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Why Clinton Didn't Run in 1988

Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 01:35:12 AM PDT

Poiticalwire is now featuring the following as its "Quote of the Day":

"I came within a day of announcing, because most of the governors were for me and I had been a governor for six years. And I really didn't think I knew enough and had served enough and done enough to run."

-- Bill Clinton, in an interview on Political Capital with Al Hunt to air tonight on Bloomberg TV, on his near run for president in 1988. Clinton was suggesting that Sen. Barack Obama is not experienced enough to seek the presidency.

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Ahh, so that's why Clinton decided against running for president in 1988. It was because he felt like he wasn't experienced enough.

So then this explanation, which he actually gave at the time, was just out and out bs?

Mr. Clinton said his main reason for not running - a concern about the effect his campaign would have on his 7-year-old daughter, Chelsea - had deep roots.

''My father died, before I was born, in a car wreck, and my mother remarried when I was 4 and it was a fairly difficult and stormy relationship. And then my stepfather died when I was 21. I think that makes me a little more concerned than I would otherwise be about the impact of prolonged absencses.

''I didn't want to take a chance on Chelsea,'' he said. ''I just didn't want her to grow up wondering if somehow she was in second place for either one of us. Because I was afraid it would affect how she related to everyone else for the rest of her life.''

There was an overlap between the personal and the political, both Mr. and Mrs. Clinton said, since children's issues would have been a centerpiece of a Clinton campaign for President. Another 'Cruel Irony'

''One of the big problems right now in this country is that people are not paying enough attention to children,'' said Mrs. Clinton, who is 39. ''And it's pretty hard for us to go out selling that message and not pay attention to our own child. That's a contradiction that we also weren't very comfortable with.''

And it had nothing to do with this? link

According to Carl Bernstein's new book "A Woman in Charge: The Life of Hillary Rodham Clinton," in 1988 then-Governor Bill Clinton considered ending his marriage so he could be with his mistress. Bernstein writes that Betsey Wright, Clinton's chief of staff, attributed this to one of our favorite topics here at LifeTwo: midlife crisis:

Wright noted, "there was an adrenaline cutoff immediately, and the funk after that. I mean, he just thought his life was over. There was nothing else for him to do. And he was nutty . . . reckless. I couldn’t get his attention in the office of the governor. He was tired and burnt out on being governor. There wasn’t anything to capture his interest in the job. He really got careless with fooling around."

Wright concluded toward the end of 1988 that Bill was "having a severe midlife crisis."

Governor Clinton apparently sounded out fellow governors and others about the impact a divorce might have on his prospects, including the presidential run he longed for but had already had to abort once in the aftermath of the 1988 Gary Hart scandal. Had he followed through, it's difficult to imagine his party nominating and his country electing a recently divorced man who'd left behind his wife and child (Chelsea Clinton was eight in 1988) for his mistress.

Of course not. It was just that, in his infinite humility, he'd felt that he was lacking sufficient experience.

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    •  Why don't you just reprint (12+ / 0-)

      The Wall Street Journal editorials on Whitewater? They're polititians. They make and have made political statements.  Hillary is far from my first choice, but if you want to attack her, attack her on her votes or her programs, not some tactical statements she or her husband made in 1988.

      "There are no happy endings in the Bush Administration". - Randall L. Tobias

      by MadRuth on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 05:00:13 AM PDT

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    •  Besides you (4+ / 0-)

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      Who cares?

      "By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes" Wm. Shakespeare, "Macbeth"

      by TheMomCat on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 07:08:38 AM PDT

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    •  Dude - somehow I get the impression that (1+ / 0-)

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      Bouwerie Boy

      you're a Hillary stalker. I dunno, just a hunch.

      Um - you might want to get out a little more often.

      As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. - Justice William O. Douglas

      by occams hatchet on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 07:08:47 AM PDT

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    •  Oh, The Humanity (1+ / 0-)

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      MadRuth

      I see that your scoreboard is tied 4-4.  I don't think you deserve such extreme flamethrower treatment, but MadRuth is right - he's a politician.  What do you expect?

      But I don't see your diary as being anti-Clinton necessarily.  PERSONALLY I believe that Bill Clinton is striking some chords about experience.

      Where's Obama's experience?  I sincerely wish that Obama was the second coming of JFK, RFK, MLK or just a legend in his own right - but I'm not seeing it.

      The fact is that he's been a state senator (which is really not that big a deal) and he beat Alan Keyes in a situation that was so desperate that the Illinois GOP had to import a candidate from out of  state just to have a presence on the ballot.  And I'm not seeing or hearing of ANY magic on the campaign trail or in the many debates.

      In the final analysis, I'm quite sure that the Bill Clinton who learned from the Dukakis debacle in 1988 was in fact a much stronger candidate in 1992 due to the extra seasoning that four additional years provided him.  So I have no problem buying his current answer.  It's relevant to our times.

