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Whither the Farm Bill Now?

Mon Aug 06, 2007 at 11:34:39 AM PDT

I took a farm bill break, and so did most people for a few days after the House passed it on July 27 (its passage is reported here in haiku form). But it's worth taking stock of where we stand, with the Senate due to take up the bill in September, after the recess.

The House put together a bill which was much like the 2002 farm bill in its essentials, particularly in its approach to subsidies, but did manage to include funding for a number of desirable new programs and increase nutrition spending. Both the Environmental Working Group (statement via Mulch) and Pelosi credit the failed Kind/Flake amendment for creating pressure to depart even minimally from the status quo, with EWG suggesting the amendment was "sufficiently threatening to the subsidy lobby to leverage increased funding for conservation, nutrition, organic agriculture, specialty crops, minority farmers and many other priorities."

There were a couple of positive things about the bill that I haven't yet noted. Dan Morgan, on FarmPolicy.com, says: "The big losers in closed-door deal making that went on in Pelosi’s office until the wee hours last Thursday morning were the oil and gas industry and the crop insurance industry. Their lobbyists were caught short, but there is plenty of time for them to regroup as the bill goes to the Senate and then to a final House-Senate conference." Why were the lobbyists upset? The federal share of private crop insurance administrative costs was reduced, and new fees were imposed on deepwater oil and gas wells. I can get behind those changes.

Also, organics got some additional funds in the House farm bill, including $50 million over the next five years in assistance payments to farmers in the process of converting to organic. Since conversion is a slow and arduous process, with certification (and premium prices) only coming after several years of increased investment, this is a welcome form of aid, though the amount spent this way would ideally be larger.

So what can we expect from the Senate in September? Despite a slimmer Democratic majority, the Senate Agriculture Committee chairman, Sen. Tom Harkin of Iowa, is considered to be more sympathetic to progressive alternatives than House chairman Collin Peterson (D-MN). The San Francisco Chronicle proclaimed him "friendlier to conservation and nutrition programs" and noted his support of "tougher payment limits." In particular, Harkin will be looking to bring back the Conservation Security Program he was instrumental in creating, funding for which was neglected in the House bill. He has indicated that he supports the tax proposal, closing a loophole for foreign corporations, that created so much furor during the House passage of the bill.

What can we hope for and work for?

The Food Research and Action Center urges us to use the August recess "to educate Senators about the importance of Farm Bill nutrition title investments." That is, preserve the modest funding increases passed by the House; given their modestness, perhaps even improve upon them (hey, we can dream). If anti-hunger efforts are important to you, this is a good time to craft a letter to your Senator.

Despite the disagreements within the progressive blogosphere over the Kind/Flake amendment and its merits or dangers, one thing everyone (even, somewhat frighteningly, Bush; but with the surprising exception of Barbara Boxer) seems to agree on after passage of the House bill is that payment caps remain too high (currently, $1 million in farm earnings in order to be disqualified for subsidies). This should be a major focus of efforts as the bill goes to the Senate in September, something both liberals and conservatives agree on (for different reasons)-- a no-brainer. Sen. Grassley (R-IA) and Sen. Dorgan (D-ND) are planning a bipartisan push for lower income caps ($250K instead of $1 million), and we should urge our senators to support this effort. Since Bush wants this too, lower income caps might also reduce the likelihood of the threatened presidential veto.

Another surprising place where one might find oneself agreeing with the Bush administration over the Democratic House’s farm bill: international food aid. Shipping surplus food overseas, with its associated energy costs, waste, and distribution challenges, doesn’t make sense. Helping to shore up local farm economies in developing countries does. I wish they’d stop calling it "Mr. Bush’s idea"; it’s not like he invented it. But why was this dropped from the House bill? Can it be revived in the Senate?
A couple of other legislative matters to follow, and consider whether you'll support:

Democrats Dick Durbin of Illinois and Sherrod Brown of Ohio will be introducing the Farm Safety Net Improvement Act of 2007. Discussed here, the legislation would change the structure of subsidies to be allocated, not purely based on crop prices, but also on yield. Structuring payments in this way would aid farmers who have a bad year despite high prices, and discourage over-production when prices are low. Durbin and Brown also support the $250K income cap. Here’s a bill overview (.pdf) from the American Farmland Trust, who support the measure. [update: I can't get this link to work, guys, but their site is farmland.org.]

