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Why Obama is the ONE. He is visionary.

Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 07:24:40 PM PDT

The Tom Peters Seminar by iconoclastic business guru Tom Peters (In Search of Excellence;Thriving On Chaos;etc lays out the business model for the future. Dailykos has exemplified it perfectly and we all have experience with it here. Peters is saying the new model is revolution not change, not incremental adjustments, but permanent and continuing revolution! The world is in a whole new ballgame and corporations will have to enter the revolution or they will perish in the world market. Command and control can no longer work. Remember how Apple used to lead the pack and how exhilirating it was to watch them? At Yearly Kos Kos stated that this was to be the last yearly kos and that it was too big for just one site. Netroots Nation was born and Kos said he was now obsolete. This is what Peters means!And Kos did it with trust not command and control. Kos was the gateopener not the gatekeeper.

And let us never forget the example of Howard Dean And the importance of reaching for the moon and inviting failure which is a part of this entirely new paradigm.

Now make the great leap foward:

The very latest example is the young teen George Hotz who spent his summer before college hacking the iphone to detach it from AT&T and hitch it up to T-Mobile, a legal endeavor. He is auctioning the hacked iphone on ebay and it is currently going for $3000. Not a big summer haul but certainly respectable, not to mention the experience.

Now here's the important part that fits in with Peters. Hotz did it with the help of two Russians online and two US people online whose ID's are the only way he knows them.

The new business model is a group of experts coming together for a project, completing it and dissolving. Maybe they will work together in the future, maybe not. But folks, corporations are going to have to revolutionize the way they do business and follow in Hotz's footsteps or they are going to perish.

The essential ingredient is trust not command and control. Isn't this great? Do you see how this is going to change the psychology of all business people, employers and employees alike? How the authoritarian personality cannot survive in this environment. How command and control will wither and die.

Which is why Obama is the ONE as he is about the future, he is the visionary, He is about opportunity! And not hard to see why considering his background. He is bringing it to us. Hillary's experience is about change, incremental adjustments and playing it safe. Can't cut loose from command and control corporate money, can she? She can't take The Great Leap Foward. As Peters quotes, You cannot leap a chasm in two jumps now can you? Obama is flying high. He represents the American dream. He does not carry the slavery and civil rights warhorse baggage. He is a new phenomenon on the stage of American politics and he stands for the future, for opportunity, not the protectionist past. He is the political model as Hotz is the new entrepreneurial scientific model. Hotz plans to major in neuroscience, "hacking the brain" as he calls it.

John Edwards is so very admirable. But his business stance is inherently protectionist. Bring American jobs back, strengthen the unions, etc. And it just isn't going to work in the new world order. We have been cut loose and are now in competition for our lives with China, Malaysia, South America, India to name just a few. We cannot return to unwieldy bureaucracies, even good union ones,because permanent revolution is the new model. For business, education, art (where it has always been the model) and politics. Chavez is trying something very new in South America. We may not quite like it but it is revolutionary. Castro now seems so very yesterday.

And so does Hillary.

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  •  In Re Diary title reference. (2+ / 0-)

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    I've met "The One". I've seen all his mobies, and Obama - you're no Keanu.

    "Impeach the Cheerleader, save the world!"

    by deepfish on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 07:29:29 PM PDT

  •  Does anyone else find it scary as hell... (8+ / 0-)

    ...when Democrats start talking about The Great Leap Forward?  Shivers...

    And while people keep telling me what candidate is my daddy and which candidate is the ONE, I keep waiting for the diary that says "So-and-so would not be a terrible President".  That's what I'm realistically looking for.  Since I know who my daddy is and know better than that any politician is my ONE.

    The urge to save humanity is almost always a false face for the urge to rule it. ~ H.L. Mencken

    by Jay Elias on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 07:29:36 PM PDT

  •  Please tell me this is snark (4+ / 0-)

    Daily Kos used to be worthwhile.

    by andgarden on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 07:33:00 PM PDT

  •  I actually don't find "visionary"... (6+ / 0-)

    ...to be much of a plus in a presidential candidate.

