conservatism.  One with honor restored, after having been hijacked by monsters.

    Things to repeat: "CITOKATE -- Criticism Is The Only Known Antidote to Error." "IAAMOAC -- I Am A Member of a Civilization"

    by David Brin on Thu Aug 16, 2007 at 10:56:24 AM PDT

  •  Thoughts from the other side... (1+ / 0-)

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    chassler

    The wonderful torrrent of ideas that is a David Brin diary... I started to reply to this and the letter got so long that I turned it into a diary entry myself, albeit a slightly shorter one.

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    To be brief, some responses here were cynical about the possibility of splitting off Goldwater Republicans. I am one, and I'm planning to vote Democratic for the first time. My 83-year-old father grew up white in a very segregated city in the South, has never voted for a Democrat in his long life, and he's a major fan of Barack Obama. People may be more open to change than you think.

    Part of the problem isn't your message, but the way it is often presented. If you insult or demean someone you're talking politics with, you need not expect them to support you even if  they have a sneaking suspicion that you're right. You may nudge them over to apathy or cynicism, but I can't see how you would count that as a victory for your party or our society...  

  •  I'm so sorry (0+ / 0-)

    I missed this diary the first time around.  

    Well done.

    Thanks.

  •  I just had a look at (0+ / 0-)

    your profile because I wondered about your name.  I have many of your books, bought when you first started publishing.  

    How delightful to find you here as well.

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