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Bush Plays Advice Columnist to Dems

Fri Sep 28, 2007 at 05:21:11 AM PDT

Bush has been calling the Democratic candidates with some free advice.  About Iraq.  And I really fear that, after watching the Dem debate the other night, Clinton, Obama and Edwards are actually listening to the one human being on this planet who has proved his ineptitude knows no limits:

Bush has even quietly sent advice through intermediaries to Clinton and other Democratic candidates, urging them to be careful in their campaign rhetoric so they do not limit their options should they win, according to a new book, "The Evangelical President," by Bill Sammon of the Washington Examiner. Bush has "been urging candidates, 'Don't get yourself too locked in where you stand right now. If you end up sitting where I sit, things could change dramatically,' " White House Chief of Staff Joshua B. Bolten told Sammon.

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While [Bush] no longer harbors hope of winning the war by Jan. 20, 2009, he wants to use his remaining time in office to stabilize the country, draw down some forces and leave his successor with a less volatile situation that would dampen domestic demands to pull out completely. If he can do that, he told television anchors during an off-the-record lunch this month, he thinks even Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.), the Democratic front-runner, would continue his policy.

The goal, as national security adviser Stephen J. Hadley told the Council on Foreign Relations recently, is that "a new president who comes in in January of '09, whoever he or she may be, will look at it and say, 'I'm persuaded that we have long-term interests here. It's important we get it right. This strategy is beginning to work. I think I'll leave Iraq alone.' And so that a new president coming in doesn't have a first crisis about 'let's pull the troops out of Iraq.' "

Looks like Bush is well on his way to achieving at least this part of his legacy.  Any sane person would run, not walk, as fast as he or she could 180 degrees in the opposite direction from any course of action recommended by this worst of American Presidents (and the competition is no longer even close).  Yet we witnessed the other night the top three candidates for the Democrats, one right after the other refuse to commit to removing all of our troops from Iraq before the year 2013.  Indeed, they didn't even pledge that much.  They merely set 2013 as an "aspirational" goal, at best.

Hillary Clinton, the leading candidate, reiterated her refusal to commit to a complete withdrawal of troops from Iraq by 2013. Her top contenders, Barack Obama and John Edwards, joined her in declining to speculate on hypothetical situations so far in the future.

"I think it's hard to project four years from now," Obama said Wednesday night during a debate at Dartmouth University in New Hampshire. [...]

Clinton said it was the "height of irresponsibility" for President Bush to leave office without ending the war, and she said her goal was to have troops gone within four years, but the New York Senator would not make any firm commitments because "we don't know what we're going to find" when the next president takes office.

Former North Carolina Sen. Edwards said he couldn't "make that commitment" to having all troops gone ...

In short, it appears that the leading Democratic candidates would rather listen to the guy whose strategy in Iraq the overwhelming majority of Americans have rejected (even after the testimony of General "I've found a pony in Iraq" Petraeus before Congress earlier this month), the man who lied and misled our nation into violating the UN Charter, the Geneva Conventions and the US Constitution, and the man who is trying desperately to inoculate himself from being prosecuted for war crimes, than to the people who have been right about Iraq all along.

It's enough to make someone into a conspiracy theorist, isn't it?  It's certainly makes reasonable people doubt the sincerity of any Democrat who claims he or she opposes the war and wants to withdraw our troops from Iraq.  Congress refuses to defund the war, or even to force Bush to continuously veto supplemental defense funding bills that would set a firm date for the withdrawal of our forces.  Congress also refuses to even consider an impeachment investigation of Bush and Cheney, even in light of the recent disclosures in the Spanish press that Bush was flat out lying to Congress and the American people back in early 2003 when he claimed he hadn't made his mind up about invading Iraq (instead he told the Spanish leader, Aznar that he would invade with or without a UN resolution authorizing the use of force).

How much lower can the Democrats go? That used to be a question I asked of the Bush administration and the Republican party, but increasingly it makes sense to ask it of the "worst opposition party" in history.  After all, what have they done to roll back the excesses of the Bush regime enacted prior to 2006?  

Have they changed the Military Commissions Act to restore habeas corpus?  No.  

Have they changed the FISA law to make it impossible for a US President to spy on American citizens with out a warrant?  No (instead they extended Bush's authority to do so).

Have they created laws which require oversight of the billions upon billions of dollars doled out to US contractors in Iraq?  No.

Have they amended the Authorization for  Use of Military Force (AUMF) to make it crystal clear that Bush does not have the unilateral authority to attack Iran without a Congressional declaration of war, as required by the Constitution? No (instead they approved meaningless resolutions condemning Iran and advising Bush to designate Iran's Revolutionary Guards as a terrorist organization, thus making it easier for him to rely on the AUMF to attack Iran whenever he so desires).

Did they vote to deny Bush the authority to escalate the war in Iraq?  No.

Now the leading Democratic candidates for president won't commit to withdrawing our troops from the worst strategic mistake in the history of the United States.  And it looks as if they are following the advice of the current criminalcommander-in-chief who created this mess in the first place.  If that doesn't make you utterly sick this morning, I don't know what will.  

Al Gore, where are you when we need you?