If you were a fan of the Kind/Flake amendment in the House, the whole matter is likely to be revisited. Dick Lugar (R-IN) supports a version of the Kind amendment. Again, the whole farm bill debate is a dance of strange bedfellows, and Farm Bill Girl at Daily Kos has often pointed to Lugar's far-from-progressive, pro-free-trade ideological reasons for supporting the amendment as proof that it's dangerous.

The Senate is also due to take up the Iraq war later in September, which may leave only a short period available for real debate on the farm bill. Harkin is hinting that the current bill may need to be extended for a few months until the new one is finished. However, the House floor debate lasted less than 24 hours, and we should be prepared for the alternative possibility of things getting pushed through quickly. The timing of the August recess gives us the opportunity to gear up for whichever parts of this fight we deem most crucial.

Meanwhile, Tom Philpott over at Grist talks about work-arounds: how to transcend the evils of the inevitably flawed farm bill by forming local production and distribution networks.

Credit to FarmPolicy.com, as usual, for pointing to a bunch of these links. The Ethicurean's round-ups are indispensable too.

(Cross-posted at Cherry River Fishing Access.)

Tags: farm bill, food, farming, subsidies, Tom Harkin, Rescued (all tags) :: Previous Tag Versions

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  •  once again great job! n/t (2+ / 0-)

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    renaissance grrrl, blueness

    ..."For beauty," I replied. "And I for truth,-the two are one; We brethren are"... E. Dickinson

    by peagreen on Mon Aug 06, 2007 at 11:44:09 AM PDT

  •  you bet (4+ / 0-)

    I live in Wa-05 and I want info cause I live in the big city of Spokane. McMorris Rodgers, our little orchardist, voted against this (no surprise) so I like to keep track of just what she is in favor of (lol).

    ..."For beauty," I replied. "And I for truth,-the two are one; We brethren are"... E. Dickinson

    by peagreen on Mon Aug 06, 2007 at 11:49:49 AM PDT

  •  Do you have any information (3+ / 0-)

    about Jon Tester? Might he make things more interesting than usual?

  •  Did you see or hear (0+ / 0-)

    Sec. Mike Johanns' talk to the National Press Club July 29?

    At C-SPAN, it's on page 9 of my link right now, it will move to page 10, then to page 11, etc., with time.

  •  Thanks renaissance grrrl (6+ / 0-)

    Wow, who cares about the Farm Bill? I heard it mentioned on hate radio a couple of weeks ago, in passing.......oh, yeah, they're voting on the farm bill thing today.....yawn......
    This seems to be one thing almost everybody who leans left has in common with the wingers. They must think food grows in the can at the factory in China.
    Meanwhile, the farms here in SW Va are getting chopped up for development, because the small farmers are just too tired of working at the remaining widget factories during the week so that they can continue to farm after dark and on weekends.

    Hands off my Social Security, John McCain.

    by emmasnacker on Mon Aug 06, 2007 at 01:56:39 PM PDT

  •  Where is energy ... (3+ / 0-)

    in terms of the Farm Bill?

    Anything (non biofuel) of meaning?

    PS:  Ones like this really should go to DKos Environmentalists.  I sent it out to them.

  •  Subsidy is as subsidy does... (3+ / 0-)

    Something I'm wondering about is how to get progressives to distinguish good subsidies from bad subsidies.  It's not like there is only one kind, yet the MSM generally talks about them in an oversimplified way.

    Thoughts?

    (BTW, great diary!)