  •  timely! (3+ / 0-)

    I want to win. You want to beat him, and that's a problem for me, because I want to win. -The West Wing

    by AnnArborBlue on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 01:38:49 AM PDT

  •  How much relevant experience (2+ / 0-)

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    for being POTUS does one acquire by being a Governor of a state like AR?  Sounds as if Bill was as disengaged and bored with the job as GWB was in the neighboring state of TX, although that job has even fewer duties.

    Why do Democrats like this man?

    (What happened to the mistress of was that Gennifer?)

    What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away.

    by Marie on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 01:50:34 AM PDT

    •  By proxy, yes. He never wanted to (3+ / 0-)

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      leave the WH and can't wait to get back.  There's still more New Deal legislation left on the books that he and his GOP friends would like to water down to nothing or repeal outright.  

      What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away.

      by Marie on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 02:05:28 AM PDT

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      •  There Still More People in Poverty (3+ / 0-)

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        To raise out of poverty.

        "two psychics pass each other on the street, one says to the other 'you're doing alright, how am i?'"

        by Edgar08 on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 02:07:15 AM PDT

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      •  Misogyny, much? (6+ / 0-)

        If you claim Hillary (one of the strongest women politicians) is nothing more than her husband's proxy, you are demeaning, not only Hillary, but all women.

        •  RIGHT! Somebody named "Marie" is a misogynist (5+ / 0-)

          What amazes me is how many Hillary supporters assume that anybody who objects to her using her husband's term as President as some kind of qualification to be President herself is doing it because they hate women.

          "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security." -Ben Franklin

          by leevank on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 02:33:25 AM PDT

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        •  You Are Demeaning All Women... (2+ / 0-)

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          Oh my God.  Come on, get real.

          Few things irritate me more than the hyper-sensitive who go out of their way to find offense where little to none actually exists.

          It's been said for good reason that "politics ain't beanbag."  So if you're going to play the game, you're going to take some hits.  

          Now it's completely fair to dish out more than you got.  But that's rarely accomplished by playing the "I'm offended" card.

          And if you don't believe that Bill and Hill work as a team, then I've got a bridge that I'd like to sell you at a really good price.  

        •  Yeah, right -- (1+ / 0-)

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          pdxattorney

          and if I criticize Clarence Thomas or Abu Gonzales, I'm a racist.  If I criticize one of the Neo-Con zionists, I'm anti-semitic.  Suppose that means that if I criticize Liddy Dole, you'd rush in again and accuse me of being a misogynist.

          Do you really think that if Hillary had simply been an attorney in private practice in AR and the wife of the Governor, that within a year of so of buying a house in NY that she would have been elected to the Senate?    Excuse me if I prefer politicians that have gained their political experience and expertise doing it the old fashioned way.  Starting at the bottom and working their way up and not starting at the top.  Someone like Boxer who first served as a county supervisor, then Congresswoman before making the leap to Senator.

          Bill and Hill announced themselves as a national team in 1992, not me.  Like most long-term teams they work together and they are not identical.  But close enough for government work.

          What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away.

          by Marie on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 12:28:57 PM PDT

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      •  I agree 100%. Progressives just don't get it. (7+ / 0-)

        FDR is the bedrock of the Democratic Party.  The New Deal coalition and Bretton Woods created the American Middle Class.

        Get back to where you once belonged.  Go with what worked.  Rahm Emanuel Democrats such as the Clintons will do anything to Milton Friedmanize the Democratic Party and privatize everything.  It's a Fire Sale.

        There's no logical explanation for what the Democrats are doing.  They are not representing the voters of November 2006.  They are betraying us daily.  They side with a 28% approval-rated unpopular President.  The trend of their "We didn't realize, it was an honest mistake" Apologia Policy is too many mistakes for too many years.  It's complicity.  And the trend is toward demolishing the ethos behind the New Deal.

        A fatal price is going to be paid for betraying the New Deal miracle.  The Middle Class is almost gone.  The only remnant left standing are those two pillars illustrated on your Social Security card -- the Twin Towers that the Neocons and their DLC minions can't wait to knock down.

        •  I agree with you (1+ / 0-)

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          I just don't see how this diary, attacking the Clintons for making politically expedient statements about why he didn't run in 1988 is relevent to this argument.

          "There are no happy endings in the Bush Administration". - Randall L. Tobias

          by MadRuth on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 05:06:10 AM PDT

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        •  I agree with you ... (0+ / 0-)

          About the New Deal. But the blast at Clinton is sheer bullshit.

          HillaryCare came up short politically, but for God's sake it was an attempt to extend the New Deal, by finally getting to universal health care.

          Bill Clinton's most important progressive achievement gets no love around here, because it doesn't sound progressive - in fact, it sounds like old-fashioned fiscally-conservative Republicanism. But getting the budget deficit under control was (and is now again) absolutely essential to any future progressive initiative.