    I mean one could easily argue that Kucinich is a "visionary" but that doens't mean he can turn his "vision" into reality.  Hell, one could easily argue that Bush is a "Visionary" but, again, cna't get his vision to synch with reality.

    I would much rather balance high ideals with practicality.  Too much of either is not good.  I am just not yet convinced that Obama has a practical strategy to acheive his goals.

    I like Obama, I think he's a great speaker, I just don't know if there's substance (or enough substance) behind his "vision".

    You are entitled to express your opinion. But you are NOT entitled to agreement.

    by DawnG on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 07:37:06 PM PDT

    •  No need to worry about Obama's (1+ / 0-)

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      substance----he is loaded with substance---ask those who know him best and who have known him the longest---who believe in him absolutely---and his vision for a new and better way.
       Substance?---You can cross it off your list.

      •  Ok, this comment doesn't actually (5+ / 0-)

        come close to proving anything.  Or even providing real evidence of anything.  "Ask the people who love and believe in him, they'll tell you he has sustance"?  Well, ok, but I'm sure that the same could be said of any of the presidential candidates.  Someone thinks each of them has substance and is the person for the job.

        Or was this snark?

        •  What I was trying to say Miz Laura---- (4+ / 0-)

          I guess not as clearly as you would have preferred------is that Obama has the respect and admiration of almost everyone whom he has met along the way----many are with him now in his campaign----many from college and Harvard Law, who saw someone special and something special within him----many highly respected people, who have become greatly impressed with the quality AND
          SUBSTANCE of this man.  Many skeptics in Chicago and Illinois, many who were not inclined to like a Democrat----of any kind----were won over by his authenticity and sincerity and in his potential to change the whole landscape of this country---they became believers in his quest.  And that is not exaggerating.  I have read tribute after tribute after tribute here in Illinois.
           Hope this helps.  I don't know how to say it any clearer.
           

        •  Read about FDR and the New Deal (1+ / 0-)

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          He had no idea what it was going to look like. Just that it was going to be a New Deal!

          FUKUOKA: Part of my purpose is to create a society where no one has to do anything.PARACELSUS:So then, you wormy and lousy Sophist...

          by abbeysbooks on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 08:52:36 PM PDT

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        •  I reckon my mom would tell you I have ... (1+ / 0-)

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          ... substance, can I be President now?

      •  You don't have a wife like Michelle (1+ / 0-)

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        who goes out on her own to make speeches and does so so beautifully unless you have trust in those around you. I never get the feeling that his handlers are controlling him. Or that he would even think of letting them think about doing it.

        FUKUOKA: Part of my purpose is to create a society where no one has to do anything.PARACELSUS:So then, you wormy and lousy Sophist...

        by abbeysbooks on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 08:51:41 PM PDT

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    •  I don't think it's about having a laid out plan. (0+ / 0-)

      Remember JFK said, We are going to the moon! and then with that incredible goal in play, they figured out how to do it. Obama will do the same.

      FUKUOKA: Part of my purpose is to create a society where no one has to do anything.PARACELSUS:So then, you wormy and lousy Sophist...

      by abbeysbooks on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 08:05:34 PM PDT

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  •  I'm putting in for my raise (0+ / 0-)

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    Do you see how this is going to change the psychology of all business people, employers and employees alike?

    right now!

  •  I rec'd.... hesitantly.. (4+ / 0-)

    The first half of you Diary sounded nuts - but just interesting enough that I wanted to follow along to see where you were leading me. And to be honest, by the end  I still do not see how you tie this "new business model" in to Obama being the "One" - I agree that Obama is a fresh face, and that he represents something much much larger than just a Democrat in office -- But I don't see him coming out and exclaiming that all corporations need to be disolved and that the new working relationships are going to be even more global than before. Obama seems to be much more interested in changing the culture so that families are more functional and that government is more responsive to the needs of all its citizens.