    •  Well, (3+ / 0-)

      there is certainly lots of debate about what constitutes a sensible subsidy: which crops (it seems we'll be extending to support to fruit and vegetable growers, which is good), which size of farmers (e.g. the struggle over the income cap), and how subsidies should be structured (e.g. see the Farm Safety Net Improvement Act discussion above-- seems to me this is legislation worth a look).

      There's too much to really put in a comment here, nor do I know or understand even a small fraction of what there is to know!

      •  Values and principles of subsidies? (1+ / 0-)

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        stonemason, CSI Bentonville

        One way I am thinking about subsidies is through the lens of our vision of society.

        If our goal is to create a market-based society that runs on the profit motive, there is a philosophy of subsidies that will emerge.

        If our goal is to create a community-based society that promotes healthy foods and environmental stewardship, a different philosophy will emerge.

        What do you think about the ways we think about long-term goals?  We can draw upon key principles like:

        1.  The common good principle, which says there is a shared infrastructure of common wealth that benefits everyone
        1.  The human dignity principle, which says there is basic worth in every person so we need to be sure everyone is nourished and well fed

        Applied to farm policy, we will get a sense of how to feed people, provide satisfactory quality of life to farmers, and promote local communities (farmer's market, anyone?)

        What do you think?

        •  "What do I think," meaning what is my opinion? (2+ / 0-)

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          stonemason, edison

          :)  I think that we should be doing whatever is necessary to create and sustain local, community food systems that work, and that should mean helping small farmers sharing those values to succeed if they need financial assistance.  Everyone knows the system is rigged against their success as it stands now, and there is no shame in supporting them with public monies.  

          I don't want subsidies to simply support the large monoculture operations that are creating an unhealthy, unsustainable food culture and food economy.

          And then there are the farmers somewhere in between, which is where arguments about exactly what the payment cap should be come in.

          There are different reasons for getting rid of traditional subsidies.  Some on the left want reform because they think it will achieve what you and I would both like to see; some on the right, of course, want reform because they see subsidies as a form of "welfare," and they oppose public support on principle as a matter of free-market ideology.  This makes for strange and tricky alliances.  We've been arguing about this quite a bit on dKos-- don't remember if you've been involved.

        •  good philosophies (3+ / 0-)

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          The Maven, stonemason, edison

          we still shouldn't have subsidies. we should have corporations pay a fair price to farmers, so that diversified family farmers can stay in business, not just rancid factory farms. we should have farmers income come from the MARKETPLACE, not from taxpayers. and that government has a fundamental role in regulating the supply and market for the common good. leaving commodity prices to the "free market" is a recipe for disaster, both for poverty in the third world and here at home, due to our overproduction and dumping (which are NOT tied to subsidies, contrary to myth).

          the Durbin-Brown proposal on revenue insurance is a really hideously disappointing piece of "reform." it is sponsored by the likes of American Farmland Trust and and the National Corn Growers Association, both of whom are very corporate and pro-free trade. NCGA often has partnerships with Monsanto and Bayer.

          http://www.monsanto.com/...

          The American Corn Growers ASsociation is a progressive splinter group from NCGA of corn farmers who were sick of biotech-export oriented agriculture and wanted diversified family farmers. they endorse the price floor/supply management reform that gets rid of subsidies, but replaces it with a price floor (akin to a min. wage) to ensure farmers get a fair price from the market.

          so in between the strange left-right coalition that says "gut subsidies" "deregulate the market" is our progressive coalition that says, "eliminate subsidies, make ADM and ConAgra and Tyson pay farmers a fair price." Otherwise, you'll still get more factory farms and more consolidation.

      •  Durbin -Brown proposal (2+ / 0-)

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        The Maven, edison
        1. doesn't end dumping of our commdities into the third world
        1. doesn't deal with consolidated markets where 3 buyers control 85% of the corn market and how they screw farmers with low prices
        1. doesn't save money either, and it still based on a "Free trade" "free market" outlook. will still make ADM/Tyson/Smithfield happy since it's not a price floor that forces them to pay. Taxpayers still on hook for subsidies, just tied to revenue, not price.

