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Utah Mine Owner Murray: The Face of Capitalism Today, and Tomorrow?

Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 10:33:21 AM PDT

I am listening in bewildered awe to Bob Murray, the owner of the mine which collapsed trapping 6 miners underground in Utah, give a "press conference" describing the current rescue efforts.  Murray is a well-known opponent of mine safety regulations - see RenaF's excellent diary from yesterday raising the question of whether this guy is a nutcase -
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What I see is a throwback to the days of Andrew Carnegie, when industrialists owned not just their companies, but effectively their workers so long as there was no union to represent the workers' interests.  This guy, running a non-union mine, is controlling everything, and his behavior and language, as well as the collapse itself, raise serious questions of the role of both the Federal government in protecting mine safety, and of the state of Utah.  It's hard to think of a clearer argument for unionization than this.   Follow me below for more thoughts.

Rena commented yesterday, and I did too, on Murray's stated obsession with controlling all information on the situation.  He criticized the media for consulting outside experts, and told them to listen only to him, for "the truth".  Murray continues to insist as well that an earthquake caused the cave-in, and not risky and unsafe mining practices that he might have required his crews to undertake.  Yet geologists are saying it's unlikely that there was any earthquake other than the seismic activity caused by the mine cave-in itself.

But what really concerns me is that I see no evidence of any state agency actually doing anything, or of anybody independent of the mine operator involved in the rescue operation.  Murray says the Assistant Secretary of Labor is there - I don't know if he means Federal or State, but where are the mine safety people?    Murray says they had to stop rescue efforts yesterday because there were "aftershocks" that made it unsafe to go on - yet geologists say there was no seismic activity after mid-afternoon yesterday.  Finally, Murray keeps talking about protecting the privacy of the families involved, which essentially means he's not releasing any information on who's down there, and that the fate of those men "is in the hands of the Lord".  

What the fuck century is it, people?!!! Why is this man apparently solely in charge of the rescue operation and all information, when this is a matter of public safety for those miners, who aren't just his employees - they're American and Utah citizens!  Even if I give them the benefit of the doubt, and assume representatives of both Federal and State government are there, who is making the decision to go forward or not with drilling efforts?  It's obviously in Murray's interests to defend this "earthquake" theory, despite the lack of scientific support for that - are we now allowing faith-based mine safety enforcement?

The broader lesson, of course, is that this is what you get when you allow 19th century laissez-faire economic theory, including anti-unionism, to pervade every level of government.  The result is government that is incapable of truly protecting its citizens - and that allows blowhard capitalists like Murray to effectively own the fates of his workers.  This has got to be stopped - we have got to turn this around beginning in January 2009 at the latest.

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  •  Tips? Comments? Corrections? (31+ / 0-)

    I would love to hear from anybody who has any more information on who's controlling the show out there - I'll gladly delete or edit my diary if I've got the facts wrong here.

    •  I had written a diary on this too, (7+ / 0-)

      Here's the who's who of Murray donation recipients, minus the Republican committees and a few of the JV wingnut GOP politicians (Jim Bunning, Geroge Voinovich, Arlen Spector, Mike DeWine, John Thune, Rick Lazio and John Kasich). You've got  George Bush, Sam Brownback, James Inhofe, Conrad Burns, Bob Ney, Lindsey Graham, John Cornyn, and Katherine Harris all receiving hefty donations.

      All in all, Murray and his company gave $387,500 to the GOP and $11,000 to Dems, per the Open Secrets Energy Meetings list.

      Not only that, but his partisan hacketry earned him a spot in front of the House Committee on Energy and Mineral Resources, where he could spew his anti-global warming lies.

      But, "there is no emergency here". And Murray is still free to spew his nonsense while 6 miners are trapped several stories underground.

      "I will fight for my country, but I will not lie for her. " -- Zora Neale Hurston

      by blueintheface on Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 10:52:13 AM PDT

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    •  MSHA certainly must also be at the sight. n/t (0+ / 0-)

      "If you're in trouble, or hurt or need - go to the poor people. They're the only ones that'll help - the only ones." John Steinbeck

      by BluejayRN on Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 11:13:20 AM PDT

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    •  Who's In Control (3+ / 0-)

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      The federal Mine Safety and Health Administration almost certainly has issued a "k" type "control" order requiring the mine operator to clear all actions with them. (Section 104(k) of the Federal Mine Safety and Health Act of 1977.)  But not a "j" order that would put MSHA directly in charge.  The agency hasn't issued a "j" order in decades, probably due to liability concerns. MSHA and the state mine safety agency are probably coordinating or trying to coordinate, with Murray, who owns the coal company. MSHA would be providing technical advice, some specialized equipment, and hopefully, pressuring Murray to act according to the best safety judgement.  The state will be in the mix to some extent.  Ideally, decisions in these types of emergencies are made by consensus of mine operator, feds, state, and miners' union if any.  But ultimately, the responsibility is on the mine operator.    