    Having built one wall of text said all that, I did rec this because others may read this and see more than I did. Mostly I'd like more dialog before I decide whether my rec stays or goes.

    Flowers Bloom for my Ex - though Honeybees are pretty cool too.

    by Yoshi En Son on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 07:38:27 PM PDT

    •  Thanks. The corporate part is a metaphor (0+ / 0-)

      I don't mean to say that Obama is going to do that. When JFK came in such energy and intelligence came to this country that he had no idea was connected to him. In a documentary about civil rights and all the marches, he says,"What is giving these people these ideas?" And someone says, "You are, Mr. President, you are."

      And when FDR campaigned for the New Deal, he didn't know how he was going to instrument it. Everything was an experiement and drawn up that way. Public housing where those who were going to live in it came to the table to say what they wanted. And all his people wanted to work that way. Flexible with no preplanned written in stone here's how to do it. This is what we are going to get with Hilary. She is a high authoritarian. She runs her campaign that way, and her public profile. She is not spontaneous at all. Nor is she creative. And we are entering a time when a Type A personality is not going to hack it. We don't need hard and fast rules, because everything is changing under our feet.

      This is what the most creative of the corporations have had to accept. Remember when GM cut loose its Saturn division, and how Saturn came up with a great car. It was an independent division that did not have to keep coming backd to the GM bigwigs to get OK's. Please read Peters. It will take you by the set of your pants and throw you up in the air.

      And I think Obama and his wife are doing that to the voters.

      There comes a time when experience is not going to do it because it is experience with the old way.

      Long live Howard Dean for how he showed us how to do it.

      FUKUOKA: Part of my purpose is to create a society where no one has to do anything.PARACELSUS:So then, you wormy and lousy Sophist...

      by abbeysbooks on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 08:16:28 PM PDT

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  •  All your Web2.0 are belong to us (0+ / 0-)

    Just as soon as the Ossetia war broke out, Dubya canceled a trip to Atlanta . . .

    by Bill White on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 07:41:24 PM PDT

  •  I too support Obama (4+ / 0-)

    But I find this "The ONE" language a little creepy.  Jon Stewart recently made of fun of this type of Obama worship when he had "Hallelujah" played everytime he mentioned his name. (That was the episode where Obama was a guest).

  •  you had me (1+ / 0-)

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    until the Chavez thing.  Chavez is the ultimate protectionist, regressive, and unitary authority.  You say he is "trying something new", sorry, the last thing he is doing is trying something new.  In fact, this is tried in Central and South America all the time and always gets the same result.

    Anyway, other than the Chavez non sequitor, you are right about the challenges and changes in our world that our politicians can not "protect us" from.  anway, you get a recco.

    •  What I think, IMHO, about Chavez is that he (1+ / 0-)

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      is taking a time in his country when there is the possibility of great wealth from the oil and does not plan to squander it on gold faucets, fantastic residences, and create squalor for his people as has been done in the middle east.

      Any mid east scholar says that the mid eastern people are worse off now than they were in the 70's. All that wealth has not been used with any intelligence. I think Chavez knows this and also knows that it could happen to his country and he is going to do what he has to do to prevent that.

      But we will see. He sure talks the talk but let's see how he walks.

      FUKUOKA: Part of my purpose is to create a society where no one has to do anything.PARACELSUS:So then, you wormy and lousy Sophist...

      by abbeysbooks on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 08:25:18 PM PDT

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  •  I was with up until i saw (1+ / 0-)

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    the Tom Peters bit.

    That guy is full of it.

    With him from the beginning, with him until the end.

    by brooklynbadboy on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 08:01:18 PM PDT

  •  wow (1+ / 0-)

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    Hey, to each his own, but I'll be chilling over here waiting to hear the details of this ongoing revolution.

