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Having followed the hyperbole yesterday on many of the Caucus related threads , this from a friend in Washoe Valley seems a welcome addition to the dialoge.Its from a first time caucus worker/attendee.She's a successful author with no campaign axe to grind.

I wanted to tell you about my caucus experience. I was the caucus chair for AD District 40, Precinct 8222. The best part was meeting my neighbors, and having three times the turnout we expected. People are hungry for change and as much as the Republican party wants to stop us, I swear this time
‘round, Nevada’s going blue.My precinct sends 6 delegates and after the final count, it was 3 for Obama, 2 for Hillary, 1 for Edwards. The Obama section was quite large, and there were a lot of very young voters, or brand new voters (you could register day-of-caucus in the Democratic party, even if you were seventeen, as long as you’d be eighteen on or before November 4th). These young people were clearly dedicated to change, and that, as you know is Obama’s buzzword. It was heartening to see this outpouring of young hope, and I hope, no matter who the Democratic nominee ultimately becomes, that these young people will continue to vote for change against the current DC maelstrom.
Hillary took the popular vote statewide; however Obama actually has one more delegate than she, so it was obviously very close. A couple of things marred the Obama showing. Here is a link to a blog by a local columnist, Cory Farley. This talks about a Republican push to send Republican voters (many AFTER they caucused for the Republican party, two hours earlier) to change their voter registration and caucus Democrat for Obama. This was independently confirmed for me today by a lady in my church who overheard the same conversation, which said, "Caucus for Obama, because a black man will be easier to beat than a woman."  http://coryfarley.blogspot.com/...
On the KTVN six o’clock news, anchor Bill Brown was in Vegas, in the Wynn casino. He had interviewed several culinary union workers who wanted to vote for candidates other than Obama, who the union endorsed. Unless they promised to vote Obama, they were told they could not caucus, and if they did they would lose their jobs. This is not democracy. This is not representative of the Democratic Party. Likely it’s not representative of Obama’s campaign. But this type of strong-arming voters, so reminiscent of early union activities (and I’m not anti-union), cannot be tolerated in this country. It’s much too reflective of politics-as-usual under the current administration and I hope an investigation ensues.
I happen to support Hillary, for a number of reasons, one of them being her experience. Seems to me that to win this game we have to play within the parameters of the system, rather than threatening to dismantle it. While that approach will very likely appeal to younger voters and disenfranchised voters, these voters don’t always show up on election day. As evidenced by the Republican comments above, Hillary is certainly electable. I respect the other candidates, too, and should one of them become the Democratic nominee, I will throw every ounce of my blue spirit behind them.

Ellen

Washoe Valley Nevada

So Kossacks -better than hate speech isn't it?

Originally posted to jhotchkiss2 on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 07:47 PM PST.

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  •  Thanks -- really appreciate these reports (3+ / 0-)

    of what it was like, for those of us without caucuses.

    Another report, quite full, from a casino caucus at http://www.salon.com/...

    "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

    by Cream City on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 08:00:26 PM PST

  •  Please put a tip jar. (2+ / 0-)
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    I've been waiting to comment.
    I think that this should be investigated. There should be no unions intimidating their workers. But I thought that there were already newspaper articles discussing this?

    Congratulate Senator Clinton on her win in Nevada AND check for caucusing irregularities. We owe it to democracy.

    by bhagamu on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 08:01:29 PM PST

  •  by all accounts (7+ / 0-)

    Washoe (Reno) and the rural areas were clean.  Clark County was the real problem.

    You'll be seeing a lot more updates on the irregularities in the Clark County precincts.  Believe me, it isn't hyperbole or hate speech.

    oops. I hope the gate wasn't too expensive.

    The Nexus has you.

    by Dante Atkins on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 08:02:12 PM PST

    •  Oh, can't wait to see it (1+ / 0-)
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      and I'd bet some of those card sharks that there's more to it than just some "bad unions" twisting arms of their members.

      <div style="color: #a00000;"> Our... constitutional heritage rebels at the thought of giving government the power to control men's minds. Thurgood Marshal

      by bronte17 on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 09:17:30 PM PST

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  •  I thought Hillary won the Wynn? (0+ / 0-)

    Were all those people fired?  Video from the local news report would be helpful...