      •  Thanks for the info (0+ / 0-)

        I can understand its being the mine operator's responsibility to bear the cost of rescue, etc.  I just find it peculiar in this situation that Murray is controlling both the rescue and the information, I suspect to cover his ass and the possible fact that he was using foreign labor in this mine.

  •  If it truly is capitalism then (5+ / 0-)

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    we bear responsibility for driving the demand as well as not regulating this guy into the ground.

    As I said last night, in 'No more blood for oil', I think demand and money have created this monster, and that the government has not done its job of restraining it.  

    That man should have to live in the deepest pit of his own mine, and work at the fore front of every tunnel.  THEN he would take safety seriously.

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    by BeatArondTheBush on Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 10:26:25 AM PDT

  •  Murray is an embarrassment (11+ / 0-)

    I was shocked that he was so stupid as to mention "the earthquake" so many times in a transparent effort to deflect blame for conducting this kind of risky mining.  And to use this tragedy as a political opportunity!  Height of crassness.

    This man is creepy.  If I were his board (or whatever corporate oversight he has), I'd get him out of there immediately or at least tell him to shut his piehole.

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    by ksh01 on Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 10:27:56 AM PDT

  •  Incompetent (8+ / 0-)

    He seems incompetent to be leading any sort of rescue operation.  Utah's State Division of Mines should have stepped in a couple of days ago and taken control of this whole thing.  I mean, WTF?

    The other question is whether dead or injured miners are really less important to the American consumer than a $.75 percent a month savings in energy costs.  Or whatever minimal amount of damage would be passed on if the Federal government stepped in and forced mine operators to obey existing laws (and enacted new ones).

    I'd rather pay a few extra dollars a year than have disaster after disaster after disaster like this on our hands.

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    by bink on Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 10:29:28 AM PDT

  •  Bob Murray is no Carnegie. (6+ / 0-)

    Carnegie was definitely no angel, though he donated great sums of money to the city of Pittsburgh in the form of libraries, universities, and other civic donations.  Most importantly, Carnegie had a can do attitude that everything was possible.  

    I saw Murray on the news this morning saying it would be at least a week before the miners could be reached and was just completely disgusted.  I remembered back to the days when it seemed we could do so much.  We built battleships in months, planes in days in WWII, but we can't dig some men out. . Even Carnegie would have found a way.  

    Murray should be ashamed of himself.  It was bad enough he ran his company the way he did with the violations, he owes it those people even if he is out there with a shovel.  

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    by arogue7 on Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 10:33:10 AM PDT

    •  Carnegie was a ruthless bastard (8+ / 0-)

      Don't let Carnegie's philanthropy play you.  He was a ruthless bastard who was a strikebreaker, left his employees in deplorable working conditions and treated them like the slave labor they were before unions.

      He came to philanthropy late in life and it did a great deal to repair his reputation and morph him into a great man.  He left a great legacy in the sense that he opened education to all in the form of libraries, museums and a university, but he was no altruist.  

      Do a little reading outside the history books if you want to know the real Carnegie.  I do love his libraries though.

      "When people show you who they really are, believe them." - Maya Angelou

      by Pennsylvanian on Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 10:43:02 AM PDT

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      •  This is the correct view. More follows: (10+ / 0-)

        Although Carnegie was a self made man, he believed in social darwinism and thought only the great and propertied deserved any rights.

        He used Pinkertons to kill and maim any worker who openly disagreed with him.

        He publically made statements that if he paid his workers more they would only eat more and buy better clothes.

        His goal was to starve his workers to pay for public institutions of learning.  He considered it a forced savings for future generations that his workers did not have the vision to see or the will to pay for.

        Barbara Bush is a modern example of this kind of thinking.

  •  Mine Safety - the wolves watch the hen house (11+ / 0-)

    As Deputy Assistant Secretary at Labor, Correll has been responsible for management of all aspects of the Mine Safety and Health Administration. The agency provides oversight of mining locations throughout the country.

    http://www.doi.gov/...