    I prefer peace Wouldn't have to have one worldly possession But essentially I'm an animal So just what do I do with all the aggression?

    by jbou on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 08:07:54 PM PDT

  •  Obama "the One"? Come on.... (1+ / 0-)

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    I like Obama.  he's going to be a power player on the scene for years to come.

    But I just don't think 2008 is his year.

    maybe 2012 or 2016.  But 2008, nope. he's just too raw.

    When a presidential candidate starts ruminating out loud, in public, about the use of nuclear weapons, that's not reflective of "the One" it is reflective of a candidate that is still getting his political bearings and figuring out how to deal effectively with the intense scrutiny of public life.

    The interesting thing is that I think he could probably do better in a general election then Hillary but that comes with a big asterisk next to it, because for all his likeabilty freshness, newness and vision that he brings to the table, it is offset by his lack of political saavy and experience which would help him avoid all the magnified pitfalls, attacks and traps that he would be subjected to in the general election campaign.

    "Do not mistake for conspiracy and intrigue what can best be explained by stupidity and incompetence." - anonymous

    by Bowa on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 08:09:05 PM PDT

    •  Then you would not have fit in in the New Deal (1+ / 0-)

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      because that's exactly what it was. Nobody had any idea what they were doing or if it would work. They were all trying something new and flying by the seat of their pants.

      And to be truthful here, the war pulled us out of the depression. Depressions are very much psychological. People hoard, won't let go of their money, and won't buy anything. Unlike inflation where you want to buy it because it's going to be more expensive tomorrow.

      Then at the end of the war, where we had rescued Europe, beat back the fascist tide and emerged as the strongest nation in the world, why we could do anything. And that was the feeling.

      I felt it when I was in China almost 15 years ago. The energy to make money and the freedom to be allowed to do it was palpable. Almost like a carnival walking the streets.

      FUKUOKA: Part of my purpose is to create a society where no one has to do anything.PARACELSUS:So then, you wormy and lousy Sophist...

      by abbeysbooks on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 08:33:04 PM PDT

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      •  I'm not sure if I understand (1+ / 0-)

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        You seem to think that because Obama would be "trying something new" and "flying by the seat" of our pants, that should be a substitute for effective leadership, realistic goals and political savvy and experience

        I disagree.

        Think the exciting and inspiring vision of all truly great political figures is always tempered by the sober understanding that such charisma and passion is not reckless but is a product of competance, confidence and experience.

        And t many of Obama's recent comments in speeches and debates have led me to believe that Obama is not "the One"  but a 'work in progress" that has not yet bloomed.

        "Do not mistake for conspiracy and intrigue what can best be explained by stupidity and incompetence." - anonymous

        by Bowa on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 08:52:48 PM PDT

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        •  Study FDR's New Deal because they were (0+ / 0-)

          flying by the seat of their pants. It was experimental all the way. Jazz. Improvisation. Learning by doing. But coming from a bedrock of expertise.

          Wes Jackson talks about this when he was in FDR's New Deal with the agriculture department. A lot of it was talking, persuading, convincing people to try something else but slash and burn.

          FUKUOKA: Part of my purpose is to create a society where no one has to do anything.PARACELSUS:So then, you wormy and lousy Sophist...

          by abbeysbooks on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 09:24:24 PM PDT

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          •  Jazz? (0+ / 0-)

            It was experimental all the way. Jazz. Improvisation. Learning by doing. But coming from a bedrock of expertise.

            I have a lot of trouble supporting a candidate whose strength is that he is "improvising" his positions all the time like "Jazz""

            And hate to say it but I don't think "bedrock of expertise" and "Barack Obama" go together.  At this time at least.

            He's a first term Senator.  He has a very interesting background, has written two inspired books, and is an exciting charismatic political figure.

            Did I mention he is a first term Senator.  With no governing experience at all.  And he is running in his first national campaign.  

            He's a work in Progress.  I will be excited to see how he learns and grows over the next 4 or 8 years when he could really be ready, and in position to lead this nation as its President.