    Hope is not blind optimism!

    by Hope08 on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 08:03:03 PM PST

    •  I thought that Hillary won 6 of 8 (0+ / 0-)

      of those precincts. I am really fearful for these workers jobs. Is it lawful for the unions to fire them if they vote for a candidate the union doesn't support? It will be kind of hard for anyone's job to be safe in that case, given the fact that the union members went so overwhelmingly for Hillary. Interesting, in one other diary I read that Edwards supporters actually walked out when they could not achieve viability rather than vote against their union's choice. I guess the culinary workers really must have a big problem with Obama is they are willing to put their jobs on the line over this. Did any press interview them to find out what it is about Hillary that generated such a fierce determination? This is powerful!

      •  I read somewhere, that when the union pressured (0+ / 0-)

        the workers, some of them voted in revolt.  Read the link The articles are by Joan Walsh.

        Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities-Voltaire

        by hairspray on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 08:14:06 PM PST

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        •  so enough of them revolted to give the whole (1+ / 0-)
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          shebang to Clinton? Were they former Obama supporters or just uncommited or what? Has anyone written about that? LIke was it just a total about face because of the union pressure? That's really amazing.

      •  The unions can't fire anybody (0+ / 0-)

        That's exclusively the prerogative of management.  Why so many Hillary supporters are trying to peddle the transparently false story that the unions can fire their members is beyond me.

        "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security." -Ben Franklin

        by leevank on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 08:37:12 PM PST

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    •  She did win the Wynn -- and 7 of 9 casino (1+ / 0-)
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      "at-large" districts.  And 6 of Nevada's 17 counties.

      So she won, it seems, half of the total of 26 counties and "at-large" districts -- but as they were the most populous, that gives her the 51% to Obama's 45%.

      "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

      by Cream City on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 08:08:02 PM PST

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      •  the Culinary Union seems to hold no sway (0+ / 0-)

        over their members. Does this bode poorly for ALL labor endorsements? Like does it mean we are going to potentailly see this happen in other primaries? I don't understand how it ended up going so pro Clinton when the Clinton's obviously were certain that Obama would carry this vote in the casinos. Was it the imtimidation that made them dissent? If so, what an act of bravery on their part. Similar to how at the last minute NH women decided to vote for Hillary like overnight... she is really running a very powerful campaign and has an amazing impact on people, doesn't she?

        •  I know (1+ / 0-)
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          It's so scary what those UNION bosses are doing to the poor workers.  Down with Unions!! I hope Hillary is anti-union b/c they're bad...

          Hope is not blind optimism!

          by Hope08 on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 08:30:52 PM PST

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          •  WTF? So, you're a union-buster, huh? (0+ / 0-)

            Are you aware that many people here stand with our brothers and sisters who work diligently to unionize and have decent wages, benefits and working conditions?

            <div style="color: #a00000;"> Our... constitutional heritage rebels at the thought of giving government the power to control men's minds. Thurgood Marshal

            by bronte17 on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 09:21:21 PM PST

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            •  joke, joke, joke (0+ / 0-)

              comments on diary going on and on about intimidation by unions, I thought I'd add to the madness.  Especially since Obama is anti-union (in Iowa) but now he's too union (in NV)

              Hope is not blind optimism!

              by Hope08 on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 10:05:21 PM PST

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          •  You go way to far (0+ / 0-)

            Unions aren't "bad" . They make errors like any other organization .Culinary Workers put on too much pressure,NEA backed an anti-democratic lawsuit.We  Progressives would be in sad shape without our union brothers and sisters.

    •  Probably not, just intimidated. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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      Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities-Voltaire

      by hairspray on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 08:10:23 PM PST

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  •  The union has no authority to fire anybody (0+ / 0-)

    The law is quite clear:  Anybody with the authority to hire and fire, or to exercise any other management authority, is a part of management, and not in the union bargaining unit.

    It frankly astounds me how many of these diaries keep being posted making the accusation that the union was somehow going to fire people, or change their working hours, if they didn't agree to caucus for Obama.  In fact, the union has no authority to do eiter of these things.  

    "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security." -Ben Franklin

    by leevank on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 08:35:30 PM PST

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