    Mr. Correll has been part of the leadership at MSHA during a time when the policy floor fell out.  Under his leadership the philosophy at MSHA changed from one of oversight and compliance to one of partnership and complicity.

                Rulemakings were abandoned. Opportunities to improve coal miner safety were closeted away.  And Mr. Correll and others within the Bush Labor Department advocated partnering with industry to address safety concerns, rather than to enforce the law.  

               In fact, in 1998, Mr. Correll testified before the House Committee on Education and the Workforce’s Subcommittee on Workforce Protection advocating fewer inspections, incentives over penalties, and cooperation over regulation.          

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  •  If you can read Spanish (5+ / 0-)

    Article from La Opinion

    3 of the miners have Spanish family names.  They aren't automatically Mexican, but the Mexican consulate is acting as if they were.

    I have to wonder if the UMW or whichever mine union is active near there has done any outreach in Spanish?

    I wonder if Murray told the mine workers (if you don't like these conditions, I can find people who consider this a step up from the pig farm they are working in now.)

  •  He's only the 2nd creepiest mine owner in Utah (5+ / 0-)

    For as bad as Murray is, the polygamist Kingston cult owns some mines in Utah.

    They have been cited even more than Murray for health & safety violations.

  •  This has always been the face of capitalism. (2+ / 0-)

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    Capital has always treated labor like chattel and cannon fodder, and always will, until unionized workers create a democracy that they can run for themselves.

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  •  I got this sinking feeling watching him (3+ / 0-)

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    speak that he doesn't ever want those miners to come out. I expect him to declare poisonous gas or something like that and cap it off and seal the miners in. He knows he is going to be sued and this is one way to reduce his damage.

    " In our every deliberation,we must consider the impact of our decisions on the next seven generations" From the great law of the Iroquois confederacy.

    by flatford39 on Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 11:00:17 AM PDT

    •  I agree (2+ / 0-)

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      That's pretty much what I was thinking as I was writing the diary, but I guess I didn't think I have enough evidence to really show that.  But I absolutely agree - that's one reason why an independent agency should be in charge of the rescue efforts.  And why workers need unions to represent their interests in situations like this, as well as day to day.  This guy is a criminal, I would bet a lot of money on it.

    •  Listening to him speak (2+ / 0-)

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      I get the distinct impression that he believes that mine safety is a simple matter of having a personal relationship with God. I suspect to him, if the men inside die, it's their own damn fault.

      It was the subtle choice of words on his part. Made the hairs on my neck stand up watching him on TV. It's my atheist survivometer going off.

      I suspect that's why he's sticking so tightly with the 'earthquake caused this' line. Causation would be God -> earthquake -> collapse, not (some mining issue) -> collapse -> earthquake.

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      by johnsonwax on Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 11:31:42 AM PDT

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  •  He's ours- straight out of Ohio coal country (4+ / 0-)

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    The Cleveland Plain Dealer did a profile on Murray today.

    Murray's relationship with the union was amicable back in 1988 when he bought his first mine from North American Coal Co., the Powhatan No. 6 Mine in Belmont County in southeastern Ohio. But by 2001, relations had soured over his refusal to hire laid-off workers that the union said were entitled to jobs in a mine he was opening nearby.

    Murray has had run-ins with environmentalists and state mining regulators throughout his coal empire over permitting and regulations. He is an advocate of long-wall mining, a high-tech, high-volume muscular mining method that uses a continuous grinding machine to chew through coal seams hundreds of feet wide, sending the black gold onto conveyor belts and into railcars as miners scramble with hydraulic steel ceiling supports to keep the mine from collapsing. The Utah mine was not using that system. The long-wall method causes the ground above to sink up to four feet within a few weeks.

    Murray is just as comfortable playing the maverick and troublemaker in Congress, where he has led a campaign against legislation aimed at controlling power plant carbon dioxide emissions as a suspected cause of global warming. He was also against the Kyoto environmental treaty and was delighted when President Bush refused to join.

    Coal-fired power plants provide about half the nation's electricity at low cost, says Murray, and shutting them down or forcing expensive retrofits will cause power prices to soar.

    Previous diaries have linked to UMWA articles about his operations in Ohio and PA.  However, we most definitely remember him for another recent mine project, when his company insisted on undermining Dysart Woods, a tract of irreplacable old-growth oak forest in SE Ohio.