          The Reagan-era structural deficits, "as far as the eye can see," weren't just Republicans spending like drunk sailors once they had the credit card. Those deficits were deliberately engineered, with the specific purpose of strangling government, blocking all new initiatives and setting the stage for the GOP's ultimate wet dream, driving Social Security to the wall.

          Clinton stopped that, reversed it, and was getting the budget back in order. And that was only part of something even more fundamental: He was showing the broad American working and middle class that the federal government could work, after unrelenting GOP efforts to wreck it.

          If Katrina had hit on Bill Clinton's watch, it would still have been a terrible disaster, but helicopters would have been there to get people off those roofs, and the President of the United States would have been there to make fucking sure it happened. And afterwards he'd have been busting his ass every day from then till now to help get the Big Easy back on its feet.

          Okay, there I've said it. The party left has its head so far up its ass about Bill Clinton that it's an exercise in advanced topology. Go ahead and troll rate me to oblivion. I don't give a fuck anymore.

          The best fortress is to be found in the love of the people - Niccolo Machiavelli

          by al Fubar on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 04:29:40 PM PDT

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    •  Sort of, yes! (2+ / 0-)

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      Because he (and Hillary) claim that her experience as First Lady is what makes her the "experienced candidate" for the Presidency.  Since it appears that they're back to the "two for the price of one" theory, it would appear that they both held office for 8 years, and are both running for office again.

      "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security." -Ben Franklin

      by leevank on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 02:19:30 AM PDT

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  •  i get the impression (12+ / 0-)

    that you don't like the clintons.

    and that they should take it personally.

  •  "What's best for the country?" (2+ / 0-)

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    Should be the question.

    With the Clintons, it rarely is.  Ego first.  Damn the consequences.

    It all boils down to this:  Russ Feingold, 99-1, October 2001.  When it counted, he was the only one.  Al Gore makes movies, Hillary wants to be Joe Lieberman, Pelosi cowers.  Profiles in courage, all.

  •  Bill, Bill, Bill, i still love you (0+ / 0-)

    even if you are full of shit at times.  I know, I can't help loving my man.  He did so much good for the country, but he can be too political at times (hence, full of shit).  

    "The woman's life is misery; for God's sake, people, at least give her a few good songs". NYT review of The Color Purple

    by arogue7 on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 02:46:28 AM PDT

  •  What a bullshit diary! (11+ / 0-)

    A private gyn office offering full gyn services including abortion care to 18 weeks.

    by william f harrison on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 03:34:55 AM PDT

  •  I'm sorry. (2+ / 0-)

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    What was your question again?

    When the oak is felled the whole forest echoes with its fall, but a hundred acorns are sown in silence by an unnoticed breeze. -Thomas Carlyle

    by Caldonia on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 03:53:01 AM PDT

  •  Could be (D) all of the above - what's the point? (6+ / 0-)

    If you expected Bill Clinton to say back in 1987 "Golly, I thought about it but I'm just not experienced enough".. then you'd be holding him to a higher standard than just about any living politician -- D, R, or Other -- who's ever gotten anywhere.

    And more to the point, I don't see how casting suspicion on Bill Clinton's quotes from 20 years ago at age 40, helps or hurts Barack Obama today.  Obama is different: he is nationally known now, polls and crowds and donor base all prove it -- and Obama is age 45 (five years older than Clinton was when quoted in '87).

  •  Turns out he WASN'T experienced enough (2+ / 0-)

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    Obviously.

    Look at all the damage he did and the progressive causes he failed to push.

    Obama used to be for single payer before he came out against it.

    by formernadervoter on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 05:47:25 AM PDT

  •  Obama has plenty of experience, just ask Bill. (0+ / 0-)

    The one Clinton used in the 1992 election against a sitting president with a cumulative 12 years in the White House as VP and President who had just organized a hugely successful war.

    Obama has plenty of experience, just ask Bill. Replay all Clinton's 1992 responses to the question from Bush Sr campaign and the MSM.

  •  Things are not black and white... (5+ / 0-)

    There are personal and physical reasons to act or not act.  I do not see his statements contradicting each other.

    6 years is inexperienced.  He was a better candidate because he waited.  A 7 year-old daughter versus a 11 year old is a big difference.  The 7 year old is still a child.  The 11 year old is beginning to be an adolescent.  Small children need parent time.  Running for prez puts strain on an entire family.  Chelsea was a little bit older and was able to enjoy her early childhood because he waited as well.

    Bill said nothing wrong and it sounds like you don't like Bill and Hillary and just want to be angry.  Instead, tell us who you like and why they have what it takes rather than attack effective democratic leaders.

    Life is a journey whether you choose a path, or the path chooses you.

    by Dopusopus on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 07:04:48 AM PDT

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