        Why Sherrod Brown of all people, who never cared if strong labor or enviro laws are "trade distorting" is on this crappy bill sponsored by pro-free traders in bed with Monsanto is beyond me. i tend to think it's because he has an urban-labor background and is just generally ignorant about farm issues. Some Ohio farmers are very angry at him right now...

    •  not subsidies, price floors (4+ / 0-)

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      melo, The Maven, renaissance grrrl, edison

      i have tried to post about subsidies in my extended series to explain how they work and that farmers (the honest ones) do NOT want subsidies, but instead a fair price floor to make ADM/Cargill/Smithfield pay a fair price for their commodities.

      http://www.dailykos.com/...

      people have a great misunderstanding about subsidies and how they work (and this is due to the deliberately misleading work of Ken Cook and EWG). Farmers get subsidies, but it's really agribusiness (the buyers and processors like ADm/Cargill) who REALLY benefit, because they get access to cheap commodities because we let the "free market" determine price. in the New Deal era, we had a system based on "parity" to pay farmers a cost of production. nowadays, due to "free market" ideology, we let the "free market" determine prices, and taxpayers make up the difference. this is why factory farms get access to cheap feed and ADM gets to make cheap processed food. want to truly screw agribusiness? set a price floor. and then you get rid of the need for subsidies.

      so the MSM is correct when they say subsidies are a form of corporate welfare. they just blame the farmers for hogging the welfare, instead of the REAL welfare queens who have benefitted by the MILLIONS (namely, ADM/ConAgra, NOT millionaire cotton farmers). I'm not sure Renaissance Grrrl understands that we can debate payments limits all day long, and we can set caps all we want, but if that's your only reform, you are still not fundamentally altering agribusiness's stranglehood over the system.

      •  Farm Bill Girl (2+ / 0-)

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        The Maven, Farm Bill Girl

        my aim here was to review what I could discover about what were likely and realistic issues to come up in the Senate.  I think lower payment limits are a good idea and so does practically everybody else.  How that implies that it should be the only reform, and that I think it will fundamentally alter the entire agricultural system, I don't know.

        I don't think this farm bill is going to fundamentally alter anything, and I guess I've partially accepted that.  When I said, "what can we work for?", I meant within the limits of what seemed possible, given the bill that came out of the House and the Senate players involved.  If I'm missing something about some actual potential legislation that will be considered by the Senate, please let me know-- I'd like to know that.  Like the info on the competition title-- that's helpful, thank you.

        But I get a little tired, on the other hand, of continually being lectured about how each small thing one might consider whether to support is insufficient to fix the whole damn system.  As well as the constant "purity tests," where people can't ever share the opinion or even neutrally quote a group you don't approve of, or a group you DO approve of but which consorts with groups you don't approve of, or...  It's too late, isn't it?  For this year?  Too late for us all to come together from scratch and work up what we think the perfect farm legislation should be?  We ought to have done that earlier in this community, and frankly didn't; we've been behind the game.  But I'd like the freedom to focus, now, on what is happening and not what should be happening.  Hopefully this whole mess will inspire us to be more on-the-ball for the next go-round, and not start talking only once the legislation is about to be considered in Congress.

        •  right now... (1+ / 0-)

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          renaissance grrrl

          absolutely, we need to have a long term vision of fixing the system. And that will mean serious reform of the WTO and free trade ideology.

          i did not mean to look down on your really good work. I think there may be time to get in a strategic reserve since we right now have NONE, other than what Cargill holds. we're one drought away from $8 corn prices.

          SO for the short term, i would say getting mandatory funding for Community Food Projects, as OrangeClouds has discussed, and getting the competition title are the most key things I would look for in the Senate.

          thanks again for your great work. I do not mean to sound like a "purist", but it's just when i hear people say they want fundamental reform of our food policies and that reform = Kind-Flake-Lugar, you can hopefully understand my craziness, because I remember when Freedom to Farm passed in 1996 and how much that devastated rural America and how many thousands of farmers we lost in those few years, which will happen again should something like their "Reform" pass.