    Dysart Woods exists today as an old-growth forest because several generations of the Dysart family kept it in its natural state. The splendor of the forest, formerly enjoyed by only a few, now has become available to many. Ohio University, by agreement with The Nature Conservancy, has undertaken the responsibility of preserving this outstanding remnant of the magnificent forests that once covered much of Ohio and eastern United States. The recognition of Dysart Woods as a National Natural Landmark by the U.S. Department of the Interior underscores the importance of preserving it.

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    by histopresto on Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 11:03:34 AM PDT

  •  I am not sure whether to hate this guy (0+ / 0-)

    or feel sorry for him.  He is obviously in over his head PR wise and you have to give him a little credit for standing up there and being the face of it.

    But he did bring some of it onto himself.

    Overall, it is very disturbing to watch the guy because you can't quite tell what he really is.

  •  It's a political business (3+ / 0-)

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    Excellent, essential diary. I'm just going to make one additional observation: it's a sad fact that it makes no economic sense for the underground mine to even be operating. These lives were risked and safety overlooked not for essential fuel, but for politics. No underground coal mine that far west can be economically sound without political deals.

    Utah has about 2000 coal workers, but produces just 2% of the nation's coal. In neighboring Wyoming, with its vast reserves in the surface mines of the Southern Powder River Basin, the 5000 workers produce almost 40% of the nation's coal. And Wyoming coal is so cheap. Electricity utilities as far away as Georgia use Wyoming coal, and can end up paying 20% of the delivered cost to the coal mining companies, and 80% to the railroads that transport it - yet still find the price competitive with coal from the traditional eastern mining states.

    Unless it produces a product with a particular high-value use like coking coal for steel, or can secure an artificial market through political means, no underground coal mine that close to Wyoming has a chance of being profitable.

  •  "pulling pillars" (3+ / 0-)

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    is the most dangerous mining practice.  When I was a kid growing up in Scranton PA, there was an accident at the Knox Coal Co mine in 1959 (Use "The Google" for Knox Mine disaster).  The mine was illegally mining under the Susquehanna river in January and ordered by the state to stop immediately.  Under orders of the mine owner(s), one later to be found out that was W.A. "Tony Boyle (head of the UMWA at the time) mining and pillar pulling continued and the roof collapsed.  Several billion gallons of freezing river water came into the mine and swept 12 miners away.  They were never found and the widows were never paid any death benefits (typical and took years in court).  The coal company moved the railroad tracks to the edge of the whirlpool and dumped over 300 coal cars into the gaping hole in a vain attempt to plug the river.  What was the Northern Anthracite Coal Belt became the Northern Antracite Mine Pool with water up to 600 feet deep, underground, as it flooded the entire basin and ended anthracite underground mining.  Drainage coming out of it turns bright yellow/orange, pH about 2.

    The history of mining is full of stories where mine owners treated miners as slaves while they made fantastic profits.  If a miner was killed, they dropped the guy in the living room and if the family didn't have a son to replace him, out on the street from the Company house. That's why we have Labor Day.

    Not much difference than this guy in Utah is like.  Plus, Utah has this all pervasive "God gaves us this place when no one else wanted it, so just go back east where you came from" attitude.

    The roof collapsed, set off seismic waves and those miners are toast.

    Just my 2 cents.

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    by anthracite on Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 12:08:02 PM PDT

    •  I wish I could rec you 100 times for this. (0+ / 0-)

      Mining history is the history of labor in this country. So many people know nothing about company houses, company stores, except "you load 16 tons and what do you get?"

      BTW, there was an mine owner in Utah named Jesse Knight http://historytogo.utah.gov/... who was known for his decent wages and fair practices with his miners. He pissed off the other owners and they did what they could to put him out of business.

      This link isn't really the one I'm looking for, but it does have some nice links to mining in Utah.

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      by high uintas on Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 10:02:59 PM PDT

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  •  Well put, Utahrd. (0+ / 0-)

    And IIRC, they were employing immigrant labor as well.

    Edwards Democrat voting for Obama would like to remind you, "Concentration Moon, over the camp in the valley" Frank Zappa knew.

    by high uintas on Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 09:40:32 PM PDT

  •  I don't know why that ended up down here. (0+ / 0-)

    But, oh well. I wish I could have caught this diary earlier, geordie. I have a feeling we're going to hear a lot more about Honest Bob before this is over.

    Edwards Democrat voting for Obama would like to remind you, "Concentration Moon, over the camp in the valley" Frank Zappa knew.

    by high uintas on Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 09:44:02 PM PDT

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