            "Do not mistake for conspiracy and intrigue what can best be explained by stupidity and incompetence." - anonymous

            by Bowa on Mon Aug 27, 2007 at 04:31:23 AM PDT

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            •  Then I suggest you read the history (0+ / 0-)

              of the New Deal under FDR. It was admitted that none of them had any idea as to how to instrument the New Deal. It was all fly by the seat of their pants. They experiemented with every department and the people involved. They were all intelligent, committed, articulate and they figured it out.

              There really can be no new plan when just about everything has to be changed. Like the Cuba speech. No one really anticipated it would be welcomed by the Cuban Americans.

              Gore could have done it in 2000. I am sure he is sensible enough to feel the same way that the present policy is not working. Clinton could have tried to change it when he was in.

              The other candidates do not want to open a can of worms.

              Well Obama just opened it and now what are the rest of them going to do?

              It will be interesting to see.

              And I am sure Obama has other things to say that he would like to see changed drastically. I expect he will announce them in time. The others are going to have to run to keep up. Hillary will criticize of course.

              FUKUOKA: Part of my purpose is to create a society where no one has to do anything.PARACELSUS:So then, you wormy and lousy Sophist...

              by abbeysbooks on Mon Aug 27, 2007 at 01:05:50 PM PDT

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            •  Oh and that marvelous illitrate peasant (0+ / 0-)

              who became emperor of Japan. I forget his name and when but he was a very great ruler and don't tell me he had a plan all worked out.

              There are brilliant people in the dem party. Give them a go and let them brainstorm. This rotten structure has to come down. And Obama and Edwards are taking the first step following Dean by not going after big money. And big money is quaking for the first time since FDR began to let his cat out of the bag.

              FUKUOKA: Part of my purpose is to create a society where no one has to do anything.PARACELSUS:So then, you wormy and lousy Sophist...

              by abbeysbooks on Mon Aug 27, 2007 at 01:09:11 PM PDT

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            •  Obama as president would unleash such (0+ / 0-)

              creative energy in this country that you won't believe it. It will be the new zeitgeist, the real 21st century held back by Bush.

              Corporations will brim with creative energy and if they don't they will perish. People acting with creative energy stop being interested in command and control.

              Somethin's Blowin' in the Wind!

              FUKUOKA: Part of my purpose is to create a society where no one has to do anything.PARACELSUS:So then, you wormy and lousy Sophist...

              by abbeysbooks on Mon Aug 27, 2007 at 01:11:50 PM PDT

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  •  What's his vision? (1+ / 0-)

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    Telling me several times that he is the ONE and he is visionary doesn't give me any reason to be convinced of anything in his favor.  One of the common questions about Obama is whether he's just charismatic or whether there's a there there.  This diary isn't particularly charismatic (though there's certainly a lot of BOLD!) but there also isn't a there here.

    •  I think Obama is primarily a person (0+ / 0-)

      who learns by discovery. As Jerome Bruner talks about in his philosophy and education books. I don't see his starting out as a young student and planning to be president. As one gets the idea Bill Clinton did, at least when he was a Rhodes scholar and running for class president right off the plane.

      I think he believes that he and other very intelligent and spontaneous people can figure out new ways.

      The minds that got us into this are not the minds that are going to get us out of it.- Einstein paraphrased.

      And when he was very young I think his optimistic outlook enabled him to try and do things he had not planned carefully. I mean look how he started out. Not in your typical bourgois family.

      Sort of like Kos. I don't think he ever sat down and said, "I'm going to make the best and most important web site of its kind on the internet. I think he just took it, perfected it and ran with it. He did more of what worked and less of what didn't. And whether kos has read Peters or not, he has followed his model here. The big part is the trust he has in people here. I think Obama has that trust in people he works with. And if a screw up or failure is part of that, and it is, he is not afraid to fail. Hilary is.