(A slightly modified version of this piece is posted at Booman Tribune)

Tags: George W. Bush, Democrats, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Edwards, Congress, Iraq, Iran (all tags) :: Previous Tag Versions

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  •  Tips, flames, etc. (14+ / 0-)

    Why would anyone listen to Bush on Iraq?

    "I just had the basic view of the American public -- it can't be that bad out there." Marine Travis Williams after 11 members of his squad were killed.

    by Steven D on Fri Sep 28, 2007 at 05:13:51 AM PDT

    •  I agree that the Congress isn't bucking... (0+ / 0-)

      Congress - now controlled by Dems - does need to tear down something that the Bush-GOP Congress created.  Restore habeas! Curb the Patriot Act's violation of our privacy.

      •  But are the Dem Presidential Candidates so bad? (0+ / 0-)

        My mother was never particularly political... But, in November 1980, I remember her & all the other suburban moms saying something to the effect of:

        We have to vote for Ronald Reagan... See all those yellow ribbons on the trees?  When we vote him in - and Jimmy Carter out - all the hostages [in Iran] will be set free.

        I was only 8 at the time, so maybe other Kossacks remember better... My recollection is that Iran held the hostages because Jimmy Carter was weak, weak, weak; suburban moms chose Reagan because of Iran.  Can that be true?

        Personally, I believe that any of our Dems will bring our troops home as quickly as it can be accomplished.  And end many of the other bad-Bush policies listed in the diary. In the meantime, 3 of the 4 - JE, HC & BO - that reasonably have a shot at winning the primary - need to talk tough... Thats a trait of a good negotiator.  (As the fourth viable candidate - BR - maybe he feels free to speak otherwise cause he's been to those countries and feels more confident in his abilities to negotiate hostage release, etc.)

        The tough talk has more to do with looking like a good world leader than with following GWB's advice.

    •  For the same reason that (0+ / 0-)

      'Serious' pundits can keep their gigs despite being continuously wrong.  As Atrios would say, Bush is a member of the Village.

      'Kumbaya' is not a plan.

      by linnen on Fri Sep 28, 2007 at 12:09:11 PM PDT

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  •  It's not advice. It's a warning. (6+ / 0-)

    I'm going to jam us in Iraq so far that you won't be able to get out, and there's not a goddamned thing you can do about it.

    It's more mounting behavior, boasting of this in advance.

    So long as men die, Liberty will never perish. -- Charlie Chaplin, "The Great Dictator"

    by khereva on Fri Sep 28, 2007 at 05:19:10 AM PDT

    •  That's it, khereva. He has made it his mission (1+ / 0-)

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      to force them to "finish" his vision in Iraq.  He will do whatever it takes to get us so mired down in Iraq it will be nearly impossible to pull out.  And any prez who does it anyway, will have such a spectacular mess resulting, he/she is nearly guaranteed to be a one-term prez.
      Bill Kristol said a long time ago this was the NeoCon strategy.  He even admitted in print that Dems were needed to come in and clean up some of the mess Repubs have made domestically.  
      But they have in no way given up their plans for world (and resources) domination.

  •  Those asses will SAY ANYTHING to get elected! (1+ / 0-)

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    Steven D

    Except when they won't ...

    You kids behave or I'm turning this universe around RIGHT NOW! - god

    by Clem Yeobright on Fri Sep 28, 2007 at 05:22:27 AM PDT

  •  asdf (1+ / 0-)

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    Steven D

    urging them to be careful in their campaign rhetoric so they do not limit their options should they win

    Sounds like that is exactly what the Democratic front runners said at the recent debates.  First they were "fooled" by the administrations case for war with Iraq, and now they are going to listen to Bush's advise?  Eieeee!

    If you are in DC see Man of La Mancha at the Church Street Theater opening 7/10/08

    by BDA in VA on Fri Sep 28, 2007 at 05:31:46 AM PDT

  •  So our steadfast, strong, resolute prez has... (2+ / 0-)

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    Steven D, sherlyle

    given up? So much for another illusion for the wingnuts....

    Then again if they looked closer they would see that's been the pattern for his whole life.

    I'm not paranoid, I'm just well informed--SherwoodB

    by SherwoodB on Fri Sep 28, 2007 at 05:45:03 AM PDT

  •  I posted something about this. (2+ / 0-)

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    Steven D, BDA in VA

    You can read the entry in full here, but to sum up: Bush is trying to manipulate all the presidential candidates -- Republican and Democrat -- so they will continue his war long after he is gone from office.  That's why he's screwing things up there, so it will be all but impossible for whoever succeeds him to withdraw U.S. forces.

    This is consistent with what we've heard from Keith Olbermann and Think Progress.  The shrub is trying to set it up so that no matter who ultimately is president after January 2009, that person will have no option except to continue his imperial games in Iraq.  That Democrats are actually giving that worthless pile of crap the time of day is cause for concern.

  •  I have nothing against any of the frontrunners, (0+ / 0-)

    but I just remember very well that in 1968, Nixon was elected as a "Peace" candidate. I greatly fear that whoever the next president is the shrill harpies of the "Right" will make disengagement and withdrawal from this quagmire very difficult.

    CHRISTIAN, n. One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor. A. Bierce

    by irate on Fri Sep 28, 2007 at 06:39:10 AM PDT

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