          •  Okay. :) (0+ / 0-)

            I was actually just in process of replying to your email-- I'll still go ahead and send that privately as it concerns identity stuff.  

            Look, I hear your frustration and I share it, and I appreciate your efforts to get past feel-good rhetoric about certain legislation and look at what the real impacts would (or wouldn't) be.

            But, I'll tell you the truth-- sorry for blowing up at you-- but in general I've been less able to absorb your points than I otherwise might be, because I've been put off by your tone.  I don't see any reason-- the number of people actually participating in farm discussions here is so small-- why things need to be so adversarial.

  •  #1 thing for progressive to FOCUS ON: COMPETITION (3+ / 0-)

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    melo, renaissance grrrl, edison

    The #1 issue that we need from the Senate, and for which there is faint hope for progressive reform, is a COMPETITION TITLE to directly address corporate agribusiness's control of livestock markets (i.e. factory farms).

    Peterson, because he is in bed with the National Pork Producers, National Chicken Council, Tyson, etc, was never keen on confronting industrial agriculture and our whole model of industrial livestock (i.e. factory farms). Harkin is much more progressive on this and has introduced several pieces of legislation over the years to address the lack of competition in the livestock market, so that you now have 4 meatpackers controlling 85% of the market! (Tyson, Swift) 4 hog corporations control over 60% of the market (Smithfield just merging with Premium Standard Farms will only make it worse). 4 chicken corporations control over 50% of the poultry market. This is why we have the cancer of fast food in our society and our addiction to cheap meat, fed with antibiotics and hormones, fed feed made of cord blood and dead animals and chicken shit, and is why we have ecoli outbreaks all over the place.

    So we have a REAL SHOT at victory on the competition issues. this is THE thing all Kossacks can help lobby folks on. It will be an extremely difficult fight, because we have a lot of Dems who are also in bed with corporate agribiz and we have some Republicans allies who are good on the antitrust/competition issues (Grassley, Enzi, Thune even).

    here are the portions of the competition title groups are working on:

    http://www.worc.org/...

    and it's these reforms which are most going to confront agribiz's power. and I wish the freakin religious groups and so-called progressives like Oxfam would quit demonizing subsidies all the time and look at the fundamental issue of corporate power in our agriculture markets. arguing over a few millionaire farmers in the South, vs Fortune 500 multinationals who are destroying rural America as well as countries abroad with their factory farm model, to me, seems way more urgent.

  •  Thank you! (1+ / 0-)

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    farmerchuck

    I really appreciate your posting,  renaissance grrrl! And, Farm Bill Girl: You got it right! Thank you, too!

  •  I really have a problem with "subsidy" (2+ / 0-)

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    melo, renaissance grrrl

    but maybe it's just the word...what we as small farmers need is for the american people, via the government, to make the investment in small farms and transition agriculture that industry and the banks won't, cause the return is "too small" or "too nebulous" (to quote terms I've heard them use)...We need to give small farmers time and resources to farm, and farm full time, not make widgets and farm at night (thanks emma!). We need to give small farmers the time, energy, and money to allow them to form local coops and processing centers...I've been talking and listening a lot in the real world the past couple months, and the will, drive, and knowledge are all there in a lot of communities....they're just TIRED.

    and why the sea is boiling hot, and whether pigs have wings....

    by farmerchuck on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 04:09:54 AM PDT

  •  question (2+ / 0-)

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    melo, renaissance grrrl

    international food aid. Shipping surplus food overseas, with its associated energy costs, waste, and distribution challenges, doesn’t make sense. Helping to shore up local farm economies in developing countries does. I wish they’d stop calling it "Mr. Bush’s idea"; it’s not like he invented it. But why was this dropped from the House bill? Can it be revived in the Senate?

    Maybe this is dumb of me, but could this be a "marketing directive" for ADM or something, rather than the sensible strategy it appears to be on first read?

    Just askin'.  We're talking about the masters of dissembling speech here.

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