      FUKUOKA: Part of my purpose is to create a society where no one has to do anything.PARACELSUS:So then, you wormy and lousy Sophist...

      by abbeysbooks on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 08:42:59 PM PDT

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    •  Obama's Vision (1+ / 0-)

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      or atleast what I gather it to be from reading, is to give hope back to the American people.

      Yes, I know that doesn't sound like much - but in fact it is everything.  Imagine life with no hope, if a politician can give you hope - isn't that worth something?  The real question is, "How?". And to answer that - I look to the very fist topic on his own webpage, for that is a good place to look for what is dearest to a person's own heart: Ending poverty.

      Sure, he goes on about security, war on Iraq, the environmen, etc.  But his primary goal is insuring that families are able to care for themselves and that healthcare is available.

      While the mass media is mostly concerned with what the politicians are saying about the war and security - even now Obama is keeping his eye on strengthening the families and communities.

      He shows that he preffers dialog to conflict when dealing with those with whom we disagree (look at his stance on Cuba, Iran, Syria), but that he will take action against those who have committed crimes against us (If Pakistan won't do something we will).  

      He shows that he is a real person who has made some bad choices and is willing to talk about them - Use of drugs admitted - unlike many politicians, even popular ones, who feel they must LIE to cover their own asses (I didn't inhale).

      He has had a very interesting childhood, a father from Africa, mother from Kansas, Growing up in Indonesia, all of which has obviously had an impact and given him life experiences which none of the other candidates can come close to.

      Obama is clearly the most dedicated to his beliefs of the candidates, and while I personally am not - and never will be - a Christian, I recognize that his faith will help many voters identify with him.

      He is clearly a family man who puts his faith, family, and community above his own personal ambitions - this I believe to be true 100%.

      Is Obama perfect? No, but atleast he is willing to admit his actions and not lie or try to shrug them off on someone else.

      Flowers Bloom for my Ex - though Honeybees are pretty cool too.

      by Yoshi En Son on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 11:46:56 PM PDT

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      •  Amen. don't know if that is appropriate but (0+ / 0-)

        it felt right.

        I think this about him too and like the way you said it.

        FUKUOKA: Part of my purpose is to create a society where no one has to do anything.PARACELSUS:So then, you wormy and lousy Sophist...

        by abbeysbooks on Mon Aug 27, 2007 at 12:26:28 AM PDT

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  •  Visionary to verbalize this (1+ / 0-)

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    There are some very capable Republicans who I have a great deal of respect for," Obama said in an interview with The Associated Press. "The opportunities are there to create a more effective relationship between parties."

    Among the Republicans he would seek help from are Sens. Richard Lugar of Indiana, John Warner of Virginia and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, Obama said

    Now perhaps he knows something about Sen. Coburn that the rest of us don't know but what help do you think he'll get in that quarter.

    Democrats, Make it Work. You have until November to bring your electorate in.

    by xanthe on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 08:18:37 PM PDT

    •  I have no idea (1+ / 0-)

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      but I taught in a free school once. I was there because they had gotten rid of two teachers by September and the principal couldn't think of anyone else who might want to and be able to take this class of second and third graders on.

      Until Christmas I thought it would kill me and I was getting ready to call it quits. Adopting a non-authoritarian approach is close to inviting disaster, as Gorbachev well knows now. But I had A.S. Neill covering my back and I believed what he said and that he was correct. So I did it.

      I had no plan, could never have imagined what happened and in fact did not know each day what would happen. It was glorious in its results. And I know as adults that those students whose hearts I saw into and encouraged are who they are today because of that year. And so am I.

      And when I looked at their IQ's at the end of the year, almost all were very average. I thought they all were geniuses. Shows how much I know!

      FUKUOKA: Part of my purpose is to create a society where no one has to do anything.PARACELSUS:So then, you wormy and lousy Sophist...

      by abbeysbooks on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 08:49:09 PM PDT

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  •  I'll tell you what's scary... (1+ / 0-)

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    Your dismisal of John Edwards because he supports American industry is frightening.

    This "new world order" or "flat world" as your fellow free trader Tom Friedman would say, does not warrant the destruction of good paying, middle class union jobs. Edwards passion on this issue is more than legitimte and he understands the dangers of a dissipating middle class better than any other candidate.

    I echo the calls for a big tent that includes social conservatives but it pains me to see Democrats who spew this Tom Friedman garbage about this so called "new world order."  

    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" -8.25, -7.54

    by dem4evr on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 08:54:32 PM PDT

    •  I'm not dismissing him as I think he is wonderful (0+ / 0-)

      It's just that those jobs are not coming back. We have entered a new world of innovation now and unions are going to have to drastically change to fit in. I'm not happy about it but I think it is reality. We are not going to make kthings cheaper than the Chinese. What is the point of trying to shave a little bit off the cost or make the product a little bit better. It's not going to work.

      OUr education has concentrated on learning how to become stupid. Now we have a lot of stupid people out there who spent a long time in school learning how to be that way.

      Did you ever see a young baby that you thought was stupid? Not me. Someone has to work very hard to make that happen.

      We could have a revolution in education if we would focus on learning and motivation. Anyone at any time could turn around and make the jump.

      I went to a suburban school outside of Philadelphia that when I was in third grade had been rated among the top five in the country. I shudder to think what the rest were like. So much wasted time to learn shit.

      When Dienes, a mathematician who turned his mind to math ed, started with three year olds at the University of Cherbourg in Canada and by 10 years of age they were scoring perfect 800's in the SAT's in math. I remember I couldn't do more than three questions on that part of the SAT. There's the model. Why in the fuck isn't it copied? We know. Political. It would put all the math textbooks out of business. Too bad. Just like a farmer's market in our square park would put the knife to the throat of our lousy supermarket. I have got to stop here.

      FUKUOKA: Part of my purpose is to create a society where no one has to do anything.PARACELSUS:So then, you wormy and lousy Sophist...

      by abbeysbooks on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 09:35:25 PM PDT

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  •  Does that vision include nukes? (1+ / 0-)

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    This guy is way overrated.   Could he even make one tenth the speech Edwards made attacking corporate America today?

    I doubt it.

    Barack IS corporate America.  The man says we can't have single payer because it would put insurance executives out of a job.   Well, that's priorities for you!

    Obama used to be for single payer before he came out against it.

    by formernadervoter on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 10:55:41 PM PDT

    •  That's the fallout of single payer (0+ / 0-)

      and it will be heavy but it is going to be done. Obama is a listener and that's what people want. To get the insurance piggies out of there.

      And besides he's not going to do it, congress is.

      I don't think the problem is corporate America but in the structure of corporate America. It is going to have to change or perish. It cannot survive under command and control anymore. It's a dead dinosaur.

      Obama is going to bring new energy into govt and this country. People are going to be spontaneous in imitation of him. You may not remember the 60's but that is what JFK brought to this country and why his assassination was so mourned.

      Read the diary above about what he has said about Cuba. The embargo hasn't worked for 45 years. Time to try something different. And if health care isn't working, why it will have to change.

      Or we can travel to Cuba to get health care. 0.15 a prescription instead of $150? Who needs health care with access to that? Snarking.

      FUKUOKA: Part of my purpose is to create a society where no one has to do anything.PARACELSUS:So then, you wormy and lousy Sophist...

      by abbeysbooks on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 11:40:46 PM PDT

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    •  Edwards is wonderful. (0+ / 0-)

      And Obama is going to capture the imagination and passion of the people who vote on emotional gut response. The people who voted for JFK when Nixon was the one with experience.

      FUKUOKA: Part of my purpose is to create a society where no one has to do anything.PARACELSUS:So then, you wormy and lousy Sophist...

      by abbeysbooks on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 11:42:28 PM